March 2019 Q&A

[@CommaV9414]

Clearly the most important development in the history of firearms is when we learned to print the punisher logo on everything

[@GameCritic101]

Every single Jeep in Texas

[@aspenfacer-valentine4397]

@@ReptilianLepton Those people are too busy bragging about the would-be thief/rapist/ax-murderer that they *definitely* stopped to deal with humdrum things like logic

[@TheeCambion]

The yankee Marshall approves.

[@___Nobody__]

Fawthur At first you’d think it’s, oh that guy it’s just a punisher fan so he put the skull on his lower, cool. Then after seeing it everywhere for past decade you realize Marvel either loves ARs or it’s just a running joke at this point

[@5000rgb]

I want a dustcover that says "Have a nice day" with a smiley face.

[@andyd2960]

Suppressors would almost be a requirement if they weren't controlled. It's a muffler for your gun.

[@Devin_Stromgren]

They are required for hunting in many countries in Europe.

[@michaeldavis4651]

We should promote this concept. Mufflers are required for vehicles...

[@pleasedontwatchthese9593]

If it just made it hearing safe but loud I would be ok with it.

[@alexanderluster402]

@@michaeldavis4651 We should not. I don't want to have to put the wear and tear on my gun that comes from using a suppressor.

[@michaeldavis4651]

@@alexanderluster402 I didn't word my comment well. They should not be required or restricted.

[@varusteleka]

Thank you Ian and Karl! We are deeply honoured and feel the same way about you guys! See you again soon :)

[@jaxxons11]

Ian: ‘I found thirteen mags’ Holy Shit! Honestly, this moment was gold.

[@bubbathedm]

I mean. that's the proper reaction to someone having 13 Valmet mags lol

[@Jeremiah90526]

@@bubbathedm Unless they are a Finn.

[@williamflowers9435]

Thou must bequeath said mags to our Lord for his Valmet so that he may return with them to the promised land of Varusteleka and dominateith Finnish Brutality, Amen 🙏

[@garandman8114]

The most important development was the French Assault Rock.

[@kmf1392]

Municion L.M.P banned in California

[@-Seeker-]

You can reach quite FAR with it.

[@beyondsingularity]

Grenade as a home defense weapon: "Honey, there is somebody downstairs!" "FIRE IN THE HOLE!!"

[@Swarm509]

You are assuming one does not have Claymores setup with remote detonators setup to a central point. At that point you don't even need to get out of bed if your home is invaded.

[@adams3844]

Correct phrase is Frag Out!. Dont want to get convicted on a technicality 😂

[@fien111]

"I don't plan to use a hand grenade for self-defense in my house. It'd be problematic" You can't get robbed if you blow up your stuff first!

[@jager6863]

Well if you have a big house a 40mm M203 might be appropriate - "Say Hello to my Little Friend".

[@dannya951]

Despite how eclectic Karl's interests are, I was still surprised that it was he, and not Ian, who had practiced fencing before, haha.

[@andyrihn1]

The machine gun restrictions also are the biggest hindrance to design. You CANNOT make an open bolt semiautomatic even though it’s the cheapest and easiest gun to make (outside a single shot)

[@Devin_Stromgren]

I agree. I also firmly believe that machine gun restrictions have been the single greatest hinderance to improvement in LMG and SAW design.

[@Tobascodagama]

I don't see why an open bolt semi-auto would be even remotely desirable to have.

[@andyrihn1]

Tobasco da Gama it’s cheap and simple to make

[@SgtKOnyx]

@@Tobascodagama price

[@wingracer1614]

@@andyrihn1 Yes well so is straight blowback and I would rather have a straight blowback carbine in a hot pistol caliber like 10mm or something than any open bolt semi. Open bolt only makes sense in full auto.

[@Karnegis]

One of the most important developments in firearms is rifling.

[@whyjay9959]

But we could've had a world of flechettes otherwise.

