Audyssey Room Correction Performance Tips for Your Denon/Marantz Receiver

[@josephfranzen5626]

Missed the live stream but there’s nothing like waking up at 0500 to a new video from Audioholics!

[@BuckTravis]

OMG. Having designed, built and tested stereo systems and home theaters for 20 years I now feel vindicated in my personal experience with Audyssey. My current theater has never lived up to my expectations. Female voice, subwoofer performance and a lack of punch in music that seems to sound better in my Jeep! I am currently away from home but cannot wait to return and apply the knowledge you both shared in this video. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

[@svanhamburg3314]

How did it go, did it help?

[@e4superfly]

so what were the results

[@TMERUNNR]

Thank you Gene for your guess! I own the x6700h and this will help greatly! There's so much knowledge on this channel and its freaking fantastic!!👍

[@srworld2537]

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[@johnsolo1701d]

Hey I just found this video researching audio calibration but ended up watching the whole thing. I really appreciate people who are extremely knowledgable about a subject but also humble and clear about what is subjective vs objective. I learned way more than I thought I would as a noob, thanks!

[@pokenomad6855]

thanks for this! I just watch this on repeat in hopes to absorb more each listen

[@santiagovanegas3812]

Great video. VERY helpful!!! I've actually gotten that phase error you mention on my KEF IQ9's and IQ6c. I made sure the wiring was correct and moved on, as advised!

[@GaneshPerumal-qt1ly]

Well the phase problem popped up after 5years on silver rx6. And now the tweeter of that speaker is blown. Does it mean anything?

[@gaurd3]

Coming from Yamaha I was wondering where all the tweaks were. This app should be included. Especially when buying flagship ARVs.

[@33kw]

I have watched this video several times and learn something new each time. Educational, informative and entertaining. One of my all time favorites.

[@connorjohnson4402]

Check out the ratbuddy audessy program it will allow you to take the room correction files and load them up and adjust them on your computer just like the app and can allow for more precise edits to the curves.

[@TheoNicolakis]

Thanks Dennis!

[@mikemmikem2758]

I've been an audiophile over 60 years and this is the best AV educational video I've ever seen. Thank you very much. I own the Denon 3700H and am buying an SVS ultra bookshelf system shortly. I already own with 2 SVS subs and find that while Audyssey is a cool piece of software it should be used judiciously. Believe it or not I am still using my original Atlantic Technology (ATL) speakers from 30 years ago. I remember the old days of calibrating using Avia and the Sound and Vision disc with an SPL meter. All it did was measure feet and speaker levels. At the time I was using 2 ATL 10" subs. But what I vividly remember was those 2 little subs hitting me right in the chest - and that was from 10' away. Anyway thanks again for the video.

[@TheoNicolakis]

Thanks Mike!

[@connorjohnson4402]

Check out the ratbuddy audessy program it allows you to load the calibration files onto the computer and adjust all the same things on the app but you can do so in a finer level and it gives you a bit more info than the app.

[@bric7244]

Thank God I found this 🙏 With my marantz sr6013, emotiva gen 2 xpa 5 & xpa 2 with all new klipsch rp series speakers, which are very efficient does not sound right or what it should with running audyssey!

[@lordw9609]

Looking forward to watching this! Not an Audyssey expert so haven't had great luck with adjusting my Denon 3700. Also Denon support was exactly zero help with sound setup, only verifying basic hardware. My 10yr old Onkyo sounded better at times 😐

[@srworld2537]

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[@doctorrazz]

So true commentary! My 1st trip and monthly trips to Bay/Bloor Radio in Downtown Toronto right off the Yorkville region and almost on my U of T campus impressed me for a lifetime.

[@donaldgervais1836]

I've watched a dozen videos on Audyssey set up and I have run audyssey a half dozen times. I always end up disabling it and using manual set up. Sounds so much better.

[@Audioholics]

I get your frustration. We will be testing Audyssey X soon in hopes things will be better.

[@TheoNicolakis]

I was of the same opinion frankly until I was able to disable midrange compensation And get a bit more under the hood with the functionality the app delivered. That was a really big change audibly for me

[@xavdeman]

​@@AudioholicsXT32 right? Or is there yet another version?

[@xray111xxx]

Hi Gene. You had an effect with the folks at Audessey. Back in the beginning I sold a pair of Subwoofers for their research labs. It is about connections right. Great to see you as always. It is ARC times with Trinoff and Audessey and Dirac for instance. Tools that help along with REW and proper treatment and placement are the key. Most homes are pretty bad acoustic nightmares. Anyone who thinks ARC is the whole panacea is wrong and missing out. Sound blankets and other furniture tricks and much more for much less than you think. You are right Gene. My friend Lance has a room properly treated and then ran Audessey with ease and the response is outstanding. Love what you do Gene. I have been trying to reach you but for some reason can’t find your contact information. I will look further. Holly Cole was my demo selection for my audio sales. Jennifer Warnes was another. Basics and treatment are key. Not your bottomless pit of money you throw at it. Finally people are talking fundamentals.

