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A new report reveals the degrees that are unlikely to get you work.
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[@jasminehewitt793]

When you search up what you want to do and this comes up

[@plucky2115]

next time dont look for useless degree

[@isabellindin3398]

@@plucky2115 or maybe don’t be subjected by capitalism and do something you are passionate about lol

[@plucky2115]

@@isabellindin3398 I agree as long as your passion can afford paying for your lifestyle I dont see why not.

[@megsstorystore8210]

@@isabellindin3398 yo ISABEL it’s Megan LMAO IM WATXHING THE SAME VIDEO WTF

[@megsstorystore8210]

@@isabellindin3398 I literally looked at ur comment and then was like hang on this name looks familiar...

[@MrJayColes]

Those hosts are sitting very close together.

[@FM-dm8xj]

interesting pickup defs something going on their-too caked tho

[@plucky2115]

exactly what I do.😈

[@Louisianish]

Yeah, even for pre-covid standards. haha

[@GeminiPlatypus]

They're just brain-fried numpties; probably feeling the love buzz from all the MDMA and coke they do to get through their shitty jobs reporting nonsense.

[@nusaibahslife]

@@GeminiPlatypus you alright mate?

[@rawyld]

My advice is get work experience while at uni cause it helps a lot as a fellow Uni student. Also you need to know someone in that industry to get into that door.

[@danc.5509]

It's not what you know, but who you know?

[@Yanny-0208]

@@danc.5509honestly true

[@Dani-qo8xo]

This is nothing to do with useless degrees. It's because the retirement ages keep increasing and people aren't leaving the workforce.

[@anasevi9456]

Also Australia Manufacturing, Software, Entertainment and Engineering centred sectors have shrivelled vastly over the last decades in Australia. Medicine, Energy and a few others are the only big hirers left in this country that routinely require more than TAFE tier qualifications.

[@BarbarianKing2964]

I doubt there were that many psychologists and playwrights in the 60s😂

[@hc2159]

Agree that you should go for a university degree that has a curriculum and subjects that you truly are interested in studying. Everyone judged me for getting a science/arts combined degree. I have ended up more successful then most of the people I studied alongside and am working quite successfully in the pharmaceutical industry using and advancing my skills every day and loving it.

[@lilyb6137]

wait what is your role? I'm currently a second year pharmacy student actually, and I stopped liking it to be honest because we started learning about how much doctors get the prescription wrong and how easy it is to accidentally kill patients just by a simple mistake, and honestly it's terrified me to even want to do it anymore...

[@leek1002]

@@lilyb6137 don't be terrified...The fact that there's poor judgement is all the more reason for better students to enter the workforce... Speaking from experience (bad car accident damaging back) I have had to learn myself about opioids, etc. Your right, Doctor's know very little about certain drugs... BUT.. you have to enjoy what you do aswell... Ian...

[@lilyb6137]

@@leek1002 oh yea I remember learning about back pain, there's definitely an overprescribing of opioids and there are non-pharmacological ways to deal with back pain such as mindfulness and controlled behavioural therapy which is shown to make improvements. Opioids are only ever supposed to be short-term as pain is supposed to get better. Long-term is bad because risk of tolerance, dependence and even sensitivity to pain. If you are constantly stimulating the mu receptors which opioids bind to, your body will down regulate the receptors because they are constantly stimulated, meaning less need for so many receptors, now there is less receptors for opioids to bind to, hence less effect. Thank you for the encouragement also, I hope this was more helpful than mansplaining haha

[@lilyb6137]

@@leek1002 Also I am really sorry to hear you what you went through and can only imagine the turmoil of something so debilitating. I had surgery for appendicitis recently and I hated not being able to do anything, and the effect anaesthesia has on your body can take a month or more to wear off, it quite literally makes you feel like a walking zombie, while your mind remains active, it is insanity.

[@leek1002]

@@lilyb6137 yep, you make some excellent points especially regarding the tolerance factor... But, a lot of what you mentioned is true in theory but after you've taking a drug only then cam we understand it properly... Everyone has different injuries and even different opioids work differently on that injury. I could continue but I won't bore ya...lol It sounds like you may have changed-can I ask what you changed to?

[@punchgod]

Why don’t they mention the impact of the casualisation of the workforce?

