Audioquest Cable Review! Featuring the Type 4, Rocket 33, Rocket 44

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Zero Fidelity

Zero Fidelity

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@dudemastermaster8944
@dudemastermaster8944 2 жыл бұрын
I got the Rocket 33 due to your advice, and can confirm your thoughts. Might not be for everyone due to its warm characteristic and therefore smoothened out tone, but it’s very organic sounding especially compared to my former silver plated cable, that was way more foreword sounding, so I like it. Thanks
@ruphobic
@ruphobic 6 жыл бұрын
Wanna say thank you Shaun (hope it's spelt correctly) for making this review as it had influenced my purchase of the Rocket 44 recently as home auditions are rare locally here
@SamsonSlayer
@SamsonSlayer 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I really appreciate you taking the time to go through these different cables.
@TNPFan
@TNPFan 5 жыл бұрын
Been into audio and stereo gear since the mid 1980s and have been through a few cables and interconnects in my day. I was explaining to my non-audiophile wife the “do cables make a difference” debate and her response was, “I’m not a stereo nerd like you and even I can hear a difference”. Debate closed. 😁
@mechantl0up
@mechantl0up 3 жыл бұрын
I nor my wife have observed any sonic difference between cables even though we have been listening to music for quite some time. Some cables do look prettier than others, though, for which reason one sometimes prefers an after market accessory over a freebie. And that is all there is to it. Keep the BS radar activated when buyng audio gear, listening to its beeps, and save yourself a big buck.
@stormsdarwin8767
@stormsdarwin8767 5 жыл бұрын
The best way to determine whether or not cables make an audible difference is by blind testing. Seeing which cable is playing opens people up to confirmation bias.
@60zeller
@60zeller 5 жыл бұрын
Storms Darwin , you can say that about all audio gear.
@shaolin95
@shaolin95 2 жыл бұрын
these "believers" will NEVER accept a blind test..sad but true
@AT-wl9yq
@AT-wl9yq 2 жыл бұрын
@@shaolin95 I do blind tests all the time. A lot of us do, but no one bothers to ask. But what I find most interesting are people that claim they can't hear a difference. In most cases they can but won't admit to it. And here's how if found out. I set up a cable demo to AB 2 pairs of interconnects. When I do the demo for cable deniers, they always say they can't hear a difference. After that, I ask them if they can hear differences between other components like amps and preamps. Their answer is almost always yes, they have no problem hearing differences. So at that point, I go over the equipment and set up to do an AB between 2 amps. After that demo, they could easily tell the difference between the 2 amps. What I didn't tell them is I just made it look like I was setting the amps up for the demo. In reality, I didn't change a thing, and played the same exact cable demo over again. Now they can tell you exactly what the differences are between the 2 cables. Why do they lie? I can't say. It must be some type of emotional thing where they just don't want to admit it.
@ElectoneGuy
@ElectoneGuy 7 жыл бұрын
Cable resistance is the most important factor. Just use the proper gauge of wire for your particular speaker distance.
@AppendixVermiformis
@AppendixVermiformis 7 жыл бұрын
This. And speaker impedance.
@antigen4
@antigen4 6 жыл бұрын
and capacitance - and lots of other factors that aren't so easy to put into numbers ...
@westelaudio943
@westelaudio943 6 жыл бұрын
@@antigen4 The capacitance is far too low to affect the audible frequency range. The other factors are confirmation bias.
@antigen4
@antigen4 6 жыл бұрын
my point is simply that simply because you might not be able to measure it with crude tools does not mean it's not there ... don't forget we are still very much in the stone age of electronics still ... pretty much the only tools we have are means of measuring voltage over time and resistance
@antigen4
@antigen4 6 жыл бұрын
there are even aspects we know about but do not know how to measure like 'reactance' - how components dynamically interact with each other to cause audible effects ... op amp stabilty with different loads blah blah blah
@louiesipes2257
@louiesipes2257 4 жыл бұрын
Blue Jean Cable has never let me down. That coming from Audioquest cables.
@HypnotizedAwake
@HypnotizedAwake 4 жыл бұрын
What is the sonic difference would you say? I think AQ leans more detail oriented.
@ericshutter5305
@ericshutter5305 4 жыл бұрын
same for me... AQ has zero more detail... just more bling bling price ...
@louiesipes2257
@louiesipes2257 4 жыл бұрын
@@ericshutter5305 Same, more money no difference, JMO
@louiesipes2257
@louiesipes2257 4 жыл бұрын
@@HypnotizedAwake I never heard it. Now is it better than cheap unshielded?, yes in my opinion.
@jarekharmening8993
@jarekharmening8993 3 жыл бұрын
@@HypnotizedAwake I have Blue Jeans and Rocket 33. The 33 is about half a step to a step more laid back and more neutral, with more detail. A thinner sounding signature. The Blue Jeans is warmer, thicker sounding, a half-step/step more forward, and not as detailed. Running on Audio Monitor Silver 5i, I like the Rocket 33 more.
@briand2507
@briand2507 5 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks! Have a pair of 33s on the way. I've had a variety of gear over the years and am still surprised at how speaker and power cables are dismissed by so many. You don't have to spend 1000's to make reasonable upgrades to your system, but if you don't try something, how would you know?
@simplereef4854
@simplereef4854 6 жыл бұрын
Cannot agree more with your video. I just ordered Audioquest Type 4 cable for my system, and I could immediately see an improvement that it makes to my music. The treble is sweeter and the bass is tighter than ever before. The cable does make my LS50 sound sweeter and more enjoyable than before; I believe that is due to the extreme purity of copper material and shielded jacket. Overall, very good cable and affordable price for what it worth. My system is : NAD DAC -> Yamaha as 3000 -> Kef LS50.
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120
@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sean I always thought cables were snake oil until I took a chance on your advice now I'm 700 bucks into audioquest cables and power cords and I couldn't be happier just can't believe I missed out as long as I did great build and sound quality
@sky_004
@sky_004 8 жыл бұрын
Nice job! I personally use the GO-4, which is an awesome alternative to the Rocket 44. Very tight, very lively sound. Awesome in small rooms with bass problems. : )
@ZeroFidelity
@ZeroFidelity 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sky! :)
@williamfong5408
@williamfong5408 8 жыл бұрын
I like the video. Hope you'll do more cable reviews in the near future.
@ZeroFidelity
@ZeroFidelity 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks William. Part 2 of this video will be coming out in the near future. Gotta whole bunch of AQ analog interconnects to riff about.
@travisbishop7212
@travisbishop7212 5 жыл бұрын
I remember reading a Stereophile article one time where a friend of a guy from Wilson audio secretly switched some crazy money cables for some joe blow dime store cables at a CES show over the noon hour lunch break , everyone came back for the afternoon session and nobody new the difference ,at the end of the show the guy revealed what he had done and there were a lot of pissed off people lmfao 🤣 The second you know the brand your mind automatically is biased one way or the other! I’d be willing to bet my life you couldn’t pick what cable was which consistently say 6/10 times in a blind test.or even 4 times for that matter.. But regardless I do believe different cables can make minuscule differences, just not nearly enough to justify spending thousands and not nearly enough that someone would notice “Hey ! Who switched my cables 😂 But anyway I like your vids and keep up the quality programming ✌🏻
@audioeeze8396
@audioeeze8396 4 жыл бұрын
You will never really know until you buy some cables and try it yourself.
@LorenzoNW
@LorenzoNW 4 жыл бұрын
1) You’re speculating based on YOUR OWN BIASES. Go listen to some high-end cables from Audience or High Fidelity Cables in a high-end system in a room with good acoustics. Then listen to the same system with cheap cables. If you don’t hear a SIGNIFICANT improvement from the better cables, I’ll respect your opinion. Until then, you’re just blowing smoke out of your ass. 2) Were the people at the CES show critically or casually listening before lunch and for how long? And what were the room acoustics and power conditioning like in the Wilson room. Both are generally notoriously bad at CES shows. You’re not providing enough information to assess what really went on.
