Jane Eyre (1997)_ Fire scene

Jane saves Mr Rochester from a horrible death.

[@janetlawless3369]

both of them were perfect in their roles. and, I am in love with ciaran hinds ❤️❤️

[@HoldOnToHope2023]

Me too!!! I’ll do as I’m told!!! Haaaaa!!!

[@d.l.4544]

I have seen quite a lot of Jane Eyre adaptions so far and read the book as well. I did not know this one, though and I am truly glad I found it. I think it is brilliant and to me Ciaran Hinds is a fantastic Mr. Rochester. I do like his intense play very much and although the film differs from the book in some ways ( as most Jane Eyre adaptions do), it has left me with the emotions I felt when reading the book. Mr. Rochester or Jane are not meant to be handsome or pleasing, are not supposed to be characters that you easily fall in love with. I do love the 2006 version as well but one has to admit that Toby Stephens is far too good looking and too nice a character and Ruth Wilson not severe enough to portrait Jane and Edward. Jane Eyre was written in the Victorian Age and it would be impossible for us to understand the way feelings and hidden emotions were expressed back then, to me this versions transports the intensity of their feelings best.

[@graveyardghost2603]

Very good insights.

[@jurd4539]

1 7e q

[@beatricesanfilippo6925]

Ruth Wilson Is so beautiful. She was 22 years Old when She play Jane Eye 2006. Now i'm glad that She play Marisa Coulter unlike Nicole Kidman

[@saxiba8287]

Thats the best actor as Mr. Rochester!👍

[@mrs.connor8640]

Thank you for say this!!! I agree with you 100%!!! ❤

[@HoldOnToHope2023]

♥️🇮🇪Ciaran Hinds!!! 🇮🇪♥️

[@fredadezwart5398]

No timothy dalton

[@kdough03]

He's the best Rochester ever! Fine acting on both their parts.

[@laurendubois4314]

Ciaran Hinds as Rochester and THIS scene live rent free in my head. And probably always will 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@saxiba8287]

The music in this film is wonderful, this version mit CiaranHinds I think is the best of all

[@zaraw.6192]

Honestly I’d have been pissed off with him yelling at me all the time. Like poor Jane.

[@graveyardghost2603]

Understand why you say that. But Jane can see through his harsh exterior, and realizes he has a good heart underneath the gruffness--he is just troubled. He is a complex character, and Charlotte Bronte explains it so well in the book. I am certainly not saying you are wrong, just that there are many facets to the character, and Jane grows to understand him all too well. She feels a rare kinship, which is why she puts up with him. If he were just a bully, she would no doubt kick him to the curb lol. But he is more than meets the eye. Tell you something else--he is also a bit afraid of Jane, because she is dignified and very intelligent. Strong women often scare men, so the men will try to establish their dominance over them. Jane obviously understand that, it even seems to amuse her at times. After all, his bark is worse than his bite. He really is s good man when all is said and done.,

[@niellaniemayadriano8892]

JANE EYER 1983 I love too

[@izCCCPvPoccuu]

and 1996

[@kanekokazuko7034]

I agree👍

[@aysun9354]

Me too

[@karawhiteside2693]

I love this version 💞

[@mrs.connor8640]

This the better!!!

[@annacordara8980]

Grazie questa versione di Jane eyre è forse la migliore di tutte e comunque le amo tutte!Il romanzo è stupendo..❤

[@megofiachra3247]

They mess with the dialog too much for my liking, but at least they don’t have them “almost kiss” like a lot of them! That drives me crazy when they do that! The version most faithful to Bronte’s scene as written, and just as passionate (if not more), watch the Timothy Dalton 1984 version.

[@kathleenpullinger]

Oh yessss.

[@audreyhepburn652]

@moviehero88 I bought the book when I was 13, and I read it. Well... Nowadays, it's the novel of my life. I'm totally in love with Jane and Mr. Rochester, and their story. The first film I saw was 96's version (with Gainsbourg & Hurt), but after I were finding other versions, and 1973's is my favourite now. M. Jayston is an absolutely awesome Edward. You've got it on my channel. I found 97's in a kiosk by chance. Thanks God!! Nice to meet you! ^^

[@izCCCPvPoccuu]

1 - 1996, 2 - 1983, 3 - 1997, 4 - 1973... here are my favorites

[@prairiepalmetto9378]

I love the 1973 Michael Jayston/Sorcha Cusack version also. I found Jayston as Rochester to be a man easy to love. Not sure Ms Brontë would have cast him, but he does a masterful job of faithfully delivering passages from the novel. He is classically trained and obviously a theatrical actor, but the way he acts with his (beautiful) eyes, and the emotion in his voice played well to closeup cameras. I’m very partial to Mr. Jayston (May he rest peacefully with God) and to Ciaran Hinds, the more fiery Rochester. Both were phenomenal in the role. The final scene with Ciaran Hinds crying in the arms of Jane is unforgettable.

