AUDIO TECHNICA AT-LP70X Skipping Issues?

[@markh351]

I've been looking at getting a turntable once again having been without one for at least 20 years and was looking for something user friendly and entry-level without the risk of damaging records. The LP70 was a serious consideration but I appreciate you reporting on this skipping issue. I looked into it further on the web and it looks like there are several such complaints (and also in the comments here). Hopefully there isn't anything fundamentally wrong, but it is a fairly new model yet and you never know. Anyway, much appreciated, I will hold off for now.

[@Boggedy]

Look into an LP60X. It's a solid entry level table & doesn't have this issue. And its cheaper.

[@markh351]

@Boggedy Thanks, this might be a serious consideration.

[@frankieritz]

So glad you made this video. I purchased two of these and both kept skipping with records that weren’t skipping on my previous turntable. I even upgraded to the green stylus but no resolution. I ended up returning both and bought a JBL . No issues whatsoever.

[@cwhitchblu]

@@frankieritz if AT has a design issue hopefully they address it. Might be a batch of parts with the auto mechanism or maybe something as simple of something not being properly greased causing the arm to bind up with small movements. I’d check to see if the locked factory set anti-skate is ‘correct’ with an acrylic platter mat or test disc.

[@jamesreynolds7283]

I also bought this and did the same thing. I called Audio-Technica support and told it shouldn’t do that. I was told send it back for exchange. But I decide to return it and not get another. I really liked the look and sound of it. But after hearing other people have this problem I’m glad didn’t get another. I’m back to using my 42 year old Technics which my albums don’t skip on.

[@Boggedy]

Yup, sounds like the LP70 is plagued with the same problem as the previous generation of LP60's because those skipped a lot too. Must have something to do with the auto-start/stop mechanism with relation to tracking because my fully manual AT-LP120X has never had skipping issues whatsoever. It's rock solid.

[@snapea]

​@@Boggedythe 60x/70x and 120 are just completely different turntables in every respect, of which the automatic/manual is just 1 difference. The issue with the original at-lp60 was a somewhat resonant straight tonearm which could skip on bass heavy records. I had 1 record my Aiwa variant LP60 would skip on. I haven't had the 60x skip on any record, so that issue appeared to be fixed on the later model. The 70x has a new tonearm again, so maybe a recurrence of old problems.

[@mrgrinch9865]

I have a LP70X and experienced the same issue. tried 3 different stylus and still got the issue. Albums that do not skip on my Fluance RT81 table will skip on the LP70X. I reached out to Audio Technica and they told me that they could not reproduce my issue. They ended up replacing the turntable but I still have the issue. So I did not follow up with them because I don't think they can or will fix this. I do think that this turntable has a tracking force issue due to the fact that the tonearm is probably too light.

[@frankieritz]

So glad you made this video. I purchased two of these and both kept skipping with records that weren’t skipping on my previous turntable. I ended up returning both and bought a JBL . No issues whatsoever.

[@watdanuqta-mf5ms]

Did you purchase the suspect new records from Amazon? I never buy from them. Always some problems or they look like the have been rewrapped. But on almost any brand new vinyl, small bits of vinyl are left behind during the record making process. I really noticed it one day when cleaning several new Blue Notes with a 'Spin Clean' and noticed what I thought were black hairs floating in the solution when in fact it was thin strands of black vinyl, so getting that off the LP's surface before the first play is important. I bet that the downforce on the cartridge will measure different at different points along its arc. A couple of things; if you hold the arm by the cart end and slowly move it from the outside to the spindle , do you feel any bumps, subtle friction, holdups, along the way? Or when holding the end of the tonearm and sort of rotate it on its axis, is there any play in the arm bearings? Don't want to be rude but the AT-LP70X is a piece of junk. On another site, "Andy's Audio Krapp", he goes through a litany of problems with his and several mistakes in correcting the issues. Return it and purchase something else. Several people have the same issues.

[@RamblingWolfman]

I have bought just a few albums on Amazon and have had good luck so far. Now, when it comes to cds, that's a different story. 😄 From my understanding, the Spin Clean can actually take off bits of vinyl from the edge of the record when using it. I'm not sure if that's true, but that's what I've heard. Lot's more to come on the LP70X and other stuff. Thanks for watching and commenting.👍🏼

[@watdanuqta-mf5ms]

@@RamblingWolfman You have it wrong, record cleaners are removing detritus left behind from the record manufacturing process. This junk can get lodged in the grooves if not removing it first. It could also get baked in the groove as the momentary temp at the stylus tip can get quite hot, melting in the groove and stylus.

[@Groucho3321]

Why would you replace a Marantz with an lp70? I had an lp60 and had lots of skips, all un new records, not old ones. I replaced it with a pioneer pl514x with a sure hi track stylus and no skips at all.

[@RamblingWolfman]

I received the LP70X for Christmas from my son. I actually prefer it over my Marantz because of the fully automatic feature as well as the stylus upgrade path. Hopefully, we can pin down this problem and come up with the solution. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@seanfarrington7134]

I’m having a similar issue with skipping on a LP 70 BT. Most of my albums play great with no skipping. Only happens on two albums The Band 50th edition and AIC Dirt. I took the albums to my local record shop and they played great on their Sony turntable. The owner of the shop suggested adding just a little weight when I play the albums. Adding a dime (3 grams) when I play both albums seam to solve the issue.

[@seanfarrington7134]

Just an update. I felt that a dime might be too heavy so I experimented and found that a paperclip worked great to resolve the skipping. I used two very small pieces of velcro to affix it to my tonearm close to the stylus. This way I could remove it and only use it when I'm playing certain albums that I know skip like the two I mentioned above. The combined weight of the paper clip and velcro was under 1 gram.

[@Boggedy]

Your thought was correct. 3 grams is about 2.8 grams too much!

[@RJviper007]

It's sad you have to use pocket change to fix a problem Audio Technica should be all over themselves trying to fix.

[@lotsatrains]

I also had skipping problems with perfectly good records on the same turntable that I bought to set up in my son’s room then took the records into the basement to play them on my Akai system and couldn’t duplicate the skipping anywhere near the same place that they had skipped so I got disgusted with that turntable and bought him as used Akai model the same as the one I have in the basement and never had a problem since.

