Court DESTROYS Machine Gun Ban: Are They Legal Now?! Back on the Menu? FOPA, Hughes, and 922(o)

[@AttyTomGrieve]

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[@marc31415]

I was watching a recent 9 judge panel (en banc). They said the interpretation of "Dangerous and Unusual" was a misunderstanding of semantics. they said Fulfillment of both tests is not required.

[@RILEYLEIFSON_UTAH]

Tom... Love your videos, but, we have GOT TO do something about that red font against a black background when you show the quote of the day. Never a good combo.

[@mgabriel2636]

Yes, Tom, please please show lawyerly machine gun math. One would assume that all the ar15s would be select fire....

[@ajaxslamgoody9736]

Veteran and subscriber here...Could you do a video on traveling with a gun/s in your vehicle...and I never heard any more about the Active Duty Soldier that was posted up near Canada and either accidently crossed onto a Canadian rural road or had to take this rural rout for a one off but forgot that he had his pistol in his vehicle. Last I heard they took him to Canadian jail, and melted or something to his firearm. I think this was under a Democrat Prez....so they didn't even make a comment on news that I remember. My Quote of the Day...When your lawyer says, "See that Bass mounted on the wall son...If he had kept his mouth shut, he wouldn't have made it upon that wall!"

[@Meop79]

Any court ruling or precedent that is repugnant to the constitution is nul and void.

[@robertkoonce8365]

Haven't you heard? They're only dangerous and unusual until you pay the taxman his 200 bones. Then they're all good.

[@DavidJongibo]

Extortion

[@Bob-cx4ze]

So the richer you are, the more rights you have. That checks out.

[@JoshuaRed-v4f]

Only 200$ to make a machine gun legal?

[@JoshuaRed-v4f]

​@@Bob-cx4zeDuh that's how rights work

[@cycleboy8028]

@@JoshuaRed-v4f When that was enacted, $200 then was like $10,000 today.

[@Mattys556]

Criminals have machine guns. Government/ law enforcement have machine guns, as a law-abiding citizen, I am at a disadvantage.

[@Blue-Gold_Crusader]

That was always the intention.

[@Mattys556]

@Blue-Gold_Crusader I believe it and it's getting worse.

[@Blue-Gold_Crusader]

@@Mattys556 Oh, it is; it's going to get much, much worse.

[@Robertsmith-un5cu]

Hoffman super safety.

[@justinrose9369]

The police should only be able to buy anything that us civilian can buy. This would stop a lot of these stupid gun laws. If the police don't support it then it will never pass legislation

[@Bewefau]

They should be make the government scared of the people more. "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny" - Thomas Jefferson

[@NONEYAZ]

Remove "Liberty" And Replace It With Freedom! Liberty Is Something Temporarily Given, Or Issued As A Permission, That Can Be Taken Away Via: A King, Rulers, Gooberments, Overlords, Etc, That Was Issued Via Such Liberty/Permission(s)! Such As A State Driver's License, Etc! Rights Are GOD Given, And Are Not To Be Taken Away Unless Such Entities As Above, Want To Be Under GOD'S Justice And Judgement Of GOD Level Spankings And Punishments, So To Speak! Pa-Pow, Amen! 😎 🙉🙈🙊 🇺🇸

[@zyourzgrandzmaz]

Government has nukes and own all the currency. They're not gonna be afraid of middle aged dad's doing tactical drills for meal team six.

[@zyourzgrandzmaz]

Civil war would end in about 45 minutes if it started by the government simply shutting down all banks and the electrical grid and satellites. Everyone would just give up within an hour of being in the dark with no food and no cellphone activity.. realistically probably a week but yeah, without grocery stores and technology 80% of society dies in a month.

[@ContentEnjoyer-gm3ky]

@zyourzgrandzmaz The jokes on them if they resort to nuclear weapons. You boast so much about you’d easily destroy them, when nukes are traditionally used to end wars that have no avail. And meal team six could damn well be a group of veterans. Crusty ass Redditors like you would just go to Europe is shit kicked off. For the love God, who said the war couldn’t come to YOU?

[@yotee7946]

@@zyourzgrandzmazlet me introduce you to the taliban

[@barnesbuilt1250]

Taxing a right is unconstitutional.

[@dragonf1092]

In violation of the 9th amendment enumeration clause.

[@Featherless1]

Just keep going along with their shit... Everything will be fine. I hear there's air conditioning in the Boxcars.

[@racerx2580]

It's America's motto. To tax the taxes of the tax you payed tax for multiple times AND do unconstitutional shit.

[@Savannah1891]

Taxation without representation..

[@noname-oe9jy]

Pretty much everything they do is unconstitutional at this point.

[@stephenarmstrong7354]

If criminals are just being turned out after being caught with switches, but citizens are getting hard time for metal cards with drawings on them, something is very wrong.

[@Tankeryanker339]

I would agree ,so moral of the story is if you’re going to violate the NFA it’s better to already be a criminal .

[@joedouche3818]

Always remember that all your tools went down with the boat yesterday.

[@11C1P]

@@joedouche3818 I have boating accidents almost on an annual basis. I won't give up though, one of these days, I will be able to take whatever I want on a boat & make it back to dry land with them. Never surrender.

[@energyactivity8925]

@@joedouche3818 some people just have daily boat accidents you know

[@denyscpoyner]

Yes, and the damn drawing wasn't actual scale so just a drawing of a part. Insane.

