Onkyo TX-RZ70 11.2CH AV Receiver Bench Test Results!

[@Audioholics]

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[@chrishamilton5960]

@@Audioholics Now it’s 1999 at Audio Advice.

[@bphilbac]

Great review Gene. You have been my go to reviewer for the past 12 years before I purchased any audio products. I appreciate what you do.

[@johnfurious8419]

Reminds me back in the day when all the receivers like Carver, Mcintosh, Pioneer, and Onkyo were massive, heavy with plenty of power.

[@1ufcfanatic795]

My Onkyo Tx-nr1007 is quite heavy

[@walterpen371]

Also the TOTAL HARMONIC DISTORTION WARS WERE ON. Remember that audiophiles actually believed that they could hear the difference between 0.03% and 0.003% THD / IMD???

[@danemoreno88]

Glad to see people taking onkyo serious again I’ve always had their avrs best brand imo and never had any of the issues they had in the past with any of mine .

[@thelonewolf666]

my RZ70 is the best receiver ive ever owned and ive had most brands and its better than many more expensive ones--by far, its engaging, its powerful and dynamic, its immersive and fantastic

[@robwr737]

Yes! Dirac included at a very reasonable price. Maybe Onkyo is truly finally back. Just 🙏 the boards and chips last. Thank you Gene, this was fast you jumped right on the testing for us. TY 🤗🤗🤗🤗 Freakin awesome 👌 big watts, low distortion, with 7 channels driven at a great price 👍. Dang, now I gotta find $3k. 😅 oh, crap, this will mean i need new speakers 🙀🙀🙀😂

[@Audioholics]

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[@firmbutton6485]

My 5009 still going strong with heat sinks on all the hot chips as identified with an ir camera!

[@JohanDee]

That the internal parts last, exactly!!

[@bootneylee9802]

Bang for buck. It's what Onkyo does very well. 👌

[@wezzman1]

I've missed these bench testing, more please.😊

[@larrystoogel2371]

Excellent review Gene. I'm going to keep an eye on this unit. If ever my Onkyo TX-SR805 dies, this is top of the list to replace it.

[@scottg8314]

@@larrystoogel2371 eventually your hdmi board will fail and overheat 😕

[@AJ-zl8bz]

Yeah, amazon had it down to $2,299.00, plus the additional 5% back on the prime card. I was waiting for Gene's review. My wife is out on a weekend trip with the ladies and there was no one here to stop me... ;) So I pulled the trigger, my denon 3600H is going to the fb marketplace. (she's been great) I was wanting more power for my 2 channel towers (B&W's), plus all my surrounds are Klipsch. VERY excited. (New gear is fun.) Thanks Gene, I will be sure to bring your name up on Monday when a big box shows up and you are partially to blame. I will be excited to see the additional coverage on this. Never used dirac, so hoping you drop a video on setting that up with the Z70.

[@Audioholics]

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[@stevet7487]

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[@Audiomainia2310]

You're a class act Gene - and another great in depth review. Not often you get this excited over a product, and I was about to buy the RZ-50 at $1000.00 / and I thought that was great. But your affiliate link has this receiver for $1999.00??? I'm speechless - and pulling the trigger right now. Thanks so much Gene.

[@Audioholics]

It's a crazy deal that I don't think we will see again anytime soon.

[@Audiomainia2310]

@@Audioholics thanks for the email - there was a link at the bottom. I can't wait!!! 😄😄😄

[@bwheels02]

How much better are the internals vs the RZ-50? Worth the extra $1k?

[@Audiomainia2310]

@@bwheels02 the power supplies have been redesigned and the heat sinks are far more prevalent. My personal advice - upgrading to the RZ-70 from the RZ-50 is not advisable UNLESS you find the RZ-70 on sale like it is at Crutchfield for $1999.00.