[@RamblingWolfman]

Dang, that sucks. I'm currently listening to as many albums that I can, looking for more problems to report to the viewers(I know tough job huh).😆

[@djsmudgeschannel220]

So a brand new record on the lp70x skipped 5 times on the first track. I played it on a Victrola Eastwood and no skips. Im sending mine back.

[@Boggedy]

Yup. It tracks too light. The LP70X looks cool, but its got inherent flaws straight from the factory.

[@RJviper007]

I bought a LP70XBT two weeks ago. After setting it up I started playing some of my older records and it was a dream machine. I then opened up a brand new 180gr album and before it was over it was skipping. Put on some older alums and it played fine, then open up ANOTHER 180gr album and it started skipping. I contacted Audio Technica thinking they probably had received numerous inquiries about this same issue and that they had an easy fix. Unfortunately this was their response. "Thank you for your inquiry. It appears that this item needs to be serviced. You may want to check with your place of purchase about possibly swapping this out for another per their return policy. If you are outside their return window please follow the instructions at the below link to send the product to our US Service Center." So a brand new turntable needs to be serviced or packed back up and sent back to Amazon. Sad times when boilerplate letters are sent out as opposed to fixing the problem that apparently more then a couple people are having.

[@ultimaterocker98]

My LP70X was skipping as well, the same kind where it loops. The nail in the coffin for me was when I purchased a new album and it skipped on the second track. I bought a LP120XUSB and it does not skip on records that were skipping on the LP70X.

[@hifismiffy]

I wonder if changing to an elliptical stylus might help with the skipping issues - it should fit the record goove better. It's a shame that the lp70 arm lacks tracking adjustments which wwould have helped with diagnosis. A lack of anti-skate can be an issue. Is your turntable on a level surface ? That can make a heck of a difference.

[@allenwoolard6386]

Is it possible the lifter is causing the skip? Can you check to see if it's down as far as it's supposed to be?

[@hifismiffy]

@@allenwoolard6386 Yup ! Check to see if there is any clearance between the lifter and the tonearm - there should be a gap visible.

[@adambrantley5325]

I came here to look for a similar comment. I bought my 70x about 2 months ago. Started sounding awful.. looked at stylus and it was kicked to the left and ruined.. don’t think I caused it..but unsure.. anyway.. got the elliptical stylus in today ($49.99), an “upgrade”from the conical, and it’s a huge difference! 😮 for the 25$ difference

[@hifismiffy]

@@adambrantley5325 I'm happy for you.😀

[@jedi-mic]

No the other way round not a lack but too much

[@DavidDiPierro]

If it were me I would just upgrade the cartridge on the Marantz. You can get the sound your looking for with just a cartridge upgrade. Looks like a nice quality piece. New is not always better.

[@hifismiffy]

Another thought - picture discs are not known for their great pressing quality. Does this issue happen with a lot of normal lps or only a select few discs ? If the issue is widespread, it could be down to the LP70 which is a budget turntable - forgive the description !

[@RamblingWolfman]

I'm up to about 14 albums played and notes taken for the next installment on the LP70X. Hopefully, we will see you in the comments.👍🏼

[@saejules777]

I have the same issue on my brand new IP70X. No issues on Marantz. I want to return mine. It’s terrible

[@04EbonyLTD]

Here is an old school trick. my brothers are a bit older than me, but when they were in high school in the late seventies they had a cheap TT on their budget system ( homemade speakers from shop class), they took a penny and taped it to the headshell, you might balance a dime/penny on yours to see if it helps with enough weight on the tone arm. It looks like this tonearm doesn't have the rotating weight on it. it probably has the adjustment inside the table and not worth tearing apart and voiding the warranty. If it was me I would send it back, if enough people return theirs with the skipping issue, maybe Audio Technica will fix them. Well I know I may get some hate here, but I'm a CD guy myself. started CDs back in the eighties because I didn't have to fuss with cleaning records and what the TT needs are. YMMV

[@getstew]

You are such a good dude, and I get that you're the Rambling Wolfman, but I was yelling at my screen "OK, I get it move it along!" a lot. Left early. Best to you!!

[@RamblingWolfman]

Don't worry, I only plan to ramble more and more. No hard feelings here. Thanks for attempting to watch.😆

[@vrassidas_pols]

Good evening from Greece! I had for 35 years Nad 5120 and never had skips or other problems! Before two months ago I bought lp70xbt! For the first records,old and very news ,had the same problems( skip songs or play continuously the same music points ) that I reed in comments or I see in your video. But the last 15-20 days I have not problems. I don't know why. With lp70xbt I replaced lp60x and really I hoped that lp70xbt will be much better at all! Has little a bit better sound from lp60x but his construction in the system arm cartridge in my opinion is a disappointment. A wrong buy . With lp 60x that I had from the covid period never had a problem! In my opinion is a very good turntable ( lp60x ) at all for the price ( 160 euro lp60x ) and in comparison with more famous and expensive turntable! I think that is a very good solution for those that wish good sound with few money! Excuse me for my bad English but I have never been in a country that English is the language of country.. Thank you in advance! Have a very happy New year 2025! ❤😊

[@RamblingWolfman]

Hey, thanks for watching all the way from Greece! I will be coming out with more videos on this subject and turntable for sure.

[@tiborosz1825]

Is the album dishwarped? Picture discs usually are. If there is an inclination inward it can skip.

[@RamblingWolfman]

I'm working on compiling a list of albums played on the LP70X and which ones skipped. Hopefully, I will have the results out soon. Thanks👍🏼

[@daleanderson8685]

Please post a new video if when and if you find the solution. I have the same story as you with this turntable. I purchased it just after Thanksgiving. My records are in like new condition. I have several turntables, fluance rt85, a atlp120, and a stanton t62. Records that play fine on all of those will not play without loop skipping on the 70x. Ugh. I checked the table for level with a bubble level. I also thought maybe the arm lift was not retracting all the way. I verified with a flashlight that it was retracted and not touching the tonearm lift ball. A different stylus with a sharper profile might be better, BUT it still should not be skipping with a conical. I thought abput it and all I can figure is the tonearm is too light to match the compliance of of the atvm95 series cantilever, OR they designed too much antiskate. I was going to check the antiskate with a blank geodisk but this table is back in its box cause I can't tolerate the skipping. I should have researched a little better before i bought it. Apparently this is a known issue in the forums. Ugh

[@albertoterraroli3547]

Hello everyone, I'm Alberto from Italy. I received this turntable from my girlfriend as a Christmas gift for Christmas. It played perfectly for 10 days and then the skips began with all the records both old and new. Since after some experiments I blamed the little weight on the tip, I solved it by simply by inserting a washer of about 1.5 grams around the lever for manual grip. Skips totally disappeared, I've been listening to random records for three days and they are totally gone.