@allansh828
@allansh828 4 жыл бұрын
Travis Bishop 1) show booth isn’t ideal for demo Hi-Fi systems 2) people need to be very familiar with the specific sound system setup to notice the cables are swapped. If you don’t know how it should sound like, how could you know something’s swapped? 3) sound quality can be affected by temperature, humidity, warm-up time, EMI. A perfect scientific AB test is near impossible outside laboratory.
@geoffreywelsby7434
@geoffreywelsby7434 8 жыл бұрын
the review was just what we needed.. could you do some more on different types of cables please..
@ramencurry6672
@ramencurry6672 3 жыл бұрын
I own an Audioquest cable. It was less than a $100. I like the light thin quality to it. Good product
@ricksanchezz8130
@ricksanchezz8130 7 жыл бұрын
Those cables make a difference in your mind, if you believe is sounds better it does lol.
@2ChannelAudio
@2ChannelAudio 3 жыл бұрын
Love the intro given by you :)
@TechnoDad
@TechnoDad 7 жыл бұрын
Great video! I have a Denon X6300 Receiver and I'm upgrading all my speakers to the Klipsch Reference Premier series. I was wondering if these expensive cables are really worth it? I figure it's better for at least the front and center channel speakers. I watch a lot of movies and I was wondering if I would hear a difference. I have been a musician for over 30 years, I play and produce lots of music.
@fartman1510
@fartman1510 Жыл бұрын
Cables absolutely makes a tremendous difference in the sound. Starting with the power strip, power cord, rca cables. Reason being is because of various types of wires used. I have spent a tremendous about of time testing all different types of cables just experiment. In doing so, I have achieved my absolute best sound for my audio gears. Oh, and no, I did not break the bank by spending tons of $$$ on ridiculously priced cables. If you take the time to invest some time and research, you will thank yourself for so.
@mechantl0up
@mechantl0up 3 жыл бұрын
Audioquest is the most hilarious of all the big cable scammers out there. Or maybe it is Tellurium or Abyss. Who knows. they are all the same: Separating the rich stupid of some of their excess cash (which, though, does no harm to anyone, so is OK).
@2791dles
@2791dles 3 жыл бұрын
I get your sentiment, but.........I make a lot of cables for people. Canare 4S11, 4S8, Mogami, solid-core variants all terminated with proper low mass copper banana plugs and I like them all and those I've made them for are pleased. I also have a ton of these companies you call scammers and very few of my very decent cables I've made match the performance of Tellurium Q Black II, Audioquest Rocket 33, Chord Company Rumour, QED XT40, Van Den Hul D352. I could go on. Why are they better, different, more detailed??? Well my experience is that configuration, strand count, overall gauge vs strand, solid core versus multi strand, copper vs silver plated copper plus the insulation on the cable affects tonality, measurable resistance. Chord Company Odyssey has the exact same wire inside as the much more expensive Chord Epic Twin. The insulation on Epic Twin is thick, lots of covering and I've had both cable at home for extended listing and they just don't sound the same at all and that is based solely on the covering of the wire and insulation. I mean Audioquest Type 4 is 4 single solid copper conductors which is somewhat different than the majority of cable out there at moment that is comprised of tiny multistrand conductors......and yes solid core cable sounds different to multi. Of the 7 or so big brand reasonably high price cable I've got here that I use as reference points against the cable I make my self with Mogami, Canare and a few other manufacturers, all those big brand ones you'd think as scams, sound totally different to one another based on = material used as insulation, material used as conductors, configuration of conductor, gauge of conductor, measurements in resistance inductance and capacitance. The relationship between resistance, inductance and capacitance measurements alone is significant on the sound signature. Yes, Canare 4S8 is insanely cheap and will get you quite a way in performance but its well known how good Canare and Mogami are. I've tried all sorts of cheaper wire that has made my system sound very muddy, Canare and Mogami the exception rather than the rule. And in my experience Mogami/Canare don't quite get you to QED XT40 detail levels. I wish they did, as I'd sell more Canare and could charge much more! Apologies for the essay ;-)
@FJBx100
@FJBx100 3 жыл бұрын
@@2791dles Proper response to a flat-earther imbecile. Well played.
@mrpmj00
@mrpmj00 7 ай бұрын
I didn't hear an improvement with cables until I upgraded my speakers to the GoldenEar BRX with AMT tweeters and source from compressed Spotify to Apple Music lossless. My stereo setup is $11k. USB cable: I also heard an improvement with Amazon Neo, and even more with Cardas Clear. Speaker cable: I also heard an improvement with Micca 14 gauge. The WorldsBestCable (WBC) using mogami 3082 made my sound quality worse. Power Cable: I also heard an improvement with iFi SilentPower Supanova with noise cancelling. RCA cable: I heard an improvement with WorldsBestCable RCA by Mogami 2549, and even more with Cardas Parsec. Here's my video: My video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oonMm5lticl5bq8 I love the sound improvement from cables by Cardas Clear USB, Cardas Parsec RCA, WorldsBestCable RCA by Mogami 2549. Music source=Apple Music lossless quality.
@bradleysmith681
@bradleysmith681 6 жыл бұрын
For speaker cables, a recent test using all sorts of exotic cables.. Guess which one was the winner?? A pair of car jumper cables.. That's right, old jumper cables used to jump a dead battery.. And that come as no surprise because the most critical factor in speaker wiring is to limit the resistance by using larger guage conductors.. Jumper cables definitely satisfies that factor...
@IliyaOsnovikov
@IliyaOsnovikov 5 жыл бұрын
Jumper cables would cut the top end of the sound spectrum. They are too thick.
@bradleysmith681
@bradleysmith681 5 жыл бұрын
Илья Основиков no they won't. A pair of jumper cables has very low capacitance. It won't cut off the high-end at all.
@IliyaOsnovikov
@IliyaOsnovikov 5 жыл бұрын
It's not because of capacitance but due to the skin effect. However it might not cut that much because jumper cable still has plenty of copper on a wire surface.
@bradleysmith681
@bradleysmith681 5 жыл бұрын
Илья Основиков Skin effect is not truly an issue at these frequencies. And, yes, at that guagen there is plenty of copper..
@IliyaOsnovikov
@IliyaOsnovikov 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know. Skin effect calculator ( chemandy.com/calculators/skin-effect-calculator.htm ) shows that at 20 kHz a current penetration into a copper wire will be only 0.46 mm (0.018") deep from a wire surface. If, let's say, jumper cable wire is 1/4" in diameter it has total cross-section of 31.67 sq. mm and only 4.43 sq. mm of that wire will be conducting current at 20 kHz. That's only 14% but still quite a bit of copper.
@skatar01887
@skatar01887 5 жыл бұрын
Just strip them down to the bare component parts & make your own. There are plenty of how to videos of how to make your own quality cables which i do believe helps with the overall quality of sound going to your speakers, but only to a point of diminishing returns on investment. Speaking for myself i don't have the type of disposable income to spend that kind of money on cables, but i do have the time & patience to make my own.
@chasehatton3691
@chasehatton3691 2 жыл бұрын
I am listening to this video via AQ R33 running from my amp to my speakers . Already the pitch to the narrator's voice is less harsh and more rounded. Easier to listen to without a doubt. Just last week, ran this video with cheaper cables. The difference here is quite apparent. Noticeable improvement in overall sound presentation. So good in fact, the AQ R44 are on their way to me , so a comparison test is in the works. I had the Type 4 prior to the R33 in my system for 10 years or so. The step up in the range shows to my ears a dramatic increase in overall sonic qualities.
@dudemastermaster8944
@dudemastermaster8944 2 жыл бұрын
So what’s the difference between the AQ33 vs AQ44?
@nanirj8915
@nanirj8915 3 жыл бұрын
I like your Audioquest cables review. It's what I'm looking for. Could you please do the comparison of Audioquest Type 5 / Type 9 and Rocket 88 ? Thank you.
@Theburrowingid
@Theburrowingid 5 жыл бұрын
Rocket33 bi-wired really tamed my overly bright Klipsch Forte 3's and very distinctly improved sound. Paired with a Yukon RCA/RCA between the CD player and Rotel 1592 integrated my system now finally sounds hi-fi. Very pleased.
@Joldrath
@Joldrath 8 жыл бұрын
good useful videos as always. Keep up the good work.