[@princesspinkblue]

as much as i hate to admit it..he kinda scares me in this version

[@graveyardghost2603]

That is actually part of the appeal, for some women. Charlotte Bronte the author said in the book st one point Jane longed to hear his voice, but feared to look into his eyes. Fear can actually be an aphrodisiac! In the book, Jane was bored and longed for some excitement to shake up her dull existence. And boy, did she get it. :)

[@weinerschnitzelrock1]

I believe this 1997 version with S. Morton and C. Hinds tried to be more passionate than the 1996 version directed by F. Zeffirelli with C. Gainsbourg and W. Hurt. Hinds had had success with his BBC radio portrayal of Rochester. This was done differently to make up for the so called defects (lack of passion) of the 1996 version. I enjoyed both versions very much for different reasons. Hinds is humorous; Morton is intense. Hinds steals more scenes than the reverse.

[@izCCCPvPoccuu]

I love the adaptation of the 1996 most. It is very delicate, touching, tender, deep. I think that William hurt is the best Mr. Rochester. In second place is the adaptation of 1983 for me. This version is closer to the book. And Timothy Dalton is playing very well, although he's too handsome for this role. But in third place there is a version 1997. Although Mr. Rochester is sometimes too emotional. And I don't like the plot of this film is something. Sometimes it is funny and ridiculous. But it is not so bad. It's even uplifting. And already on the 4th place for me, the film adaptation in 1973. It's closest to the book. I apologize for my English.

[@HoldOnToHope2023]

If CIARAN HINDS told me to do as I’m told I am going to do as I’m told and SIT DOWN!!!

[@audreyhepburn652]

@Mozggg Well, I like both. And Ciaran Hinds doesn't seem a pervert to me. I find him very warm, although he is too passionate here. Toby Stephens and Ruth Wilson have, as you said before, so much chemistry, and it's nice to see it on the screen. Sincerely, I can't choose one of them.

[@beatricesanfilippo6925]

It was Bertha burning Rochester's chamber

[@rosevanguard]

Why does he keep yelling scaring her even more.

[@graveyardghost2603]

See my reply to Zara W.

[@ihateyoutube8789]

That's my problem with this version. Even in the book she points out when he speaks softly. He never speaks softly in this one though.

[@animechic420]

This Mr. Rochester’s aggressiveness is hot. 😚

[@audreyhepburn652]

@RushTheSilver Yes, I think she's the best Jane. Except on the 'kiss-scenes'. I hope Jane kissed better than Samantha. lol

[@elizabethpetrie2732]

My thoughts are that in the proposal scene, Samantha Morton gave a very realistic and believable portrayal of an inexperienced young woman caught up in her first passionate relationship. I’m sure we were all pretty insecure and awkward during our first kiss!

[@MountainSleeper]

@Mozggg I feel like it's because he's not attractive to some audience members. It's really all about looks. Obviously, if a fifty-year-old guy with a beer-belly was in this role, we wouldn't quite be dying for him to declare love to her.

[@audreyhepburn652]

@xXGirlsXxNotxXGray It's my favourite book ever, so I understand you perfectly. Any film can compare to the book, but I think you should watch some of them and judge them by yourself. I recommend you 1973's, cuz it's fantastic.

[@MsAmalika]

@xXGirlsXxNotxXGray My favorite movie is 1997 version but my favorite adaption are both BBC mini series 1984 and 2006. they both have the gypsy scene. none of the movies did....i seen every single one!

[@raquelmateus4471]

O like ook very much Thimoty Dalton en Zelah Clark.

[@emmamii]

I don't like this mr Rochester, he is shouting at Jane too much ;) And what is going on with this scene? Jane running away from mr Rochester - it wasn't like this in the book... ;)

[@graveyardghost2603]

Yes, he tends to shout, but he is just very passionate I think. Jane doesnt seem to mind.

