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AUGMENTATION Evoker: First Look at the New Spec [10.1.5 PTR]

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Dratnos

Dratnos

Жыл бұрын

Check out the new Augmentation spec's tree over at Wowhead: www.wowhead.co...
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@SerGlushko
@SerGlushko Жыл бұрын
Augmentation Evoker - a raid leader spec. You already have the frames and the cooldowns tracked, your own damage isn't as significant as other dps and you get to choose who's getting all the buffs
@poorwowgameplay
@poorwowgameplay Жыл бұрын
Raid lead hunter will probably remain the premiere spec. For augmentation you’ll probably want them all just stacked with anyone whose CDs line up with ebon might and just send things on CD.
@Ressilge
@Ressilge Жыл бұрын
Way too much going on as Augmentation to be an effective raidleader class.
@r_c1048
@r_c1048 Жыл бұрын
raid leaders have enough micro management going on. This new spec will be really tricky to track everything. Thats why most raid leaders play hunter and can pretty much afk dps :D
@KiiiiDFresH2oo9
@KiiiiDFresH2oo9 Жыл бұрын
Nah, it really isnt if you think about it.
@TheSilverwing999
@TheSilverwing999 Жыл бұрын
You dont really get to choose though. It's all smart targeted, at least the big one is
@TheLordDracula
@TheLordDracula Жыл бұрын
We need to do a push to get Dratnos to break that 100k subscriber mark. This guy is a treasure in our community!
@Revion91
@Revion91 Жыл бұрын
he used to be 100k subs? what happened?
@HolisticHiker
@HolisticHiker Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@shmooperdoodle
@shmooperdoodle Жыл бұрын
He is a treasure, just as a human being. 100/10
@a_diamond
@a_diamond Жыл бұрын
Added my sub 😊
@Worst_Casts
@Worst_Casts Жыл бұрын
Loving all the new videos recently don’t stop please
@crabsyoureit
@crabsyoureit Жыл бұрын
Oh frick don't stop
@greenxintet1651
@greenxintet1651 Жыл бұрын
Breath of Ions - Targets struck by this ability are nerfed by 30%
@NormoGames
@NormoGames Жыл бұрын
Keep blessing us with these consistent uploads man! Love it
@crunky833
@crunky833 Жыл бұрын
I don't want to be doomsayer guy, but that spec got me really worried. There is already big competition in LFG m+ for getting dps spot and now blizz introduces spec that is utility powerhouse and bring some unique buffs into the play, which guarantees spot for them. It's reminds me BFA m+ state where you played 1/1/1/2, or tank/healer/rogue/2dps. I'm always like new innovative mechanics and cool features, but that one can really collapse already shaking balance of group forming. God help those warriors, survs and dks that will try to fit into those 2 holes, knowing how they struggling already.
@hobosnake1
@hobosnake1 Жыл бұрын
We all know balance in WoW has always been of varying quality and never perfect. I just hope they treat this with great care. It's going to be hard for them to make this spec good but not too good. I have to admit, it's a brave decision by blizzard, but it's worrying.
@beaglebeagle8094
@beaglebeagle8094 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the 3 ret, 1 prot, 1 augment m+ groups
@brother24021
@brother24021 Жыл бұрын
This would be dogshit, meta will be: Vengeance dh, holy paladin, fire mage, spriest and augmentation or if its dogshit then enh shaman
@sillyredsheep2421
@sillyredsheep2421 Жыл бұрын
Breath of Ians is a sick spell
@Varaben
@Varaben Жыл бұрын
Every time I see someone look into this spec it makes me more excited for this spec. There are so many big brain plays you can make with this (eg the movement stuff with the stone, blistering scales timing with big pulls) that it’s going to be so much fun.
@hobosnake1
@hobosnake1 Жыл бұрын
It makes me excited for the future of the game. More neat stuff, quicker Ideally. DF is doing a good job of that with the new class and spec for it later. Got me thinking blizzard might actually add a new spec or class in the next xpac.