[@TurpInTexas]

Great video! I wish I had seen this before last night.. lol!. I calibrated my Denon back when I first got it a year ago and never really gave much thought to how much occasional updates improve things. I bought a new subwoofer so last night I recalibrated (BTW, the new cal procedure is nicer and easier to work with) and WOW, what an improvement. Audyssey also caught my new subwoofer was not performing as well as it should and popped up an on the fly level adjustment so I could adjust the output level using the subwoofer volume control on the back of it until it was spot on at -75dBm (the target level), before moving forward with the whole room calibration process. That was a really nice feature, so I didn't waste a lot of time tuning the sound system for the room and everything sounded great after just one pass. The spatial imaging is so tight, if somebody is speaking, it really sounds like they are in a specific spot, as well as how smoothing things that are moving around are to track as they move. Can't wait to go back and re-watch some of my favorite movies now that the system is working so much better. Cheers!

[@jarodreddig63]

This was great!! I love Theo; he seems like a fun guys. Good stuff.

[@Audioholics]

Theo is one of my favorite human beings. Super nice guy.

[@suridemis]

Theo is a good guy

[@jarodreddig63]

@@Audioholics I could see that Gene👍🏻

[@drummerkev1627]

I first watched Theo when he reviewed the Denon X8500H and I just loved his enthusiasm about the product! I had an 8500 at the time I watched that video and Theo had me so excited that I had made the right choice. Since then I’ve now upgraded to the Denon AVR A110 Anniversary edition and it sounds even better than the 8500, which I had my doubts at first. But once I hooked everything up the A110 blew me away!

[@TheoNicolakis]

Ha ha. Thanks guys!!

[@kanariskanari7467]

THANKS IT WAS A PLEASURE BEING WITH YOU GUY I AM INN CYPRUS AND I AM A GREEK CYPRIOT

[@arthurriaf8052]

I just bought an RX-A6A! It will power the 7.1 system and feed my RX-V2600, both will be used to power a 23 speaker system in my room. I have 2 Carver M-400 magnetic fields amps (upgraded recently by a company in Washington state that knows how to do it) running some of the multiple subs and 2, 100 watt plate amps running 2 more. Then I have 3 powered subwoofers as support. Woofer size goes from 15" to 8" and my chair is centered between 2 ,15" subs that face down and the other 7 subs are placed around the room in all the resonance nodes. There are 42 separate speaker elements in 23 cabinets being driven by about 2000 watts in a pyramid shaped room with 10 foot ceiling. With carpet on the floors and hard walls with no square surfaces the room was made for the system. When I run a YAPO test the mic is on my head and all speakers are aimed at the seated location. The 3 dimensionality of the sound stage is like sitting front center of the stage. Very "live" when listening. I can't wait to finish installing the RX-A6A and connect everything then see what YAPO will do to adjust timings. Ah, audio sound, it's a cruel bitch! 😃👍

[@AskMeWhen]

I’m a little late to the party but the mic setup on a pivot point is genius!

[@ferrisburgh802]

Gene, love your channel. I would say that many audiophiles, high-end and otherwise listen to classical music and are big into music streaming so it would be nice to compare the sound of receivers and speakers using classical CDs. That really would show the ability of speakers to handle the highs and bass lows and not all speakers are good for classical music.Two disc that come to mind would be Also Sprach Zarathustra which was used in the movie 2001 as the opening theme and Saint-Saens Organ Symphony. So far classical listeners are under-represented.

[@doublet147]

LMAO when Gene "pronounced" a super chat name like it was from an exotic land (nooneignoreme) @1:11:10. He didn't realize it was "no one ignore me). Classic.

[@tagemathiassen]

Hi Gene, love all the videos and information you guys create, you say that audyssey flat sounds the best for you, but what you forget to mention is that flat bypasses your audyssey limmit (curtain) so flat always uses eq for the entire bandwith. Only the referance is possible to limmit what audyssey does

[@Audioholics]

I haven't used the regular receiver based Audyssey system in years so you may be correct on that but I'm pretty sure you can add the curtain if you have the mobile app. You can absolutely add a curtain with the PC ver of Audyssey on Flat which is exactly what I did in my system.

[@RonGallant]

Had no idea about that mid range curve. Removed and thank you!

[@UnitedRedDevil13]

I can’t find that. Where In the video? Thanks!

[@bobbyDig]

I found thbe Audssey app well worth the money. I tried using REW, a free and very power room correction software but like most free the user interface and workflow is less than stellar.

