Aune X8 Magic XVIII and Sparkos opamp = $1000 Sound

[@paolobizai3432]

Sparkos arrived Yesterday and sounds on my Aune X8 all I can Say It Is an Amazing upgrade It worth every penny.Thank you for your job

[@reptidan]

Yes, I have this combo! And it is amazing! Could not blieve my ears when I changed to the sparkos

[@annedavid4962]

Even better with the Sparkos SS2590 dual pro... My husband went from the SS3602 to the Burson V6 Vivid and then ultimately the SS2590 dual pro.

[@reptidan]

@@annedavid4962 Did he use the SPARKOS LABS Pro to Dual DIP8 Adapter and then 2 ss2590 stacked?

[@reptidan]

@@annedavid4962 I orderded them! Thanks for the tip, very much appreciated

[@superfitzy]

Thanks so much for this review! Your reviews are always super informative and entertaining. You've made me aware of a DAC that really excites me, particularly paired with the Sparkos opamp, not to mention the ability to experiment with other opamps. As always, great review!

[@vladimirjovanovic2803]

Thanks for this review Srbo, great as always and very informative. Amazing how a change of a single component can influence the sound so much

[@MegaFabioRocks]

Of course I got it! This thing sound massive. Paired with a simple O2 amp, it sound really phenomenal even with the stock opamp. To my ears it has it all: detail, clarity, separation, punchyness and musicality. A notch or two above the hidizs dh10s (already phenomenal for his price). Just waiting the aune x7s to make the stack. The bluetooh support LDAC and the sound is also very good (you can use it streaming from your phone) Big thanks, you're really a reference guy for dacs review and recommendations. Just hope that for a good amount of time nothing will top the x8 magic! (for my wallet :D)

[@wickie2222]

Mind has just been blown. Thanks. Large rabbit hole direct ahead

[@ominchord]

😄😄😄

[@pavlobilous4030]

This review is 100% on point! I can confirm that swapping generic opamp that comes with your DAC can improve on the sound! I have sabaj dac with es9038q2m dac chip and I soldered in opa2134 instead of standard opa1612 and the sound changed in exactly the same way like in this review! I can’t wait to get my hands on sparkos opamps to solder those in (they sell soic8 to dip8 adapters)

[@mcm934ify]

A sound comparaison between this aune with sparkos and topping d50s with sparkos, please ? Wich one the more natural sound...and good soundstage

[@Simon_Hawkshaw]

A really great review and detailed information on this DAC, as always. Tank you so much for your time and effort.

[@cdotwu]

Always learning something new from your channel. Thanks for the detailed video.

[@WXSTANG]

Great video!!! You basically confirmed my suspicions about DACs. I was an audiophile and computer nerd 20 yrs ago and changed the OPAMP in my Soundblaster when it was trendy. It seems I was correct and that people are getting taken with these audiophile dacs when the output stage is where the sound is influenced the most. This is also confirmed with the enormous power supplies, and discrete outputs of super high end DACs. Interesting tidbits... -The Topping D10... you can interchange the OPAMP. -I believe the SparkOS is a discrete A amplifier using smaller SMD IGBT transistors. It isn't actually an "OPAMP" per say. -You might want to try the Burson Audio DACs as well.

[@zsvrljuga1]

25/12/22 edit After using this DAC + Sparkos OPAMP for over a month and using it with the Chord Mojo2, I would like to explain some differences between the two. The Mojo2 has more midrange presence and deeper soundstage, is more dynamic and has better slam. The Mojo also brings you closer to the soundstage, while the X8 is more relaxed in its presentation and wider soundstage. The X8 feels airier and seems to show more texture than the Mojo2. But this is not true, some aspects of the frame are highlighted, while others are shaded, pushed into the background. I would say that the Mojo2 is a better DAC in many respects and gives a lot more for almost the same money. The Aune X8 is a great DAC and depending on the system it might be a better fit (if your system sounds just a little muddy the x8 will bring back some air). The Aune X8 + Sparkos is a great DAC, but in a neutral system the Chord Mojo2 (not the original Mojo) will be better + they have some other cards up their sleeve!!! So my list under 500 eur/usd Chord Mojo2 / Aune X8 + Sparkos, under 1000eur RME ADI2 fs / Chord Qutest - Mojo2 / Denafrips Ares / Aune X8 / Topping D90 Srboljub, it's your fault that I bought this insanely good DAC (with Sparkos upgrade..). This is my favorite DAC of the many DACs (also some Higher End) on my audio journey and in my home. Only one thing is missing, the organization of complex passages and large orchestral works. Still, the organization is much better than on the Denafrips Ares, still a bit behind the Chord Qutest, the RME ADI2FS, maybe even the Mojo2. Everything else is absolutely fantastic, and this DAC is the keeper of DACs, it will stay at home, no matter what the future holds. My list of DACs under 1100 Eur as of now is this: Aune X8 + Sparkos, RME ADI2FS / Chord Qutest, Chord Mojo/Mojo2, Denafrips Ares.

[@gregmccann2008]

I'm sure the CM2 sounds phenomenal maybe even better, but for $263 with BT and $75 for the Sparkos $363 out the door 2022, it was hard to beat or pass up. I don't see the CM@ for less then $800 beans.

[@xrqpxrqp]

In your first list Aune X8 + Sparkos was last, in your 3rd list it is first.

[@johncallaghan3097]

Sorry for the late post, but I recently bought the Aune X8 for my secondary nearfield system at under half the price (£280 inc P&P and taxes) of my Tradutto, now in my main system. I prefer the op-amp in the pill box to the one that came installed, and am surprised how good it sounds as supplied -- quite punchy and nuanced, though, as you intimate, a little lacking in fullness. It's certainly worth the price purely as a reasonably priced DAC. I've noticed its output is louder than my Tradutto and a couple of other (inexpensive) DACs I have, and that's quite welcome. I have the Sparkos (£100 inc P&P and taxes) on order from the USA; hopefully, it will be arriving in 10-14 days, and I can hardly wait to try it out. Another op-amp I've heard about, the Stacatto, is slightly more expensive but according the OCD hi-fi guy -- see kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHWkamOvgtSHZ5o&ab_channel=OCDHI-FiGuy -- who gave a demonstration of the two, maybe even better -- though how easily it would fit into the X8, I can't say. Thought I'd mention it in case you ever decide to give it a whizz. I'll let you know how I get on with the Sparkos in due course.