[@xionglin2009]

a lot of engineering degrees can not find jobs in australia, nothing wrong with the unis, simply not enough jobs/investments in australia, a lot of chemical engineer graduates just simply go to US for work

[@zingawingz2943]

I'm sure this has changed now post-pandemic

[@bitmenn21pergii]

thats because the Aussie companies hired indian and sri lankan egineers, cheap labour and most are useless any way .

[@pranjalb5928]

Then what exactly are we supposed to study. Everyone is not made for engineering or medical science.

[@uncertifiedlinguist8396]

Hope to marry someone who is accustomed to those fields...

[@nicolebilder1571]

no degree is useless it depends how you approach it, and whether you're passionate about it.

[@emeldadzeka2645]

😂😂that's dumb

[@6942-i2i]

Gender studies

[@rond5936]

Your passion is not going to change anything. And Gender Studies is useless.

[@AngelofHogwarts]

Women Studies, Gender Studies...anything with a Studies suffix.

[@megapham1]

Some degrees are actually useless where you’re not going to have a decent paying job…don’t be delusional 😂

[@pooja350]

I'm doing a psych degree and I'm from Malaysia. I know full well what I've put myself through, and I refuse to believe that my hard work is a waste of time. Stem degrees aren't the be all, end all. And a degree will just be a piece of paper unless you supplement it with real life experience. That's how you don't get lost in the rat race

[@accountuser4525]

Psych you mean psychology?

[@pooja350]

@@theobserver7639 How insightful 👏🏼

[@pooja350]

@@accountuser4525 yep

[@agbaya5314]

@@pooja350 see you at McDonald’s!

[@rye2183]

@@agbaya5314 no, but see you ;)

[@hc2159]

Does anyone else find it suss how close the co-hosts are sitting to each other?

[@casiecase12]

Thought it was just me. It's too close even for pre-covid standards

[@computer-training-for-seniors]

When everyone's a Superman, no-one will be.

[@hatblocker]

It means that 27% shouldn’t be at university or never intended on working. Do a trade

[@elisajane9684]

I have never seen these presenters in my life and sunrise is in our tv every morning. Does each state have a different presenting cast or something??

[@MrFaceeatingcancer]

Oh my god no :-0

[@ellieflewin5902]

no they're most likely the weekend presenters or they can substitute for the regular ones on a weekday

[@mattimicusshufflizecki10]

I’ve seen them before, especially the woman 🤔

[@raviprabhakar7792]

You must be sleeping 😴

[@nossidell1781]

Oh my god it’s like that episode of the simpsons where there’s a bizarro version of every character

[@MadhuriPatil-dq7oy]

Bachelor of Pharmacy is useless degree…Uber drivers earning way more than pharmacist, very stressful job

[@samuelzev4076]

A lot of the things they teach in Uni is something you can learn on your own and a lot of the times Universities fail to teach you to use the knowledge you acquired to make money on your own to be financially independent instead they want you to be an employee and be a slave to money

[@Mufasa_Youtube]

Agreed, This is why I feel learning things outside the scope of your uni is essential.

[@samuelzev4076]

@@Mufasa_KZbin most students should just practice their skills instead of listening to lectures, it’s proven that hands on learning is better than theoretical studies

[@prumchhangsreng979]

@@samuelzev4076 hand on learning is just the the process of applying theory into practice. If u dont even have the theory, what are u applying? I learn alot by myself and do alot of side project outside of uni, and of course realize that going to uni alone is nowhere near enough. But i still think it is useful to go to one. It's not enough to make u success, but it will contribute to it. It's doesnt give u a negative effect. (It's negative if the lecture is not helpful to ur goal, but if it is helpful, it is contributing)

[@dac8939]

I did a degree in mathematics and masters in financial mathematics and now work in London on over $300k. What you study makes a big impact, also from a top university with internships. You need work hard to get into a top university and work hard when there.

[@flfreaks3745]

bruh, your field is in financial mathematics. That itself already much more highly demanding and wayy better pay than masters in Human resources or business management

[@computer-training-for-seniors]

73% of graduates finding work is NOT GOOD ENOUGH, given the investment in it. Not everyone who goes to uni is going to be in that 73%.

