Bad Gear - Move (to Trash???)

[@AudioPilz]

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[@Rustik1722]

REALLY WANT A HARDCORE DOUBLE TEAM COMPARISON WITH THE CIRCUIT.

[@cainmac_]

Funny as hell... Live user since 3 here... I just never liked push that much... I might give this a whorl.

[@Rustik1722]

@@cainmac_ same

[@cchoge]

I have a yet-to-open Move sitting in front of me right now. This is my shortest buy-to-bad-gear experience ever.

[@AudioPilz]

I found it to be a very fun instrument!

[@mikewatkinson1996]

My shortest was last week when my Minilogue XD came in the mail about 6 mins before the Bad Gear episode uploaded. It was bizarre, but amazing.

[@owRekssjfjxjxuurrpqpqss]

Why not just use the app? It’s more powerful lmao. Baffling that the move has a 4 track limit while the iOS app doesnt. You can just use a small midi controller plus your phone and you have the move but smaller and more powerful. I was excited for the idea of move but disappointed that it’s just a one way editor, not a proper version of ableton like Push 3

[@baked88]

Received mine on Wednesday 😂 (also own not one, but *three* novation circuits already) 🤡 All hail Bad Gear, in every sense 🙌🏼❤️

[@pablowentscobar]

And it's to new and there's to many awailable to get the "Bad Gear price bump"

[@hut48]

Yesssssss, you made my "we have circuit at home"/Move comment into a meme 😂😂😂😂 My life is now complete 😂

[@infn8loopmusic]

I feel personally attacked 🤣 "circuit at home" is staring at me right now.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you for that one!!! Great stuff!

[@LiftedNoise]

I didn't even have to work for my PHD and made it on BAD GEAR! What an honor 😎🙏

[@Osckii]

When you make it they will be signs. Good shit boy

[@AudioPilz]

😀

[@PWMaarten]

The most impressive thing about Florian is that he learns a lot of gear with loads of features/menus and can do a jam on them. I have mostly vintage gear. Partly because I’m a snob but mostly because I’m thick as a bowl of oatmeal. Edit: that last track was awesome!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@djshire1984]

Using the Borderlands movie for Bad Gear is a perfect choice.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@marcbrasse747]

You forgot one very important option: Seventies Barbie doll collectors can use it to stage their own exclusive Saturday Night Fever party on. 🤣

[@AudioPilz]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@pirateradioFPV]

You can take a girl out of trailer park but you can't trailer park usb the girl midi!

[@AudioPilz]

lol

[@Jason75913]

wat lo

[@G.GordonMidi]

This deserves a pin 📌

[@apeman939]

The fuck

[@GreenShark4]

right on man

[@michael7018]

You nailed it with “have yet to come about a groove box that can arrange a song as seamlessly as Move” I agree and that’s why I love it. Tried OP-1, Elektron Samples, Polyend Play as a couch and on the go unit away from my studio and sold them all. The Move is staying I just love it.

[@BeepsAndBeats]

It’s one of the best instruments I’ve played in a while, and I’ve tried them all. The sensitivity of all the knobs and pads just feel so nice. It also super fun to use, while being affordable for nearly everyone.

[@BeepsAndBeats]

@@RollrightKnights okay lmao

[@vedabou]

What about the Sonicware SmplTrek?

[@mizuko6132]

I liked my op1 but I could never get it to work with Ableton. And it honestly feels cheaply made. The Headphone jack has been broken. And I can’t get a replacement for it. I don’t think I can now that they’ve moved on from it.

[@AudioPilz]

Yeah, DAW integration is the USP here

[@salvodazes]

I am not a music elitist but this is one of the 3 or so Move videos by someone who actually can make original and interesting enough music. It has been rough out there waiting for my preorder, trying to understand the possibilities with this little device watching beatmaker after beatmaker. I am even more excited after this. Thank you for sharing.

[@majasobiech6913]

Can you recommend more good videos on this device? I like it but I am searching for a good music showcasing its abilities.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@easyneal]

The shout outs at the end. Brilliant!

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!!!

[@nietaki]

The Circuit meme at the beginning is damn perfect

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!!!

[@d4r0xx0r]

My Friday just got better - thank you yet again, Florian, for delivering your judgement!