[@cadehuff7936]

Owning a machine gun has ALWAYS been lawful(constitutional).

[@bradleymorgan8223]

I believe that American citizens should be allowed to own machine guns. My concern is, I would promptly bankrupt myself buying ammo if I had one XD

[@SeanBook001]

I believe ammo is only as expensive as it is because its a form of limiting how many people can afford to excerise this right. So the single mother with one job trying to make ends meet cannot afford to defend herself. If i ever become an FFL i plan on doing a huge discount its your first rifle/shotgun or pistol

[@bradleymorgan8223]

@@SeanBook001 I find the price of ammo to be such that it's practical to defend yourself with a low volume of fire, such as semi-auto or pump action weapons. I would certainly appreciate cheaper ammo if full auto were available to me though!

[@pcj8029]

Get a second job. You'll be fine.

[@bradleymorgan8223]

@@pcj8029 I'm being mostly facetious, I'm an electrical engineer by trade and I'm not really struggling for money.

[@pcj8029]

@@bradleymorgan8223 So was I. Someone broke wouldn't have posted what you posted 😂

[@jameshamm2480]

Read the 2nd Amendment.,,, now read it again. The RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!!! ARMS PEOPLE,, ALL ARMS.

[@Jack-M1113]

Think about it, private citizens technically can own anything in reality as well. Raytheon isn't in the trenches but they have a whole lot of shit on hand. I agree.

[@OpenCarryUSMC]

And that right does not come from the Constitution but predates it entirely. Further, the Constitution specifically prohibits government regulation of arms. PERIOD

[@bloodyairforceones]

buddy that was for british common law for irs colonies because they kept getting shot at … by native / indigenous people

[@TheTGRproductions]

​@@bloodyairforceonesWrong! "A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." -George Washington.

[@Forest_gurilla]

In case background checks for firearms are unconstitutional let's do away with that

[@johnhines229]

There are over 740,000 legally owned machine guns in the United States, I’d call that common use.

[@RonCraig-dy1qf]

Very close to the number I had in my head.

[@SoloRenegade]

yup! Machine guns are legal to own. But can you buy one? Can you afford one? I can't because I don't have the unconstitutional license to exercise my right, I wont submit to an illegal registry, and I wont pay the unconstitutional Poll Tax. they are "legal" to own, but only after you submit to unconstitutional and illegal violations.

[@johnhines229]

@@SoloRenegade something tells me this was supposed to go under the main vid and not my comment

[@SoloRenegade]

@@johnhines229 no harm in it being here too. but yes, sometimes when I post a comment, youtube moves it somewhere else. But anyone who reads your comment thread will see this too. What's wrong with that?

[@couldyou4745]

With logic like that , you might be legitimately braindead. Assuming your number is correct (I don't have a clue) the number of firearms doesn't matter when talking about "common use". It's about the number of people who own and use them. I don't know a single person who owns a machine gun. There could be a million machine guns owned in the US. That wouldn't make them commonly used if those guns are owned by a fraction of the population. The people who own those kinds of firearms are absolutely not common. So no. They are not in common use. They are owned by a very small minority.

[@rumblebudgie2085]

Marbury v Madison: The US Constitution is the supreme law of the land. Any law repugnant to the Constitution is automatically null and void.

[@va.6819]

Not when Dems are in charge, they don’t protect the constitutional rights

[@soulknight89]

Not in Commifornia. 😅 😢

[@JamesJames-r8t]

😰😰😰😰😰😰​@@soulknight89

[@sloppyoppie]

That case's primary effect for future courts is quite different. That case represented the beginning of our downfall, with the new assumption that interpretation of The Constitution was, now usurped from the people, the courts jurisdiction. Bummer.

[@cheeko_914]

Great job continuing the circle jerk. Jesus christ the 2a community is so fuckin annoying

[@michaela6147]

Once again, we don't need government or attorneys to give us our rights

[@lukezeiolf6977]

Good luck explaining that to statists

[@Pr0essIonal3ater]

@@lukezeiolf6977easy, it starts with the constitution and ends with a middle finger to feds. Now whether they send men with machine guns to take. Welp both sides are gonna caskets

[@Zukuri620]

Amen.

[@theexisting1197]

We have to be man enough to take our rights back, if not man enough then this is what we get infringement.

[@kimmichaels899]

​@@theexisting1197 most are keyboard cowboys, 3% of Americans fought in the revolution! So maybe 3% can take it back again.

[@joshuamcconnell2785]

I don't understand how "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” is so hard to understand. It clearly means the government can not limit, restrict, or deny one's access to, possession of, ability or means of carrying any weapon.

[@HondoTrailside]

That isn't what this is about. He is looking at where we stand in the courts at the moment.

[@MISTER-G-2u]

What about actually using weapons in self defense? You have to "pass" a 3 part test imposed by law that no person has the time to ask himself or herself in the actual act of defending yourself against an attacker. If you fail one of these tests, you are guilty. The is why EVERY American citizen needs to know about the "Right of Jury Nullification of the Law".

[@springguntunes]

Yes! How many machine guns would be in common use if Hughs had never been passed. Thank you.

[@Benjanuva]

I think this could be interesting.

[@gifthorse3675]

The 94’ AWB would’ve probably banned them

[@mcsupersport94]

They are already in common use as how many are in use around the world? Civilian police have around 500k, plus the 175k legal under nfa....