@philipketchum1407
@philipketchum1407 4 жыл бұрын
If your cable changes the sound you have waisted your money. All good quality cables should have no sound of their own. Good quality copper and most surface area of connector with no oxidation and as short as positive. That’s it. Period!
@tigertiger1699
@tigertiger1699 3 жыл бұрын
Is that right
@veetour
@veetour 2 жыл бұрын
No. It makes things sound clearer, images more precise, bass tighter, soundstage wider and deeper, background is blacker, etc. These are the qualities of a superior cable.
@marklowe7431
@marklowe7431 5 жыл бұрын
Cables make a difference but only up to a few dollars to fix. Not 100's or 1000's. Funny that the million dollar recording studios that actually record your sources use cables that only cost a few dollars per meter. That's probably because the audio engineer is typically educated and would be sacked for even suggesting this kind of nonsense.
@LorenzoNW
@LorenzoNW 4 жыл бұрын
So tell me great know it all, what high-end cables have you actually listened to? It gets so old reading comments from people pretending to act like they know what they're talking about. BTW, more and more high-end recording studios are using high-end cables. Once they hear the difference, there's no turning back.
@clotheslinespider6976
@clotheslinespider6976 5 жыл бұрын
"Home depot" or any other budget cheapo cables are copper clad aluminum so of course theyre gonna sound shit.... And of course buying expensive cabling is gonna sound better after using alu cables...... try going from same gauge copper to same gauge copper and there is zero diff
@vicluu8026
@vicluu8026 4 жыл бұрын
that is just your opinion, not everyone's opinion. You get what you paid for. If you buy cable from Home Depot, then you will have Home Depot's quality kind of sound. If that is what you want, then go for it.
@zizendorf
@zizendorf 3 жыл бұрын
Are you fully aware of how copper clad aluminum cable actually works? Seems not. The signal will be travelling through the outer perimeter of the cable and will be carried by the copper. That aluminum "base" is merely holding the copper. Maybe not the "home depot" variety, Try these and you'll understand: GearIT Pro Series 14 AWG Gauge Speaker Wire.
@bryanp4827
@bryanp4827 5 жыл бұрын
I see an Audioquest review, i just know I'm going get my daily dose of laughter!😅😄🤣😂🤣🤣😂😅😅😄
@paulb.3227
@paulb.3227 5 жыл бұрын
Explain please
@Glock_4717
@Glock_4717 7 жыл бұрын
Great review, very helpful even though I can’t afford a cable upgrade now. Cheers.
@petermay1219
@petermay1219 7 жыл бұрын
While searching for something on the internet I came across this article. [SoundStage!]Max dB with Doug Blackburn Back Issue Article April 1999 Two Products that Will Make You Rethink What You Think You Know About Audio "Both of these products are outgrowths of Mike VansEvers’ unique approach to sound. In the 1970s, Mike was the archetypal pro-audio engineer. Wires were wires were wires and audiophiles were idiots for even trying some of the things they tried. In fact, audiophiles were a special class of idiot if they thought the things they tried actually changed the sound in any way. Then one day Mike heard something that changed his life. He heard what a wire sounds like when you put it in backwards. ....... The article continues; Since Mike first encountered the audibility of wire directionality, he has been messing with all manner of supposedly impossible stuff and has come up with a wide range of power conditioners, power cords, tuning devices and some stuff he doesn’t even know what to do with yet. He is successfully selling his products not only to us gullible audiophiles, but to gullible pro-audio engineers at studios and to gullible musicians -- all of whom are apparently equally dumb and deaf." Unsurprisingly this article gives no objective, or scientific reasons why power cords make a difference. We have though, inadvertently found the source of much of the pseudo science, rampant on the internet, and You Tube in particular, and it is, yes you guessed it, it´s Mike VanEvers.
@shiitakestick
@shiitakestick 5 жыл бұрын
Peter May LOL
@lepolygone3305
@lepolygone3305 6 жыл бұрын
I'm having fun reading the comments but everyone is missing the mark. Let's assume that wire A sounds different than wire B... but now, which one sounds "better". If you defend your choice by saying how "warm", "smooth", "harsh" or "opened", you're using the same voodoo talk your reseller uses. The reason why a Linn system sounds best with their "cheap" cables is because the R&D was developed with their interconnects, speaker wires and a 15$ Volex power cable. After multiple hardware revisions and attaining the best possible result, then and only then their product is fit for production. For this example, you can pretend to make the system sound "better than intended" by swapping cables around and making the system sound different...ok, so what? What's your objective take on this?... I urge you and people like you to learn about PRaT and stick to this principle when evaluating a piece of gear... it's inherently objective unlike the esoteric mumbo jumbo so many audiophiles use.
@10WA
@10WA 6 жыл бұрын
No offense Zero but you can't give an accurate opinion when your aware of all the information about each wire and just knowing Audioquest is "premium" cable will most likely effect your judgment. Has to be a blind test.
@billdunn8542
@billdunn8542 5 жыл бұрын
Camdex utter B.S. Enough promoting this psycho babble. Millions of people around the world can hear the difference of well designed cables. If you can’t, that’s fine. Why troll audiophile videos if you’re not into it. The ear hears what it hears, period. No more of your B.S. please!
@johnratcliffe6438
@johnratcliffe6438 5 жыл бұрын
@@billdunn8542 Who the fuck are you posting that shit? It's been proven cables make no difference you fucking mong. Proven. The videos on YT. Watch it. Fucking idiots spending a fortune on cables.
@4Kandlez
@4Kandlez 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnratcliffe6438 Shut up bellend, people CAN hear a difference, if your cloth ears can't that's fine, nobody cares, And no, it hasn't "been proven" you pleb.
@paulb.3227
@paulb.3227 5 жыл бұрын
@@johnratcliffe6438 Well well...what an agressive little boy you are! Uttering BS like a little child who does'nt get what he wants. EVERY experienced audiophile can hear differences between cables, and even not so well trained ears can.( My gf does not share my hobby, but even she hears differences in a spot) No, not in every set and not between every cable, but there are hugh audible differences between a lot af cables. So please don't show your ignorence so clearly; that's painful....
@johnratcliffe6438
@johnratcliffe6438 5 жыл бұрын
@@paulb.3227 Do you really work for AudioQuest? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@JudeNiro
@JudeNiro 6 жыл бұрын
I just discovered your channel, hope you're still reading these comments. I'm delighted you've also listened to the Curious Cable, so I have a simple question: have you heard any speaker cables that bring that same holographic quality to speakers?
@poserwanabe
@poserwanabe 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, there's no speaker cable that can bring anything more than 12awg lamp cord..
@Jman9112
@Jman9112 8 жыл бұрын
I really love your channel, dont get me wrong. But there's no way i'm spending more than $20 on some damn speaker cable.
@ZeroFidelity
@ZeroFidelity 8 жыл бұрын
And nobody will make ya. :D
@paulb.3227
@paulb.3227 5 жыл бұрын
It all depends on the quality of your set.
@nunyabiz2016
@nunyabiz2016 4 жыл бұрын
@Club Soda Not far off from what he said. Can we say that anything above like $100 is a little ridiculous?
@deeppurplefan9648
@deeppurplefan9648 4 жыл бұрын
You have to if you have big and expensive speakers that costs more than 2000$ And $20 isnt even expensive for a cable. If you can afford a pack of color inks that costs 40-50$ then you surely damn can afford a cable for 20$
@deeppurplefan9648
@deeppurplefan9648 4 жыл бұрын
@@nunyabiz2016 And How do you think cheap cable from china would be enough for a speaker that costs from 2000 to 30,000$?
@DNATruLyricist
@DNATruLyricist 7 жыл бұрын
I believe in these cables.. I'm tired of people dogging these cables.. And if I'm buying the 4k Qled Curved tv.. Damn strait im buying the Vodka cable from these people.
@leewilson9890
@leewilson9890 4 жыл бұрын
Smart man....You get what you pay for .. Cheap cables gives you piss poor quality everything!! And thats a fact...I replaced the older HDMI cables when I bought my M serious Vizio tv...Holy shit ..The OCEAN Audioquestr cables brought my tv to life.....Picture looks like the tv you see in the stores ..Especiall my 4k Apple tv shows AWESOME !!