[@connorjohnson4402]

Check out the ratbuddy audessy program it will allow you to take the room correction files and load them up and adjust them on your computer just like the app and can allow for more precise edits to the curves.

[@m4nc1n1]

I have been preaching about turning off mid-range compensation for a long time. The app is worth every penny just to do this. people have no idea how good their receiver or pre-amp really is until you do this. My Marantz is day and night with this crap turned on. Movies just came alive with it off.

[@connorjohnson4402]

Check out the ratbuddy audessy program it will allow you to take the room correction files and load them up and adjust them on your computer just like the app and can allow for more precise edits to the curves.

[@trevorparmer5231]

This is a great video, thanks. I will use Polk Audio LSiM 702 F/X once my room is done (sitting in a box now), they seem to be precisely what you mentioned as your wishlist for wides; flush mount with angled baffles that are not dipoles (or considered bipoles). Just took delivery of a Denon AVR-A110, very excited to add into my system.

[@TheoNicolakis]

Thanks for watching Trevor and enjoy the AVR-A110 it looks AMAZING!

[@victormuriel7266]

Mexican Chocolate from Tabasco is really one of the best I've tried, & I think you must try it too!!!

[@wktek48]

Everything i wanted to know about Audessey and multeq app, great video!

[@Splenda257]

I think the Audyssey app and feature in my Denon receiver is it's best feature, but it seems like it is more complicated to use than necessary. That is, I think it's the best EQ tool, but it would be great if you could hear the results of changing the curve in real time.

[@srworld2537]

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[@seans4893]

This is great. Thank you so much Audioholics

[@coreymarotta]

I still go back to this review when recalibrating using the editor app, as I just did a re cal…no downside to recenter. Thank you as always Jene and crew 🍻

[@TheoNicolakis]

Glad you enjoyed and that this video was helpful

[@eurovw89]

Long time listener and follower, I appreciate all your hard work and putting together this video. It answered a lot of my questions, but I have three questions I can't seem to find any answers for and hoping you or someone readiing this can assist: 1. It was recommended not to use all (8) listening positions, but don't recall hearing how many should be used. What is the recommendation..3 or 6? 2. If we want to adjust my speaker levels after running Audyssey, where should it be done? Shouldn't it be in the app since the app over writes anything in that preset? If it is the app, how are the test tone played. 3. I can't find anything on how to play pink noise through my AVR (Denon 3800) and adjusting the speaker levels at the same. Is there direction on how to do so?

[@fan2hd277]

The number of tweaks you have to use to defeat the system is totally in contraction with the easy to use approach. One thing you could add is first try to optimize your room without Audissey! If you did the job well You will hear how much audissey actually damage the sound. I use it only on my AV8805 for connivence to tackle 50Hz room modes as my room is too small for proper treatment. And i have to admit Audissey does a good job in the low end. But great video guys 👍

[@connorjohnson4402]

Check out the ratbuddy audessy program it will allow you to take the room correction files and load them up and adjust them on your computer just like the app and can allow for more precise edits to the curves.

[@xavdeman]

Well that's exactly what they recommend at the start of the video.

[@Mjet403]

You guys Rock thanks for all the Tricks and tips 👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@larryhazelwood5491]

I have the 97 Technics THX center.Awesome speaker.

[@AeroPR]

This is amazing information as always! THANK YOU!!!

[@mattgiunt]

This was so helpful for Denon users but I wish someone would do this for Yamaha YPAO room correction.

[@melberg9098]

Big thank you for explation of the Audyssey hocus pocus i never got it right how i wanted to

[@TheoNicolakis]

You’re welcome Mel. Glad you enjoyed.

[@NickkaDUB]

I’ve found that with the shape of your ear 👂🏼, the bouncy house speakers 🔊 can be used behind you for a definite improvement in height, but absolutely not in the front. You will always be able to tell they’re speakers are toppers. Not anywhere near the effects of heights or ceilings.

[@eitanaltman158]

Pro tip: if you take Gene and Theo’s advice to compare with 2ch music to determine if you like what Audyssey does to your speakers, you can use the “L/R Bypass” mode for “no Audyssey”. The L/R Bypass setting disables Audyssey only for the FR/FL mains, but preserves the EQ on the sub. So you can switch between “Reference” (full range EQ) and “Bypass” (sub EQ only) while listening to 2ch music, and preserve the calibrated deep bass from the subs. So then all you’re hearing is the impact of Audyssey on the main speakers. If you decide you dislike the full range EQ, then you can use the App to lower the curtain to 300-500Hz, and you get some correction for the bass region only. (Also Gene you are correct that the Flat setting in the AVR doesn’t have the MRC dip if you’re using an old AVR that doesn’t support the App; however if you use the App then the MRC setting applies to both Flat and Reference!)