[@coryszeman8572]

If every AR sold would have been a M16/M4 we would have had huge amount in civilians hands. The 2020 estimated AR's was 24.4 million. It would be great to have that many auto's available.

[@alexwalker2582]

Probably just about every single AR15 in circulation today would be full auto or burst fire if that had never been passed. So....millions.

[@vladdracula2643]

The problem with NFA is that it's a 200 dollar tax. The problem is WHEN it was a 200 dollar tax. In 1934 America was BROKE, the News saw criminals use machine guns (that they stole from the Police and National Guard) and greatly conflated the issue. When the subsequent tax was applied 80% of the country couldn't afford that. That's almost literally the definition of "infringement".

[@thehollowexchange3717]

Right on the money.

[@victorbruce5772]

And the criminals could still get them, no $200 tax.

[@BrandenH-O051]

​@bruhstandler he means they dont have to pay the tax to possess them. They just posess them illegally, because they are criminals....

[@longiusaescius2537]

FDR's commie nonsense

[@thegrey8643]

It created a class system. The warrior class could still get them on the street for cheap. Only the serfs that couldnt afford the privilege, were prohibited. People never called them on it so no wonder they treat us all like complete shit.

[@Slimjim011]

Under our second amendment no weapons should be illegal and no person should be disqualified

[@PowerKorrupts]

I Disagree 100%

[@ShadowWolf-le4rh]

I disagree that some should be unlawful such as chemical or nerve agents and people with a proven history of unnecessary violence such as those who've already used firearms in illegal means

[@MAC-tv6zq]

The ATF tax on firearms is unconstitutional as it is an infringement. If not then poll taxes are legal and constitutional.

[@kimmichaels899]

And requirements to own a firearm is constitutional.. think not. Too many,,,, too long.

[@MAC-tv6zq]

@@kimmichaels899 under the 2nd Amendment, no requirements are needed other than being a law-abiding citizen

[@wallacekennett2163]

Excellent point!

[@wallacekennett2163]

@@MAC-tv6zqNo, before 1968, when you got out of prison, you literally got your guns back, including the ones you possessed at the time of arrest, unless they were illegal to own in your state or local jurisdiction of release, which was almost nowhere in the USA then. If you had probation to serve after release from prison, you got your guns back then.

[@davidk4860]

@@wallacekennett2163 That's how it should be. They served their time and should get their rights back including the right to vote. I think it is stupid how they don't get their rights back.

[@juanch6936]

Machine guns are in common use by civilian law enforcement at the federal, state, local, and tribal levels. Why shouldn’t they be counted as common use? They are not at war, so their automatic weapons cannot be classified as “weapons of war”. Keyword is “civilian”. Those law enforcement agencies are not military.

[@JoshuaRed-v4f]

War on drugs never ended. Been in a domestic war the use for justification any other time this comes up.

[@caseyschryber1255]

Because the cops are scared of you wielding the same power that they wield against you on a daily basis. Tyranny at its finest

[@life_of_riley88]

At war with us.

[@Commodore22345]

"They are not at war, so their automatic weapons cannot be classified as “weapons of war”." You say that as if it should matter. If anything, being a weapon of war should strengthen the case for machine guns to be protected under the 2nd Amendment.

[@wymanscorneroftheworld8777]

Can you name a weapon that hasn't been used in war? It is silly really this made up fear language

[@Frantheman-ub5np]

All guns are legal. The gov restriction on guns are illegal. 1776

[@jeffhays1968]

And in CA. they are still arguing about knives.

[@JoshuaRed-v4f]

And states around the country including rural red states

[@thevr6family620]

Sounds like Britain

[@JoshuaRed-v4f]

@@thevr6family620 It's wild they unironically have it better

[@thevr6family620]

@@JoshuaRed-v4f sucks to suck CA

[@JohnpaulDejoria666]

@@JoshuaRed-v4flol, right, they look like a third world shithole

[@sfcmmacro]

Oh, lord! If this ruling destroys the NFA's regulation of machine guns... Then so-called semi-auto "assault weapon" bans will also be unconstitutional.

[@dragonf1092]

All gun laws are unconstitutional in violation of the Supremacy clause, article 4 section 2 paragraph 1, second amendment shall not be Infringed clause,9th amendment enumeration clause,10th amendment nor prohibited by it to the states clause,14th amendment section 1 no state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the united states clause combined.

[@dragonf1092]

They have been unconstitutional and therefore illegal and void from the time of their enactment.

[@Blue-Gold_Crusader]

It already is.

[@MatthewA-w2b]

Your constitutional rights shouldn't require a permit

[@user-zu5do6ri6r]

@MatthewA-w2b We require a license to travel.

[@hiddeninfo223]

@@user-zu5do6ri6rokay. Let’s not compare apples to oranges dummy.

[@StevenE-xt5sk]

The Hughes Amendment is a ban on new machinegun, hence through attrition it is a machinegun ban for future civilians for ownership.

[@cupcakeourlord]

A ban on manufacturing new Machine guns. Can't ban something that Jane even been made lol

[@debrajohnson545]

Get rid of Hughes, get rid of separate catagory for SBR, SBS, at a minimum.

[@Blue-Gold_Crusader]

All the infringements need to go. Period. We also need to stop bending the knee, too.