[@AudioPilz]

Have a nice weekend!!!

[@Jason75913]

Great jams, man, and the Ableton Move seems pretty awesome, no wonder you immediately wanted one.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!! Instabuy!

[@patrikknoerr9777]

The best thing about getting older is that your hormones are under control and you don't have to buy everything that MOVEs anymore. Just stick to the classics. When in doubt, look for a decent MIDI connector at the back of the thing.

[@AudioPilz]

Lol, true!

[@artisans8521]

Or 6 as my 2500 has....

[@notreally-sf3df]

What? It's literally the opposite for more people Smart choices = Expendable income = Being able to have the freedom to get into these things. Don't blame the world for your life not working out that way. I guarantee you that many of us have more classics than you do, yet buy this.

[@demo_sphere]

I'm the opposite, screw studio gear, I just want to use my Move

[@lostreligion1313]

Completely agree, i have gone all in on Ableton and now my GAS is cured

[@DJ_Tabula_Rasa]

Me: I want Deluge. Ableton: we have Deluge at home. Deluge at home:.....

[@AudioPilz]

;)

[@notreally-sf3df]

I think the point here is that it isn't at home...

[@kierenmoore3236]

“Ableton probably: “how can we sell a device to people that make either no music or horrible music?” Well, it IS nice to receive some recognition … even just as part of someone’s angry review … ❤️🙏🏼

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks for that one! Nice!!!

[@djkanyon]

THIS

[@cyphercracker]

My lifeline is making horrible music. Pays the bills!

[@DankePlace]

This coming from someone who has no music posted, Ableton knows their demographic really well then, you.

[@mikegeary8056]

@@DankePlacethat one hit home huh?

[@helisoma]

Can we please have a round of applause for that finale jam? Woah. I'm surprised this worked better than it seems you expected. Still not my style of music-making but very cool little box....makes the Waldorf Rocket look massive 😲. Thanks for the great shout-out....one of my favorite shout-out sessions overall...some great sound varieties 👽👾🤖

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@inversion66]

In Canada you have to order it directly from Ableton, so no try before you buy. At least it's shipped from their warehouse in Ontario, which means no import fees and not having to deal with foreign shipping if it has a problem.

[@unclemick-synths]

That's really important. I don't buy anything electronic from abroad that I couldn't handle losing the money.

[@AudioPilz]

👍👍👍

[@DeKoepi]

I stay with my "we have circuit tracks at home" for now :D was fun to watch, thank you!

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks!!!

[@e-conrecords4665]

Already!! 😂 I don’t really think of it as 4 tracks due to the drum tracks. It’s more a multitrack environment with 4 buses.

[@AudioPilz]

That sums it up nicely!

[@realmchat6665]

Lol great as always, and you have the best patreon callouts I have ever heard hands down

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@raymondo1021]

Love the "vocoder" shoutout . 😹Great stuff as always 😼👍

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@Blogspierre]

Unquantized recording is possible. Just DON’T HIT QUANTIZE. There is no auto quantize. You have to command it.

[@blackcowboymusic]

Not even a MONTH and it's on here?? 🤣 yeah this feels personal

[@AudioPilz]

It totally is;)

[@NoiseCommander3DS]

I finally bought that zoom multistomp pedal you're using all the time. The ms-70 CDR. Not super interested in the move. Yet. Sorry for dumping that randomly to your comment 😅

[@F_letc.h]

To be fair, even stuff he likes ends up on here eventually.

[@Missing-manual]

I was waiting with Move until the Bad Gear treatment. Seeing comments I expected you would persuade me to skip Move, but if anything you encouraged me even more. Not sure if it was the device, the moment of inspiration or both but I must notice all three jams were impeccable today (usually I’m happy with 1/3) and match the sonic spectrum I’m looking for. Vielen Dank!

[@AudioPilz]

Danke auch dir!

[@007ifyable]

Is this the shortest amount of time between a product's release date and it being featured on Bad Gear?