[@404Matt]

But Franklin Armory is using technology from tanks.

[@G-Mastah-Fash]

Chocolate Baby Brownings are a far greater achievement, though.

[@SgtKOnyx]

@@whyjay9959 you say that like it's a good thing lol

[@williestyle35]

Let us when that ammo comes out from Franklin Armory

[@mclang5932]

Hi Ian and Karl! It is really heart-warming to hear you compliment SO much Finish Brutality. Too bad I'm in no position to attend any of these, but I eagerly wait for your video of it. Thanks!

[@richardelliott9511]

Love the Q&A videos. I can watch each one multiple times and get something new every time. This time I really got Karl owning his Hi power match DQ. He didn't rant over the RO's actions, gun malf and or faulty ammo but took total responsibility for the situation. I wish this was more common in the shooting sports today and in society in general. Great integrity.

[@MrGrimm1911]

41:15 I've heard the manuals for fragmentation grenades usually include the statement: "Not for hostage situations." So using one for self-defense is probably contraindicated.

[@daa3417]

Not so sure, would you shoot a man holding a grenade with the pin removed?

[@MrGrimm1911]

@@daa3417 Depends on how close I am to solid cover, five seconds of fuse can be a long time.

[@daa3417]

I was thinking about hostage situation the person holding it is near the hostages guaranteeing collateral. Also hostage situations typically happen in close quarters so if a hostage has the grenade they are pretty safe.

[@MrGrimm1911]

​@@daa3417 It all boils down to: It sucks to be the hostage.

[@ZGryphon]

"Each grenade may be used only once." - _Battletech Technical Readout 3026_ (ca. 1986)

[@molochi]

Also the tacticool weapon of WWI has to be the m97 trench shotgun. Short bbl, heatshield, bayonette lug, and no trigger disconnect to slow down blasting down a trench line.

[@stewbacca117]

Wait... Tough mudder + guns sounds like a great way to practically involve extreme mud testing with your 2GACM matches 🤔😂 the people demand such content.

[@halo7oo]

If I could choose only one designer it would be Dieudonné Saive FAL & Hi-Power

[@ostiariusalpha]

You can also cheat a bit and get a BAR LMG, since Saive made enough improvements on his version for FN (the Mle 1930) that you can justify it as part of his portfolio.

[@jeffmello4887]

These guys are the representatives of firearms and shooting sports we need thank you ian and karl

[@MrCantStopTheRobot]

To make automatic / suppressive fire work in a match, you'd have to make a "whack-a-mole" setup with a row of chronographs, possibly linked to a bunch of little pop-up targets. The targets duck for a few seconds when their corresponding chrono gets activated. Activate enough chronos within a tight time-window, and you pass the station.

[@krinkov39]

Ian is correct about the weight and velocity of the bullet effecting point of impact. It's a well known issue when shooting revolvers because they can have such a wide range of bullet weights put through them.

[@clarkbono189]

These Q & A's are my favorite thing. The apprehension of the intellect on matters germain tho those interesting to me provide me with so much satisfaction and relaxation. Fact is I'd rather watch you two guys discuss stuff I like the hear about more than just about anything else. Both you guys do such a great job discussing the so many fascinating facts surrounding our firearms culture, I think we will never run out of informative and entertaining information. In a nutshell, this channel, these particular q&a shows are awesome. I love geeking out to a couple of intelligently expressed thoughts and opinions by a couple of gungeeks as yourselves. Worth the price of a ticket.

[@breaden4381]

What about the trigger? That's a big improvement over the handgonne

[@JonathanFergusonRoyalArmouries]

I would expand that to the gun-lock (and all successor actions/mechanisms), which in its most primitive form pre-dates the trigger as we know it. If we assume that the basic firearm is a metal tube sealed at one end with a vent for firing, and necessarily requires gunpowder, then the one technology that was added to this, without which we could not/would not have had any of the others, is the gun-lock (I am including the simple pivoting serpentine in this).

