Aurasound Pro Compared to Buttkicker Mini LFE For Home Theater

Let's upgrade the new Aurasound Pro Bass shakers to Buttkicker Mini LFE units and see who's boss! I was happy with the volume of the Aurasound but wanted more extension to at least 10. Did the Buttkicker deliver?
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[@COGuyStuff]

Let's upgrade the new Aurasound Pro Bass shakers to Buttkicker Mini LFE units and see who's boss! I was happy with the volume of the Aurasound but wanted more extension to at least 10. Did the Buttkicker deliver? Buttkicker: amzn.to/2YpzHJ4

[@justkiddin1980]

Hey man don’t want to hate on the setup but i think you need to take a look at your amplifier..i don’t think that amp can play that low...

[@gavinchoate]

I looked through the comments and didn’t see the name of the iPad app you were using. Can you share the app name?

[@justplainlawr]

Fun video! Thanks for sharing the measurements!

[@thefantasticadventuresofmr7126]

AWSOME video. I just picked up two concert buttkickers but haven’t bought the 3000w amp to run them. Can’t wait to see what the 3lb magnet will feel like on the sofa.

[@LazayLada]

Keep em coming! These vids are perfect!

[@Jared-sh2wz]

In your data at 19:00, which is for the Aura shakers, it hits almost 0.6g in the first frequency and roughly 0.2g in the other frequencies. At 19:03, which is the Buttkickers, the first frequency only gets to just barely over 0.2g and the rest looks about the same or less than the Auras. I'm sure what you're feeling is probably different from what the numbers actually show, but according to your data, the Aura bass shakers are transferring much more energy into your tablet than the Buttkicker Mini bass shakers at the first frequency. You have to look at the range on the right side of the tablet. The range for the Auras goes from 0g to 0.6g and the Buttkicker range only goes from 0g to 0.4g. Going strictly by the numbers, I would pick the Aurasound Pro bass shakers. Even at the lowest frequencies, the Auras are getting over 0.1g and the Buttkickers appear to only get less than 0.05g. Like I said, what you actually feel in your environment is probably different from the numbers, and you obviously subjectively prefer the Buttkickers in your environment. Thanks for all the testing and data!

[@COGuyStuff]

That tab,et app is nothing like reality. You are putting faaaaar too much thought and stock in to it lol. The buttkickers are on another level in real life.

[@jqcbigdog]

We love upgrades 😄😄😄

[@MtnXfreeride]

Whoa now I was one of those people who posted the aura bass shakers on the floor not attached to anything in a video on youtube like 7 or 10 years ago haha. I still love my shakers many years later, curious if there was something with more power available for a little more.

[@silinusvers]

I'm kinda leaning towards the auras because my reciever has 100w per channel, I want the buttkicker but I would have to get an amp to power it

[@myweirdtaste8090]

What's the iPad app called?

[@gavinchoate]

@COGuyStuff I have the same question - what is the app you’re using? Thanks!

[@ministrinity2830]

may i know what the app is called for testing?

[@123Hasse]

Clever test. What app do you use for measuring?

[@antiWhiteism777]

​@COGuyStuff --- Do a review of the Gamepod 1.5 and Interactor Cushion!

[@NickGiordano-zu4em]

Madmax FR is bass heavy , I have 8 buttkickers and 2 QSC Amps and love the transducer setup , I picked up a limiter it’s from pro audio I paid 100 used on eBay and it creates a ceiling as far as being a limiter and it’s my newest upgrade no more bottoming out plus you can run stronger signal overall knowing there is a limit in place , best mod for $100

[@NickGiordano-zu4em]

I was contemplating crowson but figure I would try a limiter , I do want to try a crowson

[@Drew7321]

After watching this video, I decided to give the mini LFE buttkickers a shot. Not off to a good start. For some reason, they shipped separately and the first one to arrive rattles like a jackhammer. While I could lubricate it, I shouldn't need to. There are some qc issues in any industry. I plan to check the second one out when it arrives. I did notice that my aura, in a side by side, seemed to shake down to frequencies I didn't realize it did. I can't legitimately compare it to the buttkicker as the buttkicker is clearly not operating correctly. Hopefully I get the same improvements you found.

[@demonreturns4336]

So what ended up happening?

[@Drew7321]

@@demonreturns4336 I tried to better isolate my couch, but ultimately ended up sending the Buttkickers back and keeping my Aura setup.

[@jamrock_2020]

Can it be installed under the bed and get the same effect

[@kenshinesca]

I'm going with two Dayton BST_1 shakers and two Aurasound shakers. To see if there is much difference.

[@COGuyStuff]

Not much between those two, they are both entry level.

[@ranakirti]

Results?

[@pauledwards8721]

Love the Home Theater videos, have been watching quite a few of them through lockdown improving my home setup and things have moved on quite a long way. One thing I've circled back to (which is how I found you on KZbin) is Bass Shakers.. (now I have the sub bass sorted :-) Loved the review of Buttkicker Mini LFE vs the Auras.. (which swayed me to get a Buttkicker).... then the main dealer over here in the UK suggested I look at the Earthquake MQB-1 instead as it's their go to shaker? (or the Aura). They sell all 3 brands but they think the Earthquake unit is the best fit for most setups as it has a small footprint, gives great output, high sensitivity and is apparently the quietest itself when listening at lower volumes, where as the Buttkickers can often be heard buzzing (or even bottoming out if pushed too hard). On paper the Earthquakes seem to be listed down to 15Hz but I've read people say they're good down to 10Hz. Was the Earthquake something you considered? I mostly listen at about -26 -> -24db level and don't run my sub too hot over it's 75db calibrated level as I have a wood floor (carpeted though) but directly attached neighbors :-( I was thinking a shaker is what I need to keep the sub a little lower but keep that tactile feel.

[@COGuyStuff]

I looked at it but wanted more range. The bk go down to almost 0

[@pauledwards8721]

@@COGuyStuff Do you ever notice general operation sound coming from your BKs themselves at lower listening levels? (i.e. -30db from Ref) or are they pretty silent when dialed in well?

[@Nobodyanybody778]

Great comparison ! Thank you for the video . How do these compare to the Crowson Motion Actuators ?

[@COGuyStuff]

There is no comparison between any piston based shaker and the crowson. The crowsons hit harder, completely linear and down to 1hz

[@jasonburns6411]

Part of me wishes you had a dedicated media room.. only to gawk at all the cool shit you’d buy for it!

[@COGuyStuff]

Tell me about it lol

[@AdamKali-lp9fx]

Where do you get your mounts from?

[@COGuyStuff]

I make them

[@gabrielmoralesvelez]

Hi, It's possible to connect this system to a sound bar home theater system like a Nakamichi Shockwafe Ultra 9.2?

[@jamesrobinson1579]

Just curious if you have checked the frequency response of your source and your amp? It is not at all uncommon for them not to expend energy below the threshold of "human hearing"... so not much below 20Hz or above 20kHz... That applies to your player too. You may want to verify the 3bB (half the amplitude) down point of each part of your chain and not just the transducer. The transducer can be able to get really low but it won't move if it is not being fed.

[@COGuyStuff]

Lol far below and above. I have response to low single digits in the seats

[@richardlwellington]

So one thing that I am confused about (among other things), is, are people hooking up this to there receivers? So far from different people videos that I have watched only show them with 5 different amps, simulation kits, individual control systems and ETC. Never showing if they have them hooked up a receiver. I’ve modify my search on KZbin 3 different time and alway the same thing. Do you have yours hooked up to a receiver?

[@reviewgodusa9613]

You hook up an amp to the receiver. Specifically the lfe. and then connect the shakers to the amp.

[@reviewgodusa9613]

@@asyouwish9567 shut up moron I wasnt talking to you

[@silinusvers]

Would you say the auras are good enough? Do you really need anything below 20hz, does it really add to the experience? My reciever does 100w per channel,20hx cut off, which can power the aura fine, but buttkicker, even the small ones are all power hungry from what I hear so I would need to buy an amp

[@reviewgodusa9613]

Is it a night and day difference?

[@COGuyStuff]

Yes

[@reviewgodusa9613]

@@COGuyStuff i cant afford the buttkickers. Will i be satisfied with the auras or do they suck and i might as well save up for the buttkickers or get nothing?

[@abgersaurus]

@@reviewgodusa9613 I have the auras and they are great for an entry level, but only if you use them in conjuction with the bass otherwise they become too gimmicky, they go reasonably deep by themselves. I run them on "low volume" from a old subwoofer amp, they really perform great on "Prometheus" with the spaceship flying in the intro (start from 2 min all the way to 4 minutes in, same for "Tron legacy" where the guy gets picked up by the first ship about 25 minutes in I wish that I had gotten shakers before I did, but I can never go back. I myself am going to upgrade to the LFE minis just because I want a tiny amount more shaking since my single 12" (sealed) only goes down to 27Hz and the way I use my shakers is as a measure to fill in the sound gap from 50 hz and below where my sub struggles, that way I can atleast feel what the bass otherwise can't produce at the same volume, it really helps alot I think that you might be satisfied with the Auras, but there is no replacement for multiple huge subs that move a lot of air that you can feel in your chest :)

[@reviewgodusa9613]

@@abgersaurus how do they compare to the dolby cinema shakers? I basically want that. If you've ever been to one

[@abgersaurus]

@@reviewgodusa9613 I don't think I have ever tried that, allthough I have some seats from my local cinema and they pair up nicely. I highly doubt that they are the same though a cinema is usually a lot different from a smaller home theater with different acoustics and "atmosphere", also cinemas have HUGE subs so for me its hard to tell if the chairs would be shaking with the transducers or from sheer bass alone... hmm

[@j4s0nm1cha3l]

Can you reccommed bass shaker with frequency range between 3hz - 70hz? Or at least what is near to that spesification.🙏

[@COGuyStuff]

Buttkicker or crowson

[@j4s0nm1cha3l]

@@COGuyStuff thanks.🙏

[@neosmith3633]

Buttkicker LFE, Clark Synthesis Platinum, or Crowson Motion system.

[@Coffeedad]

so i nor my wife has heard or felt bassshakers. i have to subs. are the bass shaker a good buy. or just as good of bass without the shakers?

[@COGuyStuff]

Subs alone can not duplicate what transducers do, not even close. The combo is a huge step up.

[@Paranimal86]

Hey curious since it seems those butt kickers require more amplification... don’t you think you would be better off at running just 2? And you would get better performance than running 4? Can you run a test with just 2 and see if you get even more impact since those 2 would be using more of their potential?

[@COGuyStuff]

No

[@93redcamaroz28]

Yeah, our local atmos theater uses 1 per seat and this guy using 2 per seat… waste of energy and money.

[@MrOkcyurwin]

Tactile Transducers need a run in period to loosen up like speakers. The new buttkickers should work betterment once used for a couple of films👍

[@COGuyStuff]

Rotf uh, no. Wherever you read that garbage, it was someone else repeating nonsense. Buttkicker are a floating metal piston in a magnetic field. No contact or moving parts against each other. Nothing changes.

[@764bastien]

Are they make distracting noise when you watch movies ?

[@COGuyStuff]

Not at all

[@SeriousASMR]

Why are you mounting them that way I thought there was supposed to go the other direction and directly on to the frame Maybe This is why you're not feeling it as much.

[@COGuyStuff]

Nope, you can mount them in any orientation.

[@VirtualRobotsRevolt]

Would these be felt a lot more if they were mounted in a different way? From the looks of it, I think the board getting stabilized by the metal frame and would make the vibration less powerful.

[@COGuyStuff]

The mount boars are very solid and rigid. No loss.

[@TheObserver567]

@@COGuyStuff but the couch is absorbing the low frequency waves. You also have 4 units. Make sure they are in sync or will possibly have wave cancellation

[@BrandonDmv]

Possibly your amp doesn't have enough range itself

[@COGuyStuff]

Nope. Goes down to 1. Ran it with my crowsons.

[@SerafinTirado471]

Amps only reproduce down to 20 Hertz same thing with recorded material. The basskicker can only reprodure what information it receive. Speaker can go lower do to acoustic property and box Design. It's about physics.

[@COGuyStuff]

ROTF, uh, wrong. I don’t know where you read that bullshit but find another source for your info lol

[@kdub1666]

It's MUCH more challenging to push a significant amount of air with a diaphragm at single digit frequencies than spin an unbalanced motor at the same frequency. Different amps have different function and specs. Crowson motion amps go down to 5hz.