[@AudioPilz]

I think Tracker Mini was only one week

[@Drrolfski]

@@AudioPilz Digitakt 2 wasn't too far off either

[@mrz80]

An equally interesting statistic is length of time between release and when they start showing up used on Reverb. I think Gaia 2 holds the crown in that category. 😀

[@marklholloway]

It’s been said after Ableton’s layoffs Move had very little development the last 2 years. The developers had many of the missing features on the roadmap but Ableton needed the remaining employees to focus on Push 3 and so Ableton released an unfinished Move. Time will tell if they prioritize additional development for Move or leave the feature gaps intact.

[@tristancaver4836]

We should get an Ableton sponsored ping pong tournament where the winner takes home a framed picture of Cenk pointing at a Move with a thumbs up.

[@AudioPilz]

😂

[@401dB]

Humor is next level, never disappoints!

[@ThatSockmonkey]

Having just learned that my Maschine 2 is about to have software support dropped by NI, I don't think I'll ever buy a software dependant thingy again. So no, Ableton, I do not want your Moosh

[@klinkske]

Smart move. I quit buying stuff that works with computers long ago and also don’t t update it if it works. Because it will be obsolete if you do sooner or later

[@marcus268]

I am also super annoyed by the Ni Maschine support drop, its just a controller for the Software, i dont see any reason for it, why not let it continue to run as controller. Now they made basically waste out of it.

[@Jason75913]

Damn, that sucks. No worries here though, I'm on a Mk3. Something I want to do later is have backup installers for my NI software. Native Access downloads the installers and deletes them later, should be recoverable via Undelete type tools, or if I copy the files at the right moment.

[@envo]

On the other hand, Ableton still support every damned controller from the past 20+ years, including the first Push. Also, the design of the Move is quite good, at least it looks like upgrade-able. I'm only concerned about the microSD card's lifespan.

[@ThatSockmonkey]

@@envo yeah, good point. And funnily enough, I have an apc40, which is imo the perfect Ableton live looping/clip based controller. It was a bugger to map to Mixbus 8 on Linux lol.

[@Romenet310]

The real question here is why does the push 3 not use the cloud for saves? Saving projects back to live should be easier.

[@Blogspierre]

I’ve been using it for 2 weeks and I’m in love.

[@AudioPilz]

❤️❤️❤️

[@majorchutzpah7265]

​@AudioPilz I'm making beats again!

[@Jam_Bon]

Got mine today. Also in love haha

[@PLA.net-DANTE]

Hey do you know if the samples that are recorded stay in stereo?

[@Strepite]

It definitely ticks all the "I'll buy it and never use it" boxes.

[@AudioPilz]

Lol, shots fired;)

[@shin_do]

I find the ideea pretty well thought out in a commercial segmentation approach, getting the casual people to move to hardware could be a win for them... (not bad gear imo)

[@AudioPilz]

Interesting take on the subject, thanks for posting!

[@shin_do]

@@AudioPilz thanks for making me insta buy a korg 707 back when you reviewed it, i just fell in love with iit's "megadrive" rough sounding engine...

[@Oblivinatti]

I'm tired of Ableton releasing unfinished hardware, but at the same time I love this thing and cant wait to see how it develops

[@AudioPilz]

It actually works;)

[@Oblivinatti]

@@AudioPilz it's definitely got some hidden features if you look below the sequencer, there's buttons that don't light up yet ;)

[@PopLife]

I love the limitations and is why I went out and bought Move. I am loving making music on this thing.

[@AudioPilz]

Nice!!!

[@mcpu40]

did you actually go out and buy it? that's a rarity

[@valdir7426]

assuming I'd want something like this I really dislike the fact you can't edit the synths other than through the 8 macros that comes with the presets. as a sampler it seems quite all right. but I get the appeal and from what I've seen the UI is pretty well thought out.

[@PopLife]

@@mcpu40 Yep, I've been playing with it a couple of days. I was attracted to the limitations and that I could take this to a coffee shop and just work something up with what is onboard. I get that it has many limitations and I would never buy this to do full productions, but as a demo making machine it excels and forces you to work with what you got in front of you. Not for everyone, that is for sure. I already have the Push 2 and for full on production work. I realize this is more of a luxury item.

[@franktriton6874]

It’s like a Novation LaunchControl in steroids

[@cyshtoph]

When used as strictly standalone, it feels like they took two Verselabs, cut them in half, picked the worst halves and glued them together.

[@soundwithoutsoundbutwithso7884]

Any half of the Verselab is the worst half.