[@constantine5767]

Hi Gene, Thanks for your detailed review. 268 watts into 4ohms is great. What are your thoughts on the Onkyo RZ50? It's going for $999 on sale. How similar or different is the sound quality compared to RZ 70? Thanks

[@donwojtanowski140]

I just bought one. Right now I'm using the the rz50. I couldn't turn down the current price being on sale. Honestly above all Gene sold me on this.. Great review

[@kashima3626]

Just ordered one for a killer sale for $1799 new !! Can’t wait to get it to pump my Focal speakers

[@JamaicaSocial]

Hey Gene, can you PLEASE do a review of the cheaper RZ-50, the RZ-70 is waay pass my budget.... BTW the ONKYO rep for the US confirmed on a recent podcast with Giles that the RZ-90 is coming pretty soon. I'm already wondering how they're gonna top this and I believe it would have more power and independent sub outs and a higher end DAC 🤔

[@andrewskaterrr]

The Denon X3800h is a better buy. While I want to love the RZ50, it is a 11.1 output and no DLBC. The X3800h measures slightly better and has 11.4 output, and is DL and DLBC upgradable. You can get it for $1000-1300, same price as the RZ50. IMO the X3800h killed the RZ50.

[@JamaicaSocial]

@@andrewskaterrr So you have owned the RZ-50 or you're just doing a side-by-side comparison on paper? I've owned three ONKYO receivers and there is a clear distinction in the house sound of both brands. Denon leans warm while I've found Onkyo to be neutral. I agree about the subwoofer output.

[@Eki274]

​@@JamaicaSocialoczywiście kupiłem kiedyś onkyo nr 686 chciałem ulepszyć do 5.1.4 kupiłem Denon 4400 za 3x tyle pieniędzy co Denon.Tylko denon był nudny.Więc zmieniłem na rz1100 Całkiem inny sprzęt onkyo wygrało dynamiką uderzeniem jedyny minus Subwofer ciężko ustawić.

[@GeneA.69]

The bench tests are awesome but how about the sound of the receiver? Is it a musical AVR or does it really specialize in just the Theater sound set up and not so much the musicality??? 🤔

[@av8rbri473]

Badass Award 💪🏻

[@billhayes5047]

Had several onkyo Thx models in the past and recommended to my friends as well. They always were amazing value, but every single one myself and my friends, all developed hdmi issues. I know its impossible to tell for a while but hopefully no reliability issues and they can start rebuilding the brand. In fairness to onkyo mine was fixed on a recall. My friends was fixed by them out of warranty. Competition is only good for the consumer so I hope they play a blinder.

[@KCC46]

The systemic HDMI failures haven't been an issue for nearly a decade now. It was definitely a weakness of the late -00s/early-10s Onkyo/Integra design.

[@Bassic778]

Excellent review as usual!

[@svenverbruci2543]

Gene, this is impressive work (again). I've been on the fence on whether or not to buy an AV-receiver/amp as many of them don't perform particularly well. I'm coming from a Lyngdorf TDAI-1120, but I'm missing the LFE and this Onkyo looks most impressive indeed. The one thing that's holding me back is the absence of the manual PEQ you're talking about. I love that on my Lyngdorf. Any thoughts?

[@bertdegroef4205]

Hi Gene, first of all a big thank you for this review 👍. I own this unit for over a year now and I want to ask if you could be more specific on “holding the Nannie’s “? What are the correct settings?

[@slimjim1104]

Ive been using a txsr 876 since 2010. 140x7. The 906 was the flagship at the time. This was the next model down. Bought brand new for like 1200. Used it as my main power source for years. Now i use it as just a pre with poweramps but its still my main home theater processor. Hundreds of hours on it too. Never had an hdmi board issue but i purposely went with the 876 to get the higher end HQV hdmi set.ive had several onkyo and integra products over the last 20 or so years and have never been disappointed. I still use a txsr 601 in my gaming setup. Think i got it in 2001? I think about uograding to a 5508 or 09 to get xlr connections and true dedicated preamp because i still run a 1080p pioneer kuro 60 inch and have no desire to swap that screen any time soon. 1080p on a proper plasma still looks fantastic to me.