[@Noknes]

You should have no problem finding a job if you actually get a useful degree. All the art degrees are just utter useless that so many people go into. There are no jobs in that field however so many people study it so that's why i believe the number is 73%.

[@SW-fy8pq]

i know people with uni degree but work in take away or grocery store. i guess that is considered as full time employed, a great success to the ministry of education.

[@el_chico1313]

i am interested in simply being a human being and breathing air.... can't I be paid for that?

[@chrispbacon3042]

It all comes down to supply and demand.

[@thedream1234]

Quite intersting how the hosts are sitting so close to each others. It actually looks great! Also It's good to hear the perspectives and thoughts on Australia's University and labour market.

[@Waywind420]

Uni seems like it's more stressful but also more interesting But the allure of a TAFE diploma is difficult to ignore. TAFE PROS: - You can obtain a Diploma in 1-2 years - It's likely there's a TAFE campus closer to where you live - Right now there are FREE and HALF PRICE courses (including diplomas). You don't have to take on debt ✅ - TAFE degrees have higher employability rates - You are into the workforce 2 years faster than uni students and you also have about 2 years less debt to pay off. A net positive of 4 years ahead of your uni peers. - In an age of rapid technology change (AI) it's possibly better to not waste too much of your time getting a UNI degree that might be in an obsolete field over the next 5-10 years. Sure, bachelor students will look down at you, but if you're a dedicated TAFE student you'll know as much as they do about the subject anyway.

[@anuaridris966]

Plus, as a TAFE student you'll likely have more practical experience to go along with your studies which is invaluable to any employer!

[@iamasmurf1122]

Society following this flawed system is obviously looking to go nowhere

[@jasoncoreas9432]

Michael Wilson, More people should consider entering a trade school and learning a trade. I say this as someone who went to university.

[@seinfan9]

@@jasoncoreas9432 When I suggested to a cousin of mine to consider trade school over a university to avoid massive debt and to cultivate valuable skills he could actually learn, his immediate assumption was that I just didn't want him to make as much money as me, that I wanted to stay on top. This is a guy who had to take remedial classes in high school. Another victim of the brainwashing.

[@VideosOfRandomContext]

@@seinfan9 No it’s just that some people don’t care about money. They care about their passion. They aren’t self-centred, money-grubbing egotistical adults who pursue higher education for the sake of making more money, moreover listen to the fact that apparently trade school teaches ‘valuable skills you could actually learn.’ In all honesty, people like you are usually the ones who are pathetically unhappy with themselves.

[@FlyingExplorer2022]

I have a PhD degree in Electrical Engineering from Australian uni in 2020, 3 years on, I never have yet got my full time role. It led me not to recognise my degrees and even led to my relationship fail down before marriage. Well that's the downside from degrees which is contrary to the ongoing propaganda of "you must study to get a job".

[@zachb2682]

Undergrads are getting hired in EE before they even graduate. Stop blaming your degree mate

[@FlyingExplorer2022]

@@zachb2682 stop blaming me mate. I applied for over 2000 jobs over the years. Never found myself a full time position. Best results was to the last 30 people in a job in 2019. It’s my lifelong dream to find my first full time position ever

[@FlyingExplorer2022]

@@davidbamberr my degree was completely a research degree for PhD and for my masters and bachelors I got over 7/10 GPA

[@milo25266]

If you want to study STEM degrees, stick with civil engineering or computer science. Other STEM degrees normally don’t lead to a job in Australia.

[@kda3113]

what about mechanical engineering

[@egoamigo-1377]

@@kda3113 Don’t listen to the guy above. Engineering degree regardless of its titles (electrical, mechanical, software etc) will always be more employable than those without it. Employers recognises that anyone who undertakes engineering are often problem solvers and hard-workers, skill sets extremely valuable to businesses. Especially with mechanical as the skills you learn could get you into any industry wether it he automation or aerospace.

[@milo25266]

@@egoamigo-1377 Of course, there is always exception. It is true that sometimes engineering graduates are highly sought after by other industries as well. A good example would be prestigious employers in financial services / Investment Banking sectors. However, these jobs are always fiercely competitive and most engineering graduates would never get a chance for interview. I still think civil engineering has the best job security and prospects in Australia as compared to other specializations.

[@brentoneccles]

Pretty simple really, if the jobs aren't available in Australia go overseas for them... which is no doubt what many do!