[@Boggedy]

While you were correct that the arm was tracking too light, 1.5 grams is WAY too much weight for this stylus. It should track around 1.8 to 2.2 grams and you're 3.5 to 4! You're going to damage your records & wear your stylus down quick.

[@albertoterraroli3547]

@ Yes, I know that, I used it to have a quicker answer to my thoughts. Now I'm searching a black thinner washer at work to try. But even if I this white turntable so much, I'm going to ask for refund to buy a LP120 . :(

[@Boggedy]

@@albertoterraroli3547 Though it's manual, I guarantee the LP120X would COMPLETELY eliminate the skipping issue. If it were me, I would do it.

[@albertoterraroli3547]

@ the automatic function is not necessary. I would like to listen in relax, without problems :) Thank you for the support !

[@stevenj2380]

Is the floor 'bouncy' and how steady is the stand? There are expensive wall turntable shelves. DIY you could cut a shelf to size and mount it on wall behind, and above the stand. Add some affordable turntable upgrade feet. It is not a long shot, vibrations may be picked up into the stand. The Lp might have a small defect or wave.

[@cassette_decks_and_turntables]

If there's no debris on the record and the atlp70 is skipping randomly then probably the tonearm bearings are a bit tight or a bit loose... That's my guess

[@RamblingWolfman]

Thanks for watching and giving your perspective.

[@black2007cobaltss]

i picked up a AT-LP70XBT for my wife in Mid December for Christmas. We have played probably 10 different records since Christmas day, both new and old vinyl. We are getting more and more frequent skips, i am new to vinyl so i came across this trying to trouble shoot.

[@RamblingWolfman]

Well, dang! It definitely looks like this problem is not an isolated one. I was kind of hoping that people would tell me that they have the LP70 and have had none of the skipping issues. Maybe someone will see this and have a solution. Thanks for watching and commenting. If I hear of any solutions or any new information, I will make a video.

[@black2007cobaltss]

@@RamblingWolfman I am considering just returning the unit and upgrading to a AT-LP3XBT since its got tone arm adjustment and anti-skate adjustment plus the Bluetooth and auto start/stop like the LP60/70. Oh and on another review of the LP70 i found a guy in the comments who had skipping as well, so thats 4 in the last month.

[@RamblingWolfman]

​@black2007cobaltss Man, I don't blame you at all. I'm going to watch some videos on that LP3X. I would appreciate it if you keep us updated on how you like the LP3XBT and how the return of the LP70 goes. Thanks again for watching and the info.

[@wobblinwheel]

It looks like my comments aren't being posted!

[@31cify]

Yeah, changing the cartridge with a different stylus can help matters. Try LP Gear's Carbon Fidelity Elliptical Stylus, I use that on my LP60X instead of the conical stylus it originally comes with. Changing the felt mat with a better material can make things different too. I use an acrylic mat on my LP60X with great results.

[@martijnkats4423]

I always check if the table and platter are level, then spin a test record to check channel balance and tracking. Benefit of using a test record is that flaws in the setup are made audible. If a cantilever is misaligned, it can also cause skipping.

[@ozzyprogdomino8815]

I found that I had skips on the LP60 on albums that did not skip on other turntables. I was hoping they fixed on this new LP70x.

[@edwardgonczy3170]

The Audio Technica AT-70LPX is supposedly factory set to be spot on with regard to tracking force and anti-skate {it is intelligently designed to have a non-replaceable cartridge, but you can upgrade the stylus}. It seems improbable that this would be happening to three tables without perhaps some quality control issues coming to the fore. This table is VERY popular. Perhaps the demand is outstripping the company's ability to assure high quality. Call the company you bought it from and request a replacement.

[@Groucho3321]

"calibrated spot on" means they put a spring inside and call it a day. Those arms are really flimsy and have a TF of 3.5, which sounds excessive.

[@ASharedFate]

I received this turntable and have about 10 brand new records. Every single one skips nonstop. I’m just returning the table.

[@snapea]

​@@Groucho3321A spring is a legitimate way of doing it. How well it's implemented is another matter. 3.5g would be excessive for the AT-VM95C stylus on the 70X, but entirely correct for the At-3600l on the 60/60x. Have you measured a 70x at 3.5g or are you going off experience with the older models?

[@RamblingWolfman]

I have contacted Audio-Technica and will be sharing my experiences with them soon. Stay tuned.

[@arkansasrcnewbie]

​@Groucho3321 Are some people measuring that kind of tracking force on the LP70X? I believe mine was at 2.27, and that would be considerably higher than mine. Now I'm wondering if my tracking force is too low for that stylus.🤷‍♂️

[@wobblinwheel]

Oh, and the lifting bar for the cueing (arm lifter) is not contacting the lifter on the arm. I've replaced both platter mats with thicker rubber mats which should ensure this by lifting the arm higher when playing...my next step is to go inside the TT to see if something is causing a drag on tone arm lateral movement...keep you posted.

[@mysterydude2020]

Remember the tracking force and anti skate is set to the cartridge, the likely hood that the Marantz and Audio Technica cartridges are the same tracking force not likely. You need to look up the tracking force for each cartridge and set them accordingly.

[@patthewoodboy]

and the cartridge will be a different weight. Tracking weight will need to be re zeroed

[@Boggedy]

You cannot adjust the tracking force on an LP70.

[@patthewoodboy]

@@Boggedy well you can by adding a few weights in the appropriate place , blu tack works well , you will need a stylus force scale

[@LoveElectricStuff]

That would be tacky looking.​@@patthewoodboy

[@shonstewart4957]

I had a lp60 that would randomly skip on some things I got rid of it

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

For turntables like that it's a good idea like you have to own the tiny scale to measure needle pressure on the vinyl. I have one and when I check the Technics 1200MKII, it's always exactly the same as the scale - that's the tolerance of a 1200. If it's off it means the tonearm is bent or bad bearings

[@ManosZafirakis.ShapeMixStudio]

Hi ! I have the same issue. I bought it 1 month ago. I was waiting to clean my records to play them and I realized that I have a lot of skipping. I will contact the seller !