[@suridemis]

I’ve the same setting for 2 channel listening. Focal front speakers and two Dali subs. Marantz 6014 + Rotel RB 1590. Marantz 6014 pre out fronts

[@markym3870]

I found it easier to simply switch between DIRECT and STEREO for comparison as I was always going to use Audyssey to help smooth out bass. Just remember to use REFERENCE once you have set the cut off so it applies. You should easily be able to tell that FLAT is still applying full range EQ. It was night and day to me so I am currently only using EQ to 500hz but my old much less expensive still highly rated speakers sounded better with full range EQ.

[@suridemis]

@@markym3870 flat - direct auto = subs included is much smoother and not boomy for music listening in my room. Curtain 300 MHz. I prefer these settings. .

[@galzohar]

Are you sure? As far as I know flat ignores any curve settings from the app, including the range limiter.

[@jamierolls1919]

Thank you gentlemen this was so helpful.

[@anatoliylisovskiy6642]

I am a heretic, and used Audyssey for the different purpose, of course positioning the microphone differently. First of all, my 4-way system consisting of a horn sub under the floor, woofers in concrete boxes, line arrays in walls, with added arrays of tweeters, have pretty bumpy frequency response, that Audyssey made almost flat. And second, I do not want Audyssey to screw it according to inevitable nulls and bumps that the room causes in the microphone, even with a shelf from floor to the ceiling with a mattress topper behind it on the wall, but castrating the frequency band for it is the wrong way, IMHO. The next time I will try the app, thank you! :)

[@connorjohnson4402]

Check out the ratbuddy audessy program it will allow you to take the room correction files and load them up and adjust them on your computer just like the app and can allow for more precise edits to the curves.

[@SagaciousFrank]

I refuse to pay £20 for an app which most people say doesn't work properly.

[@Tec2Nut]

I was just going to ask about the Persistent speakers as I have the Monolith 15s and they are brilliant

[@wells2671]

This Audyssey plus add-ons seems more like a Rube Goldberg machine. As for the presets, I've been enjoy that feature on my Pioneer Elite SC-99 for years, it's part of the MCACC PRO set up. I actually get 6 memory slots that will save different Eq, channel Levels, Distances if needed. It's seems to me like all of these systems have their pros and cons, but we need them in order to get the most out of our setup.

[@PeteNice29]

I have 20 year old Paradigm Reference speakers. They already have a midrange/tweet dip. Gotta watch this kind of stuff, and the only gripe I have is you have to buy the app to address this.

[@stephenperthwa]

Hi just bought Editor App as a relative novice and going through your excellent tips. You mentioned that you don’t place the microphone at the 8 positions Audyssey advises. Sorry if I’ve missed the tip but how many locations for the 1 to 8 do you use and where do you place them please. I used your brilliant idea about the attachment to the Mike boom too, thank you

[@Jedi_Order81]

Great video Gene I’m really looking forward to hearing your review on the Anthem MRX 1140 & ARC

[@ranyothman5211]

Just in case this has not been said, if anybody is using a Marantz prepro with an Emotiva amp and XLR cables hooked up, you will get a false phase error during Audyssey calibration. All Gen3 Emotiva amps are XLR pin 3 hot and pin 2 cold, which is out of phase. Emotiva recommended that in order to fix this, reverse the speaker wire polarity on the output side of your amplifier. I can confirm that this works.

[@hj8607]

Put vertical blinds on that window in back . I have a wall of glass doors but vertical blinds stop any reflection anomalies . (they are also adjustable)

[@tedcowart6524]

I only changed the frequency to 80Hz on the speakers that audyssey set below 80Hz. 90Hz and above, I left alone. My fronts are from the 80's, and they do sound better with the midrange compensation.

[@tedcowart6524]

@@shaolin95 Thanks for the verification.

[@Squishmallows24]

One thing never gets mentioned is the filter frequency range on a subwoofer. It lets you set it between 20hz to 250hz. I’ve come across some people on your tube that set that 20hz but don’t explain why lol

[@arsenalfan1776]

Fantastic video thanks Gene

[@drummerkev1627]

Great video! I’ve been waiting for a really good tutorial like this for Audyssey! A friend of mine and I both just bought the new Anniversary edition Denon AVR A110. We’re both also using external amps especially for our sound stage. One thing I’ve found on this video that’s not correct, well, at least not with my A110, is you CAN adjust your subs in the red above 75db and it’ll still let you continue with the calibration using whatever DB level you chose. For example I chose 80dbl’s and I could still continue with Audyssey for the rest of the way. So you may want to double check that again. Maybe they just started letting us do this? IDK? As I just ran Audyssey last week. But I had no problems with my dual SB16 Ultra’s.