[@SW-fy8pq]

i guess you never work overseas. your degree cert may not be recognised overseas, and they don't want to hire someone who requires a work permit if possible. so finding a job overseas is a dream to most. wake up bro!

[@brentoneccles]

@@SW-fy8pq I understand this and this is why I work so hard in my degree so that I can get a PhD which is internationally recognised.

[@SW-fy8pq]

@@brentoneccles I would highly recommend you consider China for your PhD, the reasons are 1) much better job prospect. 2) full scholarship including living expenses are available (depends on your result).

[@brentoneccles]

@@SW-fy8pq haha... I would like a PhD to get as far north (Scandinavia or Russia) as I can away from the likely coming conflict.

[@SW-fy8pq]

@@brentoneccles Contrary to many belief, I do not think China and US will start a big war. US will not dare to do so, the cost is too huge. To me, studying degree must be able to secure a job, otherwise what is the point of studying at uni? Places like Russia and Scandinavia may not have as many as opportunity as China.

[@davidloughlin2238]

Anyone who is choosing a degree course needs to check what it might qualify them for in industry. Many colleges get their funding based on the number of students that they recruit, as a result they may be tempted to offer degree courses that are interesting and bring in numbers rather than providing a route to good jobs.

[@chacmool2581]

Science and Maths grads can't find jobs in Oz. I'd say that's more an indictment of the economy than of universities.

[@Mannyb10383]

What do you mean Science and Maths students cant find jobs?

[@juandenz2008]

Don't shoot the messenger. He is just telling students the way it is. He never said the education was deficient, he is just point out the reality of the labour market. In any event a lot of advanced economies don't necessarily have good labour market outcomes for science and maths graduates. People have written whole books on it. See for example "Falling Behind?" by Michaael Teitelbaum.

[@yt_nh9347]

That's because science and maths grads are not learning practical knowledge and in the case of science they mostly learned to memorise a bunch of facts. Top performing science and maths students with internships in research/lab work will have jobs in academia but that is a very small percentage (and decreasing each year as universities lose money from international students). Additionally, the science and math degrees are not difficult enough to weed out candidates so everyone and their uncles can get one (especially science). Compare this to engineering which is much more difficult and practical, has higher failure rates and you will understand why engineers get paid a lot more with higher employment rates

[@dac8939]

Exactly Stem is most employable

[@ayanpandeydpsn-std9005]

​@@dac8939 Science and maths is part of STEM.

[@wealthelife]

Uni grads are young workers (mostly aged 20-30) so are in the age group where work has generally trended from full-time to part-time for that age group, regardless of education level. So the rate of graduates getting FT employment is probably pretty constant from 2008 to 2018 when compared to the overall rate of FT vs PT employment for that age cohort. ie. It's not the graduates FT employment rate is dropping off per se, but that FT employment rate for 20-30 year olds has dropped off between 2008 and 2018 across the board (regardless of education level). BTW you do tertiary education for reasons other than just getting a FT job - I did my first science degree to be able get a job in a field that I found interesting, but I then did a couple of post grad dips and a couple of masters degrees studying part-time 'for fun' (aka 'lifelong learning') while I was working full-time. You don't do tertiary study purely for the $$$. On a purely financial level you could probably do just a well to do a trade qualification and be earning at a younger age than if you do a uni degree and don't enter the work force for several more years, but whether or not that is the best choice depends on whether you are suited to a trade, an office job, self-employment or whatever.

[@leek1002]

Well said Ralph..

[@computer-training-for-seniors]

I'm just not cut out to work for someone else. Starting my own business was the best decision I ever made. You don't need a degree for that.

[@aytj2073]

Looks like a rectangle,

[@jonathan-3008]

how hard is it to make money if you start ur own business

[@andrewmica1914]

What business are you in.

[@danc.5509]

Why the push for STEM courses, if they have no clear pathway and low job prospects?

[@googleuser2609]

The stats would be much worse for anybody without a university degree, so it's all good.

[@dmbctau]

Interesting that Law was not in either best or worst group.

[@pinetworkminer8377]

Law belongs to social sciences

[@tara26777]

What % of that 73% found full time employment in the field they are qualified?