[@nc3419]

I recently ordered the Aune, and Sparkos. The Aune arrives and I am awaiting the Sparkos. I also considered the Stacatto and contacted the company for an appropriate product. A rep wrote back that there was an issue with the previous version of the Aune and its opamp but didn't know if the 18th resolved the issue. Unless Aune knew about the issue, I don't see how it could have been resolved but if someone has a positive experience in using this combo, please share. I could post what was sent to me if someone wanted. That there's an issue which in which Stacatto was upfront about is appreciated. Once resolved, there's another upgrade to consider.

[@giuseppecassano7071]

News for sparkos and aune?

[@nc3419]

@@giuseppecassano7071 It works well together, not warm, to me slightly on brighter side of neutral but that's on speakers with that signature too. I like. Considered what I stated above, its the speakers that are brighter and I noticed the Sparkos took away the hard edge/glare in the mids and highs but doesn't throw a blanket over the details. So, perhaps more neutral but keeps things smooth but still highly detailed with vg texture.

[@scottbennett3119]

I was very intrigued by your very detailed review. My Aune was delivered two days ago and the Sparkos about a week ago. Like you I listened to JRC op amp for a day or so and then I put in the Sparkos op amp. Wow! So much more of the real body and detail of the music is coming out of my speakers now. You are absolutely right! This is fantastic! Thank you for telling us about this combination!

[@nc3419]

I have recently received the Aune dac (one with BT, the other w/o) and am waiting for the delivery of the Sparkos op amp. I have a Topping d70s and will compare them. Essentially, the reason aside from price was that this review stated the combination gave more separation and depth of stage. An alternative I considered which is supposed to be good is the Geshelli dac, but I bought the Aune, two actually, if it actually does what this review states I can use one in my main system and one on my desktop. Can you make any comparisons to other dacs you may have heard? I am downsizing all my equipment, sort of going in the other direction in that instead of buying up, buying down but trying to system match to maximize potential. I Have a Keces E40 integrated for my main and ordered another for desktop. Will use Dali Opticon 1 for desktop and a Triangle Zeta Plaisir for fronts (until I figure out a better small speaker option). Coming from a both larger Hegel/Focal combo, its a downgrade but pretty close for my moderate listening levels. For higher listening levels, the higher end products do better. If I wanted to keep the larger and more expensive gear, I probably would have went after a Gustard R2R dac, or some other R2R over a grand as there are some good choices now. My question is given this dac, for the price, the aune/sparkos combo seems to give at least as well a performance of the best chip amps up to a grand. Do you feel this to be the case? I am also considering ordering the Aune or better power supply as some have stated it also adds to the SQ. So based on your experiences, do you feel the Aune/Sparkos really lives up to the hype? Have you or considered upgrading the power supply? I know this is also dependent on amps, speakers, but still interested in someone's experience. With a power supply upgrade and the holiday discounts, one can have two dacs, each with a sparkos op amp and upgraded ps, all for well under a grand. If the performance is that good, its a fair outlay. My biggest concerns with buying a much more expensive dac is 1) whether the increased capabilities would be noticed on a more modest system and at low to moderate listening levels and 2) it is still unclear how well R2R dacs hold up and whether one can get them easily serviced or not. I read one person's experience that a Drago recently failed and the company didn't offer any solutions. For a dac that recently came out, that isn't too appealing. With a budget dac that purportedly reaches near what a more expensive unit can do, a failure isn't too expensive, just replace. For the cost of shipping alone, not to mention repair, it would be easy enough to just replace. That has an appeal too. Any thought by anyone appreciated. One could go up in price with anything, but the budget combos seemingly if done correctly can yield surprising results.

[@scottbennett3119]

@@nc3419 The Geshelli labs akm dac has a little more midrange than Aune dac with JRC chip. Sparcos is like the dac is on steroids and I am not always in the mood for it. I like to switch between chips and dacs and pairing with different speakers I have on hand. A lot of fun.

[@giuseppecassano7071]

Can you give news for sparkos and aune? Thank you very much

[@scottbennett3119]

@Giuseppe Cassano my amplifier malfunctioned and has been in the repair shop for a while now. So, I can't properly evaluate the chip as of now.

[@scottbennett3119]

@Giuseppe Cassano I am no longer a fan of the Sparkos for use with the Aune X8. The increases in musical intensity became fatiguing to me after I became familiar with the sound.

[@yellow_noise3]

Great and interesting review. Most of the people are mislead by reviewers that DAC chip has a "sound" and speculating AKM over SABRE over BB and reverse. Well, to some extend yes DAC have sound signature - thus old Philips TDA chips are still used and percived as best "sounding", however I wouldn't overestimate this feature. What "make" dac sound is end stage, buffer, you name it. And this fact is completely ignored by most of reviewers. Therefore thank you for raising this topic and for your op-amp rolling. For me, results are no surprise, however expected Muse 01 to beat all, well technology goes forward, however visibly discrette type op-amp are now better and better than integrated ones. Would like to hear it with Burson discrette op-amp! Also did you consider to replace the end bufder in SMSL and Topping? Maybe this sparkos would bring them to even higher level? Same with mentioned ladder type dacs- most probably they also use opamps in buffer stage. Would be interesting to see this review. Thank you and keep on doing, your reviews are awesome!

[@D1N02]

I looked about a bit and Aune offers a dedicated linear power supply for this dac called XP2 It sells around 100 Dollars or Euro. It can actually power two different devices at once.

[@laurelhardy4064]

You have just took the X8 magic XVIII dac and made it to a X8 magic XVIII MKII, so you have done all the hard work for the Aune company, great review, thanks.

[@dreddguy6454]

You make the videos that I want to watch. Good work.