[@SoloRenegade]

and silencers

[@clutchnshift1]

That $200 tax initiated in 1934, was the equivalent of $4,700 today. $200 today, would have been $8.50 in 1934.

[@tomhalla426]

The NFA was written as a draconic tax, not a prohibition. The Hughes Amendment was a prohibition, so the law as enforced is prima facie unconstitutional.

[@dragonf1092]

Congress had no legal lawful constitutional authority or jurisdiction to pass the NFA, GCA or Hughes amendment under the 14th amendment section 1 NO STATE SHALL MAKE OR ENFORCE ANY LAW WHICH SHALL ABRIDGE THE PRIVILEGES OR IMMUNITIES OF CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES clause.

[@donniesteen4982]

Except that… It was absolutely a prohibition because $200 back then was literally a fortune to almost everyone……

[@Blue-Gold_Crusader]

I remember reading about how the "assault weapons" ban was originally intended to be a back door to ban handguns altogether, but was never repealed after it failed utterly.

[@owenblount7334]

Both are blatantly unconstitutional the courts are just being cowards or ideologues

[@Raymo2u]

The NFA and the ATF both exceed Congress' authority under the commerce clause, even without the Second Amendment they are Unconstitutional, it doesnt take a genius to understand that. The GCA 1968, FOPA/Hughes Amendment of 1986, The Patriot Act, Freedom Acts, Red Flag Laws are all blatantly Unconstitutional and the courts ruled them Constitutional. “If the State converts a right (liberty) into a privilege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right (liberty) with impunity.” (Shuttlesworth v. City of Birmingham, Alabama, 373 U.S. 262)

[@wcsoblake85]

Finally, a good lawyer is challenging the restrictions on the 2nd amendment. If you can carry a gun, "arms" shall not be infringed!

[@pedgarage]

So... Would be ok if people go around with Rpgs or other types of rocket launchers?

[@justsomeguy9700]

@@pedgarage A firearm or any bearable arms pointy stick or whoosh boom (RPG)

[@Messup7654]

@@pedgarageyes we want all people to own heavy machine guns automatic turrets and chemical weapons

[@alabamamotionpictureproduc6626]

@@pedgarage Yes

[@pete1342]

Define arms. The 2A doesn't define them. It could mean a slingshot or a bow and arrow. Your opinion doesn't count.

[@Oilngld]

Machine guns should be legal

[@jeffhays1968]

Free Matt Hoover !

[@spudkidmandudebro]

They’ve never been illegal. Eff the fed.

[@SoloRenegade]

Machine guns are legal to own. But can you buy one? Can you afford one? I can't because I don't have the unconstitutional license to exercise my right, I wont submit to an illegal registry, and I wont pay the unconstitutional Poll Tax. they are "legal" to own, but only after you submit to unconstitutional and illegal violations.

[@ophiuchus1116]

PINKERTON 🦅🛡️🇺🇲⚖️

[@garysmith207]

No not illegal just so much ridiculous paperwork and licensing fees to pay for most regular Joe's can't afford them or want to go through the paperwork

[@k9bootcamp]

Any machine gun or other weapon that the government and its military has should be also made available to its citizens to avoid tyranny , to that end was the constitution written .

[@rodneypackard8423]

We should repeal the 1986 rulings. And get rid of the atf.

[@craigthescott5074]

@@rodneypackard8423 groups have tried unfortunately the powers that be, conservative and liberal, will never repel a law like the Hughes amendment. And now 40 years later the transferable guns are worth their weight in gold literally, so those invested in them will never let it happen.

[@alexanderthegreat2678]

Neocon Reagan created it and sponsored the ‘94 assault weapons ban

[@SlightlyTechnical]

There needs to be restrictions on how much taxpayers money the government can spend on attorneys

[@TheGhostOfSmedleyButler]

... And a limit on how much money the gummint can charge to the Country's Credit Card... The deficit...As the late Senator Everet Dirkson said, "'A Billion here and a Billion there, eventually it adds up to serious money"

[@TheGhostOfSmedleyButler]

The Plutocrats of the Potomac don't have to worry about a budget, when their spending other people's money...Spending? Well...sticking other people with the debt...

[@LuvoStanek]

Regarding 2A protection the defense of 2 A should receive the same amount taxpayer money as government wish to spend on 2 A restrictions. Then We The People will not need to pull them out of pocket. Gun grabbers will think twice.

[@cmkeelDIM]

Without Hughes, every AR-15 would be an M-16! The cost difference between semi and full is about 4 bucks. Add to the fact that THOUSANDS or even TENS of thousands of war production machine guns would still be in circulation. Under Bruen NFA, GCA, and Hughes fail. NFA taxes a right, GCA and Hughes violate a right. How hard is that for some folks to understand?

[@garrett892]

They claim it is not a ban, but at what point is access and availability to something so restricted that it is effectively banned?

[@johnnydjiurkopff]

By their definition of a ban, it is banned. They consider certain books not being allowed in elementary schools to be banned even though the books are functionally available for purchase anywhere with an Internet connection in the US.

[@GrapheneOxideIsInCVVax]

​@@johnnydjiurkopff like which books?

[@johnnydjiurkopff]

@@GrapheneOxideIsInCVVax the kind that tell kids cut their bits off because they're transmissions.