[@graveyardghost2603]

@@cellowali2865 no, it doesn't mean shouting all the time. However, where passion is concerned, it can take many forms. Some people tend to rant as a way of venting their passionate feelings, that's just their way. If they follow it up with loving care, it becomes acceptable. Charlotte Bronte the author, had a professor who tended to chastise her severely, to the point of making her cry. But then he would comfort her. I understand if some font understand the concept of aftercare-- following a bdsm session-- but that is basically what is going on between Jane and Edward. I know, it is beyond the comprehension of many. But it is true, nonetheless. Only the initiated truly understand. Charlotte Bronte understood all too well. Do you realize that some people who are sexual submissive, actually " like" being yelled at? It's TRUE. It turns them on. Having read a biography about Charlotte Bronte, she admits in a letter to her professor, that she misses him yelling at her. And she wrote Jane Eyre, so what does that tell you? If you dont believe me, don't take my word for it-- do the research. Scholarly articles have been written about the sadomasochism in Jane Eyre. P.s. Ciaran Hinds did in fact show tenderness to Jane as well, as Rochester. How can you have missed that? Did we watch the same film? Pay closer attention next time. No, not all people Express passion by yelling and ranting. But for some, it is a symptom of passion.

[@graveyardghost2603]

@@cellowali2865 okay, well I understand where you are coming from. I dont like the Rochester in the book that much myself at times! In the end we are all individuals, so it isn't any wonder people like different versions of Rochester, or dont like him at all. You are probably in the majority actually, and I admit that my opinion is less frequent. But then again, it seems like a lot of people love this story. :)

[@graveyardghost2603]

@@cellowali2865 I agree about Rivers! Nasty piece of work. Nay I ask-- which film is your favorite then? I am curious.

[@graveyardghost2603]

@@cellowali2865 I also really like the 1996 with Gainesbrough and William Hurt. I wasn't aware of the 70's version, but there are even older ones that dont appeal to me at all. So, you like Timothy Dalton, him. Well now I understand why we dont agree on who played the best Rochester lol. Dalton is too " pretty" and also it seems like as Rochester, all he does is sulk lol. Also, ever since Mary Queen of Scott's, I cant stand to look at his face! So there's a personal bias. I guess i will stick with Mr. Hinds for now 😊 p.s. it isn't even his attitude I like best, it's his eyes and the way he uses them. He is like that in all his films. Conveys do much in a single glance. If anyone ever looked at me like that, I would pass out on the floor! Lol.

[@audreyhepburn652]

@moviehero88 Really?? Oh, thank you very much!! It's my pleasure! I'm Debbie!

[@glassineheart]

I've said it before, but I think that the version of Jane Eyre one likes best is the one which has your favorite Rochester. Ciaran Hinds is way too ott for me as Rochester, he's always screaming. I watched this version once and never again. I didn't like the screenplay much either.

[@graveyardghost2603]

See my reply to Zara W.

[@maksim535]

Is there a scene with a gypsy in this version?

[@rosabeth4631]

I like Ciaron Hinds plays Mr Rochester well however, I think that I prefer the 2006 version with Toby Stephens as Rochester. Firstly, because he is good looking and also he plays Rochester much better.

[@SheGeek78]

Mr Rochester was not conveniently handsome in the book

[@audreyhepburn652]

@moviehero88 Really? Great! I love it too!

[@audreyhepburn652]

@maksim535 No, there isn't. I'm sorry! :(

[@surayaakter3113]

Olha pra mim Jane 🥰

[@JennyMack-rm9fk]

Manily used stretch book of characters rooms furniture scenery clothes etc different properties choose from this version Rochester mostly wears night shirt Rochester blamed Jane for fire found candle stud only she used that type guess he mainly wanted her gone some he was deathly afraid of fires he was taken bertha cottage by beach she looks out with longing in her soul but she was reminded have give roschester a fighting chance stop sealing herself within bridal chamber.this adult version most people wanted rewritten for young adults thats maybe on Internet but was tampered with so i like to share some of original version.on different websites buy from readers digest.if that maybe altered too.ebay

[@Schoolgirl325]

I can't stop laughing at how godawful this adaptation was! Everything is just wrong! Sure, Rochester could be a controlling, deceitful, and somewhat manipulative bastard, but he wasn't without his soft spots for Jane and no vulnerabilities or sympathetic qualities. He still let her go after she told him she wouldn’t be his mistress and/or companion three times after finding out he had a wife, and he never actually followed through on his threat to physically and/or sexually harm or force himself on her to make her stay as his mistress when she refused. He never compared Jane to Blanche Ingram for refusing to stay with him when she found out the truth about his wife, demeaned her, or tried to make her feel stupid for falling for him. You can argue that Jane might have been in denial when she said she wasn't jealous of Blanche Ingram after Rochester used her to make her jealous, but never in a million years did she even entertain the idea that Rochester was romantically interested in Grace Poole.