@ominaroust1109
@ominaroust1109 Жыл бұрын
run like 5+ augmentation evokers and 1 demo lock. So much 10% cdr that the demo lock grabs enough of them to get permanent tyrant, so they permanently extend every pet they ever summon. That would ramp..... very quickly. very.
@threeinitiates8260
@threeinitiates8260 Жыл бұрын
wow I completely forgot about skittish affix until you mentioned it in this video, I do NOT miss that one. phew
@jacobpascoe6220
@jacobpascoe6220 Жыл бұрын
It's super interesting to consider how this might be utilised in future race to world first events. You mentioned near the beginning how a group might choose to min-max, I think there are great opportunities.
@effortlessGFX
@effortlessGFX Жыл бұрын
Very curious to see how this plays out in arena.
@kunoki960
@kunoki960 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how this spec will affect LFGs. I think having 1 slot pretty much locked into this spec makes the already contested spots a lot harder to get.
@utopin-xt4qt
@utopin-xt4qt Жыл бұрын
cant understate this
@coops1992
@coops1992 Жыл бұрын
They are def replacing those useless dps warriors 100%
@Wand422
@Wand422 Жыл бұрын
​@@coops1992 I see you just don't like brown people smh
@lostman99
@lostman99 Жыл бұрын
@@coops1992 I didn’t come here to be dragged like this.
@olschriff2921
@olschriff2921 Жыл бұрын
@@coops1992 im a dps warrior and it would be sad... :(
@GreyGramarye
@GreyGramarye Жыл бұрын
I've generally been pretty skeptical of the concept, because this seemed more like a Shadowlands Blizzard move - sort of an "instead of the thing you want, which is a tank spec, we made this bizarre thing that looks like it'll be a nightmare to balance and oh believe me it will be!" kind of move. But you might've turned me around on that. It does seem pretty cool and I have to admit I find myself wanting to try it out.
@arma1218
@arma1218 Жыл бұрын
I for one am excited to personally bring back Skittish week
@Nyeusi
@Nyeusi Жыл бұрын
Is that confirmed to be back?
@forcefulstorm6187
@forcefulstorm6187 Жыл бұрын
​@@Nyeusi only if the aug evoker wants to
@NullRageGaming
@NullRageGaming Жыл бұрын
My first bit of feedback is, "That looks like A LOT of active skills!" I dunno if my puny rat brain can handle using so many cooldown based skills optimally. Gonna need some real fancy weak auras to get the most out of it. I do like that most of them seem fairly forgiving on the positional side of things. As a PuGLyfe player it can be very hard to predict random tank movements some times. This specs addition (along with a sale on a expac that most players say is good) is what made me resub. So, I hope I enjoy it.
@steelsky78
@steelsky78 Жыл бұрын
I think they should move Ebon Might to be a dmg proc, like Inferno's Blessing or Blessing of Summer, this way most of the damage they boost can be directly counted as their damage. Loving the idea of Augmentation, I think specs like these are super cool, I hope it's well recieved :D
@Unitos_
@Unitos_ Жыл бұрын
Allow Evokers to choose party members or nearest allies with a toggle for things like Ebon Might, Zephyr, etc.
@SurpriseCake
@SurpriseCake Жыл бұрын
I really want to know how they're changing the ability for details to track augmentation damage contribution as its own damage. Will augmentation be able to top dam?
@shmooperdoodle
@shmooperdoodle Жыл бұрын
Should it? The name even indicates it’s supposed to be supportive. If it was *also* top damage, that would be pretty broken, no?
@DarkScreamGames
@DarkScreamGames Жыл бұрын
My biggest problem here is it seems to have concept crept on Paladin quite a bit. It has blessing of salvation, better auras, old ret aura.. ... I hope if this stuff works out they start giving some of these toys back.
@brother24021
@brother24021 Жыл бұрын
Bro…you really didnt get enough huh? Prot pala being giga fun and strong, ret paladin getting big rework making the spec fun and good (and immortal, lowest death rate out of all dps specs),holy paladin 10.1.5 rework making spec looking way more fun and for now - pre nerfs - the best healer. Not enough, huh?
