Audiophile Battle: UHQR vs OJC of Bill Evans Trio's 'Waltz for Debby'

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@VinylLatte 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching my review of Waltz for Debby! 🙌 Be sure to check out my review of "Sunday at the Village Vanguard": kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6K3e4yDbrCsm9k

@budsmoker4201120 3 ай бұрын

I love all my OJC pressings. They sound amazing. I will buy 3 OJC's over one uhqr. Never had a problem with a noisey OJC sound floor

@VinylLatte 3 ай бұрын

I've been extremely happy with the series as well. You honestly cannot go wrong with picking up an OJC title. Thanks for stopping by!

@budsmoker4201120 3 ай бұрын

@@VinylLatte Right on bro, jammin the John Coltrane and Kenny Burrell album now..... One of my favorites

@budsmoker4201120 3 ай бұрын

Keep making these great vids bud

@VinylLatte 3 ай бұрын

@@budsmoker4201120 thanks for the positivity! I appreciate you!

@justinrun100 3 ай бұрын

This album one those releases that have several different reissues. I have the UHQR, the OJC, and I have Bill Evans Riverside box set from Analogue Productions did. The UHQR, my go to now

@VinylLatte 3 ай бұрын

Very true. It would be nice to see the UHQR process on lesser available pressings. It makes me wonder what the back story is regarding these releases. It was announced that these two titles were to be the launch titles for UHQR when Analogue Productions acquired the brand. But that never happened. Perhaps there was a license hold up, and Chad finally was able to release them. I have no idea, just speculating. Anyway, how do you compare this with the Riverside? I heard some folks say it's really close. What is it about the UHQR that makes this your go-to?

@justinrun100 3 ай бұрын

⁠@@VinylLatteUHQR is what you said , the piano is in the background, but the box set, the piano is more forward like in the OJC, but the sound stage is wider, which I think is due to the box’s being double 45. But the box price of 900 dollars might seem not realistic to most people, but if you want Bill Evans whole Riverside catalog, it prices out cheaper than the UHQR. The noise floor is almost the same between Box set and UHQR

@VinylLatte 3 ай бұрын

Thanks! 💪

@aa5az423 3 ай бұрын

I have both and I love both. I agree with you.

@VinylLatte 3 ай бұрын

Thanks mate!

@TBNTX 3 ай бұрын

I've visited QRP and AS a couple times. It's found in Salina, KS, about two hours up the road. The folks are great, and was able to view new pressings being made. It's a class act.

@VinylLatte 3 ай бұрын

I bet that was amazing! I’d love to tour their place someday. Were you able to tour the church too?

@jazzmanic007 3 ай бұрын

Good Review... Well we know what we would get from Chad, only the best. I have a BS Techniques(Ortofon Blue CRT), EQ and Klypsch "the fives". I compared an 83 OJC, RE OJC, and an Original. All village van. Even with my humble set up you can hear the grandeur of the UHQR. Every frequency is just vivid and up. When its time for Scott you get full granular Scott, its like time traveling back via sound. Its hard to believe this is a live recording, its really clean. The UHQR is very close to the original(RE 70's), but summer time in comparison. To my ears anyway..

@VinylLatte 3 ай бұрын

Thank you! It is amazing to think that was a live recording and wasn’t done in a studio. The amount of detail from the album is incredible. They really did a fantastic job with both releases.

@Pflege_Fall1971 2 ай бұрын

Hi, very detailed explanation, it is precisely this distinction that makes it so difficult for the "ordinary listener", i.e. me for example. A qualitatively "better" pressing makes you doubt whether it is still the music in its authenticity or whether it has been changed by technical means so that it sounds excellent but is no longer what a viewer in the audience hears. Thank you for the detailed, differentiated opinion.

@VinylLatte 2 ай бұрын

You're welcome! I understand your concern about maintaining the authenticity of the music. It's always a delicate balance between preserving the original sound and enhancing the listening experience through better mastering and pressing techniques. Ultimately, it's about finding that sweet spot where the technical improvements serve to bring out the best in the music without altering its essence. Enjoy the journey of discovering what sounds best to you!