@deejeemadrox1866
@deejeemadrox1866 4 жыл бұрын
That is the only thing to convince you: believe. Its like a religion. It looks awesome, it cost a zillion, it must be better. Thats the pitfall.
@deejeemadrox1866
@deejeemadrox1866 4 жыл бұрын
@@leewilson9890 Another believer. You must have had shitty HDMI cables, to get a result like you claim. More then anything, Digital HDMI cables do not make a difference, at all. That has to do with the way the HDMI signals work. Fact is, not one serious test have ever shown superdupa cables make any difference in the output signal. When the cable gets very long, thats the only way to loose quality; in fact, any kid can see that; you get artifacts allover the screen.
@VinylRescue
@VinylRescue 7 жыл бұрын
The price is a killer! Ever tried or used any cables from Blue Jean Cables? Their specs are really great and at least they're affordable.
@harriscl100
@harriscl100 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation! I am building a set of high end speakers and looking for affordable wire to build both internal and speaker connection cables. I ran some of the 4S11 cable across an LCR analyzer and was really happy with results. May save me a bundle on the overall build. At 2.30/foot a much better bang for the buck.
@MrHifihifi
@MrHifihifi 5 жыл бұрын
Wow Great review. You've got a new fan. A few questions for you. 1. Do you have a web site? 2. I listen mainly to 60/70's remastered English Rock and Blues CDs on my Doge 6 Tube CD Player. What speaker wires/cables under $350 a pair do you recommend that I would notice a night and day difference? I should mention I live in an apartment building so I don't want the bass to boom off the neighbors walls. Thanks Very articulate, informative and straightforward which is appreciated.
@LorenzoNW
@LorenzoNW 4 жыл бұрын
Too many unknowns to make a recommendation. What are your other components (speakers, amp, preamp)? What are you using for power conditioning? What interconnects are you using? What power cables are you using? What component platforms or rack are you using? Have you been deoxidizing all your connections annually with something like DeoxIT Gold and foam swabs? Have you been demagnetizing your CDs and system every couple weeks with something like a Furutech destat III? Interconnects make a more significant improvement than speaker wires. Ideally, you want to keep the same brand of interconnects and speaker wire. DH Labs and Audience make some of the best mid-end cables. But again, you didn’t provide any info about your system so it’s impossible to even guess what kind of improvement they would make. silversonic.com/products/speaker-cables/q-10-signature/ audience-av.com/cables/OHNO/
@MrHawkwind
@MrHawkwind 7 жыл бұрын
Personal opinion only but I have concluded spending vast amounts on cabling is an irrational extravagance, not because they can't make a difference but because any differences are minute, (psychological?) and also highly system dependent. That is Audioquest Tower budget cable might sound better than Audioquest Magic Battery Frozen Miracle cable, even between very expensive equipment. Just look for good quality materials and high manufacturing standards, a good electrical connection is more important than fancy acronyms..
@LorenzoNW
@LorenzoNW 4 жыл бұрын
I've NEVER met anyone who hasn't heard a SIGNIFICANT improvement when entry-level cables were replaced with good mid to high-end cables in a mid to high-end stereo system. Yet, I'm always reading comments on KZbin from people who never listened to high-end cables or a high-end system in their life. And those are the ones who always talk about double-blind studies, scientific data, snake oil, and placebo effect. Same old, same old, year after year. In the meantime, I'll go on and enjoy my high-end stereo with high-end cables. BTW, a good electrical connections IS important so if someone isn't using DeoxIT Gold with foam swabs annually, those high-end cables are money down the toilet.
@superdougie10
@superdougie10 6 жыл бұрын
I love this topic, speaker cables and interconnects both are a fascinating way to play around with quality of experience for a lot of audio enthusiast. I still use my original old school "Monster Cable" brand speaker cables from about 1985......solid copper, thick as he'll and they have never changed color. I've always used these.....just plain old school. Interconnects are Audio Quest "cheaper models"......
@HomeCinemaJunkie
@HomeCinemaJunkie 4 жыл бұрын
Funny, how the cheaper Type 4 looks more exclusive...
@BrotherNkosi
@BrotherNkosi 5 жыл бұрын
Wow a lot of " Big Johnson's" where being slung around on this one. Thanks for the demo. Sorry I missed the war.
@blaupunkt1619
@blaupunkt1619 8 жыл бұрын
Very good, thank you for the review! Keep up with the good job. Today I'm using Kubala Imagination on my Rubicon 2, but every now and then I look after cables to try to make my setup more synergic. Cheers
@ZeroFidelity
@ZeroFidelity 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Clyde177
@Clyde177 5 жыл бұрын
WOW, I just spent $315.00 on these 12.10.11 and I also have the MIT cables as well. this is an addiction. not as bad a I use to be. I just listened to a $100,000 system, with McIntosh mono block power amps..
@MrHifihifi
@MrHifihifi 5 жыл бұрын
And?
@dhruvgarg2737
@dhruvgarg2737 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this great informative review ! Exactly what I was after !
@darrenyuan5461
@darrenyuan5461 4 жыл бұрын
For parasound halo amp character, would you say the rocket 33 "warm sounding" character will benefit more? Or still the 44 gives better performance?
@peace-yv4qd
@peace-yv4qd 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. I was considering the type 4 vs the rocket 33. I'll go ahead and spend the xtra money for the 33. I recently bought a tube amp and the seller basically said, why spend thousands of dollars on audio components and spend ten bucks on interconnects and speakers cable? I would rather have the peace of mind that I covered all my audiophile bases without getting ridiculous.
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 5 жыл бұрын
Type 4 isn't ten bucks. Lol. Either wya they're both very good cables, especially for tube amps
@usmcgt911
@usmcgt911 7 жыл бұрын
Copper is Copper, silver is silver, gold is gold, and while I love my audio, you sir... are nuts 🥜... if your hearing different profiles out of cables and lines. Check out ARTIST-Cypress Hill TRACK-Insane in the membrane.
@methuenboy25
@methuenboy25 6 жыл бұрын
GT Vitti you are right. All forms of copper, regardless of purity, oxygenation and age, once manufactured by different companies all catering to different price points and different customers, will all be the same. Because how could one copper be and different from the next? It's all copper! I mean chicken is chicken right? Even if one grew up on a farm eating seeds and insects, while the other grew up in a cage being fed modified animal feed loaded with steroids. And how water is water, even if one bottle was sourced at the base of a mountain, while the other was collected from the Coca-Cola factories, repurified, and bottled. Shaking my head at all these "electrical engineers..."
@4Kandlez
@4Kandlez 5 жыл бұрын
@@methuenboy25 And to make it more scary, he actually has people agreeing with him,
@hushpuppykl
@hushpuppykl 5 жыл бұрын
Sean ... your advice at the start of the video does not sink in. ROFL!!!
@rshearn
@rshearn 3 жыл бұрын
Rocket 44 - c2600, mono block mc275, tannoy arden = Heaven
@findyourzero
@findyourzero 5 жыл бұрын
1. There will always be differences between Science (theory) and real-world (in practice) 2. Science itself, is a re-iterative process. We develop theories with what we know today, and find the best-fit model on paper. But we may find something previously unknown to us and modify (some times even obsolete past models) I believe in science, but I also believe in cables having effect on signals (in this case sonic qualities, whether it be digital / analog). Here is a very basic and introductory video for transmission theory - kzbin.info/www/bejne/pavIipSfoK5kZ8k The logic is simple. There will never be a perfect/ideal cable which many non-believers of cable states. Because there are so many variables that may physically cause change in signals being transmitted: 1. No one system are the same, so the impedance on both ends of the cable will be 100% the same. Plus: 2. The transmission line itself has many variables (as per the video). i.e. length, shielding, Inductance, Resistance, Capacitance So what we can only try to achieve to have a more "consistent sonic experience" is that one cable, made with the best processes and designs (to reduce variances between all cable of the same spec), and amp manufacturers do the same, and transducer manufacturer do the same. So at the end of the day, one specific cable will produce consistent results within the same system. But once you take that one cable and connect to different components (changing the system), is a whole other story. Ultimately, if you have the means, can tell the sonic difference, and you like what you hear. Why the hell not. Going around trying to change or convince somebody else by force, or do so in a condescending manner is counter productive and just proves you can't even communicate with another fellow intellectually. Then the worst follows as you spin it like it's some sort of I-win-you-lose game... My 2 cents
@393strokedcoupe
@393strokedcoupe 5 жыл бұрын
Man, you should really go into politics. We need more people like you!