@AbzuLifeweaver
@AbzuLifeweaver Жыл бұрын
I love the green options in it, I would like more blue options in augmentation. I think a draconic attunement for all the flights would be fun.
@MFTomp09
@MFTomp09 Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t help but hear “Breath of Ians” over and over..
@AncroKT
@AncroKT Жыл бұрын
It's me, Stretch Time is specifically designed for your friend Ancro who presses Deep Breath and then gets swatted out of the air in M+ because WOW there's a lot of frontals this season.
@PapaSnurp
@PapaSnurp Жыл бұрын
I think of the scales like a DK's bone shattering talent. Doesn't look initially like it would be a lot of damage, but could end up being in the top 3 damage for a tank spec overall in a dungeon.
@riddert4966
@riddert4966 Жыл бұрын
Yep, bdk #1 tank in S3 or S4 again, calling it now :D
@djking44151
@djking44151 Жыл бұрын
I've done some test with a tank on the PTR, doing some crazy pulls in Cobalt Assembly and it was the tanks top damage ability at 26%
@Nevwermore
@Nevwermore Жыл бұрын
I want to see how they manage to balance this out for specs that have giga burst dmg profile.
@MadAllDay
@MadAllDay Жыл бұрын
Breath of Ian's.
@ChristopherCDaniels
@ChristopherCDaniels Жыл бұрын
The only thing I’m not crazy about so far (as an evoker main) is the lack of mobility. I’d like more instant casts as part of the kit.
@ThePreviouschannel
@ThePreviouschannel Жыл бұрын
i have not deside yet on having my evoker as main but i would like to get more mobility as you said :)
@d1v1ne2986
@d1v1ne2986 Жыл бұрын
for Warcraft logs they already have an exclude external buffs option. They could just add an option to exclude logs with augmentation evokers lol
@goodshowmanythanks
@goodshowmanythanks Жыл бұрын
How useful is it really going to be to see an empty list using that filtering though? :]
@sherpagoolsbee8390
@sherpagoolsbee8390 Жыл бұрын
Im a die hard support player. This spec is a dream come true!
@UltimateGamerCC
@UltimateGamerCC Жыл бұрын
Aug is definitely gonna be popular in PUGs, i just hope that classes dont take a dive of nerfs in the process.
@megacodeheals722
@megacodeheals722 Жыл бұрын
So will Augment spec be viable for questing /leveling or will we have to go into Devo spec ??
@crutchfield7231989
@crutchfield7231989 Жыл бұрын
I've been testing it on ptr a bunch seems like mastery crit gonna be the best stats and currently at 442 ilvl I'm giving around 1800 primary stat with procs buffing that by 400 from neltharion trinket and giving baseline 16% verse after nerf bumped up to like 22% verse on spoils use this class was giving the people I tested it with upwards of 100k DPS in aoe (100-150k usually) and in single target was around like 40-60k This class is absolutely bonkers and I love it
@treyroy755
@treyroy755 Жыл бұрын
My demo lock is going to make some augmentation evoker friends...
@HOBOTw1tcH
@HOBOTw1tcH Жыл бұрын
I don’t really like the idea of this spec. Idk I just feel like it’s going to be more so of the “you didn’t have an evoker buffing you? You suck” Idk it just feels like it’s the PI issue just magnified. Why not just make these buffs all random dps targets? Or does it become you bring 1 evoker for every 4 dps to raid? 2 tank, 4 healer, 3 evoker, 11 dps? So then in theory every dps gets buffs I’m some form or another.
@mythslayer1579
@mythslayer1579 Жыл бұрын
Deep breath blunders occur more often than i care to admit lol.
@chinaman1
@chinaman1 Жыл бұрын
I feel like at the end of the day it evens out for contents like M+ and mythic raiding. Since the number of players are fixed. Only 5 and 20, you bring in only 3 dps for m+ so even if you have 2 top tier dps, + augmentation evoker, it will still work out to be the same as 3 dps. Provided if all the buffs are pressed at the right times etc. It might actually be worst off brining Aug evoker for raid, since some of the buffs affects only a few players. If all the buffs affects everyone then it would be very clutch to bring 1 Aug evoker.