[@TheoNicolakis]

There are newer tweaks in the 2020 models with Audyssey such as being able to load two measurements that are not in pre-2020 models. This may be another (?)

[@drummerkev1627]

@@TheoNicolakis yes, I posted that in one of Gene’s other videos. Since the A110 is supposed to be the “Anniversary Edition” of what Denon has achieved. You’d think it would have every possible feature Denon offers in their 2020 models. Especially since the A110 was made in Oct 2020. Regardless of it being an Audiophile version of the 8500. But, with the Audyssey app you can store as many preset calibrations as you want as long as you’re willing to update the A110 with the app.

[@connorjohnson4402]

@@TheoNicolakis Look into the Ratbuddyaudyssey program it allows you to take the files from the room corrections and bring them up on the computer and adjust them in more detail and can do everything the apps can do and more. Its worth checking it out !!

[@chrissheldrick4073]

Hey there.. So how are you finding the 110 performance.. Is it an upgrade to the 8500h.. Thanks

[@ddcrocky3831]

On MiltiEQ Filter Frequency Range do I adjust every speaker channel two 200 - 300 or just the mains Thank You

[@daveclifton1256]

Can't decide if I should buy my 15" pro studio in the back and my Sony 6.5" bookshelfs on stands along with a my Kenwood 8" non powered subs but have a line in and line out to the bookshelf with also got a set of JBL balcony speakers with the other sub while I take that back my plan is to run each left side of the speaker of the left of the receiver and the right speakers on the right speakers also was told that is true stereo with multiple speaker then when you use the eq it will work better

[@mikeausra6950]

great learn every time thanks amen >

[@Wootts007]

This video is great. helped loads setting up my new AVR. 🤩

[@connorjohnson4402]

Check out the ratbuddy audessy program it will allow you to take the room correction files and load them up and adjust them on your computer just like the app and can allow for more precise edits to the curves.

[@TheoNicolakis]

Happy to hear it helped Barry!

[@seanki]

Good video, sadly my Denon avr does not have app support. However, Denon themselves and many other claim that the distances set with Audyssey is measuring delay. Not physical distance. So measuring the physical distance yourself doesn’t make sense, I notice I get best result when I leave the distances alone, especially bass.

[@richardbulot2785]

I followed your recommendations and I cannot believe how much better my audio sounds on my Denon X2600 H. Please let me know how to delete a scan from the Audyssey app on my iPad. Thanks very much!

[@TheoNicolakis]

Great to hear Richard. Click on EDIT in the upper right, select the curve you want to delete, press the trash icon in the upper left.

[@richardbulot2785]

Thanks Theo It worked.

[@Buellboy]

Obviously, I searched for an answer before I’m posting, but I just wanna be clear if I run odyssey through the iPad app and send my results to the processor. Are you saying that I can’t go in with the remote and manually adjust the subwoofer levels without messing something up?

[@GGg-ic9ku]

1. Which day audio test tone file to use? 2. How to send sound to JUST subwoofer in my Denon 750h avr from my iPad? Unplug them? Newbie to all this stuff. Thanks!

[@MiccaPhone]

38:05: This Pink-Noise download page from Dynaudio does not exist any more. I assume the audiocheck's 15 min mp3 file or 30 sec wav file for pink noise serves the same purpose?

[@butchmotors]

You guys say to get it right sounding right in 2 channel listening to music first. Do you mean playing a cd through the blue ray player and with option set to music, and wich stereo mode? Basically my atmos setup to me sounds incredible, but trying to get good 2 channel audio out of my marantz av7702 has never happened for me. The music just sounds lifeless. I basically just use my marantz for atmos and other surround formats and have another amp and pre for stereo listening. I feel my marantz should sound excellent in 2 channel stereo but it sounds horrible. I have a switch box to switch my mains between my surround amp and my 2 channel amp. Any advice?

[@bernardl.7480]

I just watched this video and i want to thank you so much for the quality and quantity of infos regarding MultEq-X room correction.It's been of great help for me in my own room correction. I was wondering if you've noticed that recommandation in the MultEQ-X user guide ,page 21 under "Tips for taking measurements" item 7 says "Vary the height of the microphone by a few inches between measurements positions to account of the standing waves between the floor and ceiling".Have you experimented this? could it bring a significative change or refinement in the whole calibration process? Thank you in advance for your answer

[@TheoNicolakis]

Yes, try doing exactly that, and you can compare the results with other profiles that you measure. If you are calibrating for a single sweet spot, then I suggest you stay within that 20 inch or so mark that I mention in the video otherwise you’re going to spread the calibration measurement parameters out too far.

[@missing1102]

The Schroeder frequency makes a huge difference for me for music.