4 жыл бұрын
Science of this kind consists of repeatable measurements. There is plenty of information about the capacitance, conductivity and resistance of cables that can repeated at home by you with simple equipment. If two cables measure within the same range where audible frequency at the given voltage are not affected, there is NO difference between them. If after this you claim to hear a difference, it is not the cable. If a cable is causing high frequencies to be dipped, this is higher capacitance for example. Effectively a low pass filter. Real changes are measurable. Listening is a conscious process, and often people will attribute differences based on confirmation bias. Go and read the absurd reviews of silver power cables and so on, things that literally CANNOT do anything unless all of the laws of physics are undone. I'm sure you could convince some people that putting a crystal on the speaker improves the bass. That doesn't mean they should be encouraged to do it, they should still be informed that this is nonsense, regardless of whether they want to believe it or not.
@findyourzero
@findyourzero 4 жыл бұрын
@ Yes. There are people trying to capitalize (scam) on others with bullshit. However, I'll have to disagree with "cables measuring (i.e. resistance, impedance, capacitance, inductance etc.) the same, there should be no difference and it's not the cable" statement. It is very narrow in context imho. Again, systems (whether passive or active) that you connect the cable with are more complex than you think. So the same cable may "react/respond" to different systems, differently. To elaborate further, some marketing bs that states a particular cable tames the high, extends the lows is bogus. It may be the case for a particular set of systems, but it's not true for every single system pairings out there.
4 жыл бұрын
@@findyourzero If you believe that two cables measuring the same can sound different, what is it you believe could make them sound different?
@findyourzero
@findyourzero 4 жыл бұрын
@ You missed the point of what I said above. And yes, I have tried different cables, can hear the difference it makes. If you don't hear the differences, more power to you and enjoy your music.
@3lueant347
@3lueant347 4 жыл бұрын
I trust my direct experience. Cables matter a lot. Just because some think they don't, or they can't hear it matters as much as whether anyone else likes the music I like. Which is to say, not at all. Thanks Sean. Now, what about Audioquest cables with their DBS technology? (PS: you were great on Steve G's channel)
@kinderu06
@kinderu06 4 жыл бұрын
Kimber 8 tc Audioquest type 8 Which one do you suggest ?
@sahdinkhan1827
@sahdinkhan1827 3 жыл бұрын
Kimber 8tc
@eddiebaby22
@eddiebaby22 8 жыл бұрын
thanks this was interesting and a great channel you have here.
@ZeroFidelity
@ZeroFidelity 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eddie.
@karatedohbaby2364
@karatedohbaby2364 6 жыл бұрын
I should have watched your video before purchasing the 33. 😅
@reginaldburnbridge2217
@reginaldburnbridge2217 5 жыл бұрын
Surely that way to go would be just eat KZbin bog standard cable with good connectors. All your tests, if speaker cables have a profound effect on performance of speakers colouring the sound what's the point. Surely would be advocating a particular speaker brand that will change speaker x to sound like whatever. People want to chase the elusive dream of perfection, they never be satisfied but maybe that's half the fun. I'm not an audiophile, but usually enjoy your videos of the most excellent thank you
@billsstudio2528
@billsstudio2528 Жыл бұрын
If you have a stereo setup over 2K, then I would for sure get an upgrade to Best Buy 20 dollar copper mix wire. I can tell you for SURE, plugging my guitar into an amplifier the tone is 'noticeably' different with different cables.
@РуфатШиралиев-п9и
@РуфатШиралиев-п9и 4 жыл бұрын
Audioquest WEL Signature perfect speakers wire! 👍
@letsgoOs1002
@letsgoOs1002 7 жыл бұрын
the arrow maybe the dumbest thing. That is not how electricity works.
@daveh9474
@daveh9474 7 жыл бұрын
especially alternating current...
@4Kandlez
@4Kandlez 5 жыл бұрын
@@daveh9474 Alternating current doesn't know which way to go?
@4Kandlez
@4Kandlez 5 жыл бұрын
@Mario Cantani It goes the same way the electricity goes.
@newton5954
@newton5954 5 жыл бұрын
Do you believe in by wiring your speakers or just running separate single speaker cables with like decent jumpers? I know you would save a lot of money that way but is there a benefit of bi wiring other than smaller speaker cables and having it cost more money and turn 2 sound quality?
@mrmanuel8529
@mrmanuel8529 7 жыл бұрын
Yep.. this video made me unsubscribe from this channel. Advertising for Audioquest to get free stuff.
@tainle
@tainle 4 жыл бұрын
The speakers cable quality is true there are differences. It just too many company make generic cables while some company put efforts into streamlining cable for better sounds. I doubt there is a lot of snake oil.
@animalmuppetmonster664
@animalmuppetmonster664 4 жыл бұрын
@@tainle That is true, there is a difference, mostly in the price tag, unless you are trying to start a 400 hp three phase motor you will be fine as long as you have the proper cable cross section.
@JerryWDaviscom
@JerryWDaviscom 6 жыл бұрын
I think I'm going to go with "the cables make a difference" camp. Using water as an analogy, when looking through a body of water, the fewer impurities in the water, the more transparent it is. More "data" gets through to the viewer, more accurate information. Wire can be quite similar. If the data flowing through the cable can flow with greater ease, or with fewer bumps along the path, then it stands to reason that a device sensitive enough at the other end will detect that purity or impurity. A/B testing is important. Just because a scope indicates an 'identical waveform' does not prove that the data coming out is equal. That said, in imagining this pathway, I still see two dinky, soldered wires connecting the driver to the speaker cable input. You know the wires I'm talking about - the +/- connectors that actually feed the driver. But maybe the cumulative effect of impurities along the speaker wire is what makes the difference, and perfect transmission right up to the driver inputs makes the driver inputs inferior performance less of an issue. The bottom line is the human ear. Double blind A/B testing among some bona-fide golden ears might give is the best consensus conclusion.
@jacksonian71
@jacksonian71 4 жыл бұрын
Jerry, get in that water and throw a ragged lamp cord connected to an amp in it. Then throw a fancy cable like this connected to an amp in it. See if the shock feels different and report back. :-)
@LorenzoNW
@LorenzoNW 4 жыл бұрын
I've NEVER met anyone who hasn't heard a SIGNIFICANT improvement when entry-level cables were replaced with mid to high-end cables in a mid to high-end stereo system. Yet, I'm always reading comments on KZbin from people who never listened to high-end cables or a high-end system in their life. And those are the ones who always talk about double-blind studies, scientific data, snake oil, and placebo effect. Same old, same old, year after year. In the meantime, I'll go on and enjoy my high-end stereo with high-end cables.
@bobbiebreese9377
@bobbiebreese9377 4 жыл бұрын
LorenzoNW Do you work for Audioquest??? 😂😂😂
@LorenzoNW
@LorenzoNW 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobbiebreese9377 No, I think there are better cables at similar price points (i.e. Audience, QED, DH Labs, High Fidelity Cables).
@bryede
@bryede 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know why people get so worked up when it comes to audio accessories. You may or may not be able to ABX a particular cable, but using upgraded parts throughout your system can have an accumulated effect that is perceptible. If nothing else, it's at least the sort of attention-to-detail bling that's available in so many other hobbies. My only advice is: use something of good materials and build quality, pay more attention to longer runs, and don't let your cable budget interfere with a component upgrade which will have a much more tangible effect.
@LorenzoNW
@LorenzoNW 4 жыл бұрын
Not always true. I bought a very expensive pair of High Fidelity Cables Ultimate interconnect (albeit at a good discount). And they yielded a far more significant improvement than any component upgrade could for a similar cost.
@sahdinkhan1827
@sahdinkhan1827 3 жыл бұрын
If you are not ok with Blue Jeans and want to spend money on cables then just get some Kimber cables. At least they are well engineered. AudioQuest speaker cables measure horribly. They look nice. But not well engineered at all. It's absolutely bs. Measure it.