[@DigitalApex]

​@@GrapheneOxideIsInCVVax You know precisely which ones

[@cupcakeourlord]

Can you legally buy one? If so, not a ban

[@socal33]

I love this angle to the law. Mere possession without intent to use for evil purposes is not the same as someone who uses a tool for evil purposes. How can the possession of a small piece of metal that can alter the ability of a gun to fire automatically be a crime? What the law is doing is criminalizing potential.

[@UrsineArms]

Its simple, it's not about morality, it's not about safety, it's about exertion of the authority of the state to oppress it's citizenry from allowing its population to bear the arms necessary to secure a free state

[@constitutionalrepublican1611]

thought crime....... we saw it live with skynet on terminator back in the day.

[@presleyfunk4362]

The ATFE could come into ''any'' home and look under the kitchen sink and take you away for having bomb making materials

[@craigjoe8691]

Srumbled upon this channel, and its much more informative and structured than Armed Scholar. Glad to leave that meme community and join this one.

[@jcarne1015]

Yes, please do the machine gun numbers.

[@jeffhays1968]

Imagine how many MG would hit the market if Hughes was gone.

[@norduferhandel4512]

All those pre May and post May dealer "samples" would become "legal" I bet the leftist and ATF are upset ..

[@HansBelphegor]

Hello ali express

[@thh420]

the boomers who have liens on and use theirs for collateral would lose their minds.

[@ghost2112_fpv]

Everyone would have a Glock 18 for sure lol

[@owenblount7334]

Imagine how cheap a sten clone would be

[@tonycollazo38]

Yes please

[@Vibe77Guy]

When exactly was the Constitutionally required ratification completed, modifying the "Shall not be infringed" clause into "Shall not be infringed, except for..." clause? Until that change is identified, ALL firearms legislation has been illegitimately enacted and are void under Marbury v Madison.

[@RATCHETMAN1001]

exactly

[@jonroberts827]

If a gun law or gun ban is found to be unconstitutional from the very beginning of when it was imposed

[@jonroberts827]

It is insane that a Federal Judge makes a good 2a ruling, but that ruling is only good for that case or judges dominion. If that judge makes his ruling using correct Bruen decision, it should go to US Supreme Court for immediate ruling nation wide.

[@dragonf1092]

It's illegal and void,not legally binding or enforceable law.

[@dragonf1092]

​@@jonroberts827nope Article 4 section 2 paragraph 1 The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states. 14th amendment section 1 Equal protection of the laws clause. Therefore any ruling that protects a citizen in one state protects all citizens in the united states of America.

[@kimmichaels899]

​@@dragonf1092 either should be permits!! I permit you to have your God given rights because I am above God???? Is that the way???

[@Felon_With_A_Pew]

Oooh yes. Make machine guns great again.

[@stephenarmstrong7354]

What needs to be done to eliminate the unconstitutional NFA tax? Isn't the legally questionable registration process enough?

[@grogdizzy5814]

Same thing that needs to be done to disband the ATF gang.

[@SoloRenegade]

Machine guns are legal to own. But can you buy one? Can you afford one? I can't because I don't have the unconstitutional license to exercise my right, I wont submit to an illegal registry, and I wont pay the unconstitutional Poll Tax. they are "legal" to own, but only after you submit to unconstitutional and illegal violations.

[@stephenarmstrong7354]

@SoloRenegade Even if I could afford a cheap one, I couldn't afford to shoot it very often. Life has priorities and it's family first for me. Doesn't mean I am not supporting groups that are fighting for our 2A rights, including being able to own any/all firearms, etc, without government regulations/interference.

[@astarothk2273]

caste systems are anathema to the constitution, there should be NO gestapo, military, or merchant caste that is not subject to the same laws the peasant caste is

[@lane8376]

Some people have fear of simply seeing a handgun. My second amendment right shouldn’t be taken away because someone else has a fear of firearms.

[@CandyGramForMongo_]

One can hope! I’ll believe this when they return his firearms.

[@jhondoe6735]

Ban the gov.

[@williammcleroy558]

2A states our right can't be infringed so MGs shouldn't have ever been illegal. If military uses we can too.

[@SitNSpinRecords]

As far as mathing full auto guns, basically just say all private owned AR’s would be full auto since it’s a safety position. Since 1986, zero legal machine guns have been used in a crime.

[@michaelsaine]

and AK's, hell, what Americans call the full auto sear on the AK, most other countries refer to it as a safety sear as it can stop the hammer dropping pre maturely even in simi auto rifles

[@nathangmail-user8860]

It's a touch more complicated, as cheaper civ bcg's are lightened and cannot operate safely in full auto.

[@Gk2003m]

There’s a reason for that. When good people who wish to own these things pay the $200 transfer tax, they grasp that the cost of using them in crime is too high. They wish to retain their ownership. So they are careful about these guns.

[@seanlewis66]

​@Gk2003m that tax was to make it nearly impossible for the common man to afford because back in 1934 you could buy a Thomson submachine gun for 200 dollars but you could also buy a nice for back then used car for the same amount

[@Gk2003m]

@@seanlewis66 yeah… and it had the desired effect of putting a halt to routine gangland slaughters that were starting to claim too many innocent lives. An American public that had originally sort of idolized the criminals of the era had grown weary of “I might be the next one in the crosshairs”. And so the public supported the sensible removal of full-auto weapons from hardware store shelves.

[@alexwilliams9900]

I know a guy who owns several machine guns (legally) him and a lot of people who own them don’t want the NFA to go away because his million dollar gun collection would be worth a whole hell of a lot less.