[@turnne]

You have been VERY lucky not to have had an HDMI board issues with that one

[@saplinbisjac]

Hey Gene. You've got a subscriber all the way from South Africa. Great content as usual. About the power consumption rated on the back of the receiver, did you measure the power consumption on the electric wall plug while testing or playing a movie or something? Asking, because I've the RZ830 which is rated 850 watt, however, I've measured the actual electrical power consumption while listening at reference level, 5.1.4 channels using power consumption measurement Bluetooth plug, and usually it never goes beyond 300 watts, with explosions etc. it would reach 350 watts momentarily for few seconds only. I'm keen to know this for RZ70. Thank you

[@Audioholics]

@saplinbisjac No I didn't but it's pretty easy to calculate. You'd be surprised how little average power you use during normal listening, especially if your speakers are all bass managed.

[@phzacarin]

Thanks for the amazing review Gene, seriously considering it as a replacement for my X3600H. Does it support 6 Atmos channels for a 5.1.6 configuration? Couldn't find that information anywhere.

[@Audioholics]

No. 4 height channels is the max for this unit.

[@buki231]

Picked up an RZ50 for $821 delivered from Amazon a couple weeks ago.

[@Eki274]

@@buki231 nowy czy używany???

[@turnne]

Picked up an open box Onkyo RZ50 for $550 plus tax at the Best Buy outlet

[@HoundDogCatia]

Thank you for the review. Thoughts on this vs. the Marantz Cinema 30 for 7.2.4 setup?

[@jokerzwild106]

Excellent review as always Gene. Not in the position to do a 3k upgrade to my system, just enjoy your reviews. Sticking with my Cinema 60, which is perfect for me at this time.

[@illogicman]

Stuck with a very good feeling about this receiver. Had Onkyo for 15 years and recently got a new AVR, the Anthem mrx 1140. It's now sent back due to a really ugly noise in all speakers (it's not a ground loop, but sounds like it). They've had it now for 2 months, so I'm in the process of demanding my money back. Plus, I was one of those who got the version were it seems the 50 cent fan they have in it, turns on max every 10 minutes. Really noisy. Like it's on a timer, not some sort of a heat censor mechanism. I've seen quite a few complain about this on avsforum. I was actually looking at the RZ50 before buying the 1140, but now I would go for the RZ70 instead and get the separated sub outs too. I guess after 3 months, there would probably not be any respond to this, but I would love to know if you'd bi-amp with the RZ70. If there's any benefit. I have a thought I cant get rid of - every AVR drops power when using more than 2 channels. Doesn't that mean that bi-amping would be a disadvantage on a AVR, as when you bi-amp, you use 4 channels? Or does the Crossover direct the nessesary power to the upper and lower drivers? We'll, you gave us really good numbers here with 130w 7 ch driven. So I guess bi- amp would be very possible on this compared to many other AVR's.

[@donwojtanowski140]

Gene are you still listening to the onkyo rz70? I'm curious to hear your listening opinions on certain types of music and bands.

[@Novilicious]

The integra version of it what I’m super interested in because it has xlr outputs for the front 3 channels!

[@talosian]

Love my DRX-8.4, go for it!

[@spydergkh6337]

Nice review! Thanks for posting! I have to wonder if this amp could be a replacement for 2 channel dedicated Jolida tube integrated that I use for my TT & CD player.

[@3js312]

Love Onkyo! Been using them since Circuit City days! Could you please do a video on how to prevent dust build up on electronics and the safest way to clean them? I’ve used vacuum’s and compressed dust spray.

[@gaurd3]

Proves the old adage. Good things come to those who wait. Glad this exists. The up-market is getting kind of silly.

[@miscreant1739]

Excellent work!

[@muhammedamjidkhan9806]

Hello there. Lovely review on TX RZ 70 Onkyo. Looks like a real muscle. I also have a onkyo reciever.. Its THX certified. The problem is that probably i had a wire shot at speaker terminals and now it does go on I have gome for a factory reset too but it still gives indication on the Panel for a milli second of CHECK SPKR WIRE and then goes off. Any suggestions how to put it right please! Thank You Regards Tony

[@zakblue]

I'm looking to upgrade my trusty old Integra integra dhc 80.1 to something that has 4k/atmos support. Where I live I can get the Onkyo RZ50 for half the price of the RZ70. I have external power amps I can use for most channels. Is it worth shelling out for the top model or would the rz50 do the trick? 7.2.2 would be the setup

[@greenhill26]

Thanks Gene! Wondering if you had this hooked up to your Sony TV you mentioned earlier in previous vids( 85x90l) during testing? And if so, did it play nice? Good eARC handshake? Able to access receiver menus? If not, no biggie. Just curious. Thanks!

