August 2018 Q&A

0:38 - Have you ever had your AK's front sight get caught up in a barrier or obstacle?
1:55 - Ian - Do you think the AK ever had an open bolt format in it's conceptual stages of development?
3:00 - What would rather carry, the Type 38 or Type 99 Arisaka?
3:40 - What makes the M1 Garand so good?
5:47 - Karl - What firearms do you recommend for someone looking to get into cowboy firearms?
7:57 - Have you ever experiened any issues or stoppages at a match due to enviroment?
9:35 - Do you have any plans to mud test the M27 IAR?
10:17 - This will get buried, but is there any central place to find where you post every new video? Facebook, youtube, full30, etc?
11:24 - Why aren't there straight pull sniper rifles?
12:35 - Court ruled in favor of a man posting data to 3D print firearms online.
15:32 - How did you co-witness your red dot on the Hudson H9?
16:22 - Why isn't the ZH-29 style of front magazine catch used in more weapons?
16:58 - Can you to the best of your knowledge explain the history of the armsen OEG and similar operating sights?
19:14 - Hey guys! What is the best piece of firearms advice you’ve ever received? Thanks for all the great content!
19:43 - I would like to know your thoughts on the AR10?
20:46 - Repeat: Can we see a WWSD mud test?
21:31 - Why do we continue to see non-aperture iron sights on combat rifles after the P14?
22:50 - What do you guys think about the rapid decline of the popularity of the 40 S&W?
24:58 - Karl, Ian- have either of you played with a Walther P99/PPQM1?
26:01 - Best rifles that aren't an AR15?
26:47 - What are your thoughts on hanguards with integrated bipods as far as weight and utlility vs complexity and practicality?
28:55 - New to Patrion and haven’t watched all of the Q&As so forgive me if this has been asked and answered. What is your take on the grip pod?
29:49 - Did you ever get in touch with Franklin armory and if so when are we gonna see some reformation run and gun?
31:33 - Karl you’ve stated that you’d take a modern lever gun in .357 MAG, why .357 MAG instead of other revolver calibers like .44MAG or .500 S&W?
32:56 - How much influence do you think you are having on modern multi-gun competition?
33:46 - Do binary triggers have any use in 2-gun?
33:56 - Would you guys still like to check out an Ohio Ordnance Works Heavy counter assault rifle? If so let me know and we can schedule it.
34:48 - Please discuss weight and balance as part of getting a rifle "just right" to make most goldilocks happy for good handling in diverse situations.
36:03 - With your alternative history lever gun project, doesn’t the lack of training for the average Calvary troop on the frontier negate a lot of the advantages of the combined arms concept. In that the troopers can’t effectively employ it?
36:52 - Do either of you see any utility in the more modern versions of the m60?
37:45 - Now that you have broken GWACS what would you substitute for the lower now that it’s going to be some time before they redo the molds. I was thinking a Brownells retro Lower with an A1 stock.
38:51 - For your WWSD builds, you were both limited 14.5 with a pinned flash hider for the shortest legal(non-sbr) barrel length you could go. If those legal limitations did not exist, would you have gone for a shorter barrel, making the gun lighter and more maneuverable?
39:50 - For your WWKD: You mentioned in hard as hell 2 gun that the ammo selection is pretty crap. I would agree, quality 5.45 is pretty hard to get in the United States. However, have you considered looking into getting an AK in 5.56 as part of it's evolution? The action and system of the AK-74 platform is left untouched, but you get the advantage of quality ammo. Your thoughts on the system and evolution?
40:58 - Have either of you, fine gentlemen, handled or fired a double stacked .45 acp 1911 styled firearm (such as "legendary" para-ordnance p-14), and what are your oppinion of them.
41:47 - What strategies have you employed to mitigate extreme handguard temperatures when competing in the AZ sun?
42:22 - Karl- Have you determined the cause of the malfunctions you had with your H9 at Hard as Hell 2 Gun?
43:06 - Any news on doing Tiger Valley again?
44:44 - Will there be a desert brutality 2019?
44:54 - At what point does a rifle stop being practical and become a "gamer gun"?
45:26 - In today's world, do you think that videos of action shooting sports (2 gun, 3 gun, IDPA, SASS, etc...) are probably most effective tools for getting new people interested in firearms?
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[@mountainhobo]

7:12 "It is ironic that all those quintessentially iconic American guns are all made in Italy" - Considering it took Italians with Sergio Leone to revive American western and take it to the new heights, it actually makes sense.

[@ME-hm7zm]

Tariffs on Italian gun imports - bring them home!

[@mountainhobo]

M E "Tariffs on Italian gun imports - bring them home!" -- They are home. Those are Italian companies. Don't blame smart people for figuring out how to execute on a business opportunity. We have our own revolver makers, so go here: www.smith-wesson.com/revolvers and change "Action" drop down to "Single Action". Tell me how many you see.

[@mountainhobo]

Then you can go here: ruger.com/search/ , change Type to Single-Action Revolver, Caliber to 357 Magnum, and see a long list. So that tells us: (1) There is a domestic manufacturer, and you can buy it if you like (2) S&W does not see a business justification for getting into a rather small CASS market.