[@BRONZALiVE]

Ive been graduated since 2018 I didn’t go to uni straight away thought I could get a job in film/tv by doing small jobs and building my way up, not thinking a degree was useful at first but after no luck I’m completing a degree in multimedia, journalism and writing, There’s lots of work in this area in broad casting and reporting, a degree is worth it if your passionate, and in the long run it’s worth it

[@johnny_phouc_21]

did u gradgitate yet or u drop out

[@hodarov1564]

​@@johnny_phouc_21Learned English yet?

[@291165426]

Do Australians believe 73% graduates found job require their related degree study?

[@rawyld]

Sometimes as I learn it and sort it out. My advice is while doing your degree is to do work experience while study to get further into the competition of employment. Trust me it helps a lot.

[@Man-fp8vp]

Who knew?

[@hadihammoud3439]

Lol well there goes my 5 years of study ....

[@nickrod32]

begs the question what did you study and did you ever get a job in that field?

[@misosoupbaby]

loved how the expert guy approached the topic with compassion. but why are the other two sitting so close lmao

[@varunemani]

Lol thought they were about to kiss each other akwardly, Yeah guess they took the saying 'Journalists huddled together' way too seriously!

[@whoguy4231]

Get a masters degree and a doctorate to qualify to clean toilets and mop floors.

[@Ray-td5lo]

I did Bachelor of Arts which is social science. I now work at Accenture I’d say social science is alright

[@Ray-td5lo]

Mashaekh Hassan political economy and international relations

[@JJDK485]

That’s because you have good problem-solving, communication and analytical skills that the degree taught you. Can’t deny it.

[@1977-i1h]

Most BA graduates in those type of companies end up as paid online troll of liberal and leftists politicians.

[@Ray-td5lo]

@@1977-i1h I agree, people like Tony Abbot and Rupert Murdoch who did BA all ended up as leftists politicians

[@sauljahboi5965]

Who cares what the outcomes of individuals are? The overall trend is more important

[@helenahayes6150]

10% of law graduates get a job in law, and of those half are due to strong connections - e'g. your father is the partner of a law firm and has a colleague from another law firm who will take you on.

[@pinetworkminer8377]

Only 10%?! Even if you graduate with a JD degree?

[@ricky6608]

No wtf it’s like 85% at my uni lol which means even a lot of the study who perform below average are finding industry jobs all of which will put you in a good position if you stick with it

[@helenahayes6150]

@@pinetworkminer8377 I am in South Australia. Universities have to compete hard for students so they certainly dont advertise that there are no jobs at the end of it. In class, when a student directly asked the lecturer about job prospects, he replied by saying that its a good idea to do a double degree. So the law students I have known, have converted to a double degree in marketing and gotten jobs in marketing when they have gotten out. If you are a law students, do your very best to get the best grades you can as that is what employers of law graduates look for. Also, get whatever experience you can. Your university probably has a legal clinic where law students can get experience. Try to be part of that. Having said that, I live in South Australia that has the worst employment of any Australian states. Opportunities are a bit better in other states. Another thing - unlike medicine or veterinary medicine, it is very cheap for the university to produce law graduates. All they have to do is supply students with a bunch of computers in the library. So they take in way to many students for the job market.

[@SW-fy8pq]

Wanna improve the job market? Please get rid of ALL useless, sub-standard and overly commercialised universities first. Reduce number of uni will reduce a huge number of graduate, and in return better job market. Those who cannot or aren't supposed to get into uni should do vocational training and become self-employed later (and better).

[@jasonhayward6965]

Any University degree must be included the term engineer. What ever that is.the term engineer ensures long term work. Medical engineer, analictical engineer, structural engineer, bio engineer, think anything put engineer after it will get the job.

[@Rainstorm121]

Substantial number of Pacific Island workers with bachelors and masters degrees buried their certificates and now recruited by Aussie farmers to work in the farm and the meat industry. Aussies should have the balls to do that too.

[@J1Bigtime]

I studied one of those useless degrees and am about to start another one!