[@dwighttaylor5288]

So, if I have an iphone 14 transmitting audio to my vintage system I'm assuming I don't need either one of these? What would you suggest for iphone users?

[@Antimonkat]

Sweet my odler Cambridge audio MC500 was a wmtw design, I love that thing, it really pounds.

[@georgefrazier8404]

When I slide the cut off for the frequencies, you said, roughly between 200 and 300 do you do it for every single speaker? When using the mobile app

[@pfritts3111]

The people at Audyssey seem very anti flat setting for whatever reason. I'm for whatever sounds best. Trying it tonight!

[@ddcrocky3831]

What's better high frequency roll off 1 or 2 thank you

[@Squishmallows24]

After Audyssey calibration I turn off dynamic eq because my 2 surrounds are too loud and my bass feels boomy. Audyssey sets my subs at -9 and -8.5db. You say when dynamic eq is off subs are then -3 to -6db lower output. What’s weird is that if I then set both subs -3db lower so -6 and -5.5db with dynamic eq off it sounds boomy again. If I just leave my subs to what Audyssey sets them with dynamic eq on to -9 and -8.5 but with dynamic eq off the subs sounds “tighter/punchier” so is it just my room? Why can’t subs just be easy to setup haha

[@macthe_spoon6450]

Hi guys, really useful video, thanks for doing this. One thing to ask: The link to the Dynaudio pink noise files doesn't work any more, do you have any suggestions for an alternative source?

[@kapooranuj]

Ratbuddssey is a tool developed by some enthusiast, windows based eq editor app tweak tool. You import the app takenesaurement into the tool and then per speaker basis type out frequencies, q factors and boost or cut value like a very advanced PEQ. Save it, import it back into the eq app and then send it over to the AVR. Great in theory, but my experience was that whatever I did i could not see any difference from the original graph (using REW).

[@connorjohnson4402]

Yea i wish he didnt gloss over it cause i think it can be a good option for editing curves if you only have a phone and it would be really useful for the people from audioholics to check it out and see

[@alvirdarkside6824]

Very helpful, thank you!

[@snauspockets9924]

I live near a busy road and all I want is PLEASE add a PAUSE TESTING feature between speakers during the test. Or better yet it could be done speaker by speaker one at a time? I could wait for a dead silent moment and test the speaker and then wait for another and hit the next speaker....That would be wonderful...I just think it is a no brainer to add something to deal with unexpected sounds. Maybe a stop and restart back one speaker if something happens? I need to be able to pause the testing when I hear a big truck or noisy car coming. It is very frustrating getting five or eight speakers in round after round and then you hear the truck coming and there is nothing to do but cancel the whole thing. Unless I missed something...unlike the AVR audyssey, the app won't let you start that round over... it makes you cancel the entire thing and start over

[@voiceofreason9238]

You don't have to start over. After the test for one of the 8 positions is complete then there is an option at the bottom is to "repeat test. Marantz SR6011.

[@snauspockets9924]

@@voiceofreason9238 I am referring to the multi eq app. Are you?

[@voiceofreason9238]

@@snauspockets9924 No, not the app. I was referring to the Marantz 6011 version of Audyssey. Sorry if I was confused and confusing.

[@snauspockets9924]

@@voiceofreason9238 no problem I knew what you meant. The Denon AVR has that option too but I use the app and it does not have that option. Can be pretty frustrating.

[@connorjohnson4402]

Check out the ratbuddy audessy program it will allow you to take the room correction files and load them up and adjust them on your computer just like the app and can allow for more precise edits to the curves.

[@ryandonahue6809]

I have a Marantz NR1711 newly purchased for a business office and they want to control the volume using the web interface. The NR1711 doesn't appear have this function like the Marantz NR1601 from several years ago. Do you know any work around for this? also how can you have "All Zone Stereo On" as a default setting so when you power on the receiver it is already on? Thanks in advance, love your videos!

[@Antimonkat]

Only time i see people use "wides" is as a first and second side surround, for like 2+ rows of seating, and not sure that's really giving them the intended effect. The Prime elevations could be used as on wall wide's, since they are angled, but not adjustable, so would have to do it by horizontal location on the side wall to get the tweeters in line with the listening position, and while good, it isn't the best speaker if you have higher end ones integrating with it, but it's a thought.

[@MiccaPhone]

At 34:09, 43:07, 43:36, 48:00, you guys say about Dynamic EQ, Dynamic Volume, LFC: Set all this in the app, not in the AVR itself. I do not quite understand why. Couldn't I just set all these options to "Off" in the app, then load it to the AVR, and later-on in the AVR I could still decide to e.g. set Dynamic EQ to "ON" when needed (e.g. when playing music at low volumes) while keeping the other settings unchanged. And similarly for Dynamic Volume and LFC? I also think the OSD menu in the AVR has the options to set these to more different values then just ON or OFF, so I could tune it finer to my needs than in the mobile app. Or can't I set these settings in the OSD any more when my Audyssey calibration stems from the mobile app, and it only works when I do the Audyssey room calibration on the AVR without app?!?

