Audeze LCD-X and LCD-2C - Review and Comparison

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[@richiejelen]

Literally what i wanted to hear lol awesome down to earth review thanks helped me a lot 👌

[@SavitskyVadim]

Yay! LCDX! Many thanks for sharing your review!

[@wheeler2137]

audeze nuts

[@gravity00x]

great video again!!

[@-bobo-7999]

Ура, долгожданный обзор на лсд - Х

[@meowo5480]

oh my god this is actually the moment oh my god this is actually the moment

[@ModestIntentions]

legit hyped. I actually didn't open the box with the headphones earlier than I started recording the video

[@JonnyParker-]

Some decent bass testing tracks to use - Topdown Dialectic - Vol.2 release - B1 Barrington Levy - No Fuss No Fight Shorterz & Lopaski - Letting Go Earl Daley - Changing World

[@John_dBj_Brown]

I love the LCD-X's, that "Fazor Waveguide" is a game changer. That is where the price difference comes in between the LCD-2. If you look inside the cup on the LCD-X, you can see an aluminum Fazor. 😉

[@alfredofernandeznajas1773]

hello! What is the difference in the two packs they sell in the audeze lcd x: creator leather free and the creator edition new. Which one would you recommend?

[@ChrisLeverMusic]

if there's a significant difference in the level between the two models, I would level match them so you have a fair comparison of the frequency response etc

[@ModestIntentions]

naah, it's just fine to use the loudness that you're used to as your ears know well how loud they are used to hearing music. There should be a significant difference enough that -1 / +1 db don't matter all too much. Especially since music perception is subjective as it is, otherwise there would've already been the best pair of headphones in the world and no discussion on what people like more lol

[@ChrisLeverMusic]

not sure we're talking about the same thing here? In case I wasn't clear, if one pair sounds louder than the other due to impedance, you can be fooled into thnking they're better as louder usually sounds better. So to not be fooled by that, I'd roughly have them giving me the same level with the headphone gain. Then it's all about tone, eq etc when it comes to sound. It's what you'll do in real life anyway, since whichever pair you use, you'll adjust the gain to a level that's comfortable @@ModestIntentions

[@ModestIntentions]

@@ChrisLeverMusic I did put the volume to more or less same yeah

[@ChrisLeverMusic]

okay cool @@ModestIntentions

[@spoonfull22]

I've had the lcd 2c for a few years now and love them but always wanted to try the lcd x, after this my intrigue is piqued and I gotta get some, RIP my wallet!

[@Chillscapemusic]

LO!L

[@big_narc]

well?

[@carminedesanto6746]

Great review 😎 This is exactly what I was looking for …and I don’t “EQ”….

[@velko2433]

the difference comes from impedance , i guess LCD-x is easyer to be driven with lower impedance. Thats why you hear it louder. Thats it imo

[@ModestIntentions]

Even though this is exactly what I said in the video, my accent is sloppy at times so maybe that's why it's not clear. (Or maybe I edited that part out in the final version of the video?). Anyway, I put "comfortable" loudness on both headphones which is more or less the same when doing comparison :)

[@velko2433]

@@ModestIntentions i try to decide what i should get for just listening to music . I listen to mostly DNB and rock, so its difficult to decide what i go for since i have never listened to neither of them. I use Hifiman 4xx with little pad and grill mods driven by Fiio K5Pro from 3 years. I was going for 2C but after your comparising video i am not so sure anymore. Cheers from Bulgaria :)

[@ModestIntentions]

@@velko2433 recently had a customer come and want to buy LCD-2C from me. He refused after he heard LCD-X. I did love my LCD-2C very much though.. it's just that I received them by mistake so shouldn't have kept them anyways... but I loved them A LOT!

[@Kevodabomb_Media]

I think most people that are into audio will disagree on not EQing headphones, or any sound system in general whether it be your car stereo or home theater. The people that wouldn’t wanna EQ things are just general consumers, and they probably wouldn’t be looking at any of these headphones anyways, they’d just be going for Sony or some other mainstream consumer BT headphones. Like you said, you can’t fine the “perfect sound” especially when there are a million possible headphone/amp/dac combos, so the best we can do is find a good starting point and slightly tune to our preferences.

[@maxprof12]

FIRST!!!!!!!

[@ModestIntentions]

lol

[@manykzdj792]

Which amp would you recommend for audeze lcd x to use with apollo twin x sound card?

[@ModestIntentions]

Anything 300-400$ worth is just fine. I wouldn't go crazy expensive as that is just irrational

[@manykzdj792]

@ModestIntentions thanks, u think "spl phonitor 2" is overkill?

[@sdrtyrtyrtyuty]

@@manykzdj792 Too much crap on the front... get the Rangarok 2 because it da schiit and dont look back

[@manykzdj792]

@@sdrtyrtyrtyuty that shiit more hi fi then studio amp, spl straight for studio work

[@MRFUTURETECHNOLOGYGAMING]

The audeze lcd 2 the fazer version with the wood is a better Comparison to the lcd and the 2 classic 8:14 I'm pretty sure that guy wanted to try other people's eq settings Just to try it out and maybe he'll like it And a lot of people are happier after they EQ headphones like they like the technical performance of the the headphone But they don't like the frequency response

[@ModestIntentions]

Got to choose whom you trust. It's either you or audeze. :)

[@ancient_observer]

According to yout previous video you'll be fine with your Beyerdynamic DT 990 too 😀

[@ModestIntentions]

Where did I say that please?

