Audyssey MultiEq App for Denon & Marantz | Worth $20?

[@TheFrugalAudiophile]

Even though the app interface is not very good it is still nice to have. It is the only way to edit the target curves.

[@Slyder695]

Cant wait for the results as I have the x6500 ( which is similar) on the way and running the lsim for my front 3.

[@dewdorama]

great video!! thank you for this, I've been really curious about this app...

[@calbeatnik]

I was waiting for you to comment on what it sounded like. Did it improve the sound? Bottom line if it improved your sound that would make it worth purchasing.

[@karan3606]

Very nice video. Very nice video. Can you please advise me what settings should I choose to listen background sounds clearly (wind, water, birds i.e high frequency sounds) in movies. Sometimes background music suppresses the background natural sounds. I have tried to raise the curve but has not noticed any difference. Your reply is highly appreciable. I have Marantz SR7013 receiver and mainly used for movies.

[@JayeBass]

Good video, midrange compensation has nothing to do with the bass though. All about the smoothing out the harshness around the crossover frequency of most speakers. You use it if your speakers crossovers are around 2kHz. I know you just got new studf but i’d love to see you review some focal speakers. Im going to share my car system with you as soon as its finished. All focal speakers(except sub) and all zapco processing and amplifiers 😁. Hopefully you’ll come over to the world of car audio. Its alot harder to get it sounding right though

[@fabiozagoo]

Really want know If u use flat this automatic turn off too .

[@willo300]

Great video and easy to follow, got an SR8015 a couple of days ago so will give this a try 👍

[@Kpaceguy]

Thanks for watching

[@fondoo]

I have a marantz NR1609 and just purchased the app. thank you for the video!

[@Kpaceguy]

Thanks for watching

[@tonyoneill7031]

Do you have a link to the second video on the Audyssey app, I would like to see what you think of the results.

[@JC-bl9bo]

So what's your final verdict? I can't see spending 20 bucks on this. Looks like it just complicates things and would confuse me.

[@fred215]

dynamic volume for make bass sound better on ym marrantz sr 7010 :)

[@Sensi1995]

Thanks for the video!

[@martindye]

The built in amplifier software on my Denon amp said my front left speaker was out of phase, I checked it and the speaker terminal was loose (definitely not out of phase though). Quite impressed it found the fault. It would be interesting to know what technical reason is, that causes the app to flag an alert.

[@JagadeeshPolepalli]

For me it pointed out that one of the speakers are of reverse polarity.. When checked it really did.. Then I fixed the wiring

[@neelpatel15]

Why all the hate for Dynamic EQ? I like how it fills out the bass at lower volumes. It feels like the “Loudness” option on Stereo Amps.

[@Kpaceguy]

Right essentially what it is.

[@erikbarsingerhorn4485]

All speakers 'out of phase' is probably because you have turned the phase of your sub's then the app says all speakers are 'out of phase' turn the phase of your sub's and try.

[@martinvanwijngaarden7235]

Thank you for this nice video explenation, greetings from the city (Eindhoven) of Marantz (the Netherlands)

[@Kpaceguy]

Hello from America!

[@fadi9340]

Well I never knew Marantz was from the Netherlands.

[@joelane4670]

I’d like to purchase this app.but,wouldn’t know how it works..my system sounds decent now.but bass kinda Booming sometimes..

[@davethestalker]

Damn, too bad it won’t work with my x7200wa, thanks a ton Denon

[@nanao1267]

Equalizers help a lot.I wish there is way to add equalizer to modern receivers. Is there any modern receivers that has an option to add equalizer?

[@JayeBass]

Nana O there’s an EQ in the denom and marantz receivers. If you do your audyssey calibration, you can turn off audyssey and copy over the curve to the eq and then tweak it from there. Its only 9 bands though. You’d be better off just using the audyssey app to adjust eq

[@nanao1267]

@Jaye Bass , Thank you very much.I don’t own non of those receivers.I have a Sony receiver but i will upgrade to Marantz or Denon later on

[@taylorsteinman5455]

@@nanao1267 I just upgraded from a sony strdn850 (2014 model) and it had an eq for each speaker (except subwoofer), its just bass and treble as opposed to individual bands but it helped. Go into speaker settings on the on screen menu and you should find it in there.

[@nanao1267]

@Taylor Steinman, Thanks

[@smegwad]

Great vid. I've done the Audyssey calibration and it set my speakers all in the range of -6.0 or lower. I find myself having to crank the master volume on the amplifier much higher now to get the punch and presence I want. I am planning on using a decibel meter to make sure all my speaker volumes are equal (same db level using the meter). Here is my question: what would happen if I boosted all the speaker levels up to say -2.0 or even 0? Will it allow my speakers and amp to work harder and produce more sound, or will it also screw up my Audyssey-imposed room corrections?