[@graveyardghost2603]

Um, yes in fact she did speculate about him and Poole. She wondered if they had been romantically involved when they were both younger, and whether Poole was now blackmailing him. But she dismissed the idea, since Grace Poole was so unattractive. This film does deviate from the book in other ways, but not that one. You might want to read it again more carefully. And I also happen to like Ciaran Hinds as Rochester, because yes he shouts and commands a lot, but I think there are several reasons why. He has a naturally passionate nature, he is frustrated by life, and he is somewhat intimidated by Jane's dignified manner and intelligence. And men like that try to dominate their prey lol, if they are none too sure of winning. I could go on, but suffice to say the Rochester character is complex, but that's one reason Jane likes him. He does have a heart, or I dont believe she would put up with him. But it seems people like the different Jane and Rochesters in various films, for their own reasons. To each their own.

[@Schoolgirl325]

@@graveyardghost2603 I haven’t read Jane Eyre as a whole in a while, so maybe, you’re right. However, what bugs me about this film adapatation of Jane Eyre in particular is the lack of love that I feel Rochester has for Jane in this scene. Yeah, when you look objectively and realistically at the majority of Jane and Rochester’s relationship in Jane Eyre, it’s not really a healthy one because Rochester is a rather domineering, very deceitful, short-tempered, and somewhat manipulative toxic mess in his cowardly fear of being rejected by Jane, though his intentions are non-malicious in regards to her. It’s not a relationship that I would ever support in real life. However, when you look at their relationship subjectively through Jane’s POV, what makes Rochester sympathetic and ultimately redeems him is the fact that Jane always retains her genuine love and empathy for Rochester, even when she’s outwardly and rightfully consistently disapproving of his shitty behaviors and choices, and he ultimately retains his genuine love and respect for Jane in the face of her love and empathy for him, even while she’s refusing him, which restrains him from ultimately giving into his darkest desires and temptations in scenes like this one and inspire him to be a better man. In this scene in the the book, Rochester commands her to be his wife, and even threatens her with violence once if she refuses. She continues to refuse his request for her to stay with him for another couple of pages. It gets to a point where he physically gathers her to him in an “iron grip,” and tells her that he is tempted to harm her and even rape her to force her to stay with him, but he also says that he could never actually bring himself to physically harm her or rape her to force her to stay with him because then he would lose her forever, she would lose her sense of free will, and he wouldn’t really have her love and respect by taking her by force and/or physically harming her to make her stay with him. Then, Rochester actually lets her go, even though she still refuses to stay at the end of their conversation. Jane actually makes a dumb choice to walk back to him, and kiss him on the cheek to tell him “God bless you and reward you for your past kindness to me, my Dear Master,” which, of course, gives him a bit of false hope, and he tries to embrace her again, which she evades. When you look at this scene from the book objectively, particularly by modern day standards, it would be pretty uncomfortable to be in Jane’s shoes with Rochester in that scene after the wedding, but he is made sympathetic and redeemed within the context of the narrative because his love for her and respect for her ultimately wins out over his darker temptations to force her to stay with him by following through on his threats to physically harm her, and/or rape her. After she vehemently refuses to stay with him as his mistress and/or companion three times and tells him she will leave him forever in the face of his commands and threats, he realizes he could never actually force her to stay by physically harming her and/or raping her, even if he feels tempted to in his anger and despair over the prospect of losing her, and he actually lets her go. Then, when she comes back to him, he asks her if she wants to marry him without using any sort of commands, manipulations, and/or threats to try to get her to say yes and agree to his proposal. It would be hard to portray this scene from the book right because, while Rochester clearly does love Jane, he’s also being incredibly toxic in his attempts to coerce her to stay as either his mistress and/or companion after she finds out the truth by being demanding, dropping at least one couple, granted, empty, threat of physical and/or sexual violence against her if she refuses, and even physically grabbing her in a “vice like grip,” while telling her he how he feels tempted to physically harm, kill, and/or even rape her to force her to stay, but also pointing out that he could never actually bring himself to kill, physically harm, her and/or rape her to force her to stay with him with because then he wouldn’t really have gained her love at all, he’d only push her further away, and lose her forever. So, in the novel, Rochester’s characterization in this scene is kind of unhinged. Reading it as an adult, you might feel some fear for Jane, but you ultimately realize that all of Rochester’s demands and threats to try to convince Jane to stay are empty at the end of the scene because he can’t actually bring himself to physically harm and/or sexually harm Jane to force her to stay because his love and respect for her wins out in the end, which redeems him in the context of the novel during this scene. So yeah, in the original novel, there is initially a sense of distress and unease for Jane’s safety in the face of some of Rochester’s overreactions of despair and rage over her leaving him, but there is also genuine love and respect for Jane in him there that ultimately wins out against his darkest temptations of resort to physical and/or sexual violence to force her to stay and in his decision to ultimately let her leave after she refuses his demands for her to stay with him as a companion and/or mistress three times, rather than continuing to try to command and/or pressure her to stay. In this film adaptation with Ciaran Hinds as Rochester, all I really see is anger, disrespect, and hatred. There is no love.