@festushaggen2563
@festushaggen2563 4 жыл бұрын
If someone is spending hundreds of dollars on cables they'll most likely convince themselves it sounds better.
@randomtube8226
@randomtube8226 2 жыл бұрын
The type series and the rocket series are two different series. There are type 5 and type 9 cables now. In the rocket series theres rocket 88 cables also. Really curious to know how these cables sound. Then compared to the ones in the video.
@poserwanabe
@poserwanabe 5 жыл бұрын
y'all need to stop using the term "snake oil" ……...I've heard PETA is really getting pissed off, not fair to the snake.
@canigetanyofyoucuntsadrink8043
@canigetanyofyoucuntsadrink8043 6 жыл бұрын
Dude don’t listen to anybody on here. I buy audioquest cables the golden gate and I was gonna buy the rocket 33 8 foot. For cost reasons. I will probably just buy the audioquest speaker wire. What all these people who buy these cables are delusional and we’re all liars right for what reason would we have to spread false info about cables it makes no sense it’s personal preference and I like the sound of my Golden Gate RCA cables.
@gracestewart370
@gracestewart370 9 ай бұрын
Nice word salad. I’ll have Italian dressing.
@illiasamarskiy6196
@illiasamarskiy6196 7 жыл бұрын
Any difference between using silver vs gold connectors? any benefits to it? Thank you.
@billd9667
@billd9667 5 жыл бұрын
My mother said that if I had nothing good to say, I shouldn’t say anything at all, so.... edit: Just kidding! 😂 Being an X-ray technician, have some electrical (and radiation) physics background, so please keep that in mind. I know, for instance, that an alternating (AC) current moving through a conductor creates an electro-magnetic field around that conductor. That field creates current (and thus capacitance and impedance) in an adjacent conductor. Those factors MAY affect the adjacent conductor IF the original current is of sufficient strength. Since a power cord has a “sufficient” current and voltage, it’s a relatively simple test to lay an unshielded power cord beside an unshielded speaker cable, crank up the volume with no signal present and listen for noise. If there is no significant noise, that “black background” debate is over. Now, you might recommend that each lead (or at least one - preferably the negative) in a speaker cable be shielded against the other. I would get that, but why bother? In the quieter musical or silent moments, there is no current and, hence no field created - so no noise. Noise MAY be generated during high energy moments, but you won’t be able to hear it over the music. Still, I get that self-generated cable noise might be a concern and would consider biting on shielding. To me, all other factors besides low oxygen copper are BS because a conductor of sufficient gauge negates all other “arguments”. Got 12 or 14 gauge wire? You’re all good. Reason? Because the component wiring on each end of the wire are most assuredly [much] smaller than 14 gauge. How in the hell could a bigger wire between those components improve anything? It makes no sense. To wrap up here, I will loop back to the AC power cord test. Try it. If you can’t hear noise, no shielding is required. Since all else is BS, anything more that a good heavy-gauge lamp cord is a waste of money.
@LorenzoNW
@LorenzoNW 4 жыл бұрын
I've NEVER met anyone who hasn't heard a SIGNIFICANT improvement when entry-level cables were replaced with good mid to high-end cables in a mid to high-end stereo system. Yet, I'm always reading comments on KZbin from people who never listened to high-end cables or a high-end system in their life. And those are the ones who always talk about double-blind studies, scientific data, snake oil, and the placebo effect. Same old, same old, year after year. In the meantime, I'll continue to enjoy my high-end stereo with high-end cables.
@Solus793
@Solus793 11 ай бұрын
@@LorenzoNW you can do whatever you want and enjoy your stereo however you please but don't try to tell us that so-called "high-end" "audiophile" cables are anything but fraud, if you gave one of these $1000+ speaker wires to a group of electrical engineers to critically examine they'd cry laughing at the performance claims made, it is utter nonsense of the highest order these products are aimed at the consumer market to fools who don't know better, to fix a "problem" that magically only exists in their consumer gear... meanwhile in the professional audio world the pro's with a background in engineering and science who actually know what they are doing and design the very equipment that the music is recorded and reproduced on are not stupid or uneducated enough to buy into this rubbish and correctly dismiss it outright any perceived advantage in your fancy cables is coming from your eyes and overactive imagination working together, not your ears
@acelakid94
@acelakid94 7 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know where to find/how to build cables that _look_ like these "high end" ones? One with 4 connectors at each end would be nice. I don't care about the way they "sound"; so long as it is a quality cable that transmits the sound as it's delivered from the amp.
@vadimkrylov
@vadimkrylov 7 жыл бұрын
acelakid94 if you find let me know too
@paulp.4970
@paulp.4970 6 жыл бұрын
Try Chinese companies; some of them manufacture fake Audioquest and Siltech cables :-)
@DannoCrutch
@DannoCrutch 8 жыл бұрын
Been into High End Audio for 40 years. Whoever says cable doesn't make a difference not only doesn't understand audio, they don't understand electronics. LRC is still the biggest factor, but far too much snake oil and sociopathic pricing associated with this area of audio. Most times, all it is doing is acting as a sort of tone control. I've built a lot of equipment over the years, and there is something to be said about immeasurable but noticeable sonic differences. For instance, EI vs Toroidal transformers. A good, heavy, EI Core Transformer will sound A LOT better than a toroid (More 3 dimensional stage, more air, more lifelike). Trickier to design around, but sonically superior. Silver coated copper wire is bright and fatiguing. I've rebuilt amps targeting these two aspects and the differences were very apparent, even to untrained listeners. (other engineering buddies). Audioquest uses good wire, but their pricing is ludicrous.
@ZeroFidelity
@ZeroFidelity 8 жыл бұрын
You said a lot of things that I agree with. To even include the positive attributes of a quality Core Transformer. Well, in the right circuit at least. As for AQ pricing, I see it like this: Some of their products are priced quite sanely. In fact, there's one (new) budget cable of theirs that I'm extremely pleased with! However, I agree that there are plenty of sku's that are priced to the moon. Why is this the case? I don't have a definitive answer, but me thinks it's because enough people banged on their door and said: "If you're makin'... I'm buyin".
@DannoCrutch
@DannoCrutch 8 жыл бұрын
I like Audioquest, only went as high as Type 6, and I like Solid Core in my He Man rig (fully tubed). Just sounds better to me (Nordost FlatLine Super Gold - I was their 2nd customer and it was still under 100 bucks at the time). I also have some Acrotec Solid Core Speaker wire that is very nice. Ultimately, who really knows why, but my ears don't lie. Especially when you take the component OUT of the system, and notice it isn't as appealing.
@biffnaked5363
@biffnaked5363 8 жыл бұрын
My brother has a PhD in EE from MIT and uses a basic copper wire. But I am sure you know more. Not really. he's 12. I don't know why I like to talk crap. It makes me feel important.
@DannoCrutch
@DannoCrutch 8 жыл бұрын
When it comes to listening skills, I'm sure I do. How many stereo amplifiers has he built, tested, rebuilt, etc. Did he take Audio engineering?? If you could comprehend what I wrote, I stated LRC was the biggest factor (that there is engineering) and mostly the snake oil wires are basically just acting like tone controls. I also said I use copper wires, so other than showing glaring ignorance, what is your point?
@sim0nleb0n
@sim0nleb0n 8 жыл бұрын
So, you say you can distinguish a copper wire from a snake oil wire solely with your listening skills? I would like to see you do a double blind test, cos even a blind person (whose hearing is better trained than yours) can't do that. And I have never seen anyone doing that, despite being around in the high end scene 30+ years. I guess you are 40+, judging by your attitude, and I suggest you go to a hearing aid store to check out your hearing. You'll be surprised what frequencies you are missing and your brain is making up for. It's all in your head, Danno, maybe you should take the blue pill (metaphor) and step into reality. In fact, you're halfway there because you acknowledge the ludicrous pricing of those snake oil cables that Zero Fidelity (how appropriate can a name be?) is throwing at us. Well, here's an example: arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/07/even-vegas-strangers-agree-340-audiophile-cables-make-no-difference/2/
@poetryonplastic
@poetryonplastic 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone can hear the difference cables make in even a modest hifi system. Yall read too many internet think pieces and don't use your ears enough.