[@zur9142]

Then they are traitors to every day normal Americans that also have their unalienable rights.

[@timrader1260]

Tough shit for him 😂. He should be jailed for providing funds to domestic terrorists, aka the taxes he pays to keep them.

[@DetroitColt]

Sounds selfish if you ask me

[@adamzalewski6135]

Yes. Math it out please ❤

[@charlesperry1051]

The only way to be rid of the Hughes amendment is in the courts. If it doesn't happen there, it certainly will NEVER happen in the legislature. There is too much money at stake. The people owning machine guns can claim they are Pro 2A, but none of them want Hughes rescinded because their collections of machine guns would drop in value by huge amounts. It is all about the money.

[@robgrey6183]

It's not the ONLY way. Think back. Think way, way back. 249 years ago.

[@agunner6262]

@@robgrey6183it’s usually the people that have never experienced war that are so quick to talk about starting one

[@SmartCreeper]

​@@agunner6262alot of german soldiers fought in and supported both world wars.

[@selbyrupe2952]

It’s always been about three things. Money, power and control. Money, to be made by the government. Power, over us peasants, the government should have power, but not us peasants. Control, the ability of the government to keep us peasants in our lane, by threat of imprisonment, if we the people,(aka peasants) want to challenge the government’s authority over us. I know my analysis is a little rough around the edges, having only a high school education, 18 years in two different branches of the military and seeing combat in one war, but I think I am in the right ballpark, just making my way down to my seat to enjoy the show.

[@mixwellusa]

Moreover, more than money, I don't see many politicians wanting to go on the record voting for legalization of machine guns, regardless of their personal beliefs.

[@lloydhaydel8029]

If machine guns were not regulated, every person who owns a semi auto would most assured own one or more.

[@jwalesoutlaw3294]

Exactly...and that's a good thing

[@russheins6458]

One question is HOW CAN SOME STATES OUTRIGHT BAN THEM ALL TOGETHER??? You’d have to take that into account when you do your count. Also, IM ASSUMING 🤔 the price would be the same as a Semiautomatic weapon??? That number would definitely WAY SURPASS that 250,000 stun gun stat. I’d say it would be at least 10 million.

[@jwalesoutlaw3294]

@russheins6458 the only reason some states can ban or restrict 2nd amendment rights is due to a corrupt or weak judiciary

[@ericangela1528]

@@russheins6458 YES BEFORE 1986 FULL AUTO WAS THE SAME PRICE AS SEMI. IF I HAD BEEN OLD ENOUGH AND HAD THE MONEY AND KNEW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IN 86 I WOULD HAVE BOUGHT A MILLION MACHINE GUNS I HAD A CHANCE TO GET AN ORIGINAL ISRAELI UZI FOR 800 DOLLARS +200 TAX STAMP BUT I WAS TO YOUNG AND BROKE LOL

[@ericp4573]

@@ericangela1528I got offered a pre 86 m4 in 2012 for $549 by a Vietnam veteran that owned a gun range, I asked my dad plzzzz and he said no hahaha they’re like $30,000 right now

[@PRiver-sv2mc]

Yes, I'd like to see your analysis. Thanks, Tom. Great site, topic & presentation.

[@jamesfloyd6803]

Yes any coverage of machine guns is greatly appreciated.

[@dbod9815]

The Hughes amendment is a ban. We are all free to exercise our individual rights without any dependencies on or any assistance from other persons. In other words, I have the right to make my own arms, my own powder, my own ammo...my own machine gun. The Hughes amendment is banning me from making a machine gun.

[@chrisboyd1408]

Most excellent as always! Thanks for sharing

[@jamesglach3229]

count those machine guns!

[@neilwatson9709]

The Hughes Amendment provided the prohibition and therefore didn't allow for the fun switch equipped stuff to go forward. I would like to see your analysis..

[@GimbleOnDew]

Hughs Amendment is in direct confliction with the 2a. Marbury v. Madison makes all unconstitutional laws null and void.

[@neilwatson9709]

@@GimbleOnDew The Hughes Amendment is also the first opportunity to start dismantling the NFA. The use of fun switch equipped weapons by law enforcement infringes on the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment, in this case equal ability to protect yourself physically. In addition, the common use test will come into question. I would argue for using pre ban numbers in an effort to re establish that these items were in common use in April of 1986 and they have fallen off due to the prohibition.

[@Franimus]

YES Please do the math!!!

[@jamesorlong]

The NFA of 1934 is unconstitutional. A tax on a right, no matter how small, is unconstitutional, because someone who is a penny poorer than another person would be negatively effected by such a tax.

[@Raymo2u]

All proposals for any action against the Second Amendment should be seen as an act of war on the Citizenry, Government infringing on the only insurance policy against Government is a conflict of interest and anyone doing so should be convicted of sedition.

[@thomaslamb8635]

@@Raymo2uShould be, yes. Here I thought I lived in the “land of the free”. More like “land of the fee, home of the slave”.

[@jamesorlong]

@@Raymo2u I think you mean treason instead of sedition, but yeah

[@AnnabelleChaucer]

It takes courage to grow up and become who you really are.

[@mikehunt8375]

EXACTLY! ONE SENTENCE THAT DESCRIBES IT ALL! That's why 98% are mentally still in high school, still feeding their egos, and still Government controlled consumers.

[@ericwayne3425]

What part of "shall not be infringed" am I missing?