@Blubbpaule
@Blubbpaule Жыл бұрын
"Prevents your death in this one" - Just imagine some random evoker next to you randomly falling over because his another self in another timeline used this passive and diverted it to your neighbour.
@Lightdark1992
@Lightdark1992 Жыл бұрын
in m+ it will effect both tank and healer too, it only says it prefers dps.....so if there is no option to prefer, it will simply go to everyone else no?
@treecat125
@treecat125 Жыл бұрын
Definitely think it'll be possible for some teams to play without a healer. I am very curious how this will work out in the next MDI.
@MrCellus27
@MrCellus27 Жыл бұрын
This spec is gonna be super interesting
@phonepolice
@phonepolice Жыл бұрын
I wish that it functioned like disc priest with atonement for granting Ebon Mights. Ebon Might itself would be like radiance but as you said prescience and other direct buffs should also be able to interact with the class primary buff. I also don’t love that Shifting sands, the vers buff, is entirely passive and only sent out on empower casts. Having some way of directing it would just feel better.
@mythslayer1579
@mythslayer1579 Жыл бұрын
Ian’s (Eons) everywhere rejoice!
@tomxd8000
@tomxd8000 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr. Atnos!
@alerian4752
@alerian4752 Жыл бұрын
breath of Ians
@synchrxny
@synchrxny Жыл бұрын
Breath of Ians
@meesy498
@meesy498 Жыл бұрын
Dude, whose Ian and whats wrong with his breath? 🤣 much love Dratnos keep up the great vids man
@daniellucas5522
@daniellucas5522 Жыл бұрын
17:40 - 70 yard range on rescue is an absurd amount of movement in a pinch. 21:00 - Prescience in raid is probably gonna be something you dish out when someone pops a CD rather than as a maintenance buff on a specific target. They have laid out that there will be hooks for addons to pick up aug damage properly, so ebon might/mastery/prescience should all be properly assignable. The only bits that won't easily behave are the motes and any procs or effects based on abilities critting with prescience.
@SirKenNorth
@SirKenNorth Жыл бұрын
I think the big flaw with design like this is that it's either OP and you MUST have it in your group, or it's hot trash and nobody will bring one.
@dbldekr
@dbldekr Жыл бұрын
The trap is that it'll be both. A good group will play around it pretty hard and get huge results. A bad group will end up with their worst players getting the buffs half the time and it'll look pretty terrible.
@alihorda
@alihorda Жыл бұрын
Also how devastation will compete?
@Freestyle80
@Freestyle80 Жыл бұрын
I was distracted on other screen for a bit and then Dratnos suddenly said 'breath of Ion' i was so confused lol.
@TwiggyHarding
@TwiggyHarding Жыл бұрын
So it’s basically a bard without the music aspect?
@PontusAG
@PontusAG Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to try augmentation out. I also would love to have one pocketing me as havoc DH. I’m assuming essence break and eye beam gets the reduction from the motes :)
@forcefulstorm6187
@forcefulstorm6187 Жыл бұрын
Prolly Meta
@Nickystr1x
@Nickystr1x Жыл бұрын
Maybe an effect similar to atonement for Ebon Might distribution where you use a spell to buff a target and make it guaranteed to be chosen as one of the targets?
@willcolon5612
@willcolon5612 Жыл бұрын
I thought this might be a good side talent for the wyrnstone, 2 point talent, at max lets you hand out 4 stones, stone holders gaurnteed ebon might.
@dark9nine
@dark9nine Жыл бұрын
Hey Devastation evoker mains, say good bye to your raid spot.
@vaels5682
@vaels5682 Жыл бұрын
Agree seems they have almost no vers scaling. Which would be very strange in pvp since nearly all the gear is stacked with vers. I suspect they will start showing up in rated battlegrounds and then people will realize a lot of pve gear will be useful on them stacking haste mastery
@nono7105
@nono7105 Жыл бұрын
Breath of Ians ...