[@magnuseriksson8081]

@@soundwithoutsoundbutwithso7884 You got one??

[@tamthetamtam]

3:46 is the most Elektron chad thing ever We don’t need undo buttons, but we’ve all lost songs or patterns we spent hours on because of a missclick

[@shinyless]

Got a notification about this episode as I was watching an older one, while trying out my Digitakt 2 :P

[@AudioPilz]

Nice!!!

[@gregfromthevaley]

Your music is on a next level!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!!

[@samprock]

That’s my first piece of gear glorified at AudioPilz! I made right MOVE finally! 😂

[@AudioPilz]

Nice!!!

[@samprock]

Phunn aside, you also made the best and clearest Move overview, Florian! ❤

[@beatsbyjiro8291]

I was going to sell mine but you convicned me to keep it. Thanks mate.

[@harveytherobot]

Whoa, how long have you had it?

[@beatsbyjiro8291]

@@harveytherobot I was doom scrolling youtube at 1AM and saw it got released and bought it right then from sweetwater. Its really cool I just dont know how often ill use it on the go, and it motivated me to just go pick up a used Push2 for $320 instead for an Ableton controller 😂

[@AudioPilz]

Always a pleasure;)

[@uly1981]

happy you got to feature it before the world has forgotten about it and will never talk about it again UPDATE: one of my previous move hate quotes from reddit made it on your wall of hate, i feel so honoured 🥹

[@AudioPilz]

Nice, thank you;)

[@painlikebaneadamah_picture38]

"... RAGE-BAIT REAR-PANEL ..."

[@AudioPilz]

It totally is

[@painlikebaneadamah_picture38]

@@AudioPilz 💯 ✊️

[@TheGreatPizzaMasterpiece]

Holy shit this channel still exists!?! yes!

[@meanguitar]

The one thing I dislike about internal lithium ion battery is once the battery goes, so goes the device.

[@AudioPilz]

Sad but true!

[@6581punk]

The battery unplugs and could be replaced if you can get a new one.

[@GreenHoleSun]

It's called "planned obsolescence"...

[@morecowbell2611]

The device is highly repairable

[@meanguitar]

@@morecowbell2611 that's great news!

[@SquizbarDeAlienOfficial]

I use to pause and read the memes but we all know Weaver is going to do that for us on stream 😂

[@AudioPilz]

...and totally skip the verdict because he thought the finale was cringe...

[@SquizbarDeAlienOfficial]

@@AudioPilz 😂

[@nyeron]

Octatrack review foreshadowing 👀

[@phatplates]

I think he did that one long ago

[@AudioPilz]

;)

[@josephjfk4755]

Great video. I’m always so amazed by the quality of your jams. Do you have your music available anywhere?

[@dwsel]

Man can make music on anything 😮

[@josephjfk4755]

Patreon seems to be the answer to my question. Just subscribed!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!! Full tracks are available on Patreon

[@Bkoded]

WOW that was fast ALREADY??

[@AudioPilz]

One of the biggest music tech sh*tstorms I've ever witnessed...

[@djhumanrights]

audiopilz, the hero the world needs

[@AudioPilz]

❤️❤️❤️

[@cristhianzambrano6883]

I needed my fix of bad gear

[@AudioPilz]

Have a nice weekend!!!

[@Dubsteppah]

yes it has some limitations, but everything does. Just a niche controller that I personally love

[@amarzagorcic8857]

Why did ableton put out videos of stylish people playing ping pong when the only guy capable of explaining an octatrack is on their payrole 😂😂😂 Cenk is everything

[@AudioPilz]

The man. The legend.

[@johnvdb5015]

Wonder if it would pair well with a digitakt?

[@AudioPilz]

Yes! And a DJ Mixer

[@andresbecerra5517]

uhhhh I was WAITING for this video!!!

[@jeredorsey]

😆SOON>>>Bad Gear to the Future! 🔥🚘🔥

[@AudioPilz]

😀😀😀

[@JustPyroYT]

No friday goes without a new episode of bad gear. Happy Weekend! ❤

[@AudioPilz]

Have a great weekend!!!

[@_lukaszbugajski]

Lazy chop is what makes this machine for beatmakers. I never really used push2 for anything else. So with Move I dont have to carry push + laptop.