[@gregorygoldbarth7464]

Greetings Gene, thank you again for answering my previous question and appreciate your channel and everything you do in the audio world. I’m definitely on the fence between the Marantz Cinema 30 and the Onkyo TXRZ70 The fact that you bench tested, the RZ 70 provides and uncovers a lot of great optimistic results. Should I be focused on the fact that the Marantz has a toroidal transformer and a slightly lower THD? I’m still on the fence. Your suggestion is appreciated. Thank you.

[@jsil36]

Thanks for the review. I'm looking at the TX-RZ70 how does it compare to Yamaha A8A in your opinion?

[@greenhill26]

I have the same question, Gene!

[@jsil36]

Yamaha A8A and A6A on sell at BB for 24hrs only starting today.

[@greenhill26]

@@jsil36 Also this RZ70 is on sale for $1999 at Crutchfield for 2 days!! that's why we need an answer :)

[@jsil36]

I went ahead and got the Yamaha A8A. Wanted to try something different this time.

[@emiliofederici9459]

Hi Gene, thanks for your usual great job. I'm a happy owner of a RZ70 since it came out (almost an year now); I must admit the unit had a few bugs with the first firmwares that are being corrected now with the new releases, but it sounds really good and love Dirac Live (with DLBC). My setup is made of three amps, with the fronts driven by a stereo amp (that goes into bypass mode when used for home theater) and the 5 other base level speaker driven by my old Onkyo multichannel power amp (PA-MC5501), so the RZ70 is just driving the 4 height channels (I prefer this setup, to spread the load on the two amps, even though the RZ70 would be able to drive all 9 channels on its own). My height are pure 4ohms and being heights they don't need all the power other channels ofter require, so I've set the RZ70 to the low impedence 4ohm setting, do you still think that it should be set to high impedence even in my particular case?

[@Audioholics]

Rewatch the video and my comments on the 4ohm switch.

[@NosEL34]

You should set it to high impedance then break the switch off so that you or anyone else never puts it in 4ohm mode again. 😊

[@Audioholics]

@@NosEL34 sadly it's done in firmware now and too easily accessible.

[@wells2671]

Thanks for the great review, Gene. Very impressive results. I know that this review is not directly about the Pioneer, but do you know if Pioneer plans on making an SC version with D amplifiers? I'm still happily using my Pioneer Elite SC-99 (the last one exclusively made by Pioneer), but I always keep and eye and ear our for what else is coming out.

[@Audioholics]

@@wells2671 AFAIK Pioneer and Onkyo will continue using g their current Class AB design topology since it's very solid and cost effective. I don't see them going back to Class D ICE in the foreseeable future.

[@SunnySayz]

Hey Gene...Great Bench test,as always. But seriously waiting for a SONY ES 7000/5000 Proper BENCH TEST from you.

[@Lolan1111]

Hey I've been loving your videos of testing receivers. I am planning to make a small home theater room but i dont want all the crazy setups, Every video i see these days is people showing the most crazy setups with 11 channels and every feature. I just want to make a simple 5.1 setup and be happy with that. That being said id love to see a video about your opinion on a receiver that gets high power performance on just a 5.1 setup. Can you get away with a cheaper receiver when only running 5 channels? what would your recommendation be to someone who is content with 5.1 and doesn't want to advance later to atmos or more in depth setups. I think that would be a neat video. What kind of speakers would you choose. what receiver would you use ? any tips or tricks for surrounding hardware like cables, speaker stands, acoustic foam? just a random thought A video thats kind of budget kind of not. Budget in the sense of less total equipment purchased but all nice equipment. nice center, fronts, surrounds and sub or 2 subs, should they be the exact same sub? does it matter? + receiver and any other things. Thanks for your content and educating me with all your wonderful information! keep up the good videos

[@felicepozzobon3147]

Oh man. Onkyo Tz r70. Denon 6800 and a10h. What does one pick? 🎉

[@bikdav]

I have a TX-RZ50. I wonder how it compares in multiple channels.