[@UltraYahooify]

Triggers pre-date guns. It's a technology firearms borrowed from crossbows.

[@banditone00]

On the budget red dot vs old optic you have to keep in mind you can catch the Holosun on sale for $99. I agree with Karl. Amazon all day!

[@jeffersongreen3415]

WWI Tacticool, I have a pritchard bayonet for my webley. I can't imagine a scenario where it would be remotely practical but it makes me smile whenever I get it out.

[@osktom7508]

In case anyone hasn't noticed, this video was uploaded on April fool's day. Ian and Karl say they hate the zip 22 but that's clearly an April fool's prank. Good one guys.

[@JohnDoe-fk6id]

You guys REALLY need to look at the Laugo Alien. It is an amazing evolution of the HK P7

[@VulpeRenard]

It looks like an Arsenal Strike One.

[@JohnDoe-fk6id]

@@VulpeRenard Fair, but the Strike One is recoil operated, and the Laugo is gas delayed blowback

[@VulpeRenard]

Sounds interesting. Looks to have a lower bore axis than the Strizh also.

[@JohnDoe-fk6id]

@@VulpeRenard I dug through the patents. It is GLORIOUSLY complicated, but I love it.

[@VulpeRenard]

Yeah, just saw a field strip of it. A little worried about those really thin looking polymer-looking parts, especially the one part of the slide that... actually slides. The fixed barrel and upper are an interesting idea though, so whether you're using irons or an optic, it isn't going to shift.

[@wattasz6348]

Its always a treat when you guys post these. Made my day

[@andyrihn1]

Repro Burgess folding shotgun. You’d get the cowboy action crowd and it would make a great backpack gun

[@dchil15]

Potential australian market

[@andyrihn1]

dchil15 pretty much anywhere pump shotties are legal which is true in most places

[@saccaed]

Thinking on how to make myself a modern burgess has kept me up at night multiple times. Some people want a repro mp44, I want a repro folding burgess.

[@Devin_Stromgren]

Aren't pump shotguns illegal in Australia?

[@andyrihn1]

Devin Stromgren they’re category C. Harder to get than repeating rifles but not nearly as strict as semiautomatic rifles which you can really only get if you’re, military/police or an “occupational shooter” or in the gun industry.

[@johnsartain6464]

Most definitely with you on the percussion cap.

[@jacobfarley434]

For the shotgun in three gun. What about targets that are pistol or shotgun, but require 3-4 shots with a pistol to neutralize or one solid hit with a slug from the shotgun? Give more variety of choosing to transition from the shotgun to the pistol or reload the shotgun.

[@JonesyMcDanes]

For full auto maybe have a "no-pen" zone on targets to account for armor plates. If you have to get 2 hits on a non-plated zone of a moving target I'd say full auto could maybe be useful, especially on the clock.

[@jeremyrosenblum8599]

It's actually not true that a roller delay system can't be adjusted. The bolt gap directly effects the amount of rearward force the bolt asserts. The smaller the gap the less bolt thrust. With a gap of zero it becomes a bolt action. The locking piece angle also impacts the delay time and thrust. Using plus and minus rollers you can tune the system to what you are shooting.

[@darthhodges]

You should do a periscope gun for a stage gun. Bolt action, start it empty chamber so they have to run the bolt, and it only yields bonus points.

[@BjornTheWombat]

30:19 Dieudonné Saive would be an alright one they missed

[@DaleErnieMichael]

You can absolutely get reliable optics for under $100 these days. I've got a Bushnell 3-9x scope that came with a $300 Savage Axis and it works just fine. As for red dots there are Primary Arms and Bushnell options which are plenty good, especially the PA which is damn nice but suffers in battery life and lived on my home defense gun for a couple years.

[@tmack11]

Look at how green the Sonoran desert is. Rainy winter

[@brankomilicevic6904]

Fully automatic is super important in special forces units, correct me if I'm wrong but the 416, scar etc. came into being because the US SF were literally overusing fully auto in their training and the standard military issue DI AR-15's were just not taking it well.