[@JayH7745]

Looks like a bunch of those turntables have the same problem. A lot of people left comments about it. Those are beautiful turntables. Audio-Technica needs to do a recall or at least find out the exact reason for the problem. That's cool that you like Bing Crosby Christmas music. I'm kinda similar. I play Dean Martin Christmas albums. 😊

[@husky0877]

Im wondering as the AT is so much lighter it's picking up vibration. Maybe put it on an isolation base.

[@husky0877]

Watching it skip, maybe not. I don't know what the stylus is on the Marantz but the conical on the 95C rides higher in the groove. Does the E do it?

[@wobblinwheel]

@@husky0877 on the LP70X, yes.

[@RamblingWolfman]

I'm going to look for an isolation base, but I'm thinking that with all the people saying they have the same issue, it's probably something else. It's going to be a good time trying to figure this out. Thanks, Husky!

[@Marcelo-pf8cd]

So should I just get the LP60 instead?? I've veen waiting for the LP70 to come back to stock and now I'm not sure if it's worth it... Any recommendations? I do want a Bluetooth enabled with aptX support tho

[@RamblingWolfman]

I absolutely love my LP70X and I'm going to do whatever I can to find a solution (if I even need one). So far, it's only been an issue on a couple of albums. You missed that great sale during Christmas when it was only $159 for the non-bluetooth model (not sure how much the Bluetooth model was during that time). I have more videos with updates to come about the LP70X, so stay tuned. The best thing about the LP70X is it gets you in the 95 series of styli for a great price. Let me know if you decide to pull the trigger on this or any other turntable. Thanks for watching and commenting.👍🏻

[@Marcelo-pf8cd]

@ Thank you so much for you answer! I did pull the trigger on the LP60 earlier, since the LP70 is still out of stock here at Amazon and every other retailer where I live (Spain), so I’ll be trying it out first and, if the LP70 does come back to stock in time I can always return it and get the new version. The copper color version looks stunning! It’ll be my first brand new turntable ever, I’m originally from Brazil and back there I used to have a really old one which literally fell apart… I never really thought of the skipping issues that I had to be related with the turntable itself, so your video really opened my mind about this. Thanks again for bringing great content and for the answer!!

[@Boggedy]

@@Marcelo-pf8cd Just my opinion but I wouldn't touch this player with a 10 foot pole. It is riddled with tracking issues and it's not adjustable. To me, that means there's a design flaw with this player.

[@Marcelo-pf8cd]

@@Boggedy What model/brand would you recommend me then? I do value the Bluetooth + aptX codec, since I already invested in some speakers with that spec

[@grahamevans9606]

@@Marcelo-pf8cd I've had my LP60XBT for 3 years now and not one issue. Got rid of my original Pioneer LP120 back in 1990, but still kept about 75 albums on vinyl. Decided on the LP60 as I was not sure it was a fad for me, but enjoy playing the odd album. Sound quality is good..even using the Bluetooth option. Its idiot proof and well proven. The LP70 obviously has some issues to be sorted.

[@kentgoodall2516]

Ive never had any skipping issues on my Rega planner 1 had it for a while now and i finally get an original pressing of bob Marley's catch a fire on tuff gong red label cost a bit Put it on side one played fine side two fine first time played to the end and 2nd play started to skip and now never gets past the same track Took it to my mates house plays fine both sides I know jamaican vinyl can be slightly different vinyl but i have a lot and never had this issue so bad So i guess i gotta put it down to there must be a spot on my record the turntable cant go past as u cant really ajust the tracking force as its a rega p1 Any help be great its enough send u nuts

[@01chippe]

Are they both the same type of stylus? Elliptical vs Conical could make a difference.

[@RamblingWolfman]

Yes. Both the LP70X and the Marantz currently have a conical style needle on them. I'm continuing my attempt to resolve this issue, so stay tuned. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@MichaelSaamone]

There may be a quality control issue with Audio Tecica Phono needle cartridges . The Atlp120 was criticized for the stock cartridge .

[@ricksendeavors]

Make sure that the cueing lever bar goes all the way down.

[@husky0877]

@@ricksendeavors I saw that mentioned on a Google search I did. Can be a bit sticky

[@wobblinwheel]

@@husky0877 I slid a piece of of paper between the two. Plenty of room (even though it doesn't look like it.

[@RamblingWolfman]

Working on a new video and addressing some of these ideas. Thanks for the advice.👍🏻

[@jedi-mic]

@@RamblingWolfman still no joy do what I suggested turn the anti- skate back you should be alright make sure the table is level

[@jedi-mic]

@@husky0877 yeah that can be a possibility you should always check but the record wasn't warped, I don't think he changed the mat so I would say probably unlikely in this scenario but maybe

[@pavelorozco221]

I have the same problem, I tried the same record in my AT-LP120 and worked perfectly but in my LP70 skipped in specific spots.

[@tiborosz1825]

Is the album dishwarped like most picture discs? If is it can.

[@RamblingWolfman]

No. It's pretty flat. I'm currently trying ten full albums other than the ones that already skipped. I will have my results soon. Thanks

[@tiborosz1825]

Thee arm azimuth at the wrong angle?

[@RamblingWolfman]

Non adjustable as far as I know.

[@chrishalle1982]

All what I can say is it's not the VM95 Cartridge. I have a VM95 and VM530 Cartridge and both don't skip on my Dual DT400. But the recommended tracking force of the VM95 and VM500 Series is 2.0 grams.

[@husky0877]

Wolfman, I have been on a Google rabbit hole of reading about the 70x. A lot of people are saying that using a thicker slip mat stops the skipping.

[@RamblingWolfman]

I'm working on finding several examples of records that skip on this 70X so I can try out different gadgets and methods. I will definitely add the thicker mat to the list. Thanks, Husky!👍🏻

[@Boggedy]

I have found, at least with my LP120X, that Audio Technica sometimes have antiskating issues. The old LP120's antiskate was weak to nonexistent so they "fixed" it by making it WAY too strong on the 120X. They say the antiskate should = the downforce, but I had to HALF that number on mine. I wonder if the LP70 is similar. At any rate, I'm sorry you have to go through this frustration. I'm sure you'll get it figured out. Try toning down that antiskate.