[@mountainhobo]

"I like top-breaks." -- One day I will get a Schofield or maybe even a Webley, but I am just not sure if anyone makes replicas of a Webley in a useful caliber. "two Rugers and an Uberti 1873, all in .357" -- Curious, is this because people end up shooting .38 Special out of them anyway? I guess it is cheaper than .45 Colt if one does not reload. Does Uberti 1873 work well with .38 Special? I hear some .357 lever actions are not thrilled about .38 Specials.

[@caseybrown5183]

Love my Garands - all the same reasons you list. They are a joy to shoot. Obsolescent, but not quite obsolete. The CMP offerings are also a fantastic bargain in a unique program. Pretty cool when you can have a battle rifle delivered to your front door.

[@Joel-pg9sm]

My 1 ounce rifle is great but it keeps blowing away in the breeze.

[@chzzyg2698]

I used to be an armorer in the Army, and I worked with AR's more than anything else. I know the platform pretty well. Better than most. For the life of me, I will never understand how gun guys can get so upset by hearing that an AR, is an AR, is an AR. They're all the same. Only difference is brand name and materials used; and smaller technical details such as gas port to barrel size. Other than that, AR parts are all made to the same milspec standards, and fit together with minimal smithing and tooling. There is no reason whatsoever to mud test every AR out on the market, or even a quarter of them. They're all the same. You can take an AR from the 80's and fit todays parts to it. I totally get the cringe, Karl.

[@Roberc7]

Timestamps 0:38 - Have you ever had your AK's front sight get caught up in a barrier or obstacle? 1:55 - Ian - Do you think the AK ever had an open bolt format in it's conceptual stages of development? 3:00 - What would rather carry, the Type 38 or Type 99 Arisaka? 3:40 - What makes the M1 Garand so good? 5:47 - Karl - What firearms do you recommend for someone looking to get into cowboy firearms? 7:57 - Have you ever experiened any issues or stoppages at a match due to enviroment? 9:35 - Do you have any plans to mud test the M27 IAR? 10:17 - This will get buried, but is there any central place to find where you post every new video? Facebook, youtube, full30, etc? 11:24 - Why aren't there straight pull sniper rifles? 12:35 - Court ruled in favor of a man posting data to 3D print firearms online. 15:32 - How did you co-witness your red dot on the Hudson H9? 16:22 - Why isn't the ZH-29 style of front magazine catch used in more weapons? 16:58 - Can you to the best of your knowledge explain the history of the armsen OEG and similar operating sights? 19:14 - Hey guys! What is the best piece of firearms advice you’ve ever received? Thanks for all the great content! 19:43 - I would like to know your thoughts on the AR10? 20:46 - Repeat: Can we see a WWSD mud test? 21:31 - Why do we continue to see non-aperture iron sights on combat rifles after the P14? 22:50 - What do you guys think about the rapid decline of the popularity of the 40 S&W? 24:58 - Karl, Ian- have either of you played with a Walther P99/PPQM1? 26:01 - Best rifles that aren't an AR15? 26:47 - What are your thoughts on hanguards with integrated bipods as far as weight and utlility vs complexity and practicality? 28:55 - New to Patrion and haven’t watched all of the Q&As so forgive me if this has been asked and answered. What is your take on the grip pod? 29:49 - Did you ever get in touch with Franklin armory and if so when are we gonna see some reformation run and gun? 31:33 - Karl you’ve stated that you’d take a modern lever gun in .357 MAG, why .357 MAG instead of other revolver calibers like .44MAG or .500 S&W? 32:56 - How much influence do you think you are having on modern multi-gun competition? 33:46 - Do binary triggers have any use in 2-gun? 33:56 - Would you guys still like to check out an Ohio Ordnance Works Heavy counter assault rifle? If so let me know and we can schedule it. 34:48 - Please discuss weight and balance as part of getting a rifle "just right" to make most goldilocks happy for good handling in diverse situations. 36:03 - With your alternative history lever gun project, doesn’t the lack of training for the average Calvary troop on the frontier negate a lot of the advantages of the combined arms concept. In that the troopers can’t effectively employ it? 36:52 - Do either of you see any utility in the more modern versions of the m60? 37:45 - Now that you have broken GWACS what would you substitute for the lower now that it’s going to be some time before they redo the molds. I was thinking a Brownells retro Lower with an A1 stock. 38:51 - For your WWSD builds, you were both limited 14.5 with a pinned flash hider for the shortest legal(non-sbr) barrel length you could go. If those legal limitations did not exist, would you have gone for a shorter barrel, making the gun lighter and more maneuverable? 39:50 - For your WWKD: You mentioned in hard as hell 2 gun that the ammo selection is pretty crap. I would agree, quality 5.45 is pretty hard to get in the United States. However, have you considered looking into getting an AK in 5.56 as part of it's evolution? The action and system of the AK-74 platform is left untouched, but you get the advantage of quality ammo. Your thoughts on the system and evolution? 40:58 - Have either of you, fine gentlemen, handled or fired a double stacked .45 acp 1911 styled firearm (such as "legendary" para-ordnance p-14), and what are your oppinion of them. 41:47 - What strategies have you employed to mitigate extreme handguard temperatures when competing in the AZ sun? 42:22 - Karl- Have you determined the cause of the malfunctions you had with your H9 at Hard as Hell 2 Gun? 43:06 - Any news on doing Tiger Valley again? 44:44 - Will there be a desert brutality 2019? 44:54 - At what point does a rifle stop being practical and become a "gamer gun"? 45:26 - In today's world, do you think that videos of action shooting sports (2 gun, 3 gun, IDPA, SASS, etc...) are probably most effective tools for getting new people interested in firearms?