@BogdanSerban
@BogdanSerban 6 жыл бұрын
Yes because trusting your ears is better than trusting science.
@findyourzero
@findyourzero 5 жыл бұрын
@@BogdanSerban science itself re-iterates it's own findings over time too, just saying.
@4Kandlez
@4Kandlez 5 жыл бұрын
@@BogdanSerban Yes, you are correct.
@manojdsouza725
@manojdsouza725 5 жыл бұрын
You're really good at this buddy. No pun intended but would you be able to tell the difference between silver and gold banana plugs on the type 4 or any other cable for that matter? The only thing that makes sense is that you'd go with gold plugs if the terminals on the speakers and the amp are gold plated and I think silver is more prone to oxidation than gold. Also, how does rocket 11 compare to type 4?
@deejeemadrox1866
@deejeemadrox1866 4 жыл бұрын
This. Plus the fact that internally, nothing is golden soldered. Just plain tin.
@ledmk2
@ledmk2 7 жыл бұрын
Nice audio cables, but If your hearing is not good then you can all cables that is availble on the market but you hear no any difference. inside the cable's are just cheap wiring but you not can see it because the company smart and cover it and customers believe in Joke's
@petermay1219
@petermay1219 7 жыл бұрын
Wilfred May Mike VanEvers You also speak of bandwith for EI core power transformers as being narrower than for toriod, is this important as the tranformer only runs at the line frequency 50/60 Hz? No answer was recieved. Does DannoCrutch think Mike knows what he is talking about as the line frequency in the USA is 60Hz and power transformers are not designed to have any bandwidth, Why is there so much ignornce on KZbin, anyone?
@milesv5352
@milesv5352 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@dan_hitchman007
@dan_hitchman007 2 жыл бұрын
Or you could get some 12 gauge OFC Belden cable and save yourself HUNDREDS or THOUSANDS of dollars. Audioquest and speaker cables like it are snake oil. What you want is the correct gauge for the length of cable and the electrical load. You also want solid interconnects, not made out of pot metal spray painted to look like silver or gold.
@boeing757pilot
@boeing757pilot Жыл бұрын
Exactly! But please don't bring true engineering into this conversation.
@ZeroFidelity
@ZeroFidelity 8 жыл бұрын
Hello all. I admit this wasn't my best work in terms of describing how a product sounds. So if there was something that I wasn't clear on, please don't hesitate to ask!
@duarteteixeiradebarros3555
@duarteteixeiradebarros3555 8 жыл бұрын
I think this is a very useful review. Well done.
@ZeroFidelity
@ZeroFidelity 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks. :)
@anthonymansell6716
@anthonymansell6716 7 жыл бұрын
I'm new to this but . In mu honest novice opinion I feel that the sound you hear is no1 dependent on the source and no2 the quality of the speakers used...as long as the cable is of quality copper and the suitable gauge it should not need ludicrously priced connects.
@jacksonian71
@jacksonian71 4 жыл бұрын
Zero Fidelity, I love your reviews and your honest practical info. But this just ruins everything. If you really believe expensive cables sound better or even different for that matter when no one has passed the blinded lamp cord test, it just casts a shadow over everything you’ve said. So it has nothing to do with you not doing a good job of describing the sound-it’s simply absurd to say a cable has a sound. But if you really believe that, I’d love for you to do a video on HOW a cable may even theoretically impart a sound. Otherwise, just remake this video and talk about how cool the cables look, the craftsmanship, etc...I’d actually buy nice cables for the looks and craftsmanship, but not for the “sound.”
@magicmee1
@magicmee1 6 жыл бұрын
antone tried van den hul carbon?
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 5 жыл бұрын
I think it’s important to know about the works published in the Journal of the Audio Engineering Society. In a nutshell, 12 AWG or 10 AWG copper cable from a quality manufacturer like Belden for a couple bucks per foot is imperceptible from the high dollar cables.
@y.k.9705
@y.k.9705 4 жыл бұрын
I'll fight for my cable. GRRRRRR 🤯
@Solus793
@Solus793 11 ай бұрын
These products only exist in the consumer market not the professional one where the most knowledgeable people are to be found, wonder why that is...
@mikewinburn
@mikewinburn 3 жыл бұрын
sounds like an "experienced" reviewer. Can you compare Rocket 44 to Kimber Ascent? would love to hear from an experienced user of both.
@dandaman456
@dandaman456 4 жыл бұрын
@zerofidelity - do you know an online supplier of genuine Rocket 33 & 44 with good pricing?
@petermay1219
@petermay1219 8 жыл бұрын
If cables influence the sound there is something wrong with them.
@jandewitt7178
@jandewitt7178 8 жыл бұрын
So tell us what would be wrong then...Peter. And please tell us, if there is nothing wrong with a cable, how would that cable sound?
@sim0nleb0n
@sim0nleb0n 8 жыл бұрын
A cable transports a current, nothing more, nothing less. There is no difference in sound between a copper cable of home depot and these cables. The only way Zero Fidelity would convince me, is that I (or someone else) switch the cables and Zero Fidelity sais which cable is plugged in. If he is so sure he can hear the difference, it would be an easy task for him.
@petermay1219
@petermay1219 8 жыл бұрын
Ivar I replied to your question on Friday evening but it was not posted. I will try again. An interconnect or any piece of suitable wire connected between the audio source and an amplifier will have no audible effect on the signal arriving at the amplifier input. Audio cables should not have any "sound".Douglas Self has bwritten a very good article "Science and subjectivism in audio, aif you red adn understand this article all will be made, (forgive the pun), clear.
@jandewitt7178
@jandewitt7178 8 жыл бұрын
Peter May Thanks for the reply. First let me address your claim: ....will have no AUDIBLE effect on the signal arriving at the amplifier input. That is wrong. It should be: ...there will be no MEASURABLE effect. This is the main mistake the article makes if you ask me. By the way the article is mostly about amplifiers. Not cables. Let me explain my thoughts: 1. His point is mostly: 'If you can't measure it, it does not exist'. Basically he says (for example) that the ear can't detect small amounts of distortion, therefore we cannot hear differences. This presupposes that the differences, as heard in the above video, are only due to distortions. But do we know this is the right thing to measure because he also states: We don't know how music affects the emotions. So what should we measure? 2. His only argument on the subject of directional of cables is basically: It is not possible! (not very scientific) because it is AC. But the claim is not that AC is directional. The claim is that cables are directional. So whether you believe this claim or not he just makes a mistake here. 3. This one, I think, is really stupid. He does not approve of tubes because 'they have distortions and are expensive'. What kind of argument is that? Especially now that we know that our brain 'likes' distortion. My first 'audiophile' amplifier was a musical fidelity A1. All my friends liked the sound. But some reviewers (technicians) did not like it because: 'It measured terribly'. Measurement and perception are not the same. This is especially important if you think that all perception is subjective as the article more or less claims. I could go on and on, so if you are up to it here is one more: 4. The: subtraction test only shows the difference in signal, not in perception, and is therefore not really the best proof. Again because we don't know how emotions are affected (and measured). He just states that everything that cannot be measured is subjective. I cannot agree with that. And last but not least, it still does not explain the differences heard by so many people. I have demonstrated a fully copperwired system against a fully silverwired system (the same system) and 90% noticed the difference. Now it could have been that all these people where subjectivists. Yes, that could be.
@jandewitt7178
@jandewitt7178 8 жыл бұрын
+simonlebon Have you ever tried this experiment? Since you seem to know there are NO differences in sound in any cable you must have done a lot of experimenting. Or do you just think there cannot be a diference (based on just one parameter)?