[@haydenmoore584]

It’s kinda bs right, the “performing well” degrees are just w/e it’s based off your grades whilst studying for your placement, for creative arts etc. it’s based off of you getting out there and networking, Building merit and selling yourself. They’re every different, myself I studied audio engineering and now I live in Miami Florida having a great time, I may not earn 6+ figures but I tell you, I’ve had more life than most. It’s all subject. Do what you want, who cares if it’s not the best thinks to make money! That’s just bs. Ask yourself this. Do you work to live ? Or live to work. What’s your passion. Do what you love. You only need 40k per year to live happy, 75k and your able to live easy. It’s upto you.

[@byzantinehoney3384]

meanwhile electricians and plumbers are making 150,000 a year and work from 6am to 3 go home and have beers all day in the sun lol

[@nedhicks8012]

What electrician is earning that much

[@byzantinehoney3384]

@@nedhicks8012 meant to say 150,000

[@augmented1977]

No electrician or plumber is earning that much unless they work FIFO or run their own sole trade.

[@byzantinehoney3384]

@@augmented1977 Some union Sparkys can can

[@GameChanger-xi4iy]

@@byzantinehoney3384 except they have no super and are usually idiots who waste all their money on drinks and bets.

[@ryanwillis2513]

Gender studies, furniture design, glass making.

[@GeminiPlatypus]

Door knob polishing, paper boat sailing, mixed green salad artist

[@Slam_24]

Well this is annoying

[@oftin_wong]

Courses are offered based on what people want to do ...not what someone else thinks you should do to secure employment Universities are businesses Not daycare, be smarter

[@isaac1998]

Rewatching this post pandemic has made me cringe at how close the hosts were sitting together

[@SW-fy8pq]

The reason to get a degree is to secure a better job. So follow your passion and hope you will get something at the end is a devastating advice. We must put the prospects of finding a real job as a higher priority, better leave your silly and unpractical passion as hobby.

[@jacobwilliam5103]

So everyone supposed to hate their life

[@varunemani]

Honest Facts.. 👍👍 They'd only learn when life hits them, some still remain dum to realise what they missed out on.

[@bilyamarlee]

Good mathematicians do not find a job, they create jobs.

[@Ilovethebush]

encourage entrepreneurial ende ours, like crafts-people. We need more manufacturers of hand made goods. support local artists instead of international mass produced, throw-away items. Encourage the making of functional art pieces that last for generations, like furniture, pottery, clay and porcelain, even bone carvings using cow bones.

[@goodshipkaraboudjan]

The report is by a uni and they're talking to a uni rep - they did market research for their revenue. Not practical industry and business analysis.

[@shyamchabra5355]

I did three degrees at Universities in Adelaide and could not get a permanent job after completion and I was not yet 50. My HECS debt remains unpaid.

[@beanybeansable]

Dont do a degree in left handed puppetry

[@chrispbacon3042]

😆

[@carerforever2118]

🤣

[@matejfele9971]

Yet another media talking heads bs. If I want to study what my passion is, going to a library is the best choice and it's free.

[@nusaibahslife]

I wish I had your work ethic, I need knowledge spoon fed to me with buddies around me doing the same.

[@matejfele9971]

@@nusaibahslife That's ok too, as long as you don't go into unpayable debt for it.

[@Enthusiasmisgood]

I must have missed something. Does education only equal vocational training now? Menzies would be turning in his grave.

[@moanaa9783]

don't study environmental engineering.. no one will hire you. I got no job for 2yrs 2 months.

[@zxcvbnm3998]

As a one legged, pan sexual, albino midget, I have to say that I am offended by this. I demand gender studies program be free!

[@prizarko9156]

Lmao

[@chrisg3493]

What about Bachelor of policing ?

[@loredragon7473]

useless

[@chrisg3493]

@@loredragon7473 no its not, how is it useless if its the requirement to be a police officer?

[@Brandonhayhew]

Same or also in any art degree is useless

[@agbaya5314]

You don’t need a degree to be a police officer. Don’t get scammed

[@juandenz2008]

@@chrisg3493 There aren't many jurisdictions that require a degree in policing to be a police officer. I can't think of any (but they may exist). It certainly isn't the case in Australia.

[@cristie_x]

I hope my bachelor of accounting wont be a waste of time. How many jobs insist on certifided workers?

[@MaruskaStarshaya]

Are all those 73% who get full time job get it in a field of study? I mean they could get a full time job at McDonalds :DD

[@4R53Hole]

The *STRESS* may be a good reason for a lot of people to not continue formal education, keep reading and learning though :)

[@sarthaksingh6183]

what about Business (Management and IT) degree?

