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[@_kj2]

Glossy only looks good in the showroom. But when in use.. man, I don't understand why designers still choose for glossy black panels.

[@0tispunkm3y3r]

It's garbage isn't it

[@villho]

Well, you answered yourself: it looks good in the showroom.

[@0ooTheMAXXoo0]

glossy screens let the light from the screen through more clearly. Any reflections will be strong but not spread out. With a matte screen you loose image contrast a bit but remove strong reflections by spreading out the reflected light. At some point a lot of electronics started using glossy screens as a plus, an added feature. Since then, matted screens have had to have a bit of a comeback into popularity even though they are great in many uses.

[@woooweee]

@@0ooTheMAXXoo0 Its nice in theory, but even for computing at home I eventually got annoyed at the glossy reflection on computer monitors. Very noticeable with mutliple monitor setups, eventually I just got all matte and don't miss the gloss, there are different grades for everything, not just panels but the type of matte coating or finish. Seeing only the image is its own type of quality.

[@minowara631]

Eh I have an e-tron and the black glossy panels aren't a problem. I haven't had any issues and they are extremely easy to clean to get rid of the few smudges that come up.

[@alexxdavixx]

hello both Tycan and e tron is looking so sleek in full black

[@dfjelddalen]

These realworld tests are invaluable and contain much more information than just range, and really helped decide what car to get and how to plan for charging. Please keep it up!

[@UndergroundMonk]

Bjørn’s test are spot on. I own the 50 model as well which is considered to be the most efficient and the real world range is far less than what is stated. I cannot see how any other sportback with all the other features can have a better range. That being said, I still love it.

[@NotAnonymousNo80014]

Bjorn was ready to switch cars when that Taycan pulled in.

[@richarnold1224]

then you find out the model 3 performance beats the snot out of it for half the price.

[@akse]

@@richarnold1224 Lol.. a bit different quality cars I'd say.. but whatever keep dreaming :)

[@bgentil1028]

Your test is perfect To be continued! Next one: the mini cooper SE?

[@MrHardasLt]

he already answered this question. mini ain't givin him no SE unfortunately

[@bjornnyland]

I contacted Mini several times but they never replied to me. Their loss...

[@CFG39]

I really want to see a test of the Long Range Plus Model S with its 400+ mile rated range. (I KNOW HE DID A TEST OF A RAVEN S, but it wasn’t produced after January revisions to the car and also wasn’t on the new aero wheels or tires which are supposed to help the range substantially).

[@ethan999oz]

You must have missed this then - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGW9mHqde6qrqdU

[@CFG39]

Gery that Model S wasn’t the “Long Range Plus”. I believe it was produced before the supposed changes to production happened in January anyway, but it also wasn’t using the new aero wheels and tires that come standard on new Model S LR+ models. That S was rated with an EPA rating of 373 mile range I believe. The current production LR+ scored over 400 miles!

[@CFG39]

Matt S that Model S wasn’t the “Long Range Plus”. I believe it was produced before the supposed changes to production happened in January anyway, but it also wasn’t using the new aero wheels and tires that come standard on new Model S LR+ models. That S was rated with an EPA rating of 373 mile range I believe. The current production LR+ scored over 400 miles!

[@ethan999oz]

@@CFG39 Ah I see, makes sense now. Cheers

[@CFG39]

Gery umm tires and wheels make a huge difference. Elon also claims there was revisions to the motors that made them more efficient starting with early-2020 production. So I would disagree.

[@SylverWWA]

That was a nice comparison between the Sportback and the Taycan at the beginning. It confirms that this car is still an SUV with a sedan look and thirsty as heck. Btw, when will you test the Polestar 2? I heard that the first batches are arriving to Norway this month!

[@bjornnyland]

In Two Teslabjørn Weeks.

[@TravelwithPavel]

I like this one and I would love to see range test of Sportback 55 I think that can match Model X for sure and charges even faster.

[@bjornnyland]

Check my spreadsheet in the description. Model X LR Raven averaged only 177 Wh/km.

[@Basta147]

@@gery4870 yop. tesla builds the best EVs :)

[@TravelwithPavel]

@@gery4870 yes, but charges slower

[@TravelwithPavel]

@@Basta147 but the worst build cars.