[@RamblingWolfman]

I had no idea that Audio Technica had a history of this. I'm hoping that this isn't a widespread problem, but if it is, I hope there is a solution. Unfortunately, I don't believe that there is any way to adjust anything on this table except for the speed. Thanks for watching and commenting. I'm really looking forward to being a part of the "budget" or "budget-ish" home audio community.👍🏻

[@Boggedy]

​@@RamblingWolfmanOh, sorry! I didn't know it didn't have antiskate. At any rate, I just Googled "LP70 skipping issues" and found others on forums with the same complaint. Unfortunately this seems to be a common problem with this system. You might want to look into having it returned. (I'm sorry!)

[@RamblingWolfman]

Hey, thanks for looking, man. I might keep it and look at making a series of sorts. Maybe I will attempt to contact Audio Technica and see how that goes.

[@jedi-mic]

@@RamblingWolfman it doesn't have anti skate ?? but we'll do internally there might be a screw somewhere around there that does operate a spring. Try adding the weight as I suggested to the Head shell somewhere along where the pickup point is for the arm if you go to a try place you might be able to get one of those stick on weights try one gram and then adjust the vertical tracking angle weight after you've done that. that will put you back to what the correct balance and weight should be on the cartridge, or you've got the scales just use the scales. Also you could try not having in the table balanced ,have it slightly sloping down from the center of the spindle to the tip of the cartridge bit tricky to setup but possible. only have to go a little bit couple of degrees if it's a digital meter if it's a bubble probably to the edge of the marking

[@Bransomware]

I've had my LP70X since Oct last year and I haven't had any issue with skipping, and it sounds fantastic. It was a great upgrade from my old LP60 (non x) that would skip on a few records, that don't skip anymore on the LP70X. So idk maybe you have a bad one or something. Maybe they have a quality control issue.

[@edwinsinclair9853]

Since there is a pop or click on the Marantz in the same spot that it skips on the Audio Technica, i would suspect there's some kind of debris in the grove of that pressing or it's just a bad pressing. The Audio Technica's cartridge and stylus just won't track it where the Marantz will. Have seen this before. Many of the new pressings are just not the quality of the older LPs. There's a lot of variables here like what are you using to clean the disc etc.

[@sonidomaximojavidj1211]

hola que tal, soy de argentina y tengo el mismo problema con este tocadiscos, espero encontrar una solucion con respecto al tema, es una lastima que tenga este problema porque es muy lindo tocadiscos y ademas se escucha barbaro..

[@keithbrowes1974]

I assume you tried cleaning the stylus as a build up of crud on the stylus can cause skipping !

[@RamblingWolfman]

Absolutely. I cleaned the stylus and the record and used an anti static brush. I'm working on some more gadgets now. This is going to get interesting.🧐

[@slothsquatch5023]

Love the Bing Crosby / David Bowie Little Drummer Boy song. Hopefully you get the skipping figured out or Audio Technica does something about it.

[@RamblingWolfman]

Nobody does it better than Bing Crosby when it comes to Christmas music!😋 I'm working on another episode trying to fix the problem. Hopefully, Audio Technica will address this issue since it's not just a few having the problem. Thanks, Slothsquatch!

[@r0mant1]

I got the same deck for Christmas and have the same issue with skipping/looping on brand new records. When it happens, it's always closer to the end of a side, usually last couple of tracks. FWIW I have also upgraded the stylus to ML variant. Put on Rumours first, side A was flawless (sound quality improvement is insane) but had a minor skip on Oh Daddy on side B and was slighly hopeful. Then put on Hotel California and it entered an endless loop on The Last Resort :lolsob: So not sure a better stylus is gonna fully "fix" it. Super frustrating as it's a great sounding deck otherwise esp. paired with a better stylus and an external preamp.

[@RamblingWolfman]

That's so weird that we have the exact same experience when it comes to the "skipping/looping" issue. It's only been on a couple of albums so far for me, but both times, it was side two near the end. Thanks for sharing your experiences.👍🏻

[@Boggedy]

@@RamblingWolfman Must have something to do with the auto-start/stop mechanism with relation to tracking. At least, that would be my guess. My fully manual LP120X has never had skipping issues and I've had it 4 years.

[@jedi-mic]

Well that's telling me the anti skate is too much, dial it back to the zero amount do this while it's skipping and you'll find it will sort out the problem. Also make sure your deck is level not just the platter but the deck I have noticed on cheap turntables I've had to correct a few that the platter doesn't sit very well on the spindle, try holding the spindle tight with a bit of rubber balloon in your hand and just slide the platter side to side in a rotation motion clockwise anticlockwise and then push down a little bit in the middle, make sure it is sitting level.

[@eldersong141]

@jedi-mic No adjustable anti-skate on the LP70X

[@r0mant1]

Just as an update in case it's helpful, a few other very crude things I've tried to "fix" this: - Replaced the mat with a rubber one which obv didn't do much (didn't really expect it to for this issue) besides just saving me some sanity from the felt one clinging to records. - Seeing someone mention penny on the tonearm to increase tracking force I did an experiment and tried attaching a paperclip to the tonearm's small handle after encountering a part of a record that was consistently looping. Interestingly, that "solved" the looping in that case and it played past that but then I removed the paperclip to see if it loops again and it didn't. So not sure what to make of it lol. - After the above, I thought "what if i get a thicker mat" so I stacked both the original felt mat and new rubber one together and it didn't do much either as it looped on the next track (and the same paperclip trick worked again). So idk, as much as I like troubleshooting things, I like listening to music more so I'm considering returning this table while I'm still in the return period and shelling out a $100 more for a LP3XBT which has all the same features but seems to be better built, not have skipping/looping issues and has adjustable tracking force and anti-skate (and is compatible with the same VM series stylus). Curious what you end up doing, looking forward to your next video.

[@amapan81]

For about the same price I could purchase this, fix up my mom’s old Visonik BD 5200, or grab the Sound Burger. I’m thinking that it’s going to be the Sound Burger! All the reviews look great, it’s quirky, and it can plug and play it with most of my modern speakers. Eventually I will get the Visonik working again, but I want to listen to records now!