[@TheeCambion]

Yeah kinda.. wasn't so much that they over used it. More like they wanted to use it like a saw. They would just mag dump over and over again liking the suppressing fire and low weight to cover one another.

[@SK-bu1ft]

It's even more important for line light infantry who are engaging in fire and maneuver on an objective. There is a reason that the USMC has kind of done an acquisitions end around to get full auto assault rifles issued to everyone as standard.

[@brankomilicevic6904]

Its very interesting to me how Ian and Karl love to brand DI AR-15 as the end all guns option for military, and for sure in semi-auto it is, but full auto is what defines an "assault rifle" as its first makers, the Germans, envisioned it. I even think that the main reason for stoppages in Vietnam was that the GI's loved to go full auto and a DI gun is just not very reliable for that. In fact right after the wrong ammo being issued I think that is the biggest reason. Further more I assume the A2 variant and the A4 not even having a full auto is because of that, regular soldiers "love" to go in 5-10-15 rounds burst and when they get stressed in urban or jungle warfare they will mag dump into buildings, bushes, doors, windows etc. Since DI simply doesn't do it well enough they just omitted the full auto mode and gave it only a 3 round burst and semi. The fact that DI doesn't do full auto well is also shown by the fact that no such gun was successfully adopted for LMG, or MMG role. Even the newest USMC full auto support platform the HK IAR is a piston and not an DI AR in its core.

[@midnigh7run420]

Lived in NM for ten years. You guys are spot on about the food. I miss it so much.

[@SN_268]

"louisiana slugger" as a kentucky native, this rustles my jimmies

[@ernstbergerbrent]

I've heard Louisville pronounced many different ways and that's a new one.

[@ReYnd]

They do not partake in the sports ball.

[@SgtKOnyx]

Your jimmies being rustled rustled mine

[@nickstralow8310]

It's a special variant for clubbing pesky gators

[@Semper_Iratus]

Thank you Karl and Ian, great stuff.

[@forestcampbell8962]

Diamondback db15 ar for around 600 is [I'm my understanding] good for the cost without being the most basic stock ar. Great content as always Karl and Ian.

[@roncterry]

I think it is Steyr that has the patent on the chassis in a polymer pistol. Sig is being sued by them.

[@13jhow]

Interestingly, Steyr has filed a lawsuit against Sig for the 320. They used the 'chassis' system in their M9 and are saying that Sig is infringing on their patent. Either way, Hudson couldn't use that sort of system in a polymer framed pistol without getting hit by a lawsuit from a major manufacturer.

[@Devin_Stromgren]

So if InRange was to get into firearm manufacturing, they would be best served making WWSD ARs first, and then use the proceeds from that to fund any other designs.

[@sawyernorthrop4078]

I'd buy one

[@Dome4322]

Just became a 5 Dollar Patreon, keep up the awesome work Ian and Karl! Been following you for a long time. Love your videos, especially the 2 gun matches and the mud tests :)

[@kallecederstrom501]

For Valmet stocks, tube is clearly better that wood. You can't break it easily by biting it. I tried.

[@Clymer1776]

The most important development was Glock mags. They are like the Frank's Hot Sauce of the gun industry. That S**T fits in everything.

[@gabriellunde2609]

Including your mum?

[@dfwai7589]

Except a 1911

[@SavageGerbil]

@@gabriellunde2609 Well, they're not drop free..

[@bopeton]

In addition to smokeless powder, metallic cartridges, and percussion caps, I'd add barrel rifling.

[@StrangerOman]

Boy I really love Q&A at InRange. So much hype for future videos and just a good talk. :)

[@cryalowicki]

Timestamps on the questions would be nice.

[@omicrondec]

Yes!