[@perrysmiles60]

It would be great info for us RZ50 owners!

[@MDavis2112]

Good afternoon Gene, greetings from Gunn Hwy ✌️

[@JohanDee]

Very nice, I owned top of the line flagship Onkyo Integra of € 4000 and after some years it started to break down and it was so complicated, it could not be repaired. It had superb high end sound quality! I had the same with a Integra cd player, wonderous sound, but this one had mechanical troubles and parts were not any more available. No more Onkyo for me ever... 😢

[@billywilliams]

Thanks for the review I have the NR7100 and I was wondering if this does that same random click every so often. I don't know when it does it just like it's changing something internally? Thanks!

[@DavidSusiloUnscripted]

Dang it you beat me to the punch. I’m in the process of reviewing the Pioneer Elite LX805

[@psyphonyxaudio]

...... Pre Amp Disconnect. 5:35 - The amps still receive power, from what I understand. I have to assume a set of relays are used to channel signal and power for this disconnect. Would it be plausible to do a passive amp connect via RCA jumpers on the back? .. I only say this ..because .. I've own 2 Denon units where the Relays failed. I can see how the back of a unit with 11 channel or more with RCA jumpers would be very busy.. but .. could that be more practical for routing and matrixing from the pre amp signals?

[@NMP660]

Was looking forward to this bench test, thank you for taking the time, Gene! I'd +1 to the other comments about a bench test of the RZ-50. One last suggestion, I was curious to see power performance with all 11 channels driven. Any reason you chose 7 channels? Thanks again!

[@Audioholics]

@NMP660 impractical to test more than 7ch, especially since you already reach near the limit of the power supply and standard 15A outlet. Also there are no audio analyzers that go beyond 8CH.

[@NMP660]

@@Audioholics Good to know, thank you for the reply! I figured there was a good reason. 🙂

[@jokerwonga]

Thanks so much for this, Gene. Would love to see you put the Cinema 30 on the bench.

[@Audioholics]

@@jokerwonga amp section of Cinema 30 is identical to the SR8015 that I bench tested a few years ago on this channel.

[@jokerwonga]

@@Audioholics Oh, that’s good to know. I’ve got a hard decision to make between the Cinema 30 and the RZ70!

[@gulamgh]

Hi for RZ 70 pls advise is the set up for Auro 3D currently running with 7.1.4 with 4 height 2 front height and 2 middle celling heights, Thank you.

[@Riv359]

Great review, like always 👍. Also, the Integra and Pioneer similar receivers have 10 more watts and different heat sinks. I'm not sure if that makes any difference.

[@Audioholics]

Doubtful, especially with the same power consumption rating on the back panel.

[@franclemont]

Wondering did you ever do this test with the rz50? If so I’m interested in checking it out!

[@perrysmiles60]

Please Gene!... test the RZ50 in the same way 🙂

[@Vish-cj8yq]

Hi, thanks for the review. You talked about pre-amp output quality. It would be great if you can tell a few budget priced AVRs with clean respectable pre-amp output. Thank you

[@nickzigrang2664]

I've been waiting for a straight up comparison to the Integra 8.4. This may be as close as it gets. Do you think there's any performance differences between the two that the average person will notice?

[@williampalmer4427]

So, Gene, if I add an EMotiva BasX A3 3-channel power amplifier (140 watts RMS per channel; all channels driven) connected to the TX-RZ70's left/right/center preamp outputs, can I blow down the walls of my 7.2.4 home theater? Thanks, Bill 😁

[@Audioholics]

@@williampalmer4427 I wouldn't use BasX to supplement this AVR. Use the internal amps in that case.

[@TrueStereo-]

Do you have any jitter tests? The Z50 seemed to have jitter issues as found by Audio Science Review.

[@Audioholics]

@@TrueStereo- the DAC tested just fine on my bench tests. Jitter tests weren't needed.

[@paultravisano9403]

It just needs 4 independent sub outs and PEQ and it's perfect

[@momsbasement656]

Yeah, that's the main reason I got a Denon X3800h instead. Also people were having major Dirac issues on Onkyo at the time.