[@onefatstratcat]

70X is too light on the stylus pressure or try some thin foam under the feet

[@wobblinwheel]

Call Audio Technica and report this to them! Their contact info is on the paperwork included with the turntable. I tried to post the number, but "somebody" won't let me...🤔

[@RamblingWolfman]

I'm actually working on that now. I plan on trying to document everything and make an episode on it.😁

[@Edub816]

I just got one. It’s skipping terrible on old vinyl and randomly on even new freshly opened vinyl.

[@costabravaguy]

Try setting the antiskate to 0 which may help

[@djsmudgeschannel220]

You can't adjust the antiskate. It's set permanently as is tracking weight.

[@OrbeaRider1820]

I also bought an AT-LP70X less than 30 days ago (so I'm within the return window). I'm just getting back into vinyls so my collection is quite modest. I bought some new records and one of them skipped so I assumed it was defective and I returned it to the online seller for a replacement. Then another new record skipped and returned it, and then another... I clean all records before play, TT is level, not close to a bass source and set up on a solid wooden entertainment unit on my basement cement floor so I'm pretty confident vibrations are not causing this. It hadn't donned on me that my TT was perhaps the problem until I saw this video! I contacted the store I bought the TT from and they said they haven't heard of any such issues until the fellow I was speaking to did a Google search while we spoke and saw the dozens and dozens of reports. They have asked me to send them videos of it skipping in order to return the TT but I returned those albums for replacements and have yet to receive them. Hopefully they will take it back because I don't want to have to deal with all that skipping over and over again and deal with AT down the road as I can see the pattern here. I am hoping to buy a different TT, likely from a different brand. Seriously thinking about the Fluance RT84. Looking forward to your follow-up video and what you may have uncovered!

[@RamblingWolfman]

Thanks, man! Sorry you have had so much trouble. I have been working on the follow-up by listening to several different records and making notes. I have also ordered different gadgets to try out. It should be a fun episode.😄

[@bulldogdave]

If the skipping is happening on the very same spot, I doubt it is a turntable issue alone. It could be that the weigh of the cartridge is not enough to play that part but that is an issue with the record, not the turntable. If it was an antiskate problem, it would skip in random places, not the same one over and over.

[@oscarmouse65ify]

Not a true solution to the skipping issue I'm afraid, but in the UK the difference between a new LP70 and a new LP120x on Amazon can be as little as £30 if you don't need a blue tooth version or automatic, the LP120x is fully manual. I don't know if it's feasible for you either by cost or location, but perhaps you could consider exchanging the LP70 for an LP120x and simply side step the problem. My son runs an LP120x and if has been faultless for in the two years since I bought it. I had a skip recently on my own system on a new record and know that feeling when your stomach drops although luckily mine was simply dirt in a groove and easily cleaned. I hope you get if resolved by whatever method,

[@northa4021]

The ATVM95EN is a great choice, you won't be disappointed!

[@shauntaylor9653]

It sounds like a cartridge issue as the issue on the record repeats itself to a point where you know where its going to skip. The stylus points will be shaped differently and it looks like the AT stylus is riding the groove where your Marantz stylus isnt. A couple of things to suggest are: 1. Check the tips of the stylus with a light and magnifier and check for damage or debris on the stylus.2. Check that the turntable including the platter are level as if they aren't then that too can kick the tracking of the stylus out. 3. If you have any hifi store in your area see if they can try out a temporary cartridge change just to see if it is a cartridge problem. I used to have an AT 120 X but now have a Technica 1500C so I have some previous experience with using an AT turntable. I hope this helps. Dont let this experience put you off as its a great hobby to get into. Good luck.

[@31cify]

Excellent advice. After 4 years of owning the LP60XBT, I made a couple of little upgrades to it last year. The stylus is now an elliptical, and the mat is now acrylic. Punches well above it's price point, and I've had absolutely no temptation to replace it with this new LP70X or anything else.

[@RamblingWolfman]

Hey, thanks, man! I have actually been doing some of these things, and I'm considering making another video on this subject. I love this hobby, and I actually love this turntable. I really just want it to work. Hopefully, all of this feedback and advice I'm getting here in the comments will help others as well. Thanks again.👍🏻

[@RamblingWolfman]

​@31cify Hopefully, I can have similar results after a few upgrades over time. I love this turntable and hope to fix the problem. Thanks for watching.👍🏻

[@TheAndy1268]

I could be wrong - so please forgive me in advance. The Marantz has a T4P (P-mount) cartridge. Those should have a tracking force of no more than 1.5g. Ideally they should track at 1.25g. But please look into that. For my taste, it seems too heavy. On the other hand, try the AT at 3g. I know that sounds like a lot, but keep in mind that for example the LP60 (with the 3600 cartridge) tracks at 3.5g. NONE of that will do any harm to your records, so I would say it's worth a try. Now for the anti skate settings... for the adjustable turntables the rule of thumb is, when your tracking force is set to 1.5, so should be the anti skate. If it's not adjustable, well there's nothing you can do, really. IF you want to know anyway, try getting a BLANK vinyl disc so you can SEE whether the stylus skates or not. All that being said, the Marantz is by far the better turntable. It SHOULD sound better than the AT. You may want to try and replace cartridge and/or stylus. Both don't last forever, I'm afraid, and the Marantz is getting on in years. Best of luck, sir!

[@Boggedy]

You cannot adjust the tracking force on an LP70.

[@RamblingWolfman]

I had the Marantz at 1.59 before it got moved around and stored. I just set it at 2.27 for a closer comparison. I'm working on duplicating this issue on more albums, and then I will try them on other players with the Marantz set to 1.5 ish on the down force. Thanks for the comment and for watching.

[@trondam]

Is your turntables level? If it's not level it can skip.

[@RamblingWolfman]

We will address that and a lot more soon. Stay tuned 😉

[@wesc1972]

I havethis turntable. I have the Bluetooth model since mid October and I’ve had a lot of skipping issues. At first. I thought it was on old albums that I recently purchased at like flea markets or what not but I bought a few brand new albums and it’s done that at least on one side of practically every album I’ve played. It skips way more than it should.. now I’m kind of wishing I would’ve bought the Sony instead.

[@BoomerBass523]

Thicker records (180 grams) slightly change your VTA (Vert Tracking Angle). This can also be effected by a thicker mat. If the VTA is slightly off from the factory this can add up and cause skipping. Check your VTA. Having said that, the most likely culprit is the new and more accurate stylus generating more heat and friction. In this case, I would increase the tracking force and decrease the antiskate force. Picture disks can be challenging and I’m not sure I would judge my table’s performance with a picture disk. Good Luck

[@Boggedy]

None of those things are adjustable on this table.