[@Kpaceguy]

Yes as long as EVERYTHING gets turned up at the same level and under 0db. All the receiver is doing is trying to keep everything at around 75db. You can boost it to your liking

[@smegwad]

@@Kpaceguy Thanks! I did the fine adjustments with the meter last night, using test tone function at 0 db on the amplifier. All good except the sub level is still quite low at around 50 db on the meter. This makes sense to me, but I see other people recommend getting the sub up to 75 as well. What do you say?

[@Kpaceguy]

Yes for sure.

[@Kpaceguy]

@@Jay37_tech use an spl meter. Doesn't matter since it's your 0db level. It'll be fine. Sometimes rooms are too big and you need the extra boost in level

[@mafosa9563]

seems like it did a good job! dont know about the reference level triming though. 20 bucks to have "piece of mind" knowing where your eq eneded up. thanks for sharing! larry

[@Kpaceguy]

Thanks for watching

[@waymonfrench2077]

@@Kpaceguy what's your sub gain and reciever trim

[@innersoul4376]

I use a Emotiva XPA-7 Gen 3 and it seems to make Audeseey think speakers are out of phase. Are you using a Emotiva?

[@Kpaceguy]

I use it for 2 of my channels but they never have phase issues. I always ignore phase warnings when I know my wiring/rca is fine

[@jdmsz9378]

Yeah I turn off Audyssey when listening to music and use the tone controls and the graphic eq. Audyssey makes music sound too boomy. But it's great for movies

[@Kpaceguy]

Exactly

[@innersoul4376]

So did you manage to post a video of the listening tests before and after changing curves etc

[@Kpaceguy]

I havent yet only because I need to get speaker placement right before I do any listening test

[@swanny78]

Be good to see a tutorial on how to use curve editor. I have the app and run it but I have no idea what good looks like now , donI need to edit it or not?

[@smegwad]

Anyone know why my room correction results are cleaned up in the lower frequecies, but at around 500-600 Hz and above, even the corrected curve still has a lot of noise? The "after" curve is identical to the "before" curve from 500-600 Hz and up.

[@Kpaceguy]

Its always a "best effort". You can go in and adjust it

[@nuclearcrypto7743]

How do you change the levels of the speakers , Do you go back into the receiver? Or is there a way to do it on the app?

[@Kpaceguy]

I didn't see anything in the app so I'm assuming that will be in the receiver

[@redundantrobert]

Nuclear Crypto You can adjust speaker levels by clicking the right white arrow when viewing the crossover settings. The UI will move to the left revealing the speaker level UI.

[@sandeeplalka]

Can this app help me increase base and treble when using stereo mode?

[@ricsim78]

All you have to do with most Denon and Marantz models, on your controller there is an options menu. Scroll down to TONE and you can adjust Treble and Bass :)

[@giovannirizzotti3923]

Hi, thank you for the video :) If you disable Audyssey Equalization, is the room correction still active?

[@Kpaceguy]

Levels, distances, crossovers yes but not as effective

[@thepiecesfit5049]

Note that the after charts are not measured responses just simulations. The only way to confirm what Audyssey has done is to measure the frequency response with REW.

[@juanvenegas278]

Did you mean to room correction results ?

[@thepiecesfit5049]

@@juanvenegas278 Yes that's right. It does nothing to measure the filters and how they change after the fact.

[@Laidoffsick]

When I ran Audessey with my Denon 4700H without the App, it told me all my speakers were out of phase. They're obviously not but I could not run Audessey until I reversed all the connections. After it finished, I swapped them back. Not sure wtf that was all about

[@Kpaceguy]

You have the option to ignore it

[@Laidoffsick]

@@Kpaceguy did that, it would not continue. Once it did the test tones to find active speakers, no matter what I tried it wouldn't go any further until I reversed all the connections.

[@innersoul4376]

unless your base level speakers can go down to 40hz i would change all crossovers to 80hz and height speakers to around 120hz

[@Kpaceguy]

They go down to 26

[@themarcorider]

What's your surround speaker please?

[@Kpaceguy]

@@themarcorider Polk audio LSiM 703s

[@themarcorider]

@@Kpaceguy thanks

[@thepiecesfit5049]

Doesn't matter how low your speakers go. It's recognized and even recommended by THX to use standard 80hz and set all speakers to SMALL. You really don't want bass coming from your speakers as it will be localized and boomy. Let the subwoofers hit those low frequencies. This is also coming from the Audyssey creators. Receivers tend to get these crossovers wrong. It is highly recommended to set it 80hz across the board and enable Dynamic EQ.