[@computer-training-for-seniors]

It is definitely NOT smart to get into $100,000 of debt for a Masters degree and then find that you cannot get a job anywhere, because everyone else has a degree. All students like to think that paying off this debt will be a breeze. You really have no idea what the real world is like.

[@Iggywiggywoo]

Has Covid got anything to do with the numbers decreasing?

[@AbdulRahman-cl5kq]

Social science in human services is as same as social science degree or it is like any social work degree??

[@1977-i1h]

Gender Studies, Geography, Fine Arts on top.

[@200Das]

Gender studies and fine arts ok But how is geography a useless major???

[@1977-i1h]

@@200Das They also always end up as useless communists.

[@1977-i1h]

Add History and Communication degrees.

[@1977-i1h]

@@Hndjdj400 Almost everything in HUMSS except Criminology and Psychology with state licensure exams.

[@1977-i1h]

@@TheInfectedCherry Criminology is a full-professional degree with state licensure exam. It's also a major pre-Law degree. Military and police personnel are preferred to be criminologists. Lol WTF is history? You don't need to study it in college. You can just Google it. Anyone can talk or discuss history but not anyone can discuss Criminal Justice. History degree will just lead you to a useless communist protester career. Hahahaha

[@extremegamers1999]

I mean with how political some courses are these days you really are better off not going to university

[@mynamemylastname1835]

2020 it's coming! Reality matters!!!

[@aena5995]

wht should a school leaver teen supposed to doooo wtf

[@tristiandejong1897]

Is a postgraduate certificate of IT able to get you a job?

[@shaymus737]

Why are they sitting so close together hahahaha

[@jjsc4396]

The appalling, blubbering, Australian 3-year undergraduate scroll factories? Old news.

[@blowurn0se]

Those aren’t useless degrees.

[@afroawesome]

Meanwhile most of the world record 98% youth unemployment rate after graduation 🤦🏻‍♂️.

[@tavuzzipust7887]

Too many useless degrees about whatever-studies.

[@loganhayne6422]

Last hired first fired is a term from the Great Depression in reference to black people (fun fact)

[@loganhayne6422]

@Saroj M during the Great Depression in the US, industrial companies were having to lay off staff due to insufficient funds, and of course black people were seen as inferior back in 1920s meaning they were the “first fired” in most cases ( usually if the boss was white). This went the other way, when jobs were created white people were always prioritised over black people due to racism and as stated before inferiority. So hence the term created “ last hired first fired”.

[@kathaiti]

I am surprise law is not on the list.

[@computer-training-for-seniors]

I highly recommend you read the book "Curse of the High IQ" by Aaron Clarey.

[@towel1636]

Why

[@runranrun7979]

Aaron Clarey is what young men need to learn during their highschool years.

[@chrispbacon3042]

@@terkukurpikat they screw the guys that make the money 💰.

[@psychedelictacos9118]

What about Computer Science degree?

[@frazebean5117]

Its a good degree because it's pretty much classified as an engineering degree

[@CryptoSeann]

I got in to a course that i dont know im going to use. Any thoughts, i love trading crypto.

[@kcc879]

Teaching is not a worthy degree, no incentive to teach! Don’t teach.

[@johnthumble5154]

Not a worthy degree! Are you serious. It may not pay enough and have horrible conditions but it's still an extremely valuable degree

[@kcc879]

@@johnthumble5154 completely disagree and I am a teacher.

[@johnthumble5154]

@@kcc879 that's an argument from authority fallacy but I guess it depends on what youan by worthy? Worth as in the financial rewards from the degree are not worth it? I'd agree with that but if you're saying a teaching degree is as worthless asa degree in dance then you're dead wrong. The workf will function just fine without people with dance degrees but we'rd be in a pretty horrible place without people to educate our children.

[@alaska1790]

I live in WA and work for the Dept of Education. Teachers get lots of benefits, may not be paywise but in other ways. An example of this is the Department of Education in WA pays for the teacher to be requalified in another area. They get their uni degree qualification paid for by the tax payer.

[@kcc879]

@@alaska1790 It's not always the DoE's or private schools hiring but rather the accreditation bodies that operate within each state. QLD accepts my quals, NSW doesn't and actually told me to go and get another BA degree.