[@yamahamer89]

Your understanding is flawless.

[@WorldAccordingToGar]

I said it before, and I’ll say it again. There should be no common use test. The second amendment says “shall not be infringed“. It says what it means and it means what it says.

[@Sn0w_Lynx]

I've seen a lot of videos pop up after this ruling. Yours was the most well put together. Thank you. Subbing now.

[@BMG47911]

Yes. Please do the mathematical analyysis.

[@gregbabcock9396]

They were never off the menu for rich people.

[@garysmith207]

Yes I would love for you to delve deeper into this subject!!!

[@jordanvanormer8105]

All “laws” that are unconstitutional shall be treated as if they were never passed. Literally written in the constitution. It is our right and responsibility to do this.

[@SnifferRiffle]

The right to bare arms shall not be infringed. Let me repeat that shall not be infringed!

[@MeMe-ef5fw]

Silence peasant

[@edeverret2320]

It already has been infringed. No one did a thing about it. They will keep infringing the right. No one will do anything that will make a difference. One by one they will get you all. Its a new world.

[@MeMe-ef5fw]

@@SnifferRiffle silen ce pe as ant

[@youtubestolemyhandle1]

My arms are naked.

[@matthew9677]

Excellent legal breakdown! Very well explained, understandable, and detailed. Hard to find such content on these topics.

[@va.6819]

Give us more information, knowledge is power and thanks for your time

[@AnarchyArmed]

We want as little restriction on firearms as possible!

[@constitutionalrepublican1611]

@Yettiattack no backgrounds necessary.... wasnt backgrounds in 1776.... if you werent under care at the local jail you were at liberty to own firearms and buy new at the local store..... unencumbered.

[@epgamer1145]

Should be. We have the 2A to protect our rights. We can expand on them at any time.

[@louispawloski9123]

With the possibility of mob attacks and/or the illegal & unconstitutional act of a Red Flag attack, a machine would come in as a legal and useful tool.

[@aaronbrooks1020]

As a second amendment citizen, hell yeah tom! Go for it!

[@Timothy-NH]

Yes please, would be interesting to know how many machine guns could be in civilian possession.

[@jeffhays1968]

'The people' in blackstone can't tell the difference between any military looking arm and an actual machine gun.

[@JoshuaRed-v4f]

Aren't you guys 2A stans? Shouldn't we be arguing machine guns don't exist because the term is stupid or something?

[@cycleboy8028]

@@JoshuaRed-v4f All guns are machines, too. ;)

[@JoshuaRed-v4f]

@@cycleboy8028 I didn't figure you were literate enough for this convo

[@theKashConnoisseur]

@@JoshuaRed-v4f The term "assault rifle" is dumb (unless it's a Sturmgewehr, of course). But machine gun has always been an acceptable name for a fully automatic firearm.

[@triparadox.c]

@@theKashConnoisseur Nowadays, I don't even bother with "assault rifles". If someone says that's an assault rifle, SURE, IT IS. If I am using that to stop a threat, that thing better be able to do ASSAULT at a minimum.

[@PoormansMachineGun]

What makes a machine gun "dangerous and unusual"? Most would say its capable fast rate of fire. However the Cargill decision highlighted the fact that ROF has zero bearing on what a machine gun is. So if ROF can't been weighed on the "Dangerous and Unusual" scale of what is a machine gun, then how else are machine guns able to be regulated. This will be an interesting case to follow for sure!

[@thugcricket1320]

YES I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR NUMBERS ON HOW MANY MACHINE GUN'S WOULD BE IN EXISTENCE TODAY IF THAT LAW / RULE WAS NOT IN EXISTENCE.....

[@tyeblaskovich668]

Why the fascination with English law governing firearms? We rejected English law at Concord and Lexington Green.

[@alexandermueller4115]

Because it defines the context of which the founding fathers drew up the constitution.

[@chlebowg]

I had a STEN MkII parts kit and would have registered it however; I didn't turn 21 yo until 2 weeks after the Hughes Amendment went into effect. Thats at least one. Plus, I've been barred from importing them from Iraq and Afghanistan as a combat veteran.

[@jasonrist5112]

Glad I found your channel. Love the USCCA videos.

[@stanhutchins4365]

THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED UPON. Think this is clear and straight to the point and easily understood.

[@f5tornadeau]

In-common-use is nonsense. It allows them to continue to ban anything that came out after 1934 as most people couldn’t afford a $200 tax stamp. “All arms that we unconstitutionally made difficult to obtain will continue to be banned because they’ve been difficult to obtain.” -the Govt

[@joshuahein9928]

But if we can figure out a way to increase the numbers of "legal" machine guns... Big if, because it's designed to prevent that exact event. But if by some wonderful event we can push the numbers high enough to pass that "in-common" use garbage then they can't stop us without straight up defining the 2A...

[@southerndad68]

How about we just defund, disband and dismantle the ATF and get rid of the NFA completely and as long as you can afford to own whatever arms you want and are using them legally then you can have whatever you want without tax stamps, registration or infringement of any kind.

[@OpenCarryUSMC]

“In common use” Should include anything the government holds. So all those commonly used machine guns that cops and military have should quite easily meet the “in common use” (made up) test. Personally, government is flat out prohibited from regulating weapons….IN ANY WAY!!!!!!

[@viperdemonz-jenkins]

shall not be infringed

[@JeffreyAcheson]

He told us a very exciting adventure story.