[@galzohar]

Why do you suggest disabling Dynamic EQ without any explanation? I find that when listening below reference it works nicely as Auddysey documentation suggests, as long as appropriate reference level offsets are used. You can't compensate for that with the curve as the curve is fixed for every volume level.

[@johnpoo1662]

agreed :) for the majority of us reference level in a home environment is overkill so DEQ works great.

[@xavdeman]

For me Audyssey XT's Dynamic EQ boosts surrounds way too much.

[@timealchemist7508]

Great content guys. Keep it coming! Prost!

[@SpeedDemon82]

Do you also limit the hz of the woofer or should you leave it at 250?

[@jeffm2787]

How do you get pink noise to each channel from an external source? Left and right is no problem, all the other speakers, no clue. I've yet to find an app or program that'll send to each channel. Running a 7.2.4 setup. Also the app is horrible on an iPad to adjust the curves. It's like fighting a greased up snake.

[@Richard-bq3ni]

Send the noise to all channels and only plug the speaker that you want the noise from. You could perhaps create a multichannel audio file with pink noise only in one channel. I don't know if you can use audacity for that or any other wave editor.

[@eitanaltman158]

If you download REW and plug the laptop into the AVR with HDMI, you can send discrete tones to the main 7.1 channels. Doesn't support the heights though, but those are the least important. If you find a copy of the Atmos Demo Disc blu-ray, there's test tone tracks for various Atmos setups including 7.1.4.

[@jeffm2787]

@@eitanaltman158 Excellent information, thank you. I play around with REW all the time, mostly with my PC and Equalizer APO. I'll give what you suggest a try.

[@mustafajaleel6351]

Totally love all the livestream topics... but one thing is missing in multy subs.. what if someone only has 2 subwoofers.. in the option on 4 subs at corners what should one do.. same side front and back or diagonal front and back !!! As most of us would have 2 subs

[@Audioholics]

It really depends on the room but you can try 1 sub in each corner if you want the most LF coupling. One sub front/rear midwalls can give really good seat to seat consistency but not as much LF coupling as corner placements. Diagonal corners can work but a bit tricky.

[@mustafajaleel6351]

@@Audioholics thanks for such a prompt response !! most of us would like to go with the tricky option or atleast i would like to go for that !!! any headsup for a better understanding or probably a live stram on it ?

[@kapooranuj]

One question. I believe if you choose any other setting apart from reference (as you've recommended flat) then the tweaks you applied to app like mid range comp off, freq limiting, etc are all going to default back. Can anyone confirm?

[@bme7491]

How do you make that choice? In the app or the AVR?

[@BFArch0n]

Doesn't turning off center speaker (denon x3600h) give you a phantom center? Sure seems like it with my theater. Sounds great.

[@nkojima]

this is great thank you

[@GaneshPerumal-qt1ly]

Multi eq app is very very lagggggy.... Cant adjust the curves anymore with the app Help!!

[@spencerbigum1309]

Just found this - amazing resource. Im making my way through the steps but I'm stuck looking for FLAT vs. Reference for my front speakers. I can only find it when using the AVR - I don't see it in the app. Any ideas? Thanks so much for putting this together!

[@Smellslikegelfling]

Great information as usual. I'm going to try some of these tips to recalibrate my home theater setup. Couple of questions though: A lot of people are pushing to get the biggest subs I can afford, usually 15" or 18". Are you saying that I would be better off with multiples of 10" or 12" instead? My room is extremely large, 6000+ cubic ft open floor plan with vaulted ceilings. I know SVS PB-1000 is cheap enough I could afford 4 of them for less than one 18" sub. Second question, Klipsch RP-8000F vs Paradigm Premier 800f. Are the Paradigms worth double the price of the Klipsch?

[@betitos11]

I've owned at least a handful of Onkyo receivers and they all had the "Eiffel Tower" audyssey mic. The last Onkyo receiver i bought was back in 2015 and it came with the " hockey puck" style setup mic. Did they go back to the tall mic again? I have both mics that i can use with my 2015 Atmos receiver 😳😜😄

[@TheoNicolakis]

I haven’t had an on cue receiver in hand for review in some time so I can’t give you a definitive answer. That being said you want to use the mic style that came with your AVR.

[@akaGoolash]

My Audessy app is not provide this information about subwoofer :/

[@cmssajith8764]

Not only by the xover guy but also by Amir from AudioScience review said the same about the 2k hz dip in the klipsch RP speaker and considering the mid compensation in the denon n marantz it will make it worse.