[@husky0877]

Dang it, that sucks. If your heart isn't set on an Audio Technica I highly recommend a Fluance. I've had zero problems with mine. The RT80/81 are often on offer and with the removable headshell makes trying different cartridges easy.

[@RamblingWolfman]

Well, I'm probably going to be committed to this tt since it was a gift, and I'm loving it besides this occasional issue. I'm really considering contacting Audio Technica and seeing what they have to say. It is a bummer, for sure.

[@husky0877]

​@@RamblingWolfman Have you read the Amazon reviews for that album? Lots of people have had similar issues. I've just ordered it to try.

[@danielleclare2938]

Add a 1 gram weight to the tonearm it will correct the issue well enough I doubt there will be distortion from doing that and no skip is always a better time. Conical needs 3.5 grams IMO.

[@daleanderson8685]

The VTF spec for the atvm95 series is 1.8-2.2 grams. The 3600L conical can handle that much weight but I doubt this one could..

[@tiborosz1825]

​@@daleanderson8685I use one on 1.9. Never a skip.

[@ryankartheiser855]

Picture lps tend to skip more. It could be that. I have a Greatful Dead picture lp that skips on my turntable. You might want to try playing more black or sold color lp and see what happens. Also make sure you have the turntable on a level and flat surface.

[@RamblingWolfman]

I'm working on listening to at least 10 different albums and trying out some things before I report back to y'all. Thanks for watching and the advice.👍🏻

[@fab208athome]

I would upgrade the stylus to the VMN95E - the black one. It's elliptical which means it comes to a point and rides the grooves much better, very reasonably priced and it sounds better than the blue version.

[@tiborosz1825]

Why? I use the blue conical. New albums are dishwarped or warped off center. Why would I wanna carve the grooves out at the wrong angle with an eliptical?

[@RamblingWolfman]

Thanks, I'm planning on going through the stylus upgrade path over time. What are the differences between the "black" and the green elliptical stylus? I didn't know they had a black elliptical in the 95e line of styli.

[@cwhitchblu]

One thing to check is if the support that raises and lowers the arm is fully down when the arm lowers. Another thing is your Marantz table using the same style stylus? The LP70X comes with a conical stylus that type of stylus doesn’t track as deep in the groove as an elliptical or more advanced stylus. I use a LP120X with the same cartridge but have elliptical (bonded and nude types) and microlinear styli that I interchange between. Never had skips with either of those. Also have a Sony linear table with a Realistic Shure clone with an elliptical .2x.7 elliptical stylus. Never had skips on that. The pop in your record leads me to believe that higher riding of the conical stylus in the groove causes the stylus to jump out of the groove. The fact it keeps repeating shows me that the factory set anti-skate is doing its job.

[@DirkGently1972]

Agree here. These turntables typically cheap-out on the stylus, as suggested by above commenter. It’s unlikely to be adjustable but the azimuth (vertical alignment of the stylus) may just be off on this arm design. As commenter said, worth checking with a better quality stylus, assuming you like the rest of the turntable.

[@jedi-mic]

@@DirkGently1972 azimuth is horizontal alignment not vertical. a conical stylus is fine usually the 0.6 anyway

[@wobblinwheel]

Let me make something clear: 1. I have replaced BOTH STYLI. One with the Micro Linear ($170) which AT sent me at no charge. It ALMOST corrected the problem..almost. 2. I put the ELLIPTICAL stylus on my other lp70x, and it changed NOTHING! 3. My records are SPOTLESS. The worst ones are brand new. 4. The tracking force is preset to 2.2 grams. Good enough. 5. My turntables are LEVEL...

[@northa4021]

I would replace the stylus with the ATVM95E. The elliptical will track better.

[@jedi-mic]

Anybody's got this turntable in the UK got the problem I wouldn't mind to have a look at it see what's going on

[@RamblingWolfman]

I'm enjoying the time with it trying to figure this out.😂

[@jedi-mic]

@@RamblingWolfman good for you☺️

[@Ralph-r2i]

Unplug it and move the tone arm from rest to spindle several times and check for more resistance towards the end of the album,,, the auto return mechanism may be not properly lubed from the factory or just need some working in… but make dam sure your anti skate is the same as your tracking force..

[@Boggedy]

Antiskate is not adjustable.

[@olefriesi259]

The needle is not the best. I personally would try a better one, like the elliptical, or the fine line. Maybe it stops skipping with this upgrade.

[@Ralph-r2i]

The new at turntable is not adjusted correctly.. anti skate, or something is off… there is no other reason it would skip

[@Dutch-linux]

well the styls between the 2 turntables are different... try to adjust the tracking and maybe just a little more weight on the AT turntable just a lttle tad !! as what works for the marantz will not work for the ATyou can also look up the stylus model number and find out what the ideal weight is for that stylus !!!!

[@Boggedy]

You cannot adjust the tracking force on an LP70. Nor antiskate.

[@jasonwilliams6005]

I see Amazon reviews of them skipping. Enough of the reviews say the same thing that there is definitely something wrong. I wouldn't buy one because of it. Also, the noticeable pop you now hear with the Marantz is likely the AT damaging your record by skipping before. Sorry to say, the AT is damaging your albums. RETURN IT. And that difference in tracking force shouldn't have mattered.

[@Buick54]

I just bought the same turntable and have played maybe 4 of my 1977 albums that I bought new back then and so far no problems. It could be the antiskate but as you know it is not adjustable. When you compare it to your Marantz player and it sounds different and doesn't skip either not at all or less keep in mind that what you are hearing is the difference in the phono cartridge/stylus more than the turntable itself. When anyone compares 2 turntables unless both tables have the same cartridge you are not hearing the tables as much as the cartridge/stylus. Ideally a good turntable should have a mostly neutral effect on the sound. You did mention that even your Marantz while it didn't skip it did pick up a "pop" sound indicating that the vinyl record itself has a defect which could cause the LP 70 to skip so that problem has more to do with the record and not the turntable. The Marantz simply handles that record defect better than the LP 70. In any case it wouldn't hurt to discuss the problem with Audio Technica if you feel the need to.

