Audiobooks VS Paperbacks: what's better for your learning?

[@sirpanpan5377]

For someone who has dyslexia, audiobook + the actual text is a great combo. It kinda solves con #2 and #6, but when the audiobook and the actual book doesn't match, it creates another con.

[@odysseas__]

Good point, I should have mentioned it. It's nice to have a voice to guide you forward.

[@JoJo-is-the-name]

Before humans created books and even for ages afterwards when the mass populations couldn't read -- we told stories verbally. During the time of Charles Dickens, people would flock to buy their weekly chapter of his latest work and then read aloud to their family as a shared experience. Books and stories were born from and sustained by spoken narrative, it was a communal experience. Even solitary reading done by religious members were traditionally spoken aloud (due to the typography/legibility issues). Audiobooks are just the modern version of this, adapting to our (sadly) individualistic society. Lovely video! I will always defend audiobooks, they have roots deep in human society. Also I think its just rude when people dismiss audiobooks because like... blind people exist LOL.

[@odysseas__]

Very true, and we still see that in books like the Iliad which are written in verse. Then again, maybe it was just the next best thing because of technology limitations of the time -hard to say for sure. Also yep, It goes without saying that they're more accessible for the people who need it.

[@hugoantunesartwithblender]

Altought listening came first, it has its flaws, in special the lost of focus. Reading requires a lot more process feom your brain and we naturally focus more in reading than listening. Theres a lot of studies on that, but even tge fact we memorize easier what we see than what we listen. (that's also tge secret in memorization competitions)

[@mborzd]

0:22 - Waiting for a video on how to get those biceps 👀

[@rykiyo]

I listen to easy-to-digest audiobooks at the gym and jot down recall notes in between sets. I've found that if it's easy to understand and extremely relevant, it minimizes the chances of it fading into background noise.

[@lachielee77]

I zone out way harder with audiobooks, taking notes helps but if I'm going to sit down specifically for that I might as well use a physical book and go at my own pace. The only benefit for me is notetaking somewhere I don't have room to spread out, like the train, or if I don't want to carry a physical book all day. Audiobooks are included in my spotify so might as well listen occasionally, if I had to buy them I wouldn't bother.

[@tylerkroenke7804]

To use Mortimer Adler's categories, I think audiobooks are excellent for inspectional reading. I often use them to "pre-read" books to get a good idea of the main themes and arguments. They are another tool in a tool box.

[@drwigglechin]

Some of the best thinkers in history do so while walking. Walking with an audiobook is a great way to focus, your environment can change your relationship with the book as well.

[@odysseas__]

I can see that, but for me, it's preventing me from thinking in a way. Maybe if I were to do both, it would end up as you say.

[@drwigglechin]

@odysseas__ lots of different ways to experiment and kinda tailor audiobook listening to the same style in which you read physical media. You could always pause to reflect on a thought you have while listening. Another approach would pause and then dictate your thoughts into a voice recording that you can then use AI to clean up and categorize for you. Then that summary could be transferred to your obsidian. I'd say experiment and find ways to incorporate it, could make for some good future videos as well. Thanks for your content! Need more deep thinkers like you out here!

[@jimh4072]

I love audiobooks, I listen on the bus to work and while working on my house, sometimes in bed and just fall asleep then pick up where I remember the next day. I have a lot of books on paper and also the audiobook. My top three audiobooks are Brideshead Revisited, The English Patient and Dr. Zhivago, I have all in print and audiobook format. I think I have a very romantic taste for a man although I also love true crime and gangster books. 😂 love your channel and always look forward to a new video. 👍

[@odysseas__]

Thanks, and they're a great genre to listen to in fairness. Easy to get absorbed.

[@adityak935]

Nah man. I just finished an audiobook today, and now you've uploaded this video 😢😢. Yes, I have retained much less info, than what I would have if I'd read a physical book, while taking notes. It was a good first reading tho, and I'm slowly getting out of my reading slump

[@odysseas__]

That's totally valid, especially if it helps you get going

[@jdmregal]

For myself, I prefer physical books. But to your point, whatever works for anyone else. I've often said I'm not a fan of e-books, but on the other hand, I think it's gotten more people to read who otherwise might not. I have who will listen to audio books while reading the book, then watch a movie of it, in order to get the book from all angles as it were. In the words of another friend--"What's the best system?The one that works for you." Great stuff. A happy holiday season to you!