[@graveyardghost2603]

@@Schoolgirl325 very interesting! I like that you thought this through in so detailed a manner. I have my own p.o.v. which is not entirely in synch with some of what you say, but a lot of that has to do with my own personal experiences and thus biases, I must admit. That is because I have known men like Rochester, both as portrayed by Mr. Hinds in the film, and as described by Ms. Bronte in the book, and all I can say is their bark is worse than their bite. Of course, there are men who definitely take things too far, we all know that. But I dont think Rochester fits that category, or Jane wouldn't have him. Unlike you, I DO feel the love of Rochester towards Jane. I am reading a very good biography of Charlotte Bronte right now, and it is enlightening to say the least. Apparently, she was drawn to a particular type of man--strong, dominant, alpha males. She greatly admired the Duke of Wellington, the commander of the British army who defeated Napolean, and he was a stern fellow indeed, who considered most people inferior to himself. She fell in love with a married professor who was indifferent towards her--and he is thought to have inspired the character Rochester. So Rochester is NOT the most healthy kind of man to fall for, and as you say, he may be somewhat toxic is some respects. Sometimes love can be like a mental illness...but the world isn't always sane. Are you really just a schoolgirl? Remarkable. Thank you for your insights, and for considering mine. :) let me leave you with one question, schoolgirl325; if there really was no love btw them, do you honestly believe a smart girl like Jane would have gone back to him--not even knowing he was injured and perhaps less "toxic" because of it--if there really was no love? If I didn't feel he loved her, I wouldn't cry everytime I watch the ending! 😉 okay one last thought--both of them had been injured by life before they ever met. And oftentimes when two injured people come together, they can help each other. Because they understand one another's pain. And I think that is exactly what happened in this story. Ten years later, they had two children and she declared she had at last found love. That settles it for me. Because you see--sometimes in life, the end really does justify the means.

[@Schoolgirl325]

@@graveyardghost2603 Oh, I love Rochester as a character, too. I love the way his relationship with Jane ultimately progresses. I definitely believe there is good in him, too. I believe he genuinely loves Jane, too, and that redeems him. However, I’m also not the same naive 14 year old girl I was when I first read Jane Eyre either. I now know that, realistically speaking, Rochester would not be a healthy choice for a love interest. He is/was deceptive, domineering, temperamental, and somewhat manipulative. He openly admitted to feeling tempted to do some pretty horrible things to Jane that would seriously creep me out in her shoes in real life, if I ever had to deal with that in a love interest telling me what he told her in that moment when she told him that she would leave him forever. However, I still believe he is redemptive within the context of Jane Eyre because his genuine love and respect restrains him from crossing that line into being completely unforgivable, and he learns from his mistakes after Jane leaves him.

[@graveyardghost2603]

@@Schoolgirl325 the things he says that "creep you out"--are you talking about something in the book? Can you please tell me a chapter, I am rereading the book cause I haven't read it in ages, but I am only on chapter 16. Thx!

[@LittleMissV]

too much mustache!

[@ihateyoutube8789]

Very *unpopular opinion: Rochester wasn't actually in love with Jane until she came back, and he had respect for her. P.S. I always got the feeling that he wanted her in the beginning because she was good, which is why he was willing to lie to her.

[@Tattie1988]

Well, I thought so as well. Untill I’ve stumbled upon a little notion in the book that Rochester turned quite wild, he let all the servants off and was gloomily wandering at nights in the fields after Jane had left. It does seems like a genuine suffering.

[@d.6832]

Yes. He had a strong passion and a deep infatuation for her. He was obsessed with Jane and nearly went mad when she left Thornfield. But I believe that only after they are reunited their love becomes deep, stable and based on trust and respect. After Rochester loses Jane, loses Thornfield, loses his sight and his hand, he becomes a better man and regrets his mistakes. Jane and Rochester meet again more as equals and respect each other more than ever. Now their relationship can really blossom and become something beautiful.