[@fabricegrard1001]

J'ai acquis le X8 et sparkos 3602 et en réglant les filtres sur D, c'est un régal de précision, espace entre notes respecté, aucune agressivité et du détails d'une propreté exceptionnelle. Après 55 ans de HiFi voici enfin un début de perfection (j'écoute de la pop, du rock plus ou moins hard, du black metal, bossa nova, blues). Merci iiWi

[@slavkorodic1333]

Sjajna prezentacija i koristan savet kako uštedeti novac a doći do zvuka višeg cenovnog ranga. Hvala, velika podrška, sve si bolji!

[@NeilBlanchard]

I am very impressed with the sound of my Geshelli J2 AKM - which happens to use three Texas Instruments TI1656 opamps - one for single ended, and two for the balanced outputs. Texas Instruments bought Burr Brown a while back. As I look for this number, I am finding surface mount parts. Also, using a LPS seems to be a similar big improvement in the treble and soundstage and instrument separation, etc.

[@NeilBlanchard]

In the 6 months or so, since this video was posted, Geshelli Labs has released a socketed version of their J2 DAC - it is called the J2S, surprisingly enough. :-) It has 3 DIP8 sockets, because it has 3 op-amps - one for the singled ended output, and two for the balanced outputs. You can order the J2S with the same OPA1656 as used in the J2, or you can get OPA1612 (similar sound signature, with lower noise floor) for $10 each. And you can get the same Sparkos SS3602 discrete op-amp as reviewed in this video, for $79 each. They fit without any mods required. I *love* the J2S with the Sparkos SS3602. It is my new reference DAC. It has an AKM DAC chip, and has *wonderful* bass, is very dynamic, and layers and textures are there in all their glory. Or, you can buy any other DIP8 dual op-amp you want to use. The one that I am going to try is an OPA627 dual mono module that I bought on eBay for $6 each shipped. The OPA627 is reputed to be the *best* BB/TI op-amp ever made.

[@mikkol79]

@@NeilBlanchard Update here what it sounds like! I just ordered the J2S with Sparkos on the RCA side.

[@NeilBlanchard]

@@mikkol79 Where do I start? It sounds magnificent! Everything about it is stellar - the bass quality and control and texture and punch is everything I could hope for. The midrange is full and dimensional and layered. Micro details are just effortless, as are dynamics and everything is harmonically rich. Treble is as great as I have heard - not hard, and not etched - just clear and clean and is just part of the whole. I have to force myself to shut it off at night. I muted the amp, and kept listening on headphones ... and those sound better than they ever have. No fatigue - just bliss. You owe it to yourself to get a 12V 50W linear power supply for the J2S.

[@100popsongs]

@@NeilBlanchard What power supply do you use? I would like to upgrade my J2 but idk what power supplies match with it or what options there are.

[@flintmonz]

Just having the convenient ability to change OPAMPS has me craving this new toy !

[@Error_4x5]

Me too

[@bobb.9917]

Very interesting…I have a Pontus II… so I think that I am good for now, but THANKS for including more music…You have good taste!!! 👍🏼😎

[@blader.9433]

Thank you for your review of the Aune unit. I have some personal experience with Aune as I have the 2020 version that does not offer the easy option to change output op amp. However I have the option to swap out different op amps in a pre-amp in search of better performance and tried all your choices in your video save for the Sparkos. This was not an option for me as I was not willing to forward the cost. However, I found and exemplary op amp at a fraction of the cost that just was so superior to these op amps that I had an experienced engineer friend of mine desolder the op amp in the Aune 2020 and replace with an OPA 1656 and wow! Ultra musical. If you haven't tried this op amp, you should include this in your arsenal. It's very cheap and so the bang for the buck soars..

[@alcidesbautista4805]

I just got my magic Dac, and l agree, it sounded good, but I changed the op amp to BB2604 and what a difference. I can’t wait to get the sparkos, I thank you for your descripción on this Dac , I really bought it because of your review

[@troyharris5867]

I Have used Aune X8 magic dac with Burson Classic op amp for two years. You must turn it upside down to use because it is a tall op amp. I bought the sparkos and put it in. Great detail verging on analytical, but not as musical or engaging as the burson classic. imho

[@edverbeek6292]

I too used a sparkos in a cheap (106 euro) chinese DAC, with spectacular result. Look at the pictures of the inside of those DAC's, because the exististing OPAMP has to have a DIP8 socket, and if you need two or more dual OPAMPS it will be more expensive. Adding a linear power supply does the rest.

[@martijnisonline1330]

Welke DAC is dat? Alvast dank voor je reactie.

[@shs747]

@@martijnisonline1330 I have tried Tempotec serenade idsd and has the same OPamp swapping option.

[@edverbeek6292]

@@martijnisonline1330 sold out, on A…x…ss.

[@HalRockwell]

The reason for only pre out has balanced output is that this output isn't really balanced but a complete parallel for the RCA. It's meant for connecting the DAC to powered monitors and controlling the volume via the X8. It's a convenience thing.

[@xrqpxrqp]

What? The xlr output is not really balanced?

[@HalRockwell]

@@xrqpxrqp No, it's not. It's common nowadays to diversify connectivity for convenience without changing anything inside.

[@randomdamian]

Love the video! Ordered mine from Aune while the video was playing :D

[@hi-fidude6670]

The SS3602 was known for being one of not the best OP amp but with the recent release of the Burson V7 it has been dethroned. I`m getting a V7 Vivid for my X8 in a couple of days when it has arrived and then my X8 is upgraded as far as possible. I have the Aune XP2 torodial power supply for it too, way better than the cheap switching power supply

[@SurrealSaheel]

Firstly how much did the power supply change the sound of the x8. Also keen to know how the V7 sounds

[@eckisteinhagen]

Hey, how is the Burson V7 ?

[@7in1]

Did you like v7?

[@hi-fidude6670]

@@7in1 Best OP amp I've ever heard

[@feloniusdrunk]

I did this with a headphone dac/amp from China and had the same problem that the discrete op amp was too big. Anyway I was using Chinese made discrete op amps costing about $20 and even at the very low cost end of the scale there was a big difference. I had 2 discretes and 1 paired extremely well to my taste, but the other was too sharp sounding. So thanks for your review, it was very interesting to hear about the effect higher up the quality scale.

[@ivanlee7244]

Can you describe the type Chinese op amps did you use? Thank you

[@feloniusdrunk]

@@ivanlee7244 Hi Ivan, The type of OP amps were called dual discrete op amps made by Douk Audio with 8 pins. This is how they are listed on ebay UK. "Dual Discrete Op Amp HiFi Audio Preamp Operational Amplifier OPAMP replace ad827"

[@Scrufboy]

New insights..... The Burson V6 Vivid improves upon what the Sparkos does. But now we have a few daring folks, myself in particular, are going to try the SparkosLabs PRO SS2590 in a dual setup on the Aune X8 XVIII.

[@larsv6144]

have you tried it? I have the same X8 with SS3602 dual opamps and am wondering if the SS2590 fits and is an improvement

[@kostass3124]

Great review !!! Btw in regards to DACs with changable op-amps, its worth taking a look at the Burson fi Composer. Would be great if we get to have a review for this one from you :)

[@wmc_videos]

This DAC sounds even better with the Aune XP2 linear power supply. Consider that upgrade for your X8 too!

[@nc3419]

Where did you get the Aune XP2 ps? Considering buying but trying to avoid possible ordering hassles. What was the biggest difference you noticed with the upgrade? Thanks.

[@wmc_videos]

@@nc3419 I believe I bought it on HifiGo.

[@nc3419]

@@wmc_videos 👍

[@riccitone]

This was SO cool! Just an exciting and fun proposition that a fairly simple and affordable component upgrade could make such a difference. Wondering what would happen if I tried this on a D70s? Tricky, as the question remains if two Sparkos amps would fit inside of it (or other jam-packed dacs). So maybe the burr-browns. Now you've got me thinking! Thanks again for looking not these unique possibilities and for the detailed comparison (ot to mention the mod demonstration).

[@soulshinobi]

Really excited to see you comment on opamps, would love to see more of this

[@Viewer13128]

so if we are swapping op-amp in a single AMP/DAC combo unit (like the Dx7 Pro), we are actually swapping the DAC part, not the AMP part, right? Does this mean all the amp specs are remains the same after op-amp swap (e.g., output impedance, output power, etc.)?

[@nc3419]

Breaking in the Aune X8 with the Sparkos op amp. Only a few hours on the unit so wondering if more of a break-in period might yield a difference but so far it is nice, but different from my other dac, a Topping D70s. Some of what Srboljub stated about the D90LE applies here as well. The D70S is definitely more dynamic and punchy. It also gives alot of detail and seems a bit having wider stage. I think as to depth, I didn't think it was too bad and don't seem to notice much difference at this point. But the sound itself is definitely different. With the D70s being more dynamic and punchy it gives a more energetic and exciting presentation, lots of detail with that detail standing out. For movies with lots of dialogue, sound effects and details, it gives alot with more emphasis to edges and to me, more resolution. There's good space and depth and you notice that with certain scenes. Spatial imaging seems very good. With the Aune X8, I first listened to it with the stock chip it came with. Nothing special to me and sounded like alot of other $300 or less dacs I have listened to in certain ways. Pretty much none of them could beat out the dac in my Marantz CD 6006 although some were close to it. The Aune X8 w Sparkos op amp I believe is a step up but it is still pretty close (hence perhaps needing more of a breakin period). The Topping D70s has a similar sound to the Marantz but is better in every way, enough to notice more easily. So at this point, the Aune w/ Sparkos sits between them. I do think the Aune is pretty detailed without sounding harsh where the D70s can up the sibilance and/or glare in recordings, as well as speakers as all of mine are not considered on the warm side. As to which has more detail, it depends. The D70s has more low end, bloom, punch and etches sounds better while the Aune w Sparkos is warmer, perhaps a bit more laid back and takes the edge off as well as presenting less glare and sibilance. So if the Aune might seem a bit more detailed at times compared to say a D90LE it may be due to that which it doesn't emphasize making other things stand out more and enough to notice. On the Aune, human voices seem a bit more diffuse but still thick, something like hearing dialogue in a theater. There's that thickness, warmth vs say the topping variants which are less warm but a bit more resolved. Can't say one is better than another, just different and one could prefer one over the other or have a preference depending on the music/soundtrack/movie/music, etc. This is all just preliminary at this point. Adding a better PS might even up the ante but, for those of you having a D70s, I don't think the Aune/Sparkos combo outright beats it, its just different. That difference might lend itself to a preference depending on amp, speakers, room and music. If I had to say which is ultimately the better dac, I give the nod to the D70s. I will eventually try it against the dac in my hegel to see what it yields. At this point, I think it is just different. I really like the D70s, has a bit more to offer as to inputs/MQA, is better built and has become a classic in its own right. But it was essentially double the price too. The D70s compared to the one in my Hegel h160 using RCA inputs are more similar than different and play on equal footing. The D70s has more low end emphasis and the one in the hegel is a bit cooler with a bit better separation of instruments but both are very good and close. The d70s provides a higher output voltage too to the Aune, lending a bit to its sound as well. I feel though that the Aune would make a really good desktop solution. Add some extension to its feet and use the Sparkos or some other op amp to your liking. With the sparkos, it gives a nice locked in image when up close with the speakers I am using which are both the dali Opticon 1 MK 1 and Triangle Zetas. I think the Aune/sparkos combo would be good on a lively, cooler speaker. Even with a warmer speaker, there;s still sufficient detail to probably not sound too woolly. All in all, for the discounted prices I paid during the holiday sales, it was a well priced purchase. Drawbacks? Well it could have BT 5.2 although most don't just yet. Also, a remote would have been nice, hence making it a bit more suitable for the desktop than living room. One thing I would like to know is how this Aune X8 with Sparkos, or other op amp compares to the Geshelli JNOG2 dac.

[@Ravenblues]

Dude what do you think that you are breaking in exactly?

[@razzman2987]

I got a used x8 with the latest sparkos took me a day tweaking but its so smooth i love it setting A is recommended by Aune China site and they are spot on . I come from a topping e30 II. The difference is astonishing Also got the xp2 with upgraded power cord and its cleaner nicer more air ..love it Thx Mate

[@nc3419]

Does the xp2 with the stock cord make a difference in dac performance? And, how much better upgrading the power cord (which did you buy) as it doesn't draw a whole lot of power?

[@razzman2987]

@@nc3419 I think it makes a difference i had a wirewold aurora in the drawer and try it in the xp 2 and it sounds beautifull i did 2 comparisations with the stock cable but i prefer the wirewold Lows are more nice more space Overal more musical

[@razzman2987]

​@@nc3419Another really great upgrade is to replace the dc to dc cable u will be happy after the switch 😊

[@cruise2023]

Well I learnt something today, great review...now just waiting for the Spirit Wind review Lol.

[@clarkejones8090]

Captivating. Intriguing investigation. Thank you.

[@derberti2280]

I wanted to upgrade the DAC of my NAD C368 and tried the M500 MK II first. That one sounds better but not very much. So after a while I changed to the Aune X8. With the BB2604 there is a bigger step in sound quality. NOw I tried the Sparkos Opamp and the difference is really even bigger. More details, More punch in the bass, so it is really worth the price.. Happy listening!

[@notguilty5802]

Hi my friend. Your reviews are simply the best. I’m intrigued to know what you might think of the gishelli labs j2 AKM dac for this category of competition. It is highly rated by other reviewers in this price range against even more expensive equipment and I noticed many comments in this section requesting this comparison review. Thanks for all you do.

[@nc3419]

Going to purchase one of htese along with the Sparkos opamp. Two questions regarding the two offerings, one edition with BT and one without...1) does having BT in the unit have the potential to degrade the SQ while using one of the other inputs and 2) can the BT on the BT version be disabled when not in use?

[@Gator_Bot]

I've currently got a Topping E30, thanks in large part to your review of it. I was wondering, would this be a good upgrade (with the sparkos) to the E30?

[@mcjunior79]

Great review! Let me ask you, why didn't you changed the OPAMP in SMSL MKII? It would be nice, to see if M500 goes to a level up...

[@iiWiReviews]

It's not made for that. You would have to dissemble it completely, maybe desolder the preamp that's put in by the factory... Loose your warranty in the process. That is only for advanced modders and not something I would encourage general audience to do.

[@Truthtalks86]

Awesome review. What were the two bur brown (Texas instruments?) Op-mps (part or model #) that you tried? Which one was better? And how much better was the sparkos than the better of the burr/brown ?

[@paolobizai3432]

Amazing review and report as always.You are so clear and professional your review are true. I have Aune X8 with Xp2 external Power supply and all you Say Is true,I made the same test and confirm opamp Rolling Is funny, with jrc 5532 and LTE sound Is precise but flat and involving,Muses 01 seems tò sounds good ,very clean and tight but I feel loses something in the music,opa 2134 Is the best of the bunch,less clean,dirty but music Is come again with live ,body and emotion,3d Is good also and now ..........Now I'm waiting Sparkos Ss 3602 ,I bought It Yesterday obiovusly.Thank you for your job guy much appreciated

[@edverbeek6292]

Staccato discrete opamps seem to be even a bit more refined and natural sounding. Google for reviews. (I myself used a SparkoS). Don't forget to use a linear power supply; with the SparkoS that gave me an equally huge improvement

[@Viewer13128]

what do you mean by linear power supply? Im using a topping dx7 pro. how do i add linear power supply?

[@edverbeek6292]

@@Viewer13128 a linear power supply uses a transformer ( = not switching mode power supply, SMPS) with voltage regulation like AUDIOPHONICS LPSU25 or AUNE XP2. You can not use a linear power supply on a Topping dx7 pro, because that has a build in power supply, a decent SMPS ( quality SMPS’s are getting better, like iFi xpower adapters)

[@MegaFabioRocks]

Very nice.. Can you close the dac with this opamp?

[@mubarak6670]

Hi Ed, quick question. Are you using Aune x8 or the newer Aune x8 xviii model to run the staccato opamp? Pls advise because I have the newer Aune x8 xviii with the staccato opamp and it is not for working for me (only pulsating sound is generated). Thanks.

[@nc3419]

Which PS do you use and where did you purchase? As to staccato, I reached out to them for a recommendation and they were upfront in disclosing an issue they had with the previous version of the Aune x8, not knowing how the 18th would respond. I would be interested in the Staccato if issues have been resolved.

[@steee_vie]

Hey, I really like your videos, very interesting and understandable! Have you ever thought about trying this with the Topping d10s and it's dedicated socket to change opamps? This ~100euro DAC combined with one of the burr brown chips would be a really budget combo as these chips sell for some Euro...

[@jackdanyal4329]

if you will hear any differences. especially from 1 opamp :)

[@giuseppecassano7071]

I have d10s and sparkos, it's fantastic, much better of topping e50 and smsl do200

[@oscargranstrom3284]

​@@giuseppecassano7071I have a D10s and am thinking of buying a sparkos. Is it the sparkos labs ss3602 dual discrete opa dip8 you have? How did the op amp change the sound?

[@DerALTE332]

😉 Thanks for this ... I Bought it with SPARKOS Chip ... LEVEL UP MUSIC GEAR ! MUSIC AS IT IS ...

[@fahadahmad5234]

Thank for review, so if I have to spend around $300, Aune X8 will be the choice with Sparko's opamp, would you agree or you have other recommendations

[@nc3419]

That's what it would cost if both were on sale. Plan closer to $400 the rest of the time and a bit more if you need the BT version. From what I hear, that combo competes (not outright beats as you could prefer one over the other depending on your mood, the source, etc.)with anything up to double the price, perhaps more. Without the Sparkos op amp, it will sound like an average $300 dac...at least with the stock chip IMO.

[@mounirehab]

Very useful review, thank you...

[@PAULGRILL]

@iiWi Reviews Would you please revisit the review with the XP2 power supply added to the same config (X8 + Sparkos)? Seems that one can get a €1.500,- sound for a €480,- price.

[@kenr9447]

Thanks again for a great review. I have the Modi Multibit which I like. How do you think the Aune with the Sparkos might compare, and does the Ifi Zen DAC belong in the ring?

[@iiWiReviews]

This combination is more deteiled and more transparent than Mimby which is warmer and thicker in the bass and midbass. I would have to give a win to Aune/Sparkos here but Mimby still might suit your taste and your system better.

[@seanb3303]

When I hear you say an op amp or DAC reveals space in the recording, I assume you believe the space is already in the recording…but is it possible that the space isn’t in the recording and the electronics are adding it? Great video btw.

[@iiWiReviews]

When space is added by electronics (tubes in Freya preamp for example) you can tell because it's added in a similar way to many songs. When space is dag out of the recording itself, you can clearly differentiate it from one album to the next... Including very forward recordings without any space to speak of. In case of Aune/Sparkos combination, I feel it is the honest space that was on the recording itself.

[@mounirehab]

Very useful review.. thanks Can i replace any op amp with another one with no problem ?! Or it's like transistors, should be replaced with a matching one?!!!

[@iiWiReviews]

This one is a dual opamp that's used for both stereo channels. Some devices use several single opamps. You have to know if you need one or the other, but aside from that there isn't a lot of matching to worry about

[@Kwarkiemodo]

Nice review! Thanks. Im still searching for a good dac for listening to stereo music for my dad. Which is better? Aune X8 vs Geshelli Labs J2 ? AK or ES26/38 chipset? My dad is a audiofile so I bought him a raspberry pi with a hat on it as a dac but he didn't find the music full enough. Hopefully you can help me out. Otherwise I might be going for this one with the Sparkos chip on it.

[@johncallaghan3097]

Terrific review. How does it compare with the earmen Tradutto? Also, does it have a remote?

[@iiWiReviews]

This DAC doesn't have a remote. Tradutto sounds very similar to M500 MKII... So everything said about that DAC in comparison would stand for Tradutto too.

[@johncallaghan3097]

@@iiWiReviews Thanks. Not bad for half the price of the Tradutto, eh? 🙂

[@D1N02]

I finally got one. I actually preffered the installed njm5532JD over the Opa2134 by burr brown the opa sounded 2134 congested to me. I had a opa627 already. That already sounds much better. Sweet and detailed but lacking a bit of body, ordered the Sparkos. I experienced some dropouts with high res 96khz tracks. I never had that with the SMSL Sanskrit MkII that sat in it's spot before. Using the optical TOSlink.

[@mohammudnoor4071]

Hi...i am a big fan of your channel...need an opinion...do you prefer Aune X8 woth Sparkos op amp or smsl su9 Pro...please let me know so that i can make a purchase decision...thank you

[@radiospank]

Goood review and descriptions 😊

[@banginghats2]

Shame the op amp opening isn't on top, you could then try even bigger op amps like the Burson. I think if I tried your combination I'd use blu tack to stick some small oak cone feet to lift it. I usually prefer the sound of those kinds of feet to rubber ones and blu tack doesn't leave any residue if you reverse it.

[@joebrouillard565]

Thanks, great information. I have the Aune 10th version w/o the bottom trap door…can I easily replace opams in this Aune edition?

[@gdemirjian]

Like tube rolling. My vote for coolest DAC/preamp of the year!

[@Yuurrr]

Great video! Thumbs up! But, maybe you could help me a bit? :) How would you compare the Aune X8/Sparko op-amp combo with the Aune Flamingo? Is it worth the extra 160euro? I love listening to music, but am a layman when it comes to DACs etc. I want to get a DAC for my pc setup with PreSonus Eris 4.5 active speakers, so not the most audiophile setup, but I still would like to have a nice full sound because I listen alot to acoustic/rock/metal music genres and also can't stand really high pitced sounds. Or do you maybe have other DACs in mind which would provide this kind of sound for a more budget DAC? I don't think I can get the fullest out of an expensive dac with these active speakers? Thanks alot!

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

SRBOLJUB…JUST HERE TO SUPPORT YOUR CHANNEL AND HOPE SOME WANT THE FEW ACES IN THIS DAC 🤗😁👍😎💚💚💚

[@ekjellgren]

Tried the SS2590 vs the SS3602?

[@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120]

Its nice to be able to taylor the sound To your taste with your hifi system Its not one op amp is better than other Its the right op amp for you 😆 Thanks for the video .Your doing An amazing job !!

[@piktosonik7669]

Thank you very much for another great Dac review. I have à pair of Focal Chora 806 speakers. Great sound but sometimes too much forward midrange and dynamic. Which Dac or Dac+opamp combination could you advice to tame this 2 sound aspects with more smooth midrange(less forward) and more laid back presentation .Thanks to you and all the people that could suggest me some items in the 200-500 euros range. Peace

[@WorldView22]

That was unexpected from a $300 DAC. Are you really saying that with the Sparkos upgrade it reaches the level of D90 LE and Ares II and for some it might even be preferable?!

[@amanieux]

if sound improvement is so evident why dont aune ship with the sparkos op amp by default ? also a lot of quesionable choices : why no 4.4mm for headphones ? why no balanced out (without preamp) ? why all the front is cluttered with useless filters that no one can hear ? why not enough space to support sparkos under the body ?

[@nc3419]

Anyone know if only the Sparkos SS3602 is compatible? Or will the Sparkos SS 2590 Pro be compatible/or not and if so, fit in the housing? Thanks.

[@raymondyc]

Whether the ss2590 is compatible is dependent on your power supply. This opamp uses a bit more current than the SS3602. One feature of the SS2590 is the ability to adjust the DC offset at the output. It might be fine. I was building the Whammy headphone amp and was using the SS3602 and found the DC offset to be on the high side. That was why I switched to the SS2590. The SS2590 likes to be temperature stable and probably the SS3602 as well. If you are measuring the DC offset and happen to blow air on the opamp, you will see it swing. In the application on this device, the opamp is exposed so I don’t know how well it can be temperature stable. After changing to the SS2590, I was able to get my unit’s DC offset down to a fraction of a mV. It was around 100mV with the SS3602. Ideally, you want the offset to be zero. I don’t know if the SS2590 sound better than the SS3602. It as too difficult to compare since I would have to wait for the temperature to be stable before comparing. Oh, it will definitely won’t fit in your housing and will stick out like the SS3602.

[@anlemcsa132]

@@raymondyc if I don't use the op-amp in my Aune x8 for headphones, but use optics on one side and line output on the other, will the SS2590 sound better than the SS3602 and will I be able to hear the difference?

[@raymondyc]

⁠​⁠@@anlemcsa132 Hard to say. I don’t know if I can hear the difference. I never compared them side by side. I used the ss2590 because I can adjust the DC offset on the headphone I built.

[@anlemcsa132]

@@raymondyc thanks for replay

[@leo11877]

Does the OpAmp will work when the only DAC portion is used? For Line out or PreOut analogue outputs?

[@iiWiReviews]

It works for both outputs.

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

I already have the sparkos and op2134 opamps around. Am thinking about buying the unit. Would it benefit from using a linear power supply? If so, what's the voltage?

[@iiWiReviews]

Voltage is 9V and it would probably benefit from that too.. I just didn't have that voltage on me while testing it.

[@JoseFerreira-zb7wh]

@@iiWiReviews that way I'm not sure it is worth it over the smsl...adding a decent power supply would make it around the same price, and the smsl has added features like the headphone amp and a screen. 🤔

[@stephanevanrompaey5110]

Hi, thanks a lot for your reviews. What would a Aune X8 VIII add to my sound if I add it between my Bluesound Node 1 and my Atoll IN100SE Thanks in advance Stephane

[@andydj261]

Is the Burson Audio V6 Vivid Dual Opamp equal to the SQ of Sparkos SS3602 ??

[@thomasleong9401]

How about stack 2 opamps, does it sound best?

[@somebodyx]

There's no B154A op-amp type, maybe a batch code, you probably meant the classic 5532 also made by JRC

[@nc3419]

Has anyone used a Stacatto discrete op amp in the Aune x8 18th? I emailed the company and a rep stated they had some issues with compatibility regarding the Aune x8, specifically a previous model alluding to perhaps the SMPS may be the culprit (probably incompatible with the 18th Edition as well). Would a linear power supply perhaps fix the issue of an op amp biased to class A not getting sufficient power at idle?

[@tb-yf2sq]

Hi, I have X8 VIII BT. OSH-DHb op amp from the shelf does not work with my dac. But OSH-DHb op amp after Staccato priopriatory modification works properly. I recommend You to contact Them directly and enjoy the sound quality finally. Best regards

[@nc3419]

@@tb-yf2sq Thx. When I contacted them a couple of months ago, they stated they had issues. I guess they worked the issues out? I went with Sparkos and it works very well but wouldn't mind trying other quality op amps as well.

[@tb-yf2sq]

@@nc3419 issue is solved. Yesterday I received and launched second op amp. Everything works ok now. Regards

[@roberthesse5990]

Wow. Thanks for this review. Your DAC reviews are my gold standard. I’ve enjoyed the X8/Sparkos combination for a couple of years now but was toying with the idea of “upgrading “ to one of the SMSL DACs, eg M500 mkii which you reviewed favorably (I fancy being able to tweak the sound via 2nd and 3rd harmonics ). You’ve given me a good reason to postpone this (at least until you review the M500 mkiii). 👍🏻

[@haraldgmeiner4507]

You could try the Staccatoaudio OpAmp. Even better than the Sparkos, more musical! I tried Sparkos (the 3602 as well as the even better bigger one), several others, but the Staccatoaudio is the best in the X8 for me.

[@roberthesse5990]

@@haraldgmeiner4507 Which did you use?

[@haraldgmeiner4507]

@@roberthesse5990 I did use the Sparkos SS3602 for some time (and I liked it a lot), then I tried the Staccatoaudio (OSH-DHB) with very high feet on the X8. For me the sound was as detailed as with the Sparkos but with more emotions. Then I tried the Sparkos SS2590PRO. Clearly a great OpAmp, but in the end the sound was not as nice (for me) as with the Staccatoaudio.

[@roberthesse5990]

@@haraldgmeiner4507 Thanks 👍🏻

[@roberthesse5990]

@@haraldgmeiner4507 I’ve installed it; the DAC is on stilts and it sounds like vacuum tubes. Lovely. Thanks.

[@dajikbatarang1]

WIll you be reviewing that new Gustard r2r DAC, R26? Initial impressions look promising, but would be really curious of your opinion.

[@dobermanguy9437]

Hello I'm kind of new to the DAC I've been into stereo for many years and I just happened to come upon this it's just a digital to analog converter for like CDs watching the video to see exactly what this thing does I have a Yamaha integrated amplifier it puts out about 130 watts per Channel would I be able to hook this deck up to my CD player to my amp thank you

[@alexanderignatyev8175]

Hi! I wonder if anybody can help. Can’t choose between Aune X8 Magic XVIII and Geshelli Labs J2S. If I put Dual Sparkos Labs SS2590 into both of them? What will be the difference? Thanks in advance for the advice! P.S. Prefer less analytical sound

[@DSato-ei8jj]

I got the Gesheli Labs J2S thinking it would be better than my Aune X8. It wasn't and I sent it back and that's with just using the op-amps that came with the X8.

[@alexanderignatyev8175]

@@DSato-ei8jj Thanks a lot!