[@DuringDark]

Did you look in the description..?

[@Roberc7]

The timestamps were not in the description when i watched it. They copied my comment and put it in the description.

[@smashingartful]

Doing God's work. Thank you!

[@Magzoxo]

*Y'all intensifies*

[@jacobfarley434]

What Would Stoner Do Raffles

[@edm240b9]

Ian reminds me of a much smarter Jeff Foxworthy when he talks like that

[@DerLoladin]

Is there a timestamp for this?

[@Magzoxo]

At 34:48

[@provosttq2051]

you ain't gonna just scroll on by without sayin' "howdy" is ya?

[@grantfitz2047]

Grip pods are good for one thing. Keeping your rifle off the floor in the chow hall down range.

[@bebopwing1]

My girl friend: "what's the point if there's no doggo?"

[@lukedealberdi3713]

Marry her.

[@Jeremiah90526]

I agree with Luke, get a ring on her finger.

[@alexvogel610]

With regards to the Bindin concept/OEG sights, we used a similar method in the army, combining a PVS14 on the left eye and a CCO68 on the right eye. If you had an issue with or just didn't want to turn on your PEQ, you could point shoot with NODs on and be reasonably accurate for CQB ranges at night. Not really necessary, we did it occasionally

[@Minuteman_Medic]

Video games definitely got me into guns. I played a lot of the Modern Warfare series and thought all the guns in the game were so cool. I remember seeing a video about the Scar 16 on KZbin and thinking "holy shit, I can own the guns in MW2?"

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

Funnily enough, high schoolhistory class got me into guns. Upon the last lesson on WWII our teacher spent 90 minutes showing archive footage, interwievs with weterans, period propaganda, schematics, field manuals and the like. His enthusiasm was infectious.

[@max.lindgren]

There is one place where straight pull actions are generally used today: Biathlon. Not a rifle meant for anything other than sport but they do use straight pull because of the increased speed and ability to stay on target while cycling the action. This is mostly possible I think because of the small cartridge (22lr) that allows for a very short length of pull. This makes it possible to operate with two fingers on a lever placed close to the trigger.

[@1BigBen]

Time to do a WWKD Rifle, with all of variants of the ak out there, pick your own parts rear trunnion and what style of stock and front trunnion put into custom receiver flat or have made a custom milled receiver. sighting system and gas system (Optic Combo or red dot sight mounted where the rear sight is normally ) trigger (maybe the upcoming new Fostech Echo AK Trigger) barrel grips Caliber etc....

[@shanesizemore3654]

Did you not hear what they said about binary triggers?

[@alexandruianu8432]

Combo gas block - front sight, Draco length gas system, KNS gas piston, KOP replaces rear sight, Magpul AKM handguard, some solid stock with a QD mount, a safety with 2 tabs (one middle like a classic Krebs, one rearward for fast lefty operation), shortened pencil barrel with pinned FSC, all for a 5.45 or 5.56 AK.

[@kenhelmers2603]

I enjoy these Q&As a lot, thanks!

[@prepperpov5852]

Just in time to listen while on my way to the range!

[@TheMCD1989]

Yes someone else holds my belief that 357 is the perfect lever gun cartridge! My reasoning behind it though is from a practicality stand point, I own a 44 mag Marlin and a 444 Marlin. I love both those rifles, but I'd rather carry a 357 or 38 revolver as opposed to either of those calibers. I think a lever gun that could share a more than decent revolver cartridge is key, plus being able to plink with cheap 38s is a nice plus. I think everyone who is into firearms should own one lever gun, they are just an awesome classic!

[@5Y5T3N]

i dont have access to most firearms here in Aus so i watch the gun matches purely for entertainment. so far i havent found any other youtubers half as entertaining in their matches as you guys so i think you are right in saying you guys have a good idea of what to focus on/ your formula works

[@bigmike-]

Re: Apertures vs. Notch sites: Notch sights are easier to instinctively acquire a "fast picture" with. A tiny aperture sight is far more accurate, but does require more training to get comfortable with and more time to actually acquire the sight picture correctly. Remember, most rifles with notch sights were designed with the lowest common denominator in mind... and that means the lowest bar to entry to train your troops, and the lowest bar to entry to ensure that your troops are able to, at minimum, hit X targets over Y distance Z percent of the time, *and* they have to do both of those things (training and actual use) in the shortest time-frame to maximize their efficiency. The modern idea of "a soldier will live long enough to become proficient using better shoot techniques and practices" is just that - a modern idea. Notch sites spent the vast majority of their existence being used by countries who's forces were essentially minimally trained troops who weren't expected to live through more than a couple of engagements.

[@BlahGuyson]

Para double stack owner here - had one for about 6 years now, shot a few thousand thru it. It works SWELL for the first, say, 300 rounds, and after that starts to seize up. If you continually clean it between shooting sessions you can keep it running well, but you can't neglect it like you can a Glock or M&P. My Para remains my personal favorite pistol in my collection, but my Glock 21 will shoot circles around it in terms of reliability and ease of maintenance any day of the week.