@theboogermcnuggets867
@theboogermcnuggets867 Жыл бұрын
how is nobody talking about he way he pronounces eons
@Drakshl
@Drakshl Жыл бұрын
If you can get 30S off every breath you can sync up with the 1.5/3 min gang, which if you are playing with a couple of demo locks might ascend to another plane of reality
@arijnr5124
@arijnr5124 Жыл бұрын
damn .. I think it was a bad idea designing this kind of spec it sounds cool but brings in tons of problems , wouldnt a chunky evoker tank spec be better?
@thedr8993
@thedr8993 Жыл бұрын
Comment for the algo! Keep up the great content!
@madsboandersen5316
@madsboandersen5316 Жыл бұрын
Augmentation seems a lot more manageable in m+ content, since most of the buffs are so short CDs and automated onto players in party.
@Andarath69
@Andarath69 Жыл бұрын
They really missed the mark on this spec. Should have been a tank spec.
@jonathansoderin751
@jonathansoderin751 Жыл бұрын
Stretch time should be on the class tree tbh
@crutchfield7231989
@crutchfield7231989 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't let u put timelessness on tanks btw
@adyenlichtwachter6684
@adyenlichtwachter6684 Жыл бұрын
/rename spec: Augmentation Evoker to Trinketpopper Evoker -I likeys -debug value (99)
@wolfwhisperer580
@wolfwhisperer580 Жыл бұрын
So disappointed that this isnt a tank spec
@FaetterTjald
@FaetterTjald Жыл бұрын
And we welcome the new Dragon Bard for WoW xD
@Namarot
@Namarot Жыл бұрын
As a warlock, warcraftlogs is already bricked, I'm looking forward to everyone else having to deal with it as well.
@jesuscollazo4303
@jesuscollazo4303 Жыл бұрын
So you can have room to add all those classes in .
@datmeern8404
@datmeern8404 Жыл бұрын
They just need to make the 4 nearest allys buff component just hit your group.
@Maddawg1984
@Maddawg1984 Жыл бұрын
I think Ebon Might would be better in Raid if its targets was selected by group like how you put your Melee dps in a Enhancement group to get windfury.
@Anoradord
@Anoradord Жыл бұрын
idk who Ian is. But they need to let him know they are bottling and using his breaths in wow
@JpDeltell
@JpDeltell Жыл бұрын
Do you think we could see multiple in a comp for RWF?
@balhatchet
@balhatchet Жыл бұрын
"breath of ians" is killing me xD except I know Drat knows he's saying it wrong to bait comments exactly like this, And Ian has about twenty different 'correct' spellings, including Ion and Eion, which aren't exactly far off
@artix7018
@artix7018 Жыл бұрын
they should just make this like windfury group
@Brightside187
@Brightside187 Жыл бұрын
Breath of Ion Hazikostas
@Brightside187
@Brightside187 Жыл бұрын
Spoilers, it smells like lady parts
@staatiatwork
@staatiatwork Жыл бұрын
The buffing 4 nearest allies is kinda bullshit. Why is it not "Beacon of Light" style like the Holy Pala does but for 4 targets??
@itspapoose5060
@itspapoose5060 Жыл бұрын
i mean to have a dps that isnt focused on dpsing him/herself needs to bring significant buffs to others dps in order to even find a slot in mythic+ idk how you manage that and still have the spec considered "balanced". I mean we're talking it has to make those other 2 dps effectively doing the dmg of another person or more. This spec will either be so bad no1 brings it to the content or it is so broken no1 will go without one. I don't think either is "healthy". I hope i'm wrong?
@bpmiller87
@bpmiller87 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious --- what would the M+ scene look like if it was a 6-man group? I too am concerned that there is way too large of a disparity between classes that get instant invited and those that get serial declined when trying to LFG. I have no idea, but I wonder if adding another slot help combat some of this or if that is moving in the wrong direction.