[@gu11fisk]

You do sound like a real Audi-driver..

[@bjornnyland]

Why?

[@drpdrp5690]

Because you're whining about slow traffic 😂

[@sheapcheap]

Well, a real Audi driver would overtake on the right or would be closer to the rear bumper in front...

[@NotPoodle]

Future Historians will look back at this channel and write papers on how it was the passionate early adopters that really put in the effort to bring forth a greener future. Unfortunately, they will probably still be doing their research from the comfort of there breathing apparatus that everyone has to wear because the planet is fucked.

[@piciu256]

Dude it's really not about the environment at this point, just offering the pollution to a different location.

[@francescoboselli6033]

Michael Mortensen and after all cars and road transport in general, contributed to the pollution for 10% / 15%. So they aren’t the mayor cause of global warming

[@piciu256]

@@francescoboselli6033 exactly, but they are quite a big factor for smog in cities

[@Nlkla5]

Audi didn`t bother to make Sportback version of the car illustration on the instrument cluster. Looks like a regular e-tron

[@racepnd]

Hey Bjørn any chance of adding Bolt performance and weight to the lists? Love the videos.

[@itsfahys]

Thats a Dust magnet. Does the Camera make it look that bad ? Why do Manufactures keep going for high Gloss. Its the same with the Jaguar I-pace.

[@cbromley562]

It's wierd. When you drive a Tesla you wonder why anyone would go for an Audi or Jag etc. But, when you see them being driven on the road, you get a sense of exitement. I guess, whatever its stats, is an EV and not ICE. And it looks bloody good...up with the Taycan. And the Tesla...aah, I just can't help it.

[@philipclaeys6920]

Which Tesla? Don't compare Model 3/Y with Audi, Jac, Merck, Porsche ... soon Bjorn can compare the Polestar 2; I've seen some reviews already and it does look better and is more silent than a M3/Y ... and performance and range is not my primary concern.

[@siraff4461]

I don't get all the comments about "its not efficient enough". You have to realise its easy to make something efficient if you don't care about ride quality, all weather and condition grip, interior quality, build quality, materials quality, looks, practicality and all the rest. This isn't meant to be some ultra eco car. This is meant to be a nice car. If you want to sit in a thrown together tin can full of thin plastic interior which looks like a blob to save a few electrons thats fine but look at the cars around you next time you're on the road and ask yourself how many normal people are going to put up with paying a lot of money for a poor experience just to save a small amount of energy. Comparing this to an MG? Come on - thats a smaller, fwd car with nothing like the looks, build or interior and not even close to half the power. Do we want more ev's altogether or do we only want ev's to replace sh1tboxes?

[@Nyimetaay]

"White balance is all off now" Got me with that one

[@MrKlawUK]

I thought maybe if it’s the small battery it’s more affordable. Audi UK - £70k+ ouch

[@JAM_2024]

I think it's because it's built on an existing ICE platform.

[@Hastix]

Audi will bring the Q4 e-tron in a few months, that will be "cheaper"

[@danieleriksson8685]

No one seams to mention that the reason the Sportback is more efficient is perhaps not only the aerodynamics, but changes to the drivetrain. As far as I read during the launch, it has a clutch on the front motor/axel, so that it can free roll better. It needs that due to the permanent magnet motors. Plus less buffer on the battery and other minor drive train changes. These changes should now also be available for the regular E-Tron when ordered now. Can anyone else confirm this?

[@JPetr94]

The etron doesn't have permanent magnet motors and clutches, check self study program.

[@danieleriksson8685]

Yes you are correct. It's the I-Pace which har permanent magnet motors. But it looks like there is a change that it can now completely disengage the front motor and only use back. Perhaps electronically then.

[@bjornnyland]

I don't think drivedrain optimizations helped much. The better aerodynamics and lower weight corresponds with the lower consumption vs regular e-tron 55. If they did improve something, the consumption should be lower than EQC (around 180-190 Wh/km).

[@danieleriksson8685]

Yes you are probably right, since your test showed increased efficiency in higher speed. This was written at the time of the Sportback launch and got me wondering: "Audi was able to improve the range by increasing the net battery capacity. It also decoupled the front motor and improved the thermal management."