[@RayW808]

You guys are the Felix and Oscar of gun channels, thank you for that.

[@tholdaranvilfury4633]

if you guys get enough questions, would you consider uploading two Q&A's per month? That would be awesome. or even like 1 per week would be awesome. i enjoy this video format.

[@Devin_Stromgren]

Its not that we don't think the WWSD rifle will pass the mud test, we just want to see you throw that gun that you worked so hard on in the mud.

[@wingracer1614]

My reason for buying a .40 sw handgun was solely due to the 10 round mag law. By the time I was both old enough and could afford a handgun, large cap mags were almost impossible to find. So my reasoning was why buy a 10 round 9mm when I could get the EXACT SAME gun with 10 rounds of .40? It was a no brainer. As soon as that ban ended, I got a Sig in 9mm.

[@rurouniad]

wingracer 16 to be fair. 10 rounds in a Glock 29 (compact 10mm) would be ok. 40sw can also be shot through it. My problem here is modern 9mm ammo makes 40sw less logical if starting fresh. Nobody should turn there 40 in if they already own one.

[@Zundfolge]

wingracer 16 , I agree, it was more the 94 AWB that launched the .40 into such huge popularity with LEO adoption being second. And as battousai07 alludes to, the only reason I stick with it is because I don't want to start over re-buying a bunch of the same guns I already have but in 9x19 (and if .40 ever gets as hard to find/expensive as .357sig I can always buy replacement barrels in 9x19 for most of them). As for the G29, its probably the least reliable gun Glock ever made.

[@srayacohen1944]

Regarding the question about the OEG sights, when I served in the IDF I had an M4 with M203 GL, eqquiped with Meprolight M21sight, along with OEG sight for the M203 that sits behind the M21. It worked great, although it take a little time to get used to it but when you do you can make really good hit at ranges of aoround 400m. In the end, I really liked it and I still do when I get to use it on reserve duty.

[@InexorWoW]

On a semi auto AK you can engage the safety and still cycle the bolt, if you put the safety at about the full auto position it'll still allow you to cycle the bolt and have a reliable safety.

[@0214Bub]

I like that Ian mentioned the cost of ammo as a big consideration. Big consideration for me and it has greatly influenced my gun purchase decisions over the years.

[@danielchambliss3262]

Karl, I would agree with you whole-heartedly with your answer to the last question. Video games and movies were what first brought me into the firearms world. Rainbow Six 3 sticks out in particular. However, my interest in doing completions has completely stemmed from InRangeTV. You guys do an amazing job at make the sport look interesting and I love watching your videos. Keep up the good work.

[@theana86ar]

On the aperture sight vs leaf sight question i'd say more light, snow/water resistace, ease of use. Had my rk62 aperture sight once blocked by a snowflake... which wasn't nice... so on rain the aperture might accumulate a water coating more easily... if you know what i mean. It's a pain in the ass to find a stick to poke mud, sand or snow out of those apertures...

[@vigunfighter]

I think why the leaf sight stayed in use for so long is that an aperature sight has to be mounted close to the eye. That is going to be problematic on most bolt action military rifles with split recievers for the bolt handle to travel in.

[@r0b6011]

I regularly ran the front cover closed on m68 red dot when i was in the army. Very convenient for target acquisition

[@KATAKOTO69]

About notch and post sights, I read that the with the abakan's aperture sight and others of that type would constantly get filled with frost in days of intense snow and blizzard, that might be one of the reasons.

[@burnsboysaresoldiers]

There are straight pull sniper rifles. Blaser of Germany and Lynx of Finland both produce straight pull sniper rifles for military and police. Straight pull rifles are still popular in Europe because it’s the quickest firing method when semis aren’t available

[@soylentgreen7074]

I’m still curious about how much better a 276 m1 would be. Shame they had to stick with 30-06. Imagine a lighter updated 276 BAR, Browning 1919, etc.

[@MarvinCZ]

My thinking with the ZH-29 magazine catch was, that it turns the rock-in magazine into a straight-in magazine. You still have to rock the magazine to remove it, but that's easier than when inserting.

[@silentspace7201]

My first pistol was a $240 trade in M&P in .40 (it is designed to handle .40 pressure btw) I had gotten some trade in JHPs to go with it too, 50 round boxes of 165 gr Ranger T (more impressive than any 9mm round in gel testing I have seen) for $18 each. While I now prefer a G17 for all the cheap practice FMJ, 9mm Glock mag options and slightly faster split times (getting good and staying that way matters more than the bullet) I still think .40 S&W is a interesting round with JHP weights as low as 135 gr generating .357 Sig velocity up to 200 gr hard cast bullets.

[@MrDerushingo]

Cool reminder of better times....also the "Now that you have broken GWACS..." has aged better than any fine wine could dream of.🤣

[@leathery420]

I mean technically it's still co-witness if the red dot and the irons don't totally line up. It's called lower 1/3 co-witness vs absolute co-witness and it has the benefit of you not needing to line them up which can be detracting in a shooting environment instead of just using either or. John Lovell has a video explaining why he is a fan of the lower 1/3 co-witness over absolute. Though it does come down to preference.