[@homeboi808]

It would actually make it better, as the Klipsch has a bigger dip, so Audyssey will boost it to fit its dip. Turning it off is still preferred though.

[@cmssajith8764]

@@homeboi808 Is that speaker's inherent 2k dip good? Audessey with compensation will make it worse. 2k is a critical freq range.

[@homeboi808]

@@cmssajith8764 No good speaker should have a dip. As stated, Audyssey’s dip is not as bad, so it will improve the Klipsch’s dip, but turning off MRC will improve it even more.

[@joshfoss7407]

Just ran through XT32 on my x3700h. Results seem different but I still need testing and REW measurements to compare setting my Tekton DI as small/large. Coming from a Pioneer sc-27, I'm kind of amazed at how feature lean XT32 is in comparison. MCACC had 5 profile banks with the ability to set different EQ curves on the fly for them 15 years ago and Denon gives us 2 and boasts about it as a "new" feature. I was also kind of surprised by how the entirety of the calibration was just 3 short chirps and that's it. Maybe it's just so much better that it doesn't need all the extra tests, but it doesn't inspire that confidence in me. PEQ is a pretty big miss here as I'd like to limit the room correction, but at the same time we've been watching movies and the highs in action movies and thing like The Hobbit/LOTR have been painfully piercing, so I need the full ban to ad din a downslope for the treble.

[@tahirhameed-mth1530]

Watched many videos on home theatre but when I use hit and trial according to my ears, room, media player over three months. Finally got best settings. There is no straight line of settings.

[@MiccaPhone]

44:05: How do you do this measurement, how do you get this graph? With which tool? Is this also done with the Audyssey smartphone app? I understand that this is measured after Audyssey calibration with all speakers and subs being active simultaneously. So I must play some test signal here. And then if I get the red curve, where and how in Audyssey app do I have to frickle to get the blue curve? Just kind of random trial & error of playing around with modifying delay values a bit as I understand (44:51)?

[@ts6640]

I have to ask, where is the tutorial on MULTEQ-X? I keeping hearing you guys are coming out with one but can you give me any guidance on “when”?

[@mustangfred2006]

Maybe I'm a little confused. If your only measuring 20" away from the MLP, how are you supposed to measure a multi seat home theater room? I must have misunderstood.

[@shenzhen2112]

I just bought a Denon because it was literally the only receiver left at Best buy because of Bidenomics. Did basic set up and it sounds amazing. I'm going to try you audiophile's guidance tomorrow and see if I can kill myself softly with a song.

[@stever6282]

Can somebody pleasy explain, how to Set SPL for each speaker, including the Sub, to 75 DB without using the Test Tone in Menue. If i use the pink Noise test tones its playing from every speaker at the same time. I dont understand this

[@jr62inhometheater98]

If you find out please post it. I didn’t load the pink noise files, for one the Dynaudio app they suggested loading does not work with IOS14 and up. Now I do have a Atmos demo disc which has the test tones on the disc which you can play for each speaker. But the problem is that to change the levels you have to engage the pink noise from the AVR, and then you are stuck. If you use the master volume to get the pink noise up to 75 db then you disengage the Audessey , according to Gene. So how the he’ll is that done?

[@TheoNicolakis]

If you have a disc with pink noise to play by channel you start playing through the left speaker and increase the volume on the AVR until you hit 75db on the SPL. if you were doing it through a disk then you are absolutely doing it through Audyssey. If you run the internal test tones from the MANUAL setting in the AVR then you are bypassing it according to the Audyssey team.

[@jr62inhometheater98]

@@TheoNicolakis okay I get it, but once you open the manual speaker section you can’t adjust the level of the speaker without starting the pink noise from the AVR which disconnects the Audessey. So unless I have missed something I don’t see how this can be done.

[@jr62inhometheater98]

@@jackrosati1438 that may work I will think about that. If you try it and it works be sure to comment.

[@AngryCellist]

laptop + REW + HDMI cable to AVR

[@georgebedorf7950]

I have had a Marantz 7007 for about six years. This video was informative because the on screen audyssey guide shows microphone positions at literal seating positions with no mention of the 21 inches from main seating position restriction. There is no mention of this in the operating manual. Is this a newer requirement that does not apply my version of Audyssey? This seems to fundamental to have been missed in this huge manual that was shipped as a CD.

[@TheoNicolakis]

It’s definitely one of those fine print things and it’s very easy for people to miss. I agree it should be more obvious. I’ve encountered enthusiast who are telling me that they are measuring near the side walls and here and there and creating all this Voodo. It’s pretty straightforward not more than 2 feet from the primary listening measurement. :-)