[@mauriciob8260]

@@momsbasement656 you can add a mini dsp x4 and you can configure it to get 4 independent subs

[@turnne]

@@momsbasement656 Dirac is very easy to set up on these units. I have often thought that this units is the best thing out there under $3500. It best the Denon X6800 in bench testing

[@simonnaquin1252]

THX FOR THIS REVIEW..I WAS THINKING OF GETING THIS AVR..OTHER THAN THE SONY..

[@FrankGiovani]

Thanks for reviewing this monster. I wonder if it is worth $1200 more than the RZ50. Per my understanding, the RZ70 has two separate sub out while 50 has two sub out in parallel. What do you think?

[@Audioholics]

@@FrankGiovani yes, it's worth it if you're running 4 ohm speakers and also need 2 independent sub outs.

[@FrankGiovani]

@@Audioholics Understood and thanks for your feedback! Is there any advantage of two independent sub out if both sub are in the same room, on the left and right of the front speakers?

[@tulio3571]

Hi there i am trying to decide between the RZ70 and the RZ50 , i mainly need it for music , the difference now is about $1000 . The RZ70 is 140 watts and the RZ50 is 130 watts , will i be able to tell the difference when listening to music ? thank you

[@3184Patrick]

Very cool, looks like it almost has as much power as my Yamaha RX-Z9... maybe not quite, but close. If I was a onkyo/pioneer/integra fan I'd be pretty excited about these units! And $3000 isn't even that much for a unit like this.

[@ppsvandijk]

RZ70 has only 20 watt per stereo channel more = divided over the amplified 10 channels = 2 watts per channel. Is that worth the double price difference?

[@shaneb0422]

Does the four subwoofer outputs of the X3800h/x4800h (+amp) make them a better long term deal?

[@pgansz]

I have Polk R200's and R350 center that have serious power requirements that my Marantz SR5015 clearly can't bring to life. Seriously considering grabbing this deal right now! 😬

[@uprajsingh]

I am confused about being not able to draw the benefits from changing the impedance to 4 ohms on the AVR when running a pair of 4-ohm speakers. Wouldn’t it be beneficial for the amplifier to know that it will be drawing more current? If there is an explanation for this on your Audioholics website or if it restricts the amp in some way, then it makes sense. I understand that this channel is not responsible for any damage I might cause to my gear.

[@marconista5390]

Gday sir Gene, thanks for the rz70 review, for 2 ch stereo music listening this one or the Yamaha a8a?

[@Audioholics]

yes!

[@marconista5390]

​@@Audioholicsthank you sir

[@GeneralKenobi69420]

What cheaper options are there for people who want similar sound quality but do not need so many speaker channels or features?

[@madcrabber1113]

What is the warranty? Anyone dealt with Onkyo warranties recently? Since it was your idea for preamp disconnect, were you compensated? If not you should be. Which brands now offer that in which models?

[@patrickroza3073]

How does it work if you have louder content on LCR, can it push more watt to those channels when 7 are driven? Do the same rules apply to other channels? Basically can 1 or more channels (the rest not as active) exceed the measured per channel limit with 7 channels driven

[@chrishamilton5960]

345 on the bench as well. 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

[@franciswong311]

Does it support Dolby Atmos Music and 360 Reality Audio like the denon? Thanks

[@Nikita-P]

Gene besides power - how would RZ70 compare to something like MRX1140 you have - sound quality and Atmos channel separation wise? I’m gonna build and office system and wondering if I should get RZ70 and move MRX1140 4K to the office instead. I’m interested in dabbling with Dirac and adding Direct Bass Management, would it do better than ARC with Phase Alignment in 7.2.4 system?

[@Audioholics]

I haven't directly compared them. I love the MRX1140 as I own one for my bedroom system. ARC Phase Alignment and the whole calibration process is the easiest of all the room correction systems and does the least harm. The other room corrections like Audyssey and Dirac are more powerful and configurable tools but it requires more effort to get great sound. The amp section in the Onkyo is superior to the Anthem. It's not even close. If you're planning on only using the internal amps and you have low impedance speakers or like to play at high SPL, than the Onkyo is your choice. If you plan on preouting the AVR, then get an AVM70 instead with a few multi-ch amps.