[@deadmanwalking6342]

But,,,But,,,but,, only 4 tracks!.... Bad Move!

[@e-conrecords4665]

It’s kind of not 4 tracks though dude. It’s a multitrack unit with 4 buses.

[@AudioPilz]

Rather nice tracks tho;)

[@VictorVanHee]

If it’s so bad, why do I love it so much 😂. Another great episode!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@Wagoo]

I like to Move It! Move It! But still got the hots for Novation Sir Cute 🕺

[@AudioPilz]

[@kierenmoore3236]

Got the hots, for what’s in the Box with the Blocks.

[@baked88]

Love the Cenk shoutout. Love the whole video ❤️

[@AudioPilz]

❤️❤️❤️Cenk❤️❤️❤️

[@nolyspe]

the unsung heroes of bad gear: waldorf rocket, tb-3, zoom multistomp, EHX compressor, and 5 or so midi boxes and other unnamed guest stars

[@nolyspe]

(almost forgot the JoMoX MBase11! I ended up buying one just because it was appearing so much)

[@GuidoGautsch]

The low-paid working band that shows up to the gig every night and is paid in stale beers

[@AudioPilz]

Digitakt!!!

[@adettler1]

Thanks!

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much for the support!!!

[@atstrollz6875]

I don't get why it's midi in or out only

[@AudioPilz]

Neither do I...

[@Studio_4to1]

Move away, Bad Gear moved too fast. Epic, as always.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you!!!

[@valdir7426]

my plan is to wait five years and buy one used for half the price or less as a midi controller. I like the idea of a push but small (a non standalone push that is; it's getting confusing). If I ever get a groovebox/sequencer polyend play and oxi one exist. totally agree on principle that tight integration is really what we need; and I'd also welcome a version that can run complicated m4l patches and turn the move into an advanced sequencer (ala oxi one), that you could also use directly in ableton.

[@TheChameleon2008]

5 years? Think it will be half next year or so

[@AudioPilz]

Sounds like a plan;)

[@flashchrome]

I wonder how many get the reference at 01:52 (Lights!)

[@AudioPilz]

Trekies unite!!!

[@djkanyon]

4 tracks... no jack\pin midi out.... you know what kind of a product used to have this specs? Volca Sample in 2014. But i gotta say... i'm SO gonna buy it for 350 next year!

[@AudioPilz]

Volca Sample had 10 voices;)

[@djkanyon]

@@AudioPilz shhhh there's always Ableton forum cultists lurking around.... the wall have ears....

[@kleinkourtney]

Omg! HAHA! I am so happy to find this channel.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!! Stick around!

[@SmallWorldBigThings]

Bad gear. Definitely you should buy Deluge - it is now available to buy from a few retailers in Europe.

[@AudioPilz]

Great suggestion, thank you!!!

[@ouatedephoque]

5:47 Yeaaah ! Listenbourg mentionned !!! 🥳🥳

[@adelegallardoaragon1462]

I f*cking saw this coming from a mile away when Move was announced

[@BeepsAndBeats]

Yes because he’s torched everything that’s already out lmao

[@DarkSunGwyn]

well done dude! I'd have never guessed he would make a video about the move

[@RollrightKnights]

You and everyone else 👍

[@adelegallardoaragon1462]

@@RollrightKnights we all did 😂😂😂

[@AudioPilz]

Straight to Bad Gear!!!

[@Omriy92]

How do you connect it to the synth? Is there a specific usb to midi box/splitter? If so, I would love to know exactly which one please :) tnx for cool vid

[@AudioPilz]

I was using a Retrokits RK-006 here

[@Omriy92]

@@AudioPilz Thanks a lot!

[@nrosko]

I love my Move.

[@AudioPilz]

👍👍👍

[@cesarvalerio4292]

Great vídeo as usual áudio pilz, greetings from brasil

[@AudioPilz]

Obrigado!!!❤️

[@karate9957]

Let's be real no one can explain the Octatrak.

[@AudioPilz]

Cenk totally can!

[@GUNJACKOFFICIAL]

Laughed out loud at the Borderlands opener!!!

[@AudioPilz]

Thanks, Mr. Gun!