[@werre2]

How to set FAL gas system: - turn the valve to largest number (which means "bypass the most gas") - turn it down until the gun cycles - turn it down until brass flies about 2-3 meters Now the gun will work in winter cold and summer heat with your ammo and probably most ammo.

[@Waty8413]

So you guys filmed this on the one day the color green exists green in the desert?

[@WanlaceYates]

Walther PPKs are nice pistols that have known issues with slide bite, especially older models (newer ones now have bigger grip beavertails to reduce the issue). So it is not just an issue with poor quality or poor design guns.

[@atilliar]

I'm surprised rifling wasn't mentioned for importance of firearms development.

[@cropman123]

Great video, guys! I love your Q&A videos, they provide a lot of information. How to we find out the info (time, place, rules, cost,etc) of the 2 gun matches ? If I could get to one I would like to try it.

[@BaconJ8tor]

With designers, another option would be Fedor Tokarev. Although outdated by modern standpoints you got both a good rifle and pistol.

[@Jesses001]

I am totally going to look into that Retro Wave shooting thing in Florida. I live about...4 hour drive from north Florida. That is doable for a fun weekend of shooting. Hell I might take a day off of work for it. Would be the first time I took a day off of work since I started there 2 years ago.

[@DrGamingDude]

I don't do drugs, but is it me or did they missed a question from Mike? "What's the worst rifle/handgun you've ever taken to a match?"

[@Cakeyflour]

I just went back and double checked. Looks like they skipped that one.

[@yeer1888]

You guys missed one question. What was the worst rifle/handgun you took to a match ?

[@BatCaveOz]

The correct answer for the best modern day reproduction would be a LeMat revolver... using cased ammunition and smokeless powder. Pistol caliber could be just about anything from .38 to .455, the center bore could be anything from .410 to 20 gauge. It doesn't have to be an exact replica... it would be amazing.

[@InrangeTv]

LeMats really are very unwieldy.

[@clark1116]

I feel like rifling would be a good addition to the most important developments.

[@radical026]

Make a video punting the Zip 22 into orbit while shooting it (but not shooting the Zip 22 if you get where I'm going with this)

[@DRNewcomb]

Re: MGs in tactical matches, I have been told that, in the 1930s, Infantry Team Trophy matches (a.k.a. "Rattle Battle") at Camp Perry were fired by a team with Springfield '03s and one BAR. Civilian teams were issued a BAR to shoot the match.

[@Ixonyard]

33:10 That reminds me of my military service. A guy in my company had misplaced his rifle in the field and tank rolled over it. Needless to say, the gun and the soldier had a bad day, albeit for different reasons.

[@CopyCatCo]

Now I'm curious about what weapon Karl fenced. I don't know why, but I feel like he'd be likely to have done epee.

[@jager6863]

Great Q&A as always. Quick comment at 3:15 in the video, you opined that the SIG Sauer P320 patented the drop-in chassis. Although originally, this drop-in frame was seen on SIG's P250, which was a hammer fired single/double action gun, which predated the P320, I believe that the original concept and patent was by Steyr for their M Series pistols, designed by former Glock employee, Wilhelm Bubits (also Caracal pistol). In fact, Steyr Arms filed a patent infringement case against SIG in May 2017. If you look at both pistols, you will find that the SIG idesign is clearly a direct copy of the Steyr modular chassis design.

[@ksy_csrg]

I use a Dillon 650, and I've used a 550B before. For shooting in any sort of volume, the 650 or even a Hornady LNL AP absolutely blow it out of the water. The indexing issue is almost non existent, and it's not a difficult issue to fix if something goes wrong with a certain case in a certain station.

[@feelousscout3]

What kind of stuff should a new shooter to 2 gun expect? Do I need to go to several matches and observe, or a training/safety thing first or will most matches let me shoot?

[@jarvy251]

I got a turret progressive press, yeah, I also ended up taking out the rotating mechanism and using it as a single-stage with every step already set up and kept together.