[@Nikita-P]

@@Audioholics be curious if you consider one better sound quality then another. And you are upgrading or it’s not an upgrade to MRX1140. I’m a tweaker and probably a half a dozen measurements due to changes and dozen profile tuning options. I do use virtual inputs for Nite mode but that’s something I assume I can toggle in the Onkyo app

[@Audioholics]

@Nikita-P my bedroom system doesn't require more power and I prefer to keep the Anthem in there for simplicity since ARC is so easy to calibrate and it works for that system.

[@JCOTV]

I had an avr onkyo from 2009 that lasted 11 years despite the hdmi problem, now I have the Rz50 and is a beast, sad thing that the rz70 hasn't arrived here in Mexico. Need audioadvice Mexican branch.

[@gregorygoldbarth7464]

wonderful review! I can't make up my mind between the Sony STR-AZ7000ES or the Onkyo! HELP.

[@Audioholics]

@@gregorygoldbarth7464 Onkyo!

[@gregorygoldbarth7464]

@@Audioholics thank you Gene!

[@martinfarinha]

I thought I had found a perfect one box solution at first. I wanted a 5.1.2 capable processor/amp, so far so good. But would like to bi-amp front three channels for extra headroom...this would be perfect, it allows bi-amping front three channels, great. Only problem is it uses the main height channels for the bi-amped centre. Why not use the rear surround outputs in this situation instead of robbing users of the ability to use this receiver as a perfect 5.1.2 solution? Also why do these reviews never mention bi-amp capabilities and their pluses and minus points?

[@Eki274]

Hello, great review, I'm hunting for rz70 in Europe, but here unfortunately it's 2500 euros after a discount. Explain to me one rz70 1080W class Ab, of which 960W is available with 11 channels. And how does it compare to Onkyo rz3100 or rz3400 class D, current consumption 340W, and they give off what tests indicate over 1000W, how is it possible?

[@Bemx2k]

Is it offering better stereo sound than Denon AVC-X6800H ?

[@vermiderer]

Any inside info regarding Dirac ART release for Onkyo RZ70 ?

[@myriadcorp]

If this can max out a 15 amp plug how do you recommend hooking it up with a pre amp at the outlet? Seems like if you run a 5 channel amp and the AVR it will be blowing the breaker.

[@Audioholics]

@myriadcorp we don't stress amplifiers at maximum continuous power with normal program material. As long as your outlet is dedicated and not running on the same circuit as your appliances or can lights, you will be fine to connect with other electronics in your rack. I'm running two 2400 watt subwoofer amps on a single dedicated 20A line with no issues.

[@myriadcorp]

@@Audioholics Thanks for the info. I'm thinking about getting a refurbished RZ70 at Accessories 4 less for $1700. Maybe I will wait until black friday to see if there are any sales.

[@Audioholics]

@myriadcorp I wouldn't buy from them. Get it on sale for new through a legit authorized dealer or look at the Pioneer equivalent that Audio Adive often sells at discount.

[@myriadcorp]

@@Audioholics I have purchased 3 refurbished units from them over the year and never had any problems. Can you give me some details on why you advise against them? The last unit I purchased was in 2017. If something changed since I want to know.

[@Audioholics]

@myriadcorp I prefer purchasing from Authorized dealers with tech support. They used to advertise Harman products without authorization and got them removed as a result. Why buy refurbished when you can get brand new with good support for just a little more money?

[@marcoguzman6711]

Great video Gene! I got a TX RZ 3100 that I got about 6 months before Onkyo USA closed its doors. The AVR seems to share the same architecture as the RZ70 . 140 W , 11.2 channels, thx ultra and dual sub control. It is indeed amazing

[@Eki274]

unfortunately rz3100 has nothing in common with rz70 only with rz3400. I have rz1100, these are class D amplifiers and rz70 is class AB. These are completely different amplifiers with the same power.

[@SunnySayz]

Gene,SONY ES 7000/5000 BENCH TEST by you plssss✌🏻 Great Video for RZ70 👍🏻

[@VonMagXL]

The Marantz SR8015 has been on sale for over six months at under $2000 for a brand new 13.2 channel, 11-ch amp do almost everything AVR. I can't imagine why anyone would pay more for less.