[@wadekirby8575]

The application I see for Franklin armory's straight rifling is in non SBR semi-automatic SMG conversions.

[@Jackedhobbit]

The grip pod is not meant to be used as a bipod. It’s a kick stand for when you need to set your rifle down in the chow hall or motor pool.

[@DrewEdwardBacklas]

Regarding the Binden concept: I took part in a live fire training event back in the day with my poorly supplied guard unit who issued pvs14 but no peq15. I found that I was able to utilize the occluded eye concept with the nvg over my left eye and my right eye looking through the acog. Worked better than I thought it would and I was able to successfully engage silhouettes to 150m or so at night. My brain would superimpose the acog reticle I saw with my right eye over the green image I saw with my left.

[@happyflea]

No time-codes in the description?

[@Aperr896]

Thanks for answering my question about the IAR. I don't question the reliability of the AR platform in its DI guise, but I'm curious if the addition of a gas piston introduces a potential point of failure that should be considered in the overall evaluation of the firearm. Again, thanks for answering the question, and I can't wait until I'm able to say Carl cleaned out pic rails just to satisfy my curiosity.

[@CountArtha]

21:31 - I always figured it was the same reason you see magazine cut-offs on early repeating rifles: The European armies wanted their soldiers to fire on command instead of using their own discretion. An open sight encourages you to get a "good enough" sight picture, shoot, and repeat - but looking through a rear sight aperture makes you focus on that one target and wait for the best shot. So the generals might have thought of aperture sights as a bit of a moral hazard, making every soldier think his job was to be a sharpshooter and slowing a regiment's rate of fire.

[@MarkiusFox]

"Can you to the best of your knowledge explain the history of the armsen OEG and similar operating sights?" For the STYLE of aiming, the ACOG stresses use of the Bindon Aiming Concept, and that concept is generally a good thing to do regardless due to eye strain that many people get when you shut or mostly squint one eye. If you need to squint, squint both.

[@themerryprankster9647]

Regarding the M 60. The Danish military is using the new version and from all reports is quite happy with it. No doubt the weight or lack of is one of the reasons why.

[@ZAKW42]

For AZ heat I coat with rubber and paint not-black. Rubber helps some.

[@timknapper6990]

My first battle rifle is a m1a with a 20" barrel wood stock and a super fun metal but-plate.

[@SNOUPS4]

Karl nailed it for the final question

[@GRMGR1]

I think one big reason for the initial popularity of the 40 cal was the clinton assault weapon ban. In those times it was logical that if you were limited to 10 rounds they’d might as well be bigger.

[@danielkonig3137]

For the love of all that is holy... Thank you for that P7 comment... Great weapon, would love to see a modern take on that platform.

[@romeoquach300]

I agree with carl on the last point- my entire shooting passion came from when i played metal gear solid back in 2002

[@nathanringerwole9549]

Actually the safety lever on an AK Is just long enough to where when it is engaged in the safe position cycling the bolt removes the live round from the chamber. but does not let it travel far enough to strip another round from the magazine

[@ZombieWilfred]

Incorrect. Go and try it, it will do no such thing. You cannot eject the round from the chamber of an AK with the safety on... At least not with any of the ones I have used (many) and heard of. The bolt doesn't travel back far enough with the safety on.

[@ZAKW42]

The FBI justification report I read said that 9mm was simply cheaper, got within a certain percentage of .40s&w power, and was easier to train new shooters with, +2 rounds. It's not a better cartridge, even with new load tech, it's just logistically easier, just like sticking with 556.

[@Front-Toward-Enemy]

You just explained why 9mm is better than 40 s&w while attempting to defend the 40 s&w.

[@ZAKW42]

@@Front-Toward-Enemy No, I didn't label one as better, and I didn't mark the 40 as superior in every way. It's the same discussion as with 6.8spc/6.5g/300blk vs 556: 556/9mm are cheaper to load and mass produce(billions of dollars for major disbursement), and hold more per mag than other options, with less recoil. There is no denying the other options have more energy, more barrier penetrating potential, and improved ballistics over range, but they don't make sense for mass general use, 556/9mm do.

[@ZAKW42]

My point was that for a large entity cheaper and easier to train with ammunition makes sense; smaller units who can put more into training with a more effective cartridge do so, and it makes more sense for them. Not all FBI is switching to 9mm, DHS still uses 40, Air marshals have a variety of options they can choose from to suit their situation. Pick any non-generalised SF military group, and they can choose other than 556/9mm if they need to. 556/9mm are great because they are just effective enough and cheap.

[@Front-Toward-Enemy]

I never said that you did it intentionally.

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

Everything is a compromise in engineering.

[@edm240b9]

Denmark seems interested in the E6 as well

[@soylentgreen7074]

Only worthwhile double stack 45’s with decent ergos and mag capacity are the fnx 45 and glock 21 with a +2 extension bringing both to 15 rounds. For a 45 weight,capacity and reliability are the best with these 2. I personally prefer the fnx 45 for 45, and m9 variants for 9mm like the 92g so i can have better sights and decocker only.

[@Zundfolge]

But if you want a double stack 1911 specifically, the only option is STI.

[@soylentgreen7074]

Zundfolge dan wesson makes a good one as well. Good range guns but too heavy for anything practical.