[@pantherkent]

I have a Big Butt 55 quattro. “I like big butts and I cannot lie...”

[@thomasruenes1853]

As far as I know, you have never tested the «regular» e-tron 50 in summer time and dry roads..? I hope you will consider to do so, because it’s kind of none sense to compare the sportback with the regular when tested in different seasons. (The regular 55 has been tested in summer, but not the 50)

[@eruiluuvatar]

Standard and sport back actually have very similar consumption. The back changes close to nothing. Cx is 0.25 for the SB vs 0.28. Even WLTP figures don't aim for more than 1-2% consumption improvement.

[@rorywelburn9909]

Hey Bjorn Could you please do a review comparing the model Y with the Kia Niro Thanks

[@yvesvandenbroek6055]

The 2020 model of e-tron had optimizations so the regular model should also have better efficiency ... somewhere between 3 and 5% I heard ...

[@SteveoUtd]

God dagen Bjørn . How about a vacation test with a electric car . Say Oslo where you live . Catch boat of Colour Line to Keil , Germany . Then drive through Germany into Denmark , up to Hirtshalls , then to Kristiansand , and back to Oslo again , and see how many charges you do ,and how each country sets up their stations . Love your videos .Keep up Det greit jobber

[@bjornnyland]

Nope, there's a virus out there, you know?

[@allisterbullock213]

So physically a bit smaller than the other e-trons but costing more as well as being a bit more efficient... can we then conclude that for an Audi electric we need to pay extra for the looks and efficiency? I hope that this is a trend from Audi that won't continue into their future cars.

[@jamesqiu4191]

Hey Bjorn, you think you can get a hold of a NIO ES6 or 8 at Norway. Would love to watch your review. My Asian buddies too

[@strikejre81]

Hello BJorn, thank you very much for these videos that help you have an idea to be able to have an EV as only car. Very good challenge or road trip but it would be very interesting if you could simulate as if there were 4 or 5 occupants with their luggage to be a real situation that can happen any weekend, for weight, consumption and performance. This would also better test efficiency and because some cars are so thirsty, since the E-Tron or e208, for example, perhaps distributed or absorbed the extra weight and the figures would be similar to the test you perform. Like banana box but with sacks with weight. It's the only proof I think your videos would be missing.

[@strikejre81]

My apologies. I’m a recently viewer canal and I didn’t see your first Road Trips with your own car.

[@eirik500]

Wonder if the e-tron use both motors always as in permanent 4WD? Tesla introduced torque sleep in 2016 (?) already, using only one of two motors to save energy while cruising. The 255 tires with much lower rated tire pressure than Tesla certainly also don't help?

[@wolfonwheels6445]

I've stopped relying on Google's mileage estimates. They seem to disagree with traffic signs as well as the ca'rs milage. The car and the traffic signs seem to agree but Google always seems to claim more miles than the journey has taken. I've started checking against GPS and the GPS disagrees with Google too.

[@bjornnyland]

But when I do the tests with different cars, they all show different trip distance on the exact same loop.

[@Plex86]

nettopp bestilt min sportsback 50

[@piciu256]

When will we see ID3?

[@TravelwithPavel]

Ask Volkswagen when they will finally fix it.

[@neitusp8546]

@@TravelwithPavel Nothing is broken, so what should they fix?

[@henrylightfoot792]

@@neitusp8546 The software. Have you read the news?

[@neitusp8546]

@@henrylightfoot792 If it was broken, VW wouldn't be able to release the ID3 on scedule, wich they are doing.

[@henrylightfoot792]

@@neitusp8546 If I remember correctly, they will be released with an incomplete software version, so they won't support OTA updates in the beginning. I might be slightly wrong here, but it's safe to say that software isn't VW's forte.

[@ansgarfinn500]

The back of the Audi E-Tron Sportback looks really sexy. Nice Car!

[@occultbass]

Looks really cool!

[@anderspersson6134]

Great review as always. If you look at efficiency per kilogram its actually 18% more efficient than the Honda e. Great Ass looks Saabish. But 2,4 tons is way too heavy. Nicht Green.