[@RamblingWolfman]

Yeah, I hear what you are saying, and I probably shouldn't have compared them in sound. I probably should have stayed on topic, but then again, I do like to ramble.😁 I was just so blown away by the sound deference that I couldn't contain myself. I'm glad to hear that not everyone is having problems with the skipping issues. I'm considering making yet another video about my latest experiences with the LP70X because it's another head scratcher. I might consider contacting Audio Technica and just seeing what they have to say. Thanks for watching and participating in the discussion.👍🏻

[@tiborosz1825]

To all the geniuses praising eliptical, you better have a flat even record and your tonearm calibrated to perfection, otherwise you will be carving some grooves.

[@LumpyOatmeal]

the marazntz is a pmount and should be tracking at 1.25

[@kevin-v8f8y]

With where the stylus is sticking, I would put it down to piss poor tone arm bearings and a mechanical auto mechanism which is not suitable for such a light tracking cartridge. Audio technica need to look into having an optical sensor trip rather than mechanical.

[@danielfarash2301]

I HAVE PLAYED 20 ALBUMS; 1/2 ARE SKIPPING!!! I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING. NEW SYLUS DOES NOT HELP!!

[@RamblingWolfman]

I'm currently about 7 albums in to reaching 10 different albums on this turntable. Keep watching to see my results.🧐

[@cryptoit9229]

I have an Audio-Technica AT-LP70XBT and the same skipping problem. The solution is a 1 EuroCent coin on the handle of a record player. :-) Problem solved.

[@paolomarcelogalvan1938]

if there is no deep scratch it should not jump, if it jumps it means that the problem is in the turntable itself

[@RamblingWolfman]

Thanks man!

[@jedi-mic]

Something's a bit weird I'm a bit early in the video I would have less anti-skate you don't need to set it to the weights of the cartridge. looking at the picture you showed try turning it back to 0.7, play the record where it's skipping and adjust the anti- skate see if that sorts out the problem!! also make sure it is level. Looking at comments it seems to be a trait, I would say the bearings are too tight and they're pinching up because they're not designed with the tolerance, you could try adding a weight to the headshell, above the cartridge say 1-1.5 grams, and adjuster the tracking weight accordingly, set it up normal after you've added the weight. Balancing the arm 5 to 6 mm above the record without stylus guide, that should give you the correct adjustment tracking weight, then adjust it to the desired weight what should be halfway between the minimum and the maximum for the cartridge or slightly on the heavier side by about 0.2-0.3 of a gram. Set the anti- skate for 0.5-1.3g. for instants, if you set the tracking weight to one and a half grams, don't set the anti- skate to that figure!! set it to say 0.5-1.2g. Also I have found that the anti-skate/ really called bias Adjustment is not accurate on the dial in most cases. reading off the dial you could be giving it more anti-skate than it should be having. Where you are playing the skip? At the same time adjust the anti skate while it's playing to the zero position, in increments till it goes away I think you'll be alright.

[@Jammerk40]

The AT-LP70X stylus is conical meaning it rides above the groove instead of the full groove! Get a Elliptical stylus because it rides deeper in the grooves! And maybe that is why your Marantz is playing better because the stylus is an Elliptical so try that! Good luck!

[@Boggedy]

People have reported it doesn't solve the problem, even with a microline. It's not the stylus, it's the non-adjustable tracking force. It appears to be too light.

[@Jammerk40]

True but I bet you can open the bottom and make an adjustment. I would try.

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

ALL RECORDS HAVE TO BE CLEANED REGARDLESS IF OLD OR NEW. 100% - CORNERSTONE TO KEEPING YOUR DIAMOND GOOD FOR LONG TIME. YOU DON'T NEED AN ULTRASONIC TO DO THIS JOB..DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE.. ULTRASONIC WORKS BUT YOU CAN DO IT WITHOUT THAT TECH.

[@RamblingWolfman]

I'm beginning to think the same thing. When did new records get so bad with debris?

[@gdwatts7407]

The lp70x turntable is a lemon 🍋 by Audio technica. Buyers beware

[@gdwatts7407]

Clean your records BEFORE you PLAY them each time you place that record. ALSO CLEAN 🧼 your STYLUS before you drop the needle on the record.

[@TheBudgie29]

They look like Ceramic Stylus, If they are, they will not be able to put up with today's recording's. You need to swap them out for Magnetic Stylus and Cartridge. As for the Anti-Skate, You can get a Record, that has a smooth side No Recording or grove on It 90's White Label Single Sided one will do. Or a old Lazar-Disc will do. Put the Arm half way across, and If It ravels towards the middle, Means you have too much. Turn the Dial the other way till the Arm rests In the Middle, then You are done. Tracking force for a 2-4gram Cart In 2:75 no more or less than this. Good Luck.

[@tiborosz1825]

Look again.

[@shaunsmith3660]

Change the stylus, the blue one is the bottom of the range at £30

[@ingenfestbrems]

Marantz have better needle. AT uses what looks like the cheapest/blue needle that doesn’t going down in the groove

[@RamblingWolfman]

Interesting. I would have thought that anything in the AT95 series would be better than my cheap stylus on the Marantz.

[@ingenfestbrems]

@@RamblingWolfman I’m sure you know it isn’t always the needles fault it skips. Personally I don’t like new turntables, had a few. Most expensive Rega P6 with regas own Anya pickup, and still I love my old technics sl1210mk2 much more, so guess I’m biased.

[@ingenfestbrems]

@@RamblingWolfman i think the 2 cheapest at95, blue and green are eliotical. Orange nude, red nude fine line and brown Chibata

[@kodithebear]

Your new here 😂

[@RamblingWolfman]

New again to this hobby for sure.😅

[@tiborosz1825]

Keep the conical stylus. Elipticals are for perfectly flat records...which there are non in new pressings. You play a warped record with an eliptical , you will carve out some side grooves.

[@Boggedy]

Nonsense.

[@RamblingWolfman]

I hope this isn't accurate because I plan on going through the whole upgrade path of the 95 line of styli. I believe all of the others after the blue one are elliptical. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@beachcomber3036]

I Can't Feature Buying a Turntable I Have 2 Put Together 😮 I Still Use My 1978 Sony Ps-X6 I Bought at a High End Stereo Store in Coos Bay Oregon 😃

[@LoveElectricStuff]

This is why people got rid of this garbage back in the 80s.

[@jasonwilliams6005]

That's a really helpful comment. 😂