[@Audioholics]

I owned and loved the SR8015 but it's no longer in current production and not a fair comparison. The Onkyo has newer HDMI boards, slightly more powerful amp section and Dirac support.

[@ms19631964]

I'm a Denon man. Nice AVR.

[@jf86459]

If you were driving 9 channels, would it be better to leave that extra headroom, or bi-amp the L/R and use all 11?

[@jf86459]

Anyone have any general thoughts/preference for leaving extra headroom or bi-amping?

[@LEMON48]

When bench test of Denon A1H ????????

[@donjaun540]

Hey Gene I realize you probably can't do it physically, but maybe with your knowledge and your groups knowledge you can do a recommendation for us either poor (me) to people that just don't want to spend a lot on speakers under $2000 a pair for the fronts and of course timber matching center and surrounds❓😮🤔🤔

[@arnelcomia2060]

Do I need to upgrade my average Yamaha rx850🤔🤔

[@codychavarria6088]

How does it compare to the sony which I heard has great spatule

[@Fathernimman]

Nice video, thanks :)

[@joescott701]

Makes me want to sell my RZ 50 and upgrade to the 70.

[@mauriciob8260]

😅this hobby will make us go bankrupt

[@markscreename]

Impressive! I'm hoping future generations of receivers go to class D amplification.

[@wezzman1]

To get class D right in an AV receiver it's going to be expensive. The RZ50 struggle.

[@dansuess4859]

The new models from JBL are class D.

[@wezzman1]

@@dansuess4859 but not in normal folks RZ70 price range.

[@dansuess4859]

@@wezzman1 They have five new models, all class D I believe. Big price range. No word if they'll be available in the US.

[@brewt1mer]

I’ve owned loads of amps and the two onkyo amps I’ve had have been very unreliable due to overheating..one which I sold to a friend actually caught fire..not good at all.

[@trauma50disaster1]

Still waiting on the Sony 7000 avr review for what feels like a year...

[@Audioholics]

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[@trauma50disaster1]

@@Audioholics Thanks, I seen that. Waiting on the review

[@Audioholics]

@@trauma50disaster1 Tell Matt Poes @PoesAcoustics to get on it!

[@housbinpharteen7445]

Out of my price range $4000 Canadian ... but very nice Receivers .. my max price would be $2000 .. because there is always something new coming out.

[@isak6626]

I have a 7.2.6 Atmos setup. 7 speakers are rated at 4 Ohm (bed layer), and 6 speakers are rated at 6 Ohm (height speakers). These are powered by a Denon X4500H, with external amps for the LCR (because I have to in order to use all channels of processing). I have never experienced any issues whatsoever, and so I was curious about your statement about it not being advisable / realistic to run 4 Ohm speakers of an AVR. Do we have any evidence to suggests that an AVR can't handle 11 (or more) 4 Ohm speakers in a real world scenario where Atmos content is being played back? I would guess that real Atmos content actually very rarely (if ever) demand that all speakers get such amounts of power that an AVR can't handle it. Or? If you do think an AVR needs external amplification, under what circumstances, and how do we tell? I have been contemplating adding more external amplification, but I have yet to see any evidence that it will make a difference.

[@Audioholics]

I was very clear about the impedance switch setting. I never suggested you can't drive 4 ohm speakers with this AVR.

[@isak6626]

@@Audioholics Yes you were. With regards to my question on the need for external amplification, what's your take? How do we know if it's needed or not? Is there a reasonably goood way to estimate the power need of your setup?

[@demonreturns4336]

Since when does the denon 4500 able to process that many speakers at once 🤔

[@isak6626]

@@demonreturns4336 since it's launch. It has 9 channels of amplification, but you can do 11 channels in total (e.g. 7.2.4) if you add two channels of external amplification. I.e. it has 11 channels of precessing, and the two subwoofer outputs are independent.

[@oldDH72]

Where in the setup menu is the Pre amp disconnect mode ?

[@BUZDRIFT]

Has anyone tried all 11ch driven ate 6ohm and at 4ohm? What's the verdict? Does sit just go into protect mode?