[@bjornnyland]

That's a pointless comparison. A semi truck is more efficient per kg than e-tron. What matters is how much space you get, how fast it charges, how much range you have, how quiet it is and so on.

[@anderspersson6134]

@@bjornnylandgood point but I still dont get why the Honda e is so inefficient. Its way lighter than the etron. Asynchronous motor whatever that is? Its disappointing. Efficiency is important in an EV especially w a small battery. And the charging isnt great. Why???

[@jli9899]

Really hope you can test drive the new xpeng p7 and byd Han

[@sheapcheap]

I'd rather want a Audi A5 etron Coupé. 😢

[@DIsmayedConfuse]

The Q4 will have the interior space of a Q5.

[@marissakphotography6604]

45 min to full?? I wonder how much that degrades the battery overtime.

[@nawarhalabi710]

It has a large buffer so should not have an effect. Your basically Charging to less than 90% in reality

[@RTH1992]

When will you test polestar 2?

[@bjornnyland]

In Two Teslabjørn Weeks.

[@hamadalhammadi915]

its have auto pilot ?

[@bonzo-er6ly]

I wondering mow strong is the ßatteriedegradatiom on eTrons? Permanent fastcharging will suck the capacity down fast. Still a pretenders car.

[@user-in1gn6fw2eab]

Good stuff

[@CED99]

It weighs like a Model X - you don't have a Model X on your spread sheet Bjorn...

[@tigers123123]

256wh/km in summer in ECO mode? :o And I was thinking my M3P consumes a lot (165wh/km in summer)

ABC, repeat ABC - also the screen!

[@DS-pk4eh]

240Km range only ?! 318km if you empty battery completely. that is ridiculous.

[@suprememaxpayne]

With the camera mirrors you could gain a few more kms... Or you could lose a few hundred kgs, it's so heavy!

[@strikejre81]

Okay, it consumes a lot but as a car it's better than a new Tesla of 2020, maybe if software disabled the front or rear engine and only reactivated if necessary, it wouldn't consume that much. It's totally logical because Tesla is an expert in electrical technology and Audi in making cars. The E-Tron in electric technology is like your Millenium Falcon. The new E-Tron S version improves, since only the second generation rear engines and the 1fsrt generation front. How would a Model X have been with the Millenium Falcon technology? You say Optimus also consumes by the shape of the car. How much is a Tesla's gross battery? model S Performance 100kW net and gross? That is why Audi's advantage, and similar manufacturers, is funding and change services or you're definitely keeping it at 2 or 3 years, very important. Tesla technology has a pretty good advantage, but in 2021-22, he won't be carrying that much. One example is Kia/Hyundai.

[@venti4268]

This car - and the SUV version of it - is way to thirsty.

[@MiccaPhone]

too

[@joshuarosen465]

Saying that it's the most effecient E-Tron is like saying the highest mountain in Iowa.

[@hettahetta]

Only 300 km to refuel. I don't need 600 km

[@jakobnev5973]

Could you do a video where you compare the charging speed of different cars expressed as km/h? Some cars have impressive charging speeds when measured in kW, but if they are inefficient on the road it's not that useful.

[@bjornnyland]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2bNkqajppaZj9E

[@heinovanwaelem8275]

Are you planning on testing Polestar 2?

[@bjornnyland]

Yes

[@heinovanwaelem8275]

Bjørn Nyland I hope there will be chipmunking involved 🤐😋

[@jonnathanrodriguez8435]

I don't understand why doing two tests, one 90 km/h and the other 120 km/h being able to do only one test at 100 km/h

[@bjornnyland]

You must be new here. Don't forget to subscribe.

[@CoolSilver]

As expected the Sportback has much better consumption than the fat rear of the 55. It's strange how Norway can get their road projects done faster when there are less people around due to Covid. Here work stops or is barely being done. Just recently they started new projects. America I mean this virus was made for people who don't care about others but outside where workers are already spaced apart.... anyway.

[@Tonyshandle]

200wh/km is a bit disappointing for cruising at 90kmh imho.

[@philipclaeys6920]

Who cares about consumption, we never did in the ICE world, why should we do now! People who can afford a German premium EV most likely do have a charge at home capability. I am one of those people. Tesla is not a premium car compared with what the Germans offer!