[@Dayton504]

If the government can restrict gun ownership to ANY of us, felon or law biding citizen, can we truly say that we are free?

[@constitutionalrepublican1611]

lets remove the word gun ownership from your statement, and insert anything..... see how close we are to communism or liberty there? to restrict anyone of anything is a crime, a victim was created. and in common law a victim meant a crime was committed. commonsense these codified fraud statutes need a cleaning, theres so many on the books since the 80's and 90's..... and beyond.... like the patriot act.....

[@kevinswinyer3176]

@Dayton504: We truly ARE NOT, and NEVER HAVE BEEN TRULY FREE. We are actually Free Range Slaves. 99.9% of any, and everything we want to do requires a Government Permission Slip, (Permit, or License) to own, or do.. If we wish to own a Car, and use it to travel freely on public roads, and highways, we must have a Driver License to operate said car, and, we must pay a yearly usage tax, (Registration) to operate it. If we wish to hunt, or fish to feed our family, we need to have a Government Permission Slip to do both, (hunting & fishing licenses)... If we want to build a home on property we already own, we must obtain a Local Government Permission Slip, (Building Permit), and if we want to add extra rooms on an already existing home, yep, more Government Permission Slips, (Building Permits) are required. If we want to own a Handgun, and carry it concealed, we need 2 Government Permission Slips, (Pistol, and Concealed Carry Permits), and last, but not least, if we want to start our own business, and become self employed, we are required to have a Government Permission Slip, (Business License).... Hell, we are even required to have Government Permission Slips to become an Electrician, Plumber, Barber, Hair Stylist, since all of these Occupations require either a Government Issued Certification, or License to perform.... So, to answer your question about whether or not we are truly free, the answer is no, we are not.. We are Free Range Slaves, and the only real true freedom we really have is the Freedom to do WHAT WE ARE TOLD, WHEN WE ARE TOLD, AND HOW WE ARE TOLD BY THE ALMIGHTY GOVERNMENT !!!!!

[@Dayton504]

@@kevinswinyer3176 I agree. And I’ve never bought a fishing or hunting license in my life as I believe they have gone to far when it comes to my ability to feed myself on that which my God has provided for me. I also have been sent to prison for refusing to get my drivers license. Freedom is never free. It comes at a cost that most people are not willing to pay.

[@ContentEnjoyer-gm3ky]

@kevinswinyer3176 Actually, there was briefly, a time where none of that existed.

[@mikehunt8375]

Anyone calling themselves FREE is severely delusional! We are free to do what the Government says we can do, then taxed severely, at least 4 times, after we're done doing what the Government allows us to do. There isn't a single action, idea, or spoken word that isn't controlled, taxed, regulated, or you need a license to do it. Name one... Yeah so free... If people could put their TV PROGRAMMING down, be honest with themselves, they'd wish they could go back into Platos cave..

[@randysretired2020]

I would say that 50-75% of the AR-15’s privately owned in the US would be M16’s or a variant, but for the Hughes Amendment.

[@GimbleOnDew]

M16 doent have much more than AR15. 3 round burst aint that cool after a couple magazines. Now M4, I would have a couple of those.

[@randysretired2020]

@@GimbleOnDew They’re basically the same. I had an M16A1 for basic training. M16A2 at my active duty unit. Back to M16A1 in the Army Reserve. I shot the M4 for familiarization a few times with my federal law enforcement department, but was never issued one. The M4 is just an updated M16A2. I like the three round burst for accuracy, but nothing says eff you like full auto. 😉

[@caseyschryber1255]

And the cops would be much more civil as a result.

[@randysretired2020]

@@caseyschryber1255 One would hope they’d be civil to begin with, but there’s unfortunately quite a few that aren’t and give the rest a bad name.

[@josephahner3031]

​@@GimbleOnDewM4 is burst as well. They didn't give it full auto until the M4A1 upgrade.

[@kangaroozombie6866]

All guns are a right per constitution!

[@DonkeyHotey-l2e]

Always been legal. Just taxed and regulated to the point where no one can afford them if not removed from the market entirely.

[@robertmckinley2030]

This judgement is long overdue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@cassandrafeltner2656]

Hughes act was illegal to begin with

[@11C1P]

In U.S. V Miller "common use" was said to be what was in common use by the military. The judges then didn't think full auto was in common use in the military, even though it was.

[@robbytheremin2443]

Yes, I'm curious about how life would be without Hughes.

[@scotthargrove8750]

Machine guns have always been legal to own. These guns are just illegally restricted because of the illegal NFA act. Hopefully soon any law abiding Americans will be able to cheaply own them with out ANY restrictions.

[@SoloRenegade]

yup Machine guns are legal to own. But can you buy one? Can you afford one? I can't because I don't have the unconstitutional license to exercise my right, I wont submit to an illegal registry, and I wont pay the unconstitutional Poll Tax. they are "legal" to own, but only after you submit to unconstitutional and illegal violations.

[@DavidJongibo]

They have always been legal..

[@JoshuaRed-v4f]

But we have to pretend a tax stamp is oppression or something.

[@DavidJongibo]

@@JoshuaRed-v4f it's extortion. If u pays it's legal, but if u can't , or don't pay it's illegal = extortion

[@Pr0essIonal3ater]

@@JoshuaRed-v4fyou would make a great British politician for how slow you are intellectually