[@nonametofame]

Thanks for posting this video. I've ran numerous tests on a denon 4300 and on my current 7705. Here are some recommendations: set crossovers for all speakers to 80hz, minus your front heights. You can set xovers higher than audyssey settings but not lower. Also try setting your rear svs elevation speakers to 90 or 100hz. Note that there's a glitch that will set the fronts to 40hz, even after you upload your results to the Marantz. You have to manually go back into the in-reciever settings to change it back to 80hz. You might discover tons of bass coming out of your dual pb4000s after this.

[@Kpaceguy]

I appreciate this man!

[@nonametofame]

@@Kpaceguy No sweat. I've been following your videos, and I'm digging your content. You're sharing tons of great content and advice. Just wanted to return the favor. Please post your thoughts on the settings I recommended. We have similar gear and listening spaces, so the feedback will really help me too.

[@MrNorcal81]

Even though this video is pretty old, hopefully, you'll get a look at this. I've been playing with the Android version of the editor app and, while it's can be very good, there's one issue that may limit its usefulness for me. When running a calibration, if there's sudden ambient noise (car going by, dogs barking, plane flying overhead) there doesn't seem to be any way to cancel the current mic position and redo it. With Denon AVR's, Audyssey does allow you to cancel and redo it. With the app, I've had to restart the calibration from the beginning sometimes multiple times. Such is life in a typical residential neighborhood. Unless there is a way to back out of and redo a position, the app can be be very frustrating and too time consuming to be effective.

[@Kpaceguy]

They have a pause feature in higher end equipment but auddessy doesn't do it

[@MrNorcal81]

@@Kpaceguy Thanks. Most of the Denon and Marantz AVRs let you redo an individual position and, apparently so does Audyssey MultiEQ-X (at $200) but the MultiEQ Editor cannot. As turns out , the editor app was created by Denon/Marantz and is not supported by Audyssey. I spoke to a Denon Rep today who confirmed that. I guess if you can get a relatively quiet 10 minute window to run a calibration, the editor app will work for you.

[@MrNorcal81]

@@Kpaceguy First, congrats on the new house. I just discovered that, with the MultiEq Editor, you can actually repeat the testing of a position. Let's say that you're in the middle of tones to position 2 and a car goes by or some other extraneous sound occurs. You have to let the tones to that position complete and then wait for the editor app to receive the results data from the AVR. Once that's done, Retest Last Position (or something like that) is enabled and you can run the tones again. The wait is a bit cumbersome but it works. The app also, after I believe 2 or 3 positions, lets you end the calibration and use however many positions you've done (most likely 6 instead of 8). So it turns out that the editor is much more functional than I thought.

[@jlong2197]

Great video!

[@Kpaceguy]

Thanks I appreciate it

[@dannyciallella8197]

Interesting. After I ran my test. On the app it wouldn’t let me change the crossover on my subs

[@Kpaceguy]

Because it set it to large. Set it back to small

[@mareli82]

I saw this comment around on different audio channels and I'm going to repeat it, why is it people have a huge surround sound system and the tiny screen, don't the visual part matter?

[@Kpaceguy]

I have a projector. This was my bedroom TV before I moved out.

[@qua7771]

That app wouldn't work with Amazon tablet. Just ordered a regular Android tab to use this app as well as the Marantz and harmony remote. Thanks for the information.

[@Kpaceguy]

Pretty interesting! Thanks for watching

[@qua7771]

@@Kpaceguy Did you find the app to be quirky to edit the curve on a touch screen?

[@Kpaceguy]

@@qua7771 it's not all that accurate with changing curves but it's a start

[@qua7771]

@@Kpaceguy thanks for the quick responses. I guess I'll find out. I need to do some acoustic treatment then run Audyssey again. I'm looking to source some mineral wool sheets for sound absorption.

[@Kpaceguy]

@@qua7771 that would be pretty nice

[@thiagodelgado3128]

Do you know why or If its right, my svs bookshelfs are cut on 60hz but the rolloff begins earlier at 80hz, and ir I push more Bass they clipp thats makes me crazy

[@Kpaceguy]

Its probably your receiver. Clipping is when an amplifier is sending a bad or dirty signal to your speakers usually at high volumes. Might look into getting external amplification

[@thiagodelgado3128]

@@Kpaceguy Man, Do you believe that's happens only on the imax enhanced video promo, and my receiver is a denon X8500H, do you believe that's? I'm pretty angry haha!