@andrevanstiphout
@andrevanstiphout 3 жыл бұрын
I have experienced a significant number of cables ranging from cheap hobby shop figure 8 cables to very expensive cables such as Van Den Hull, etc. What I have discovered is that the expensive cables are a waste of money. If you were going by the science, why would you incorporate the + and - cables in one sheath. Cable size can simply be calculated on the amount of power (VxI) flowing through them. So why on earth would you want cables that would carry enough current to light up an entire house? If you refer to high end speaker manufacturers, the smart ones would not recommend any of this very attractive and expensive junk. JBL for example, recommend, even for their expensive systems (mine are fully restored C50 Olympus S8R models) that plain old 18G figure 8 is more than adequate for runs up to 15m (approx. 49ft) so lets get back to reality. By the way, any strand of copper wire must be "oxygen free" or it would corrode in no time so when I see the "OFC" moniker in cable advertising by the big cable manufacturers, I just see it as more BS advertising. Then there are the cables with the little black boxes of mysterious magical power in them. Come on! I want my cables to be as short as is convenient and don't want little gate keepers half way down the line. Finally, I didn't notice any disclaimer regarding any benefit that "Zero Fidelity" might get for their review. Could it be a bit like Stereophile magazine where you never see a bad review!
@markushillemalm
@markushillemalm 5 жыл бұрын
Tested the typ 4 for 6 monthand its everything then open and dynamic! If you want to hear some difference when you bye a cable, bye type 4 and hear you system sound awfull. Switch to Supra ply 3.4. And now it's good again.
@MrHifihifi
@MrHifihifi 5 жыл бұрын
buy not bye
@humanitech
@humanitech 4 жыл бұрын
While I am open minded to try things to improve sound quality andappreciate your neutral approach. I was just wondering if you have ever tried comparing or reviewing any budget 10 - 14 OFC copper cables that the DIY people use? Just to give some perspective.
@LorenzoNW
@LorenzoNW 4 жыл бұрын
There so much more that goes into manufacturing high-end cable than just using oxygen-free copper. A short response can't begin to cover it. But in the end, who cares. What really matters is what YOU hear. I can already tell you that you're not going to hear much difference from cheap DIY cable. But I've NEVER met anyone who hasn't heard a SIGNIFICANT improvement when entry-level cables were replaced with good mid to high-end cables in a mid to high-end stereo system. Yet, I'm always reading comments on KZbin from people who never listened to high-end cables or a high-end system in their life. And those are the ones who always talk about double-blind studies, scientific data, snake oil, and placebo effect. Same old, same old, year after year. In the meantime, I'll continue to enjoy my high-end stereo with high-end cables. If you want to upgrade your system with better cables, tell me what your system is and I'll make some suggestions.
@humanitech
@humanitech 4 жыл бұрын
@@LorenzoNW think you have got me wrong friend I know that cable makes a difference tosound and dynamics. But hi-fi gets a bit snooty and snobby. And generally nobody especially hifi reviewers include DIY option comparisons equally foyer never compare to made branded product.. Keep a very interesting topic polarised. I play around with different off the shelf cable like those who multiweave C5 or high grade mains transmission lines or coax etc etc. Now I appreciate hi-fi cable companies are equally trying to develop good sounding product but it all becomes confusing to the average person. Also in manufacturing the usual minimum markup is 5-6 times the manufacturing cost. So my point was and is that it would be good if reviewers would also getsome off the roll as reference point - such as a ofc 12 or 14 awg or maybe a high frequency digital coax with woven and centre core cable because some do offer great sound and dynamic improvements equal to more expensive custom made cables. My system is mid do but I have friends with up to £62000 systems and we have all still played with made and DIY and all have their place and there are sonic surprises. But nothing to get stressed and judgemental about eh? Also from testing direct wire contact I think is often better than bananas and spades but I am not knocking expensive cable or hi-fi equipment and I like exploring and making things.
@LorenzoNW
@LorenzoNW 4 жыл бұрын
@@humanitech I think cables are such a polarizing subject on KZbin is because 1) Many if not most people looking at KZbin audio reviews have entry-level systems and there’s an automatic sense of cognitive dissonance and anger when they see cables costing more than their entire systems. 2) They may have tried a heavily marketed cable like Monster on their stereos and of course, didn’t hear any difference. 3) They may have tried a truly better cable but their system wasn’t resolving enough to hear the difference. I’ve had people tell me they own great stereos only to find out they have a Denon receiver, KEF speakers, a cheap CD player, and no power conditioning. Whatever termination you choose, it’s important to deoxidize all your connections once a year with something like DeoxIT Gold and foam (not cotton) swabs. It’s also important to demagnetize CDs, components, and cables with something like a Furutech desert III. But most people have no clue as to what great sound even is.
@improvingshooter5423
@improvingshooter5423 5 жыл бұрын
You testing how the placebo effect applies to you was minimally beneficial. It’s funny how these companies that produce these cables will not perform and publish the results of a true double blind listening test.
@chriss881000
@chriss881000 4 жыл бұрын
Do a blind test. This guy would fail 10/10. I see myself as kind of an audiophile. BUT, im not crazy likr the rest of them. They are full of BS. Saying They hear this and that with different cables. I just bought the rocket 33, becouse i just wanted pre made cables, and these was the cheapest ones at 450$ i could buy a pair of cables that cost 3000$, i would not hear a difference. These audio ppl are just crazy.
@Solus793
@Solus793 11 ай бұрын
​@@chriss881000 they would fail to detect even an extra ADC -> DAC in the signal path let alone magical differences in cables, it's beyond laughable - Dunning Kruger effect in full force, trying to use speaker wires and power cables as a form of EQ tone controls.... gods save us, it is really embarrassing to see fully grown men fooling themselves (and others) with this utter nonsense that they spout, betraying a total lack of understanding of basic scientific / engineering principles
@Al-ol3tu
@Al-ol3tu 5 жыл бұрын
A fool and his money are easily parted
@Alextall1
@Alextall1 8 жыл бұрын
Great review. Let you in on a secret... I'm running a decent mix of audio quest and nordost cables.... My biggest fear is that my wife will sell them one day for the price I told her I paid them..... Let's just say there is a small fortune in cables alone in my system.... Guilty.... 😱😱😱
@ZeroFidelity
@ZeroFidelity 8 жыл бұрын
Hey Aaron. haha You certainly wouldn't be the first person to fudge the numbers on their sundry toys! I don't even bother mentioning the price of this stuff unless it involves cheap n' cheerful gear like the Polk T50's. :)
@jimolson9671
@jimolson9671 5 жыл бұрын
Aaron Sw I too am very guilty!
@deejeemadrox1866
@deejeemadrox1866 4 жыл бұрын
I always find it amazing how a magical super cable can push better sound towards the internal speakerwiring, you know, the industrie standard copper wires between the connector to the filter and then towards the speaker driver. Very amusing. AFAIK you cannot enhance sound, you are limited by what is inside the speaker itself. Meaning, you only have to match the quality of the internal, speaker wiring. You can easily do that with cables of 20 dollar a mtr, maybe less. So yes, you are selling snake oil.
@boeing757pilot
@boeing757pilot Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Somehow these cables actually "improve" the sound. What a complete laugh
@russelsteward3412
@russelsteward3412 4 жыл бұрын
A little more meat on the bone then ! :)
@youssefhamidi8152
@youssefhamidi8152 Жыл бұрын
Rocket 33 says $295/pair in your video but online it says $669/pair 🤨
@hildareveron6858
@hildareveron6858 5 жыл бұрын
You need a rocket to send all those cables to the moon🤣😂🤣😂
@MrHifihifi
@MrHifihifi 5 жыл бұрын
HaHa Nah
@Audiofyele
@Audiofyele 8 жыл бұрын
Have you had any exposure to the Rocket 88s with 72v? If so, what do you think?
@ZeroFidelity
@ZeroFidelity 8 жыл бұрын
Nope! I have next to zero experience with their 72v stuff. Sorry man!
@Audiofyele
@Audiofyele 8 жыл бұрын
Zero Fidelity 10-4- thanks for replying brother-man!
@juliaset751
@juliaset751 5 жыл бұрын
I have the Rocket 88’s. I recently moved my rack and had to more than double my speaker wire length from my Rocket 44’s, so I thought I would try the 88’s to compensate. They do sound better, smooth as silk, which is saying a lot because I’m now at 18’ long speaker cables. I was able to buy mine without the DBS for about half what the regular DBS cables cost, the seller buys the cable in bulk and terminates as needed without DBS to save cost. I assume I can’t name the seller, but they are one of the better known online sellers.
@anirban557
@anirban557 4 жыл бұрын
Are those ATC speakers at the back at the beginning of the video?
@FJBx100
@FJBx100 3 жыл бұрын
Harbeth. dude.
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