[@saccaed]

Since you brought up a lack of moving targets, why do matches not have moving targets? Could be as simple as a plate hanging off a angled cable on a pulley(like a zipline) or plate on a base that traverses by motor and pulley. Military training typically has moving targets that are quite simply implemented. I've never wondered about the lack of traversing targets at matches but now I'm having trouble thinking about much else.

[@TTMR1986]

I'm all about the cheap AR, so long as the receivers are remotely to spec. Add a medium quality BCG and trigger and go. It is better than no gun and being Lego gun means you can make it better as you go. Any other cheap rifle means starting over from scratch

[@Lfrohawker]

If I didn't love this channel already, the fact that you guys differentiate between New Mexican and all other Hispanic/Latin/Mexican food just sold me on it! Don't ever ask a New Mexican about Colorado "green chile"

[@RalphReagan]

Love both

[@wilsoncalhoun]

The Cobray is a really good slam-fire shotgun that some guy made with $10 worth of scrap in his garage. I have no idea what the zip 22 is or what niche it was supposed to fill, or just the general "why" of it all; it is completely without context.

[@ralfrude3532]

For Hudson the costs for the tooling of a polymer frame would have been prohibitive.

[@ben501st]

50 years ago is almost 1970. I have weaver scopes from that era more reliable than $100 optics I've owned. You'll lose clarity and range of zoom but ruggedness is there.

[@randyallen2771]

Concur with your cusine choices but come over to east Tucson and try Poco and Mom's. Green chili and pork stew, and sopapilias are NM here.

[@AtrociousAK47]

assuming said reproduction worked, including ammo issues, just a well or better than the original, id say either a webly fosbery or a jaeger pistol

[@jackusmc2542]

Very good one and Arizona looks so nice this time of year.

[@mattberry4457]

i would by far take the old optic. i have a late sixties zeiss and nickel scope. while the zeiss is as bright as anything out there both are very clear all the way to the edges and the internals can't be beat.

[@ZombieWilfred]

I think maybe the guy who asked about red dots working better on rotating barrel pistols wasn't asking if they are more accurate on them, but if they would hold up to the wear and tear better because of the locking system unlocking in a different and maybe less jarring way. People always say they are really soft shooting pistols but I have yet to have the chance to try one. Have been meaning to grab one of the Beretta PX4 Storm (? I'm pretty sure) pistols just to have a rotating barrel design in the collection...

[@ZombieWilfred]

@@qk-tb2df Nobody is suggesting "radically changing the design of the firearm." I'm pretty sure he was asking about putting red dots on the rotating barrel pistol designs that already exist, such as the Beretta that I mentioned... They are not very common, most pistols are either browning tilting barrel or blowback, but there are already rotating barrel designs that are readily available and affordable. You'd just mill the slide for the optic like they do on other pistols. Even the Aimpoint will eventually break down from the extreme forces riding on a slide will subject it to and do so much faster than it would being used on a rifle or a non-reciprocating part of a gun . Everything breaks down eventually... I think the question the guy was trying to ask was if it will last longer on the slide of a rotating barrel pistol because it might have a slower acceleration.

[@ZombieWilfred]

@@qk-tb2df Right, but again rotating barrel pistols already exist and are still made. The Browning tilting barrel lockup is king in the world of pistols today, there's no disputing that, but that doesn't mean that they don't still make rotating barrel pistols, like the Beretta PX4 Storm I mentioned. they're available, affordable, and, from everything I've heard, reliable and soft shooting. I believe there is only one real question here... Would a red dot sight last longer on a rotating barrel pistol's slide than it would on a tilting barrel one? It's a valid and interesting question, in my opinion.

[@ZombieWilfred]

@@qk-tb2df I definitely agree that I don't think the difference would be very significant, if it even exists at all, but I would be curious to see if there is any difference.

[@kfeltenberger]

I thought Steyr had the patent for the drop in chassis? They are suing both Sig and Beretta over the issue.