[@loganhorne4310]

If you look at the foot pounds of energy, .40 is more powerful than both 9mm and .45. Also, bullet technology has helped the 40 just as much as it has helped the 9. Whether that translates into practical wounding power is up for debate, but I don't see anything obsolete about .40S&W.

[@tomisamish]

So far as the wwsd rifle goes that carbon fiber handguard has been unobtanium for me. I've been on the waiting list for one of those for several months.

[@shanesizemore3654]

Hmm. The design on that Chartreuse box looks suspiciously like the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch

[@jager6863]

"And the Lord spake, saying, First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then, shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shalt be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shalt be three. Four shalt thou not count, nor either count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in my sight, shall snuf it."

[@diamondflaw]

Globus cruciger

[@KwansuMyDudes]

I was under the impression that the Japanese wanted to switch to a 7.7 rifle for logistics purposes due to their machine guns being chambered for 7.7. I'm pretty sure they made 7.7 Type 38s too but decided to just design a new rifle around the cartridge instead, giving us the Type 99.

[@SpaceCowboyfromNJ]

See that would make sense if it were not for the fact that their machine guns actually used a different 7.7 cartridge, that was semi rimmed.

[@razor1uk610]

"The real confusion and division came with the weapons. Not only did they develop them independently, but they used a great number of different guns individually and used a variety of ammunition. For example, both used derivatives of the Vickers machine gun for fixed aircraft mounting, but the IJN used a copy of the .303 British ammo while the Army used their own 7.7x58SR ammo. (they also had a host of flexible guns including the .303 Lewis and copies of the MG 15 using the German 7.92x57mm Mauser cartridge) Both developed derivatives of the .50 Browning gun, the Navy with their 13mm type 3 used the 13.2x99mm Hotchkiss ammo (identical to the .50 BMG except for the caliber and ammunition) while the Army used the less powerful 12.7x81SR .5" Vickers export (also used by Italy). The Navy also used a version of the MG 131. The Navy used 20mm Oerlikon cannons in their Type 99-1/2 (-1 is the FF, -2 is the FFL) while the Army had their Ho-5 derivative of the Browning as well as the heavy and slow firing Ho-1 and Ho-3 cannon. They had 3 different 30mm guns: the Ho-155 (scaled up Browning) while the Navy had their Oerlikon derived Type-2 and indigenous (and powerful) Type-5. The Army also used a number of even larger guns with their bulky (closed loop belt fed) 37mm Ho-203, .50 Browning pattern 37mm Ho-204, 40mm caseless Ho-301, and 57mm Ho-401." ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/japanese-army-vs-navy.15786/#post-423741

[@KwansuMyDudes]

Their machine guns used rimmed, semi-rimmed, and rimless. Not exclusively semi rimmed. Either way, it still makes more logistical since to use different variants of 7.7 rather than two totally different cartridges like 6.5 and 7.7.

[@Tubajock2]

I really want to see a carbon/Kevlar lay-up redesigned lower over the gwacs. I believe a true composite lay-up has merit, sadly no ones made one yet.

[@blackrifle3742]

gotta disagree, im relatively young and grew up playing shooter games but the reason i got into firearms initially was seeing some pretty bad stuff happen around my house. i went out when i turned 18 an got a Mav88 and the interest grew from there. great vid guys.

[@Darknessundso]

Just watched the video and i know its a bit late but to the question with the straight pull rifles: I think the Austailian issue a Blaser R93 Tac as there Sniper Rifle.

[@ianfurqueron5850]

Interesting thoughts about the influence of the shooting videos. As a former military brat and the son of a professional military historian, my general interest in guns was seeded at an early age. However, my more recent interest in actually acquiring more guns and shooting them comes directly from watching Forgotten Weapons and InRangeTV videos. TV/movie interest is probably limited to the P90 (thanks to StarGate SG1). I have never found first person shooter video games to be entertaining.

[@_f355]

Speaking of OEG, I was born slightly cross-eyed, it went away after a few years, but the neurons in my brain didn't actually wire in just right to combine the picture from both eyes into one, so I don't have the depth perception that most folks do and of course I can't use that kind of sight at all - at every particular moment I'm looking with one of my eyes, while the other is blacked out by the brain, so I can either see the dot or the target. Both eyes work just fine, I can consciously choose which one I'm looking with, it doesn't hinder me in my life at all, and in fact I'm a pretty okay shooter. I wonder what would have happened if I got issued one of those "scopes" in the military.

[@nate_thealbatross]

The 40sw, grip pod and other stuff is all examples of how trying to do two things at once often fails at both.

[@ImpartialBoy]

Isn´t the Blaser LRS 2 a straight-pull sniper rifle? That gun is in use with the Australian Military and various police units around the world.

[@tropixMw2]

but its not the straightpull that makes it accurate its the locking mechanism

[@PaulMauser]

ImpartialBoy That’s one rifle based on a hunting rifle with SOME military use and its straight pull action doesn’t make it any better. If people really want a quick rifle they’ll just use a semi auto.

[@RobertoDonatti]

A lot of European hunters use Blasers as they often need to fire a second shot as fast as they can.