[@samusaran7317]

@@philipclaeys6920 I do!

[@philipclaeys6920]

@@gery4870 if you want to compare, do it right! I have bought an EQC, compared with a Model X, it has almost same real world consumption! The difference is not that great!

[@JAM_2024]

@@philipclaeys6920 It's funny how all of a sudden people don't care about range when it comes to vw/audi EV's.

[@RegularUser-v6w]

This is good for a city car - except an SUV for the city is a nonsense. On the road, 300 km at crawl speed and then 45 minutes to charge up at a fast charger is totally useless. On a 1000 kms trip, you’d take upwards of 14 hours, where an ICE or hybrid will do the same in less than 10 at 120 km/h. EVs are already now the best for the city but they have a long way to go before they’re competitive on the road. These interesting real-world tests only show how far we are from where EV’s need to be. Looks like I won’t upgrade from my original Tesla Roadster - which I use almost exclusively in town - any time soon, and will continue using an hybrid for the road. A pity since I can’t wait for the time where I’ll be able to drive anywhere at the speed, reactivity, silence and comfort only EV’s offer. And before anyone says Model S Raven, just look at them hugging the right lane in between trucks on the highway. they simply can’t sustain normal European highway speeds for much more than the feeble German attempts as they’re programmed to impress your friends in the parking lane and then crawl at what passes for speed on the congested mess that is Californian roads. The question is whether we are 3, 5 or 10 years away from EV’s being competitive on European roads.

[@nakfan]

Am I sensing the people's wish for a 1000 km challenge?

[@njohan81]

09:18 = 2520kg for the car... do you do minus your body kg? ...you might weight different by some kg some day to the next!? 😬😇

[@martijnkosters9024]

Johan Norberg on 2,5 tonnes that hardly makes a different. Audi is still fat.

[@syedabid3010]

Hei Bjørn, How come the cars shown on the 'Fully Charged' youtube channel look more beautiful than the cars shown on your channel ? The same EVs, the exact same EVs. How ? how ?

[@bjornnyland]

I have real world view of things.

[@markmilligan6616]

Scarey Turtle 😁

[@florinrusu9068]

You don't say anything about the costs...what happens when the batteries worn out? In a diesel if the turbo goes out then you replace the turbo, in a reg engine a pipe bursts you replace the pipe which is not too much trouble but when the batteries for this E tron worn out then what? What would be the cost? How long these batteries run for before they go bust? 2 years? 3 years?

[@bjornnyland]

10-15 years

[@thorarnerugsveen5794]

Less range than significantly cheaper cars like Ampera-E, Kona, Niro, Soul ...

[@yasinmacapodi3777]

Am i fourth right?

[@antoniopalmero551]

5th yeah,,,, good sheeeet

[@henkenmiekevandenberg4694]

If you are follow your golden rule ( 80% til 15% ) the range is very bad.

[@bjornnyland]

In e-tron you can go 10-90 % at least. Going to 100 % is still too slow.

[@bjornnyland]

Btw, Audi ate up the buffer lately. So the top buffer is smaller than before. Charging to 100 % is slower than before.

[@richarnold1224]

160 miles lol terrible

[@JAM_2024]

Piss poor for the price.

[@Basta147]

for that money the range is insanely bad :D Germany failing at its best

[@sebastianuhl]

According to Audis CEO Tesla is not ahead of Audi AND Audi is catching up fast, lol

[@Stewiedude1]

Wishful thinking right there. Fake it till you make it, we know VAG loves to do that.

[@Astronomine]

Catching up to the one that isn't ahead, nice logic Audi :D BTW, I really like this EV.

[@kleincamper]

I think he revered to the battery technology. And he is probably right, the e-tron are better at charging then the teslas. If you want good charging speed in a tesla you have to arrive with pretty low state of charge und the speed will drop quite early, while in a e-tron it doesn't matter that much.

[@TravelwithPavel]

Why? The one with bigger battery will probably have really similar real world range to Model X, but charges much faster (not peak, but average speed), build quality is much better on Audi and only thing that Tesla has is their autopilot for which I for example totally dont care.

[@TravelwithPavel]

@@kleincamper exactly, like Model 3 is pretty good there even with average speed, but X and S are way worse.