[@jdmregal]

*I have a friend who will listen...

[@peternzioki4555]

I read primarily using audiobooks. They are fantastic. when I don't get anything I just relisten again. The narrator makes a massive diffference.

[@carythesnail]

I’ve benefited a lot from your videos in the past year, especially in your ideas of The Renaissance Man. Do you have any books you would recommend in particular about The Renaissance Man?

[@reghardc22]

I reread books quite frequently and find that audiobooks make these rereads feel less like chore

[@alohm]

Depends on the person, sometimes on the subject...

[@jdmregal]

The most famous writer of notes on books? Ann O'Tate.

[@Sparavala]

I learn English with audiobooks. My listening skills in particular. I listen to Harry Potter for example and in the same time I have a paperback open and I read the lines… I don’t like English but still need it so learning is not fun for me and this helps

[@nualafaolin7129]

I can’t get on with audiobooks, just can’t get drawn in as much, especially for fiction… also think you can “consume” a book by listening to it, but it’s not really “reading”… it’s a fantastic way for some to consume books though, it’s a more accessible for some, which is great! Different strokes for different folks…

[@DextonTeat]

I like re-reading books with audio books. After I finish a book I particularly like I will listen to it in the way to work. That way you really solidify the ideas in your head

[@odysseas__]

Nice compromise, I like it

[@dqan7372]

Ooh. I've never considered tinned fish as a hobby before; might have to look into that. My biggest misgiving about audio books is the multi-taskers. The same can be said for people who listen to music while reading physically; seems to me both deserve focused experience. Pacing is the main issue for me. Audio books are sooooo slow. And speeding up a fancy production doesn't do it any justice either. Not being able to quickly find and 'reread' sections is annoying too. If there isn't a hybrid of audio and e-reading, there should be; the searchability functions would be awesome. I can't rag on audio too much. Without it, my (possibly) dyslexic father never would have considered experiencing The Odyssey or Moby Dick. I myself have a recording of Joyce's Ulysses. I've read that it gets some of the local accents wrong, but I still find it enormously helpful.

[@LewisLittle66]

I just can't follow a book (whether fiction or non-fiction) at all when listening to it, unless I'm also following along with the text as well. After the first five minutes it may as well be spoken in a foreign language. It's the same reason I don't listen to podcasts, and why I always have captions on KZbin videos.

[@hugoantunesartwithblender]

I actually dont like audiobooks. I tried them, but fiction foe me is impossible. And is specially because of focus. Reading looks easy but actually it needs some effort, so we will naturally focus more. Listen is easy, so sometimes we wonder, just like someone is telling you a big story

[@odysseas__]

True, I find it's easy to daydream

[@yidingliu8663]

Audiobooks and audiobooks are different still. Some with very good production value are closer to radiodrama, while others merely 'books in audio form.' Sites like audible shit out both in great number. They really should be taken differently. Think of an author reading his/her own work, where the vocal take can add a lot to the understanding of the text. You may actually want to listen to it even after reading the text. Some Audible holiday special, on the other hand, is just something to sleep to when you can't find the pills. In the end, audiobook is just a format. A genre if you will. It can be a lot of things pending on what that book actually is.

[@odysseas__]

That's true, and it's good you mention it

[@Whoisjohn.D]

Audiobooks are a tool. Neither good or bad. I haven't shared your experience of zoning out whilst working out too. For me 30 mins is perfect. I use it before bed and recall about 90% and I use whist on the train with journeys over 1hr

[@odysseas__]

Great way to see it

[@JohnnyHikesSW]

Audiobooks + Road trips = better than sex

[@JarrettBeck]

algo

[@kanethegoat7768]

Your so cute

[@Whoisjohn.D]

Haha... 1st