@Jay-407
@Jay-407 Жыл бұрын
That’s the first thing I thought of. As a warlock, I might just reroll
@HimerosTeviot
@HimerosTeviot Жыл бұрын
Speaking to his comment on versatility, not everything has to be important, special, included, desirable. The only reason vers "needs" to have more added value for Augmentation is that, versatility is loaded on Evoker tier as well as obviously PvP equipment. Speaking of PvP, this spec will be trash. Possible being viable in 3v3 with 2 DPS and maybe in RBGs. The versatility and PvP dilemmas will drive Blizzard into shifting the class into one of three directions: over powered buffs, increased healing, or increased damage. The later two are more likely and will come at the expense of the buffs (meaning nerfs) which, will gradually shift the spec into yet another healing or DPS spec with mediocre buffs.
@n3v3r1s4
@n3v3r1s4 Жыл бұрын
buffer spec, cool, wow hasnt really had those before i guess
@zevahc3928
@zevahc3928 Жыл бұрын
It's going to be tough when you have ranged dps who like to stand outside your max range. I don't think you can stack Augmentation Evokers without losing dps unless you have a large group of high dpsers. I'm thinking 1 or 2 per 10 dps.
@jackmckenzie597
@jackmckenzie597 Жыл бұрын
Major downside at the moment is going oom on single target because of living flame within the first minute of target dummy
@somethinggold187
@somethinggold187 Жыл бұрын
Can you ebon might > time skip > ebon might to get 8 targets ?
@crutchfield7231989
@crutchfield7231989 Жыл бұрын
Blistering scales huge value on clothies in nelth lair cuz the pelters
@tomsettle2631
@tomsettle2631 Жыл бұрын
1 lock 3 aug 1 tank going to be broken
@A_Pocket_Theory
@A_Pocket_Theory Жыл бұрын
DRATTY-N!!!
@RamblingJosh
@RamblingJosh Жыл бұрын
Augment that like button
@kkin4438
@kkin4438 Жыл бұрын
I think this is a mistake to implement right now. Maybe if they had set up more support dps specs before this point, then I would feel that this is a good time to add it, but because it's the only one basically, I'm worried that it's just going to be always taken for higher content. It's a cool idea, but I personally feel this would be better to be implemented in maybe another xpac where they introduce support specs for other classes as well so there is some variety.
@thechartech
@thechartech Жыл бұрын
Rumor has it that they're planning to do more based on how well this goes during 10.1.5/10.2
@sternwind8407
@sternwind8407 Жыл бұрын
Blizzard .. Bring the player not the class ... Then Blizzard - Let's make a spec that will have a guaranteed spot in raids and M+ .. Garbage this will ruin raids and M+
@Lyscian420
@Lyscian420 Жыл бұрын
My only complaint is that your clog is so scuffed. xD
@Cerfpve
@Cerfpve Жыл бұрын
Imagine trying to play this spec optimally if you're not an addon gamer.
@Jay-407
@Jay-407 Жыл бұрын
As a warlock, my odds of getting an invite went down to 5%
@m_rod9562
@m_rod9562 Жыл бұрын
As a Shadow Priest, my odds of being invited are still the same. PI is love, PI is life.
@liamelphick7414
@liamelphick7414 Жыл бұрын
EE-ons not Ians @Dratnos tsk tsk
@mafic6181
@mafic6181 Жыл бұрын
This seems like it’s going to lead to having 3-4 Augmentation Evokers in RWF, one for each group of DPS. Might be wild.
@LeTtRrZ
@LeTtRrZ Жыл бұрын
Breath of EE ons.
@nochillkowa9493
@nochillkowa9493 Жыл бұрын
Mythic raid vs 1 tank & 19 augmentation coming
@TheGImp1214
@TheGImp1214 Жыл бұрын
ayo baby girl let me give you my WYRM STONE
@soulsharts
@soulsharts Жыл бұрын
I think creating this spec is the wrong direction to take the game. Negative consequences incoming.
@speedymcrunfast3
@speedymcrunfast3 Жыл бұрын
Weyrnstone becomes a soulstone for non-boss encounters during m+. if you die you release and pop back to the action with the stone.
@Shiftingdead
@Shiftingdead Жыл бұрын
Basically a Bard.
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