[@Kpaceguy]

@@thiagodelgado3128 yeah that's insane. I guess if I were you I'd put it back to 80hz if you're experiencing issues

[@thiagodelgado3128]

@@Kpaceguy Yes when is set to 80hz don't clipps, but in 70hz clipps, never thinking that will see a x8500h clipping. We talking about a bookshelf, imagine ultra tower, this probaly will blew up my receiver. The clipps begins in -10dB.

[@Kpaceguy]

@@thiagodelgado3128 what do you have your levels set to in the settings

[@Altariya]

Any help on why my room correction results are not flat like yours. My before and after look the same

[@Kpaceguy]

It'll be different for every room and system. It depends how flat your sound already is

[@juanvenegas278]

Hi, Same case here with two different measurements. Do you have a Denon AVR ?

[@Altariya]

@@juanvenegas278 yes I have the s750h

[@juanvenegas278]

@@Altariya same as mine. See the post from thepiecesfit. I guess that's the answer why.

[@Squishmallows24]

You know you got a beefy bad ass sub when you can just sit on it haha

[@Kpaceguy]

🤣🤣

[@AR_ZACK91]

Anyone know if it'll work for s650h?

[@TheGameBoy56]

I have the denon 8500 I have it all setup on Manuel and I think it sounds great if I buy this app and use it will I lose all my Manuel setting that wat I’m worried about ?

[@JayeBass]

GrimaldiScaleKustom you wont lose your manual EQ but your previous audyssey setup will be lost. All your time alignment and leveling will be reset too. But never let audyssey set your distances anyway. You can go into the audyssey app and enter in your own distance settings there as well. Audyssey does a damn good job of eq’ing the speakers. I’ve verified with REW. If i were you let audyssey do the EQ and then go in and change everything else with manual measurements

[@TheGameBoy56]

Jaye Bass thanks so much for answering

[@sebastianschmidt8629]

BlackBerry singen in the dead of night

[@ebarbie5016]

BTW, the red after graph is just an estimation, not the true response of the speakers. Use REW and you'll find out that Audessey is crap... If you want a true RC system, get a receiver with Dirac Live...

[@casse82]

As an anecdote, I did run REW after XT32 and it seemed to work nicely for me. Of course not the fantasyland curve that the app shows, but it did do a good job. I did adjust the curve a tiny bit after seeing the REW measurements but just saying that it's bad in all cases is not true. The app interface is horrible though and the designer should be sent to a very bad place.

[@BFArch0n]

Is that an apartment? That tiny room, with those GIANT subs, WTF. lol

[@Kpaceguy]

You got it lol

[@mandominguela5187]

I can't connect, it'll get started then it kicks me off?

[@Kpaceguy]

The App has a lot of different issues with stability. It's really just trying over and over until it works

[@mandominguela5187]

I've tried and tried, last night when I bought it, pissed me off so I went to bed, and today when I got home from work, nothing I guess I'll have dinner now. #@%%&!

[@mandominguela5187]

I had a thought, can I use my phone's USB connector to my avr, will that be direct?

[@Kpaceguy]

@@mandominguela5187 I'm not sure that will work because when you plug in the calibration mic it turns it into a different mode so your avr won't even read the USB

[@mandominguela5187]

@@Kpaceguy well okay I keep trying it, and still won't let me

[@lancealex382]

"So here's an app, it does stuff, does it work....err dunno, I didn't listen"!!

[@drpepper3726]

Can you change settings while a movie is playing?

[@Kpaceguy]

You can to a certain degree. Some settings mute the audio

[@drpepper3726]

@@Kpaceguy can you adjust bass and treble easily besides messing with the curves?

[@Kpaceguy]

@@drpepper3726 Yes you can do that without going deep into the settings. It won't mute the audio either

[@ebarbie5016]

I'm using it, but I did not pay for it. If your phone is rooted and you have Lucky patcher installed, you can get it for free. Install and pay then press refund and you keep the app even after getting a refund....

[@Kpaceguy]

Wow that's crazy

[@johnpoo1662]

sorry but those "after" curves in red are laughable. there is no way that is an actual measured (in-room) response!

[@Jason-wc3fh]

You said "nitty gritty"... As silly as it seems, I recently found out it could be considered racist based on its origin.

[@Kpaceguy]

That is pretty silly

[@lancealex382]

You didn't even listen to the results!!!!

[@keef78]

This guy with his tiny room and double subs, lol, ridiculous.

[@Kpaceguy]

When you get your tax money in I'll show you the house I want .

[@Kpaceguy]

@John Smith its a good thing I won't live in a single room apartment forever then huh

[@akeelal-shakarji4057]

So the app is useless