[@imdanielvalentino]

Is a Bachelor of Arts major in Sociology minor in Politics useless?

[@jimmyb4982]

Yep.

[@26declanjones]

"Increasingly harder"? Someone never learnt basic grammar...

[@elli1080]

umm this is kinda awkward but the grammar is correct."someone never learnt basic grammar"

[@26declanjones]

@@elli1080 hahaha Wow super awkward because unfortunately you are incorrect. The use of the word "harder" in this context already implies an increase on the word "hard". Therefore within the context of the statement "increasingly harder", the harder creates a tautology. The correct grammatical phrase would have been either simply "harder" or "increasingly hard". Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...

[@bigman-em7cc]

@@26declanjones Cry.

[@VideosOfRandomContext]

@@26declanjones So true

[@uk2422]

@@26declanjones no it’s correct because lets take 3 years as an example and say it got 40% harder in year 2 than year 1. Now if the next gap or Y3 had the same 40% hardness growth than Y2, then that would be “increasing hard” because both years are increasing in a harder and SAME pace. BUT if its 40% harder in Y2 than Y1 and 60% harder in Y3 than Y2 then the level of hardness is increasing harder than how hard it was already increasing before each year hence “increasingly harder” is correct lol. Simply put, it Means its just getting harder by the year

[@superwag634]

That blond host fumbles all her words and she’s still making a living on tv. There is hope for everyone 🤣

[@Mannyb10383]

Is a Bachelor in commerce a degree that is sought after. Is it easy to find a job with this degree?

[@maxwilson5927]

yes if you get involved in uni clubs + get good grades + get an internship

[@kylepasta]

No you're better off in social work

[@MrJayColes]

Don’t ask a KZbin comment section for career advice.

[@milo25266]

Unfortunately no

[@jotarokujo9242]

It looks like it from the outside, but unfortunately no, it's definitely not easy

[@noname-yw6ht]

I'm getting a degree just to be proud not job.

[@bethanysingsmrs849]

also im doing an animation degree and plan to get into online animation job

[@Ray-td5lo]

Yikes shouldn’t have chosen arts then

[@watto7756]

-_-爱 complete waste of money

[@agbaya5314]

Huge waste

[@jemma4697]

@@agbaya5314 why is it a waste

[@agbaya5314]

jemma art degrees have the worst job prospects. Most art degree holders now work for Uber eats

[@jemma4697]

@@agbaya5314 I have to pick my courses by 6 days and I was gonna choose media communication even tho idk what im going to do in the future but I am interested in that, I might not stick with it tho

[@juandenz2008]

to maximise your chances it's better to follow a degree with a clear vocational pathway. That degree in surfing is probably not going to cut it. Even if you want to be a pro surfer you are better to skip classes and surf. As the report showed even science and maths degrees are not necessarily a good investment despite the frequent claims of skills shortages in this area.

[@bethanysingsmrs849]

good thing i just wanna learn for the sake of learning :)

[@jaydenm656]

Is a bachelor of psychology (honours) at western sydney uni going to get me anywhere?

[@kylieballard2123]

No bachelor is a glorified diploma, the only thing a bachelor of psych gets you is the first stepping stone in a sequence, you are not a psychologist until you finish the masters and then supervision then and only then can you be a practising psychologist

[@freedomofspeech1800]

What about Juris Doctor?

[@maxwilson5927]

I've moved from JD to finance - no jobs in law currently

[@dudayev608]

@@maxwilson5927 and Finance does ? JD is a prestigious degree. what are you doing ? Law medicine and science degrees does pay well if you stick to it. Except civil engineering because the market is flooded with them.

[@clara-xm4jo]

dudaib Ahmed aus is absolutely flooded w law students. i’m not surprised

[@dudayev608]

@@clara-xm4jo *law students or practicing lawyers ? Almost everyone needs a legal advisor/lawyer. Law and medicine is a different ball game. Science and law can get you tenure at reputable institutions. It ain’t like some degree as “French studies” which I can get it done in a public library. I’m a student of Finance (it has good job opportunities) and I’m not discouraging anyone to pursue anything. if you have interest and motive to drive through it. Go for it. But why will I pursