Drukhari Unit Tier List in Warhammer 40K 10th Edition - Strongest + Weakest Index Drukhari Units

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@auspextactics
@auspextactics 7 ай бұрын
CORRECTIONS: - Ravager re-rolls 1 to it against undamaged targets (not damaged targets as I said!) - Grotesques are T5 (not T6) Apologies for the errors and thanks for pointing them out!
@ryanjacobs5958
@ryanjacobs5958 7 ай бұрын
Grotesques showing up as t5 in my warhammer app?
@endisut1635
@endisut1635 7 ай бұрын
Grotesques are T5, not T6 (wish they did get an increase in toughness like every other thing in the game tho)
@paroxysmal2645
@paroxysmal2645 7 ай бұрын
Unless there has been a change, too, I don't think Scourges get Battle Host re-rolls in an Ynnari list.
@kwombok
@kwombok 7 ай бұрын
@@paroxysmal2645Unparalleled Foresight uses the "aeldari" keyword, all drukhari have the aeldari keyword, so it works surprised i don't see more ynnari reavers because 60pts for a rerolling WS3 S14 heat lance seems amazing
@paroxysmal2645
@paroxysmal2645 7 ай бұрын
@kwombok you're right! I was so sure that Drukhari were locked out of the whole deal, but they would get that single re-roll. I do wish there was an Ynnari detachment to allow stratagems and things for them though
@stripeybag6977
@stripeybag6977 7 ай бұрын
I swear to God every time I see something involving Drukhari I always see a new unit because I have never seen a Beast Master before.
@pieterhellemans1190
@pieterhellemans1190 7 ай бұрын
That's because gw don't sell him anymore so noone has any way of getting the models except for paying outrageous prices on ebay
@thedandy6765
@thedandy6765 7 ай бұрын
@@pieterhellemans1190 3D printing goes BRRRRRR
@spnked9516
@spnked9516 7 ай бұрын
A 1/3 of the roster isnt accessible by official means. Want models like the beast master, the Archon's court, or Vect? Better warm up your 3D printer or shell out big bucks in the third party market. Dark Eldar are not a pleasant faction to collect - hence their low player count and sales numbers.
@benn1181
@benn1181 7 ай бұрын
I have a metal one I still haven't painted after like 13 years.
@williambryant6175
@williambryant6175 2 ай бұрын
@@spnked9516Tbf, Vect hasn’t had rules for several editions now. As to Beastmaster/Beasts/CotA, yeah, that is annoying, but since they were all either Failcast or metal, I’m hoping they’ll get new sculpts when the ‘dex drops
@haraldbredsdorff2699
@haraldbredsdorff2699 7 ай бұрын
Wraks have one advantage. When they die, they give you a pain token. Meaning you can put them in front to make the opponent have to decide. Remove them and give you pain token, or ignore them and allow you to screen and maybe even get objects. Not sure, if that is good enough to move them up a tier or not. I suspect much of these tiers will change when we get the codex and a Haemonculus Coven and a Wych Cult detachment.
@spnked9516
@spnked9516 7 ай бұрын
I would simply because of how heavily 10ed DE rely on pain tokens. It's a win more/lose more mechanic. If you don't pick up enough of them earlier you just tend to lose. Conversely, I'd drop wyches down a tier. GW effectively turned them horde unit that require you to run Lelith if you want them running anywhere near what they should be. By themselves, they don't hard enough to justify their glass cannon status, so they only really serve as meat shields for your dark lance units.
@BlaskoXX
@BlaskoXX 7 ай бұрын
TIER 5 2:07 Voidraven bomber and Razorwing jetfighter 3:17 Hellions TIER 4 4:06 Succubus 5:06 Urien Rakarth 6:05 Haemonculus 6:58 Court of the archon 8:06 Grotesques TIER 3 9:17 Wracks 10:32 Wyches 11:37 Reavers TIER 2 12:29 Cronos 14:02 Talos 14:58 Kabalite warriors 16:00 Ravager 16:36 Beastmaster 17:42 Drazhar 18:28 Tantalus TIER 1 19:46 Incubi 21:04 Archon 22:29 Scourges 23:51 Mandrakes 25:12 Raider and Venom 27:09 Lelith Hesperax
@galling2052
@galling2052 7 ай бұрын
court is questionable for comp yes, but perfectly fine in casual. Drop em in a tantalus with archon and kabalistes and see them go to town with rerolls everything lethals, ignores cover and sustained 2... Granted you would have to play on a table where you can hide the aburdly siced made of paper tantalus in the first place.
@whitefamilliar3057
@whitefamilliar3057 7 ай бұрын
The beast master should absolutely be tier one. The scout move allows early capture enemy outposts, and behind enemy lines with the massive scout move. Its got a ton of wounds for someone to chew through as well and is great for screening out no mans land to protect your force from early charges or to take a commanding amount if space on the board to stop t2 deepstrikes. I would always take 1 or maybe 2 no question. Biggest issue is figuring out how to represent them on table lol
@williambryant6175
@williambryant6175 2 ай бұрын
When I’ve seen them, it’s usually modified Hellions. Not like many people are using Hellions as intended recently, lol
@GaryP336
@GaryP336 7 ай бұрын
The court isnt tier 4. You break up a kabalite squad with a venom. Then attach them to a 5 with archeon in a raider. Then they are pretty good
@auspextactics
@auspextactics 7 ай бұрын
I must admit I was a bit unclear on that interaction so left it out for sake of not making an error. That does sound like a pretty fun dangerous unit (if quite a pricy one I guess)
@BoM97652
@BoM97652 7 ай бұрын
I am new to playing WH40k. What rule is about this squad breaking up mechanic? I haven't seen anything like that in 10th ed.
@Stradus07
@Stradus07 7 ай бұрын
The venom allows you to split a 10 man warrior or wych squad into 2-5 man units. Attach the archon to 1 of them. Then attach the court making a 10 model unit. The court has some handy buffs. Fights 1st and -1 to wound. My last game vs orks they were very handy.
@BoM97652
@BoM97652 7 ай бұрын
@@Stradus07Ah, so it's a venom specific thing. That wasn't clear to me, but I could find it on the datasheet now. Thanks
@OniGanon
@OniGanon 7 ай бұрын
@@BoM97652 Not Venom specific, it's a rule of a lot of 6 person transports.
@PoYi-fi1zt
@PoYi-fi1zt 7 ай бұрын
When hellions gets pumpkin bombs they might feel right~~
@Lowlandlord
@Lowlandlord 7 ай бұрын
Laughs in Green Goblin!
@emilyforsberg2055
@emilyforsberg2055 7 ай бұрын
God speed spiderman
@Psychosurgeonpls
@Psychosurgeonpls 7 ай бұрын
flying up to fabius bile 'nnhhaaaa suck my splinter pods, spider chump!"
@captaincoolbreeze9429
@captaincoolbreeze9429 7 ай бұрын
The Ravager special ability allows it to re-roll 1s to hit if the unit it targeted is at its starting strength which does seem weird, both rules-wise and fluff-wise, and could be a mistake made by GW's rules team. It would seem more in line with how Drukari operate and mechanically for in game to get those re-rolls against a wounded target rather than a full-strength target.
@deanwells4520
@deanwells4520 7 ай бұрын
Just starting a 4 warlords build with 3 friends and I picked the Drukhari, I was really regretting my choice until this video. Really helpful.
@mikecosby40KAbridged
@mikecosby40KAbridged 7 ай бұрын
For Skysplinter specifically, I think Talos are down to T3. They are easily one of the most efficent units in the index, but they take so many points away from what Skyplinter wants, which is units in transports. Hellions need 1 keyword added back to have any discussion of usability. Infantry. Last edition they would blow throw a ruin that Reavers had to go around. As long as they are mounted they will always be bad Reavers.
@Xolcor
@Xolcor 7 ай бұрын
Even though the Bomber was nerfed (unnecessarily), I dont think it deserves tier 5. It’s Dark Scythes have been great in 2 of my recent games, and its still the only reliable Marine killing gun we have. I think maybe low tier 4 is more fair.
@Fauxmadd
@Fauxmadd 7 ай бұрын
Bombers were auto take, now they are optional, they still are perfect fine and a B tier unit for DE, no where near as bad as RWJF or Hellions, heck you could take 1 in comp and be fine especially with the 4++ stratagem. Court are also new the top as well Tier 2 for your scale easily, they give the kabals major buffs and our of a transport with Lance, the unit already gives lethal hits, fighters first, and -1w, the Archon re-roll hits and wounds with a PT, the unit punch up hard for 85pts. Raider+Venom means when you get out of the raider the 4 weapons are anti-cover with lethal, rr all hits/wounds, they charge and do damage in melee as well. If near a transport with the enhancement the unit also now is stealth and cover from shooting, adding that -1 to wound rule from the Sslyth it gets tanky for a unit that already traded.
@tacitus6384
@tacitus6384 10 күн бұрын
The Succubus model is fantastic. She makes a great model for a variety of other uses too, like as an Archon, a Chaos Lord (in Fantasy or WH40k), a Dark Elf lord, a Vampire Count in Warhammer the Old World, or an edgy paladin for Dungeons and Dragons etc.
@apanasonicyouth8776
@apanasonicyouth8776 7 ай бұрын
This comes out right as my Drukhari Combat Patrol comes in the mail 😎 love the content AT!
@anophelesnow3957
@anophelesnow3957 7 ай бұрын
Good for you, it's a great box. I'm having one soon to expand my Craftworlds to Ynnari. Too good to miss.
@kandrenai
@kandrenai 5 ай бұрын
While aircraft are generally unoptimal, Skari has been finding success with this one double Voidraven Bomber list. I think the bomber at least deserves tier 4.
@willshields4480
@willshields4480 Ай бұрын
The double voidraven bomber list isn't even a meme. It's really good and people don't expect it at all.
@rickkcir2151
@rickkcir2151 7 ай бұрын
Quick lore question. Does Slaanesh want to kill the Drukhari like she does the Aeldari? Obviously Slaany wants to give all the elf souls the big schlurrp. As she should, they are rightfully hers. But wouldn’t the actions of the Drukhari directly benefit her in the warp? They’re basically unintentional Slaanesh cultists right?
@pieterhellemans1190
@pieterhellemans1190 7 ай бұрын
All the pain and torture they inflict on their slaves forms a sort of shield to slaanesh, it protects their souls from being torn apart. When they enter realspace for raids however slaanesh starts sucking their souls dry immediately, and they then must return to commoragh to recover their souls in all the pain and ecstasy that happens there. So they can't exist in realspace for long or they will be corrupted entirely by slaanesh. Of course you are correct that in doing so they are essentially doing the same thing as slaanesh cultists, just for different reasons
@daklr2501
@daklr2501 7 ай бұрын
If you read the drukhari lore, like the second thing it says in their codex is that for their decadent ways their souls are constantly and slowly being drained by slaanesh, so now they need to inflict suffering on others to rejuvenate themselves, body and soul, like one needs to breathe, eat, or drink water. According to the ynnari books they can go a few days without living off the suffering of others, but it causes their skin to prune up and their bodies to age rapidly. However in the path of the eldar books there is one case of an ex drukhari finding redemption, but as a consequence of their past, they still cannot use spirit stones (suppose it's called the path of damnation for a reason, dark eldar tarnish all spirit stones they touch, btw). I guess your best chance as a dark eldar might be gambling your soul with ynnead or cegorach.
@Sorth31
@Sorth31 7 ай бұрын
Not entirely sure what current canon is, but back when the Dark Eldar were first introduced back in 1998 (damn I'm old now) it was hinted/spelled out that Commoragh basically existed outside of the influence of chaos due to being constructed entirely in the webway which unless they manage to breach the powers of chaos can't influence. The Dark Eldar could do whatever they wanted and none of the repercussions, theoretically, reached the warp (though there's always going to be some way for the gods to get what they want and there's no way the webway is completely fool proof. Also as soon as they left the webway all bets were off.) It's one reason why they hunt down and kill active psykers, they're an active threat to the stability of the city and can essentially plunge entire regions of it into the warp. Combine that with the Dark Eldar drawing strength from suffering and it's essentially each of them playing a game of tug-of-war with a chaos god but trying to hide behind a handful of flimsy barricades/fog of war. But yes, essentially you are correct. They're the remnants of the cults that actually birthed Slaanesh, so you could arguably even say that since they're well aware of the repercussions of what they do that at this point they're not even unintentional cultists anymore. Just unwilling/nihilistic ones.
@-Blackberry
@-Blackberry 7 ай бұрын
The actions of the Drukhari do benefit Slaanesh indirectly but he/she/they would still much rather gobble them all up if given the chance.
@inkslingerdrew
@inkslingerdrew Ай бұрын
thinking about playing again, id have to start from scratch its been years. i was playing a homunculus themed army full of wracks grotesques an pain engines, was fun but idk about competitive.
@acekkkkkk
@acekkkkkk 2 ай бұрын
fitting that Skari just made a crazy long livestream going through all units and his insights on why they are good and units like court, Urien, Grotesque score way better with Skari due to lots of tactical reasons. T1 seems about right though :)
@gunnertlc7728
@gunnertlc7728 7 ай бұрын
Crazy how much has changed since the last time I played s few years ago
@Sonof_DRN2004
@Sonof_DRN2004 7 ай бұрын
Well I’m proud of myself because I’ve played a game against a dark eldar army that was mostly tier 1 stuff, and did extremely well.
@brycedery9596
@brycedery9596 7 ай бұрын
Tier 1 for Dark Eldar is like being the tallest midget.
@Your_PiedPiper
@Your_PiedPiper 7 ай бұрын
Dark eldar is shit army
@joshuajanus1253
@joshuajanus1253 7 ай бұрын
I think these tier lists are my favourite of yours Auspex! The strengths and weaknesses are a close second. My friends and I have jumped on to the tabletop with this edition and despite being somewhat hot on the lore, we know little of what's worth spending our money on. Of course we know that meta changes and we should go with what we like aesthetically, but for example, I purchased a Canoptek Doomstalker when before I did so I thought a Triach Stalker would be a decent addition to the army but your videos showed me the weakness of the stalker. Always a head-scratcher that by the 10th edition of the game, there are such outliers such as flyers.
@Megalithyca
@Megalithyca 6 ай бұрын
Hellions always seem to do wonders for me
@TheMuddleHeadedAnalyst
@TheMuddleHeadedAnalyst 4 ай бұрын
Would it be worth it to buy a voidraven or Razorwing? I like how they look, and am interested in getting Drukhari as my main faction, to run Harlequins alongside.
@runeh3022
@runeh3022 7 ай бұрын
It think it would have been a cool idea if Urien and perhaps the generic Homonculus could have access to an improved Grotesque model as type of bodyguard. The FNP buff idea to grotesques would also be nice tbh. I man, if you can make Grotesques in a society where averyone wants you dead at one time or other, it wouldn't be unreasonable to make oneself a Grotuesque-type bodyguard. Could even be a small unit in the style of the Court of the Archaon.
@keirhardy6470
@keirhardy6470 7 ай бұрын
While helions are crap I'll still be taking them because i love those silly little guys and gals
@snorri788
@snorri788 7 ай бұрын
Same here I love the models.
@variableaxis9652
@variableaxis9652 7 ай бұрын
They were my first dark eldar unit as well as one of my favourites in 8th and 9th, you bet I’m still running them.
@aiko615
@aiko615 7 ай бұрын
Lelith are AP-4 with wyches and token :)
@tsquare2654
@tsquare2654 6 ай бұрын
Wyches Hekatarii blades are AP1+ Lelith AP+1 + Token AP+1 = AP3
@SneakyBeeBuzzBuzz
@SneakyBeeBuzzBuzz 5 ай бұрын
@@tsquare2654 Think he's talking about Lelith herself, mate She's AP-2 base, -1 for Token, -1 for her leading a unit = AP4
@_SLaaiSouS_
@_SLaaiSouS_ 7 ай бұрын
Nice, was looking forward to this
@nielsjensen4185
@nielsjensen4185 7 ай бұрын
I think that Hellions should just get Lance if they charge, full stop. No price increase for it.
@snorri788
@snorri788 7 ай бұрын
Give them the infantry keyword. Then they would be much better.
@DarthABBA
@DarthABBA 6 ай бұрын
Dark Eldar have the same tactic every edition it feels like- Warriors in Raiders/Venoms, Ravagers, Incubi, Archons.
@axel9937
@axel9937 7 ай бұрын
Well looks like my army is full of T1 T2 (i like kabal). Hopefully we are not an unfair army so my casual group will be fine.
@kaleth6873
@kaleth6873 7 ай бұрын
Grots are T5 not 6 also ravagers reroll 1s against UNHURT units not hurt units.
@cornmaized
@cornmaized 7 ай бұрын
talos being tier 2 has me personally offended, so imma bring six of them to LSO XD
@iankirkland8245
@iankirkland8245 7 ай бұрын
Considering he was basing the list off skysplinter it’s fair actually. They are a self sufficient efficient unit, but get no benefit from the detachment or stratagems. meaning you take out transports and transport capable units to field them since you are probably not dropping scourge or objective play units for them. They are teir one in real space raid with -1 to wound strat and not as much need for transports and melee infantry.
@cornmaized
@cornmaized 6 ай бұрын
@@iankirkland8245true, but im still running skysplinter as they are as you said, very self sufficient. im considering bumping it down to just 4 though, as the beastmaster is very good and i want to include them
@spnked9516
@spnked9516 7 ай бұрын
It still boils my blood that dark lance spam is still the only effective way to play DE. Im fine with dark lances being strong, but having every decent DE list be boiled down to "cram as many lances in as possible" is tedious and just serves to turn the faction into a more mobile Tau.
@OniGanon
@OniGanon 7 ай бұрын
It isn't all darklance spam though. People are starting to take Wyches and Incubi.
@spnked9516
@spnked9516 7 ай бұрын
@@OniGanon Incubi are worth taking now since you can finally pair your archon with them - effectively meaning you're not diminishing both the archon and the kabalite warrior squad he was attached to -, and wyches basically serve as glorified meat shields for your dark lance units - either by screening enemy ranged units or tieing up enemy melee. As things are right now, if you want to run a list themed more heavily towards the wych or haemonculi cults you are punished for doing so. GW just sort of ignored the fact the DE are effectively three mini-factions slammed into one - opting to focus the lion's share of attention and effectiveness on kabalite units.
@joshhondiscord3295
@joshhondiscord3295 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think Lelith gives fights first to the whole unit right? Doesn’t every model in the unit have to have the ability for it to work?
@AzkuulaKtaktu
@AzkuulaKtaktu 7 ай бұрын
Brides of Death While this model is leading a unit, models in that unit have the Fights First ability, and each time a model in that unit makes a melee attack, add 1 to the Strength characteristic of that attack and improve the Armour Penetration characteristic of that attack by 1.
@mininewman92
@mininewman92 7 ай бұрын
Are we sure that Scourge in a Ynnari detachment get the battle host re-rolls?
@dakotamccaig3783
@dakotamccaig3783 7 ай бұрын
They have the Aeldari keyword so they can benefit from the rerolls
@MrRogalick
@MrRogalick 7 ай бұрын
@@dakotamccaig3783but they dont have "unparalleled foresight" ability. So I assume we cant reroll drukhari units
@dakotamccaig3783
@dakotamccaig3783 7 ай бұрын
Unparalleled foresight is the aeldari detachment, not a datasheet ability , a ynnari list would go into such detachment and the only keyword it checks for the rerolls is 'Aeldari', which all drukhari units have. You can't use fate dice however since drukhari do not have the strands of fate ability@@MrRogalick
@Takale0
@Takale0 7 күн бұрын
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@Damnedlegion40k
@Damnedlegion40k 7 ай бұрын
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@sl-lin0bi529
@sl-lin0bi529 7 ай бұрын
I’ve come to realize that the worst army in the game is Dhrukari and Ad Mech
@harrykelly3405
@harrykelly3405 7 ай бұрын
First.
@that1guyfinn418
@that1guyfinn418 7 ай бұрын
I decided to finally get into Drukhari myself by buying 2 combat patrols, Drazhar, and a Talos. Gonna be fun to build and paint
@emilyforsberg2055
@emilyforsberg2055 7 ай бұрын
welcome to the dark kin friend
@jljfuego
@jljfuego 7 ай бұрын
Welcome. If I can make a suggestion, build your first one as a Cronos rather than Talos. It’ll be more immediately impactful. Talos are better run in pairs and especially if you’re flooding the board with 6 of them and a couple Cronos also. Whereas a single Cronos can stretch your pain tokens much further and is very tough for 50 points.
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