[@geoffreydebrito7934]

Discrete opamps are widely acknowledged to provide much superior sound to the inexpensive opamps commonly used by manufacturers. I'm gratified that you mentioned that, when inserted the sparkos opamp extends out enough that the AUNE's cover plate cannot be reattached. That's probably the case with any competing discrete opamp. That may or may not matter to some purchasers but care must be taken when moving the DAC, as it could otherwise be damaged if moved carelessly. Replacing the feet and covering the sparkos would obviously lessen the chance of damage. It's not surprising that the $380.00 Aune/Sparkos combo would fail to match the $1,100.00 MusiCian Pegasus. I would love to see you report on any DAC you have on hand with the AUNE X5s 8th Anniversary Edition Digital Desktop Music Player. It too costs $299. and can be connected to an external clock for even higher fidelity. I would also love to see you report on MusiCian Audio's MDP-2 Digital Player connected to the Pegasus. FWIW, Sarajan Ebaen, editor of the 6 moons high end audiophile website strongly prefers the fidelity of file card playback over streaming for critical listening. He attributes that partially to the avoidance of sending the signal through Ethernet equipment and cabling. Thank you for the work you do in reviewing inexpensive, high performing equipment.

[@mr_mad_scientist]

Great review as always, Srboljub. Have you happened to hear HifiMan EF400? It's an R2R DAC/Headphone Amp for $600. I'd love to hear your opinion about how this DAC compares to SMSL M500 mkII and Denafrips Area II / Musician Pegasus. Greetings from Germany :)

[@leo11877]

How does this compare to the Geshelli J2 which is the same price range with USB module. Also is it worth upgrading from Topping E30 old version.

[@thatchinaboi1]

Which op amp in combination with the DAC and a tube preamp would you recommend? I already have great holographic imaging and soundstage from the tube preamp.

[@elmonte5lim]

All grist to the mill. Thanks, man.

[@MegaFabioRocks]

Against ares II?

[@iiWiReviews]

Ares II sounds bigger and bolder, but less precise. Ares II has that bloom in the sound that sounds very appealing but also blurs fine deteils. It's a matter of preference and system maching...but I would personally rather use Aune with Sparkos.

[@MegaFabioRocks]

@@iiWiReviews I bought s9pro, dh80s, and now... This?! Lol, you are killing me! Jokes apart if performance are ares II level.. it is a bargain. Maybe I can start with the burr brown opamp that is cheaper and upgrade later.. As always, killer review.

[@Viewer13128]

21:32 Musician Pegasus R2R DAC LADDER Schumann DAC

[@hdsarma]

Is the X8 internal design fully balanced or the balanced TRS out is just for convinience only.

[@shs747]

So I just got an E30 II, was thinking about this Aune and swapping opamps. How would you compare the two? Is it worth ordering the Aune and selling the E30 II, or should I move to something more expensive? Listening only through speakers. Thanks!

[@iiWiReviews]

My E30 II unit is on the way but I haven't received it yet. When I do I'll do a review. But I expect Aune with Sparkos (or even Burr Brown) to sound fuller and lusher.

[@shs747]

@@iiWiReviews thanks, guess I can wait a bit and see what you think.

[@Orpheuss62]

@iiWi Reviews - Hi, do you think it deserve to buy this Dac, over my Hegel H80 integrated Dac ? will be better?

[@nc3419]

If it is anything like the dac in my Hegel h160, it will be closer than you expect. Sort of like the difference between the Aune (w/Sparkos) and Topping. You might prefer some aspect of the Hegel over the Aune and vice versa. My D70S is close to the Hegel, the difference is the D70s is warmer, with the Hegel having a bit better separation, similar in many other respects. I can prefer one over the other depending on music. The Aune vs the D70s is similar to how the D90Le was described. The D70S has sharper edges, is a bit more dynamic while the Aune is a bit smoother, a bit less dynamic in its presentation. With well recorded music, there's a bit more depth in the stage. In some ways they are equally capable. The D70s is better built though and offers much more features. Compared to the one in your Hegel, I don't know if spending the cost of the Aune and sparkos, perhaps a linear PS would be worth it for what you might gain in one area but give up in another. But for a desktop system on the right speakers and amp, it cuts a nice image of the performance. Good in non nearfield as well. Better suited for music but good for soundtracks as well. For anyone with an integrated amp that doesn't have a dac built in, I would easily recommend the Aune and sparkos combo, especially at sale prices. While it might not outright beat the closer to a grand dacs, it won't embarrass itself. Perhaps the higher priced chip dacs and R2R will beat the one in the Hegel...but one could also end up preferring one over the other depending on the recorded source material. Not bad for a dac and opamp for less than $450 retail+tax. If only Aune would make their linear power supply more easily available as an upgrade.

[@pef1960]

Have you tried the ifi DSD Neo. Would be interested in what you think.

[@slavkorodic1333]

Pozdrav Srbo, iako sam propratio sve tvoje raporte molio bih ipak za preporuku (izbor) DAC-a do 450 eur (AUNE MAGIC X8+Sparkos/SMSL M500 MKII/SMSL DO200 MKII/GUSTARD DAC-X16 MQA) ili ipak još par meseci štednje za ARES II / PEGAZUS ??? Hvala!!!

[@robertfournier7050]

You don't have to spend big bucks for great sound. Op amps changed out can give definitely high end audio sound.

[@AromaFrank]

Hi, thanks so much for ur informative reviews! Do you think it’s even better if I connect it to a Linear power supply?

[@iiWiReviews]

I didn't have any 9V LPS at the moment so haven't tried it. But if I've learned anything from testing this many DACs is that every DAC reacts positively to a higher quality power supply. Even if manufacturer claims it doesn't (khm, Chord, khm) in reality it really does.

[@AromaFrank]

@@iiWiReviews Ok great and thanks! Would you pls like to recommend me to a good LPS ?

[@LorDarkGoose]

Does the lid fit back over the Sparkos opamp? It looks like it's going to protrude too far out for it to fit back in. Cheers. (never mind- just watched to the end and saw your disclaimer!)

[@nk-gp1ml]

Did you actually watch the video?

[@LorDarkGoose]

@@nk-gp1ml apparently you can’t even read to the end of my comment nevermind the end of the video 🙈

[@petko9133]

and Topping plus Sparkos opamp makes one dac for 2500, right?