[@RobertoDonatti]

You can't use automatic rifles for hunting in Europe

[@Karsliyu]

Depends on where in Europe, e.g. in Germany using an MR308 for hunting is perfectly legal as long as you don't load more than three rounds into the gun. (which is why there are 2-round magazines available for hunters)

[@slit555]

According to Small Arms Solutions, the M4’s 14.5 inch barrel was found to be the shortest they could go while remaining within an acceptable range of hearing damage per shot

[@jager6863]

The real reason is that the XM177e2 had already established and proven the carbine length gas system. The original flash hider/sound moderator filled with carbon and over time, the sound moderation effect was reduced and the decision was made to discard it. The 14.5" barrel was the shortest length that allowed for a bayonet to be affixed to the carbine when using a standard front site block and an A2 flash hider. I have heard a lot of "mumbo jumbo" regarding the 14.5" length, but its all about the bayonet.

[@derekbarclay4002]

I think for us old guys, interest in guns comes from a background of rural life, and hunting. Hopefully there are still young folks who get to experience these aspects of firearms...not just competition and target shooting. And you get to see a lot more interesting parts of our country thru hunting than people will ever see in almost any other shooting sport.

[@cprice2011]

I love you guys

[@drmaudio]

Concerning people watching two-gun because they have used those guns in video games, I would argue that such videos have helped to convert FPS players to competition shooters.

[@alexvogel610]

I would take exception to Karl's assertion that the 40 is an obsolescent cartridge; it's still throwing a bigger and heavier projectile at a similar speed to the 9mm, and the advances in bullet technology that have helped improve the 9mm have also the 40. While it's currently en vogue to libel the 40 as inferior or inadequate, I think that the more appropriate assessment is that the 40 is no longer clearly superior to the 9mm, so that given the cost in complexity, capacity, and money, it's no longer a superior platform to the 9mm. I have never been a 40 fan, but it does have it's place; I actually have two of them (well, one and a half); the first, one of the police trade-ins you mentioned. I low-balled an auction for a P226, mostly because I'd always wanted a P226, and I actually won and got a good deal. I was similarly able to get a good deal on ammo. It doesn't see nearly the amount of range time as my 9mm, but it is still an effective defensive handgun, especially as it's generally relegated to nightstand or glove box duty. There are better options, but I'm also not under-gunned when I shoot it. The other 40 is actually just a conversion slide that came with an inexpensive 10mm; it's nice to have the option, especially when 40 is the "cheap" ammo to shoot lol.

[@djohnson1981]

I agree, Alex, and also take issue with the "capacity of a 45 with the power of 9mm" comment. 40 only gives up a round or two of capacity next to the 9mm.

[@moosemaimer]

My XDm gets 16+1 with factory mags.

[@Liam-B]

It still isn't 10mm Auto.

[@djohnson1981]

And 10mm auto isn't 45 Winchester Magnum. It's all a balance of mag capacity, recoil energy and downrange power.

[@alexvogel610]

Yeah, but that's what the 10mm is for! (also, they don't make a P226 in 10mm!)

[@timk9727]

As a person who has made videos of competition I agree! Editing helps make it more interesting to look at

[@goatmoag]

Sar K2 45 acp double stack. Have a llama double stack 45 acp too that is extremely reliable.

[@Davidmoore-xy6wu]

I will agree for the time of ww2 the grande was a very fine rifle except in mud but it was really the first good high Power cartridge firing rifle that was semi auto

[@lizardodavinci]

It was definitely been video games and movies that got me interested in firearms, especially seeing as I live in Sweden and am not into hunting, hunting rifles & shotguns being the only kinds of guns common around here. From there I got into Forgotten Weapons and then InRange, but it has never really been a goal of mine to be a firearms owner myself. I guess I just like learning about them.

[@lizardodavinci]

Sweden is quite the restrictive country when it comes to firearm ownership, and to be perfectly honest I don't trust myself to be competent enough to safely handle one. I shot a full-auto AK on a rental range in Vietnam once and that was fun, but I don't trust myself in quite a few mundane matters, let alone owning and handling a lethal weapon.

[@nathancooper9932]

Ian, you confused me with the reference to "Enfield as unreliable." The first thing that came to memory was how quickly you ran the bolt on the M1917 Enfield not the L85A1 variant. Suggest to qualify any negative Enfield comment in the future to reference the L85A1.... Nice job as always. Thanks

[@simon_96]

all the cowboy action guns come from the same place is interesting because Taiwan have many companies making airsoft guns air guns and training blue guns and when they are shipped overseas very often it is branded by the importer maybe to cover up the bad reputation of some companies or to have some better value since stuff are cheaper here

[@burnsboysaresoldiers]

I’ve heard that argument for 9mm over .40 before. But anything you can do with projectiles and powders 9mm you could also do to a .40 yes?

[@keineahnung8696]

What is the typical diameter of an aperture sight on a military rifle?

[@ExUSSailor]

I know the reason I would like to see the M27 mud tested, is because of just how much HK droned on, and, on about how much better HK416 performed in mud, dirt, & water than the regular DI AR.