[@ancient_observer]

@@ModestIntentions you didn't say that directly. But your video is named "Expensive setup - Expectations vs Reality" where you explain and show example that you don't need expensive setup for high-quality production. Following that logic you don't need to buy expansive headphones for that. So it just waste of money.

[@ModestIntentions]

@@ancient_observer But following this logic, where specifically does it mean that I'm fine with DT 990 Pros?

[@ancient_observer]

@@ModestIntentions just compare prices. Maybe you had less knowledge about synthesis or didn't use different analyzer that day when you used Beyerdynamic DT 990 Pro, i don't know. So i just see conflict in this 2 videos. In previous video you say "you don't need expansive setup" (i'm sure expansive headphones are included in this meaning) but in this video you say "hey! this expansive headphones are so fucking good, so i definitely recommend them for production!". 2 differnt opinions about the same thing bro 🙂

[@ModestIntentions]

@@ancient_observer I think you didn't watch either of the videos carefully.

[@JtwasLuck]

Audeze's lower end models have always been known to need EQ, the 2C more than the X, the 2Cs completely transform when EQ'd properly (X to a lesser degree). The bass is more on the 2C vs the X, X is tighter with less sub-bass. If you want impact, the 2C is miles ahead of the X. If you want to stick to Audeze, get the LCD-4 if you want great out of the box sound. I've had the 2Cs for years and they offer TOTL sound for a fraction of the price if your okay with a dark/warm sound sig BUT you NEED to EQ it (Use Oratory1990 EQ and adjust Bass and Treble to your liking).

[@ModestIntentions]

My X has more bass actually? lol

[@JtwasLuck]

@@ModestIntentions Of course it does lol you didn't EQ the 2C, the X doesn't need EQ as much but if your after IMPACT, the 2C easily win.

[@ModestIntentions]

@@JtwasLuck there's absolutely 0 reason why you would need to EQ headphones. There's no objective truth to how the sound SHOULD be

[@JtwasLuck]

@@ModestIntentions there is lol just look at some charts if you want to see objective differences. I agree EQ shouldn’t be needed on most sets but these lower end Audezes 100% need EQ. That’s just how they are if you don’t want to EQ, just avoid Audeze.

[@ModestIntentions]

​@@JtwasLuck how exactly are they objective? 1) your perception changes day to day, 2) your ear calibrates to certain sound system, 3) your perception bends further by using amplifiers/not using amplifiers/using sound cards, 4) open-back headphones also sound differently in different room There is no objectively correct sound. Harman Curve or Fletcher-Manson is also approximate and not exact. And even if it was (which is still not), then get back to point nr. 2. PS: people do professional master on FOSTEX T50RP which cost 150$ and are magneplannar. Are you claiming that they are better than Audeze as they need EQ-ing? PS2: if EQing was objective, why do all headphones sound different? It's a bunch of subjective metrics that you want to make objective :)

[@glens18account]

do you live under a rock? the lcd-2c is known for being distant out of the box but comes alive with a good EQ.

[@ShibaInuClassical]

i had lcd 2c, they were garbage to me even with EQ

[@ModestIntentions]

Sorry to hear that mate

[@Carlos2400]

I actually hated my LCD-X until I eq it

[@ModestIntentions]

Mate. That only happened because you transitioned to a newer sound system. And instead of adapting you chose your uncalibrated ear as a more trustworthy source and fixed it to your liking, which is not a good source of expertise.

[@Carlos2400]

@@ModestIntentions I try to adapt a week was more then enough. I only change the headphone not my whole setup. I was ready to send them back until I eq it.

[@ModestIntentions]

@@Carlos2400 This means that you used some other stuff all this time instead of adapting whole week. It's simply impossible otherwise :) I don't eq them and I master my tracks a lot better than I did with cheaper headphones

[@Carlos2400]

@@ModestIntentions I just couldn't get used to the sound it was missing things. I use audeze eq settings that's when it click for me. I'm just a music enjoyer so I assume you would know better then I do. I'm really happy with my purchase and glad we both enjoy them.

[@ModestIntentions]

@@Carlos2400 my point is that it doesn't make sense to buy a Ferrari, then put an old and well-known engine underneath the hood and feel happy about it :) But if you use music for listening I would say that buying LCD-X probably not the best option, even though viable. Perhaps EQing can make things better, but I don't know why spend 1500$

[@sdrtyrtyrtyuty]

Man you couldn't be more wrong. Yes the LCD-X NEED EQ. Not even close. If you don't think so, IDK what to say. You have bad hearing or you have no idea how to configure EQ. It's night and day difference. And yes they do replace EVERYTHING. Get better at EQ.

[@ModestIntentions]

OK, so eq is different. Why is that better? Can you mix better than people with no eq?

[@sdrtyrtyrtyuty]

@@ModestIntentions At default eq, the X is a pretty bad headphone. Just flat and really bright but when you get the tune just right it sounds like bliss. Idk about mixing. Just for music mostly.

[@ModestIntentions]

​@@sdrtyrtyrtyuty Thanks! This is a matter of opinions and I also think we have internal EQ somewhere in our brain that helps us to extract the right sound from any setup if enough time is given. Ever since I got these headphones, without any EQing I signed songs with Viper, Liquicity and have received collab offers from some cool artists, so it works for me. The whole point of my video was that there is no REAL TRUE sound. Just as long as the headphones are crafted carefully, LCD-X provide brilliant sound response out of the box and with time you get used to it! I am now going to EQ them and see what I like more

[@black_n5492]

@@ModestIntentions have you tried EQ'ing them yet? I'm curious to see if your stance has changed