[@effext1]

My guess for next weeks Bad Gear…….Digitone 2.

[@AudioPilz]

Should I?;)

[@SLBD0000000]

… or Tonverk, we’re in a post truth world after all

[@controlvertextv]

I would love to see a bad gear special “Good gear” because I always wonder what does AudioPilz consider good gear if everything is bad.

[@AudioPilz]

Great suggestion, thank you!!!

[@andywalkswithme9550]

This is the first video about the Move that made me actually want to buy it.

[@AudioPilz]

Happy to hear that!!! Thanks!!!

[@mcpu40]

is it also the only one?

[@krazywabbit]

I moved down here to say good job and tripped on the like button on the way out

[@AudioPilz]

❤️❤️❤️

[@FredBloggs919]

Dust magnet in 3…2…1…

[@AudioPilz]

Shots fired;)

[@64north20west]

this seems to be one of those machines that you love to hate but can actually make decent music.

[@AudioPilz]

That sums it up nicely!

[@ThePsychoghost]

Lol I mean... To each it's own.. I'm not the target demo so I'll "move" away from it lol

[@AudioPilz]

;)

[@fauno-holoperma8261]

im so anxious for that upcomming Octatrack Halloween special!!!!!!

[@AudioPilz]

Almost;)

[@fauno-holoperma8261]

@@AudioPilz oh noo.. so Octatrack christmas?

[@nielsjanssens3685]

Oh god, this has been a bad season to have GAS 😢

[@AudioPilz]

I feel you!

[@djkanyon]

Korg, Ableton, Novation, Electron.... damn you Christmas season!!!

[@treetopjones737]

Do not watch videos on the new Korg Multi Poly.

[@johnwellingtonwells7639]

Very fair as always. I couldn't resit getting one and generally I'm enjoying it. I've never used Ableton and have no interest in connecting this to a computer, however I do want to use it with my MPC one and the crap MIDI is a real let down. I'm hoping they sort this out asap as it sounds great and sits well with the rest of my toys. Keep up the good work.

[@AudioPilz]

Thank you so much!!! Funnily enough, it really shines when combined with Live

[@crapweasel17]

Latest "direct-to-Bad=Gear" offering. Should have called it the Bad Move! (Please don't torch my Digitone II before it even arrives.)

[@AudioPilz]

Lol

[@PLA.net-DANTE]

Are the samples that are recorded stay in stereo?

[@AudioPilz]

Yesssss

[@kozihoppy]

Still hoping Ableton will one day amaze us like they did with the Push 2. One day...

[@AudioPilz]

They did?;)

[@Pablo668]

I really do wonder how you remember all of your lines. Whiteboard in front of you? Great review as always.

[@AudioPilz]

There are some re-takes involved;)

[@smoketoad]

This thing might be a modern classic with the right support.

[@AudioPilz]

Agreed!!!

[@guysmiley7289]

THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS!

[@mrz80]

(*does Vulcan salute*) How many fingers am I holding up? 😀

[@AudioPilz]

Engage!

[@ralog_]

Lately companies have been releasing products that look like they were made to meet deadlines

[@Jason75913]

Bad corporate politics/culture. Release stuff half-baked, finish it post-release with updates. They probably gauge how much they need to do based on customer feedback, using us all as beta testers and to see what they can get away with in terms of what features and things to skimp out on, potentially saving money in the process. Or so I speculate.

[@AudioPilz]

That's how it works at the moment

[@erlannderrantem6972]

was that footage from the Diablo animated shortfilm?

[@AudioPilz]

Some cutscenes from D3

[@hillamplification4855]

You'll MOVE on once you see the price tag.

[@AudioPilz]

lol

[@RootinrPootine]

When people complain about it you point out the price tag, then they do this cool move where they pretend it’s actually high

[@inversion66]

@@RootinrPootine 600 Canadian bucks, which makes it 21 bucks more expensive before taxes than Circuit Tracks/Circuit Rhythm, and 150 bucks cheaper before taxes than the Roland MC101. I'd say those are the closest comparable instruments right now.

[@Jam_Bon]

terrible pun and actually very incorrect haha

[@The_artist_called_The_Engineer]

Interesting. Which begs the question, I use reaper is live better?

[@AudioPilz]

I use them both