[@Herr_ramisu]

ian swearing in an offical video. no behind the scenes, no beep. i will mark this day in my calender and celebrate it every year from now on :o

[@HappyCupsInc]

One of the most important developments for firearms is improvements in metallurgy.

[@SgtKOnyx]

I'd actually argue not. It mostly just allows guns to be lighter

[@HappyCupsInc]

@@SgtKOnyx and not blow up in your face, and be cheaper to produce, and increase reliability and longevity of parts, and allow more advanced and complex mechanics, etc...

[@TheloniousDrunk69]

"Guy's on Magazine Street" Are you sure it isnt on Clip Street?

[@williestyle35]

You really can find a very decent AR under $600 many places in the U. S. Especially if you look to all the ones sold just a little while ago, now available used.

[@williestyle35]

"Machine gun is the right answer" Karl (2019).

[@Soff1859]

Seriously ian? You came to switzerland last year and didnt get any experience with the sig 55x series? I even remember seeing a 550 in the background of one of the videos from then and getting really excited to see a video soon, but then was disappointed when it never came.

[@kyleturnbow3373]

Has anyone heard a timeline on when the GWACS CAV-15 lower will be available again? I have emailed them multiple times and have never received a response back. Initially their website said that they would be available late 2018 and we are definitely past that....

[@cawpin]

With regard to the progressive press question, a Dillon 550 is a progressive press. What you were talking about is auto-indexing which has nothing to do with whether a press is progressive or not. Progressive refers only to the fact that multiple cartridges are in various stages of completion in each station and a cartridge is completed with each handle pull.

[@SgtKOnyx]

Definitely would like a Merwin and Hulbert repro. Also the Burgess folding shotgun.

[@brandong8790]

You guys should try the strike one pistol from arsenal I heard that one's better than the Hudson 4 muzzle flip anyway I'd like to hear your thoughts on it meaning trying it and hearing your thoughts after you shoot it or if you already have

[@expertmarksman16]

Ian is spot on with the handgun/red dot/bullet weight

[@CountArtha]

My brother lives in North Florida - sounds like he'd fit right in at that Retro Wave match with his Beretta 92 and aviator sunglasses. I'm definitely going to send that link his way!

[@kasheeste21]

I guess it depends on the word "common" but imo you missed the layup on the worst pistol question with the FP-45.

[@epl803]

Hmmm, rifling? Was the step from smoothbore musket to rifled musket comparable in terms of increases in performance as rifled musket to smokeless rifle?

[@andrewmioduchowski]

I agree, New Mexican food from New Mexico is quite good.

[@Strawberry92fs]

shit, if I owned a machine gun I'd take that thing out once a month and run it. If I can't afford to run a belt of whatever it takes through it, if I can't afford to pay a gunsmith to tune it up, if I can't afford the things that go with a machine gun, then I can't afford a machine gun. If you own a gun, you have an obligation to be competent with it.

[@Davethebalikid]

Best part of the month! Thanks karl

[@Hostilenemy]

You have some really loud birds in Arizona.

[@SolarEmp1re]

We have really annoying ones too called snow birds.

[@williestyle35]

Man, it is early spring. The birds are pretty loud anywhere warm.

[@onkelmicke9670]

It probably sat right on top of the microphone

[@idontwanttoputmyname403]

Just in case anyone finds it relevant, I believe PSA announced they were releasing a 5.45 AK model at SHOT show. AFAIK, their third generation of AK's have been solid.

[@dbmail545]

Karl was spot on. You can't get match-grade 5.45 from any source or load it yourself. I like the guns but unless you want to weigh each individual cartridge for consistency it's not what you can get out of .223 or even 5.56.

[@alt5494]

You forgot the Chinese Mauser c96 clones. At least the type 14 was made in a factory to spec's, and headspaced.

[@2aamerica329]

You are fucking right about New Mexican my friend. You just made me crave green Chile.