@RickRuizAudio 3 ай бұрын

Very cool. I have to get that UHQR now 👍

@VinylLatte 3 ай бұрын

Thank you! You can still grab them at the “regular price” at Acoustic Sounds. I hope you enjoy it!

@d.n.a5415 2 ай бұрын

Is the UHQR better = YES Is it $110 better = NO

@VinylLatte 2 ай бұрын

With this particular release, I would be lying if I said I didn't feel the same. Most of us can't afford to pay hundreds of dollars for a record, regardless of how good it sounds. There are a lot of great albums out there that don't cost a small fortune, and someone could build out a nice jazz curation that includes several OJC and/or Acoustic Sound Series records for the same price.

@AlanSenzaki 29 күн бұрын

ojc/craft!!

@jeffbellin8224 2 ай бұрын

When you say that the OJC emphasizes Evans' piano, it's not necessarily a good thing. Evans' trio was a true ensemble group, each player contributing equally, as opposed to having a main player with the other two being supporting contributors. One of the extraordinary achievements of the MoFi OneStep of SATVV is that it truly showed all three players as equal partners, something that the AP 45 done by Steve Hoffman and Kevin Gray doesn't do nearly to the same degree. The MoFi OneStep is a relevation. I haven't heard either of the two versions of the album being considered here, but I'd want whichever does a better job showing the three players as an equal trio.

@VinylLatte 2 ай бұрын

Fair point ✅

@rambojohn763 2 ай бұрын

I read it and I don't believe it. everything has its price. you can buy a Rolex for $80,000 and a Casio watch for $100. all will show the same time. for someone who wants beautiful packaging and a de lux edition, they will pay $150. he has a Rolex in a beautiful box. you can also buy a casio that is wrapped in paper. ojc plays well, uhqr good + + but you also have all the details of the process and a beautiful box. In 20 years, when AP will no longer exist, you will be able to show your grandchildren how beautifully they used to release records and take care of the art of the whole. they treated music lovers very seriously. nowadays hifi companies don't do this. they produce things that cost a lot and don't play like good vintage ones. they sell cables for millions and people believe it instead of reaching for a good edition. everything you hear is included there.

@chrismess9 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for the thoughtful review. It could have been much shorter in length as you seemed to say basically the same thing 3 or 4 times. Is there some minimum length of time you are shooting for on a You Tune video to increase monetary compensation?

@VinylLatte 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for your thoughtful comment. No sir.

@michaelgreene5703 3 ай бұрын

i heard chads clarity vinyl is hit or miss for quietness anyways

@VinylLatte 3 ай бұрын

I’ve heard the same too. Personally, I’ve been genuinely happy with UHQR pressings.

@jaycoleman8062 2 ай бұрын

I'm more a rock guy but i don't really get all the reissues. Aqualung, definitely. But how many versions of Gaucho can you have? My $8.00 original RL sounds great as it is. All the colored vinyl and multiple pressing seems a money grab to me. Just my 2 cents.

@VinylLatte 2 ай бұрын

I hear you on the abundance of reissues. Some classics like "Aqualung" definitely warrant it, but I get the skepticism around others. I'd love to see Analogue Productions use the UHQR format to press lesser available albums that haven't received the time or attention as others. For "Gaucho," if your $8.00 original RL sounds great, that's awesome! The market for colored vinyl and multiple pressings does seem driven by collectors and audiophiles looking for specific qualities or just the novelty. It's all about personal preference and what you value in your listening experience. Thanks for sharing your perspective!

@lipete1000 2 ай бұрын

Have you listened to the 😊UHQR pressing of Gaucho on a good system? It's incredible

@VinylLatte 2 ай бұрын

@@lipete1000Gaucho and Aja 🤌

@jaycoleman8062 2 ай бұрын

I like SD but only have one album of theirs, which definitely is a good one.

@ralex3697 3 ай бұрын

Obviously the UHQR would be superior.

@VinylLatte 3 ай бұрын

Watch the review 😉

@jt-hn6ur 2 ай бұрын

So the OJC is equal if not better. The UHQR are a total rip off! $150 for one record and it doesn't sound better? No Thanks. There is no reason these should cost so much, its a total money grab. Clarity vinyl actually costs less than black vinyl. Last time I checked quiet is quiet. I have tons of records that were cheap that have a very quiet noise floor. There is no such thing as quieter than quiet. If you want to buy a big box noone wants for $115 than go ahead.

@VinylLatte 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I totally understand where you're coming from. It's important to note that the UHQR and the OJC offer different listening experiences, which might appeal to different preferences. The OJC does a fantastic job of highlighting Bill's piano with crisp, bright details, while the UHQR provides a more immersive experience, bringing out the entire ensemble and even the presence of the audience. It's really about what you prefer in your listening experience-whether it's a richer overall sound or a focus on the piano with more intricate detail. Both versions have their merits!

@jt-hn6ur 2 ай бұрын

@@VinylLatte Only problem one is over a$100 more. That is insane. There is no reason for the UHQR to cost so much.

@curtist358 2 ай бұрын

Chad sells a lot of snake oil.

@VinylLatte 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I don’t see Chad selling snake oil; the releases from his labels are some of the best out there for those albums. I view Chad as a very talented hype man who knows how to boost his brand and get people to buy. And when you’re as good as Chad, you can drive up the cost because people will pay. At the end of the day, Chad is in sales, and his main job is to promote his products. The big thing he has going for him is that his products are top-notch. Whether they’re worth the asking price is a different discussion.

@jt-hn6ur 2 ай бұрын

@@VinylLatte You are so far up Chads Back side its not even funny. Alot of people think his releases are good but not the best out there. I sold a few records I bought from him because they didn't sound as good as the original that costs less. Chad so talented he can charge what he wants? Good luck with that. I guess as long as he has people like you pushing the FOMO he might even think that. You are part of the problem . With your videos pushing the FOMO are terrrible. I thought I was done with you but you had to reply to a comment made a week ago. The comment was to me not you. But you couldn't help yourself.

@nospam-hn7xm 2 ай бұрын

I don't understand videos like this one. After watching the video, I know nothing more than what I knew before watching it as to which version I might like better. Why not play a few clips to compare and contrast? It all boils down to the old axiom, "Don't tell me, show me."

@VinylLatte 2 ай бұрын

I kinda go deep into the differences between the two, perhaps you missed it? 🤷‍♂️

@nospam-hn7xm 2 ай бұрын

@@VinylLatte No, I didn't miss what you "said." And I understand one cannot expect to hear over KZbin the variations he might expect to hear "in person." But for me, something--an audible comparison of some kind--would have been better than nothing. You compared a fuji apple to a McIntosh apple. Having tasted neither, I still wouldn't know the difference for myself.

@VinylLatte 2 ай бұрын

I appreciate your feedback! I totally understand the desire for a more tangible comparison. I'll keep that in mind for future videos!

@VinylLatte Ай бұрын

@@nospam-hn7xm I’m putting together a review of LA Women. Keep an eye out… I’m gonna try something you may enjoy 😉

@nospam-hn7xm Ай бұрын

@@VinylLatte Thank you. That's very thoughtful of you! I look forward to it.

@orangemargin2481 3 ай бұрын

The narration sounds like it was generated with some AI software ver 0.1

@VinylLatte 3 ай бұрын

Be nice. 👍

@ZacharySimkins-q7d 26 күн бұрын

Ashley Rest

@VinylLatte 25 күн бұрын

🤷‍♂️

@doubled7330 3 ай бұрын

Buy neither.... the Japanese '70 or '75 pressings are better than both.

@VinylLatte 3 ай бұрын

Can never go wrong with Japanese pressings!

@peterlaffey6328 2 ай бұрын

There's bad sounding Japanese pressings out there . They also sound too bright in most cases . The actual quality of the vinyl is usually top notch though .

@VinylLatte 2 ай бұрын

Great call out, Peter. Personally, I found that records in the 70's tend to be more on the brighter side to begin with. Definitely one to do research on.

@rambojohn763 2 ай бұрын

Never. Is big mit japan presung. I have a lot and is not verry good like people fing