[@kyleno4mk27]

Karl: Ammo ... nailed it

[@mezzanoon]

Maybe I'm crazy but I couldn't find the response to Nicholas S: Is there any reason to use anything other than 9mm for pistols? That goes for competition and defense. I'd be super interested to hear your opinions too

[@Zundfolge]

If you're starting fresh, there's no reason to pick a .40 over 9x19. However if you're already invested in .40 there's really no reason to dump it and start over. The pros and cons of both calibers are just too close to really matter. The only little caveat is competition, 9mm is going to give you a noticeable advantage in competition over the .40 (lower recoil, larger capacity) unless you're shooting some weirdly scored matches that reduces the number of hits required for "big bore" calibers. Most of the .40 bashing you see recently is just as stupid as the "only useful caliber starts with a 4" idiocy we heard back in the 90s.

[@BIIGtony]

If you have legal magazine limitations you might consider to go with something bigger or if a 9mm for what ever reason is too big for you and you want to carry something smaller, there is also a reason because better to carry some smaller caliber (as long it's over the toy category) than not carrying at all. For competition - there is no reason what so ever to not go with 9mm.

[@ukrainianoomf]

I would love to see some HCAR content.

[@MadJustin7]

That was a pretty brief reaction to binary triggers. I wonder why they dislike them so much? Seem to me like a legal way to provide suppressive fire in conjunction with a drum or extended magazine.

[@cheroguy]

Ian has talked about it, his issue is a safety thing, if you have a malfunction with the first pull, and you let go your gun might grenade in your hands

[@T3hderk87]

And coming from someone who actually owns(as my very first handgun)..... A 40 s&w full size Springfield xd... They are expensive and not exactly fun to fire, especially since i had bought it prior to knowing that the pressures were insanely high in that chamber. Kinda wishing i had bought nine mm.

[@petesheppard1709]

Ammo control is not new. I remember seeing 'primer control' mentioned a good 20+ years ago, and 'ammo taxes' are regularly proposed.

[@Logovanni]

Sootch00 did a high volume shoot test of the H9 and had the same issue. He solved it with better lube.

[@scottsaylors1996]

M60 is such a fantastic machine gun

[@LoneRanger869]

17:42 The IDF uses OEG sights for the M203 on both the M16/M4 and the Tavor/X95. Its the Meptro GLS (grenade launching sight). www.meprolight.com/default.asp?catid=%7BFB082B33-316B-4335-BFDE-CB5789562D8C%7D&details_type=1&itemid=%7B74DEFDC2-6D08-4CAC-A9E3-7C38970775B2%7D

[@nate_thealbatross]

Ian, so will you be in France in late 2018? What region?

[@Endmass]

Re: AK front sights You CAN just press them off, no need to cut.

[@dvazquez5652]

So involving the government looking to regulate ammo once 3D printing becomes more common what about when we get to the ability to print ceaseless ammo with the bullet embedded in the casing itself (like the G11’s ammo)?

[@spectreQ]

we want time stamps!!!

[@adamtarbaux7769]

On the lever action I think that a well tuned marlin 1894 is as fast or faster than the Henry 1860 style action.

[@richardelliott9511]

Certainly a WELL tuned Marlin is a sweet running machine. But faster than a '73? Your comment got me thinking. Yes the Marlins can be made to run mighty fast but if they're faster than a 73 why aren't they more prevalent in SASS competition? After all they were much less expesive. Actually you did see more of them in the early days of cowboy action but less so now. I think the answer is two fold. The Marlins seem to me to have a lot more complex geometry going on in the action and are more difficult to tune plus the gunsmiths that truely know how to do it are few and far between. Where the winchester toggle link is simpler and the tuning is much more straight forward, so much so that even the home tinkerer can greatly improve the speed of opperation. And a number of gunsmiths have truely been able to perform magic on them including the short stroke kits and light weight replacement parts. The Marlins are also much more sensitive to cartridge length where the Winchesters are more forgiving. Would be interested in other opinions.

[@adamtarbaux7769]

Richard Elliott agreed, would also love to hear everyone else's opinion on the matter.

[@richardelliott9511]

@@adamtarbaux7769I believe another thing affecting the current showing of Marlins in competition is about the reported lack of QC of the new "Remlin" guns. Any newbe shooter that does any research into purchasing a Marlin will come across those negative reports and stear clear of those guns and move directly on to Uberti.

[@adamtarbaux7769]

Richard Elliott true even they improved greatly since that fiasco.

[@ryanvargas4889]

The 2nd question also could pertain to the model 8.

[@astrodudepsu]

As long as USPSA and action shooting with major power factor exists, 40 will exist.

[@Kyks2244]

Steyr m9 triangular sight ? Ever tried it ?

[@ksquared1363]

To be fair, I'm a complete neophyte when it comes to guns and shooting but my interest didn't exactly come from video games or movies. Maybe my interest in history was partly sparked by video games and war movies but at this point I appreciate the guns as their own thing and don't really care what video game they're in.

[@NRJenzenJones]

Straight-pull rifles are most definitely in service with military and police forces.

[@gatmanaug]

357 lever gun question depends on use. Were you are . Deer hunting bears in Alaska so on .

[@richardelliott9511]

I believe it was meant in the context of in the role of an AK or AR. Neither of which would be your first choice against polar bears but would be perfectly suitable for deer.

[@KennyCnotG]

Leaf sights look cheaper, faster and easier to make. No proof but that seems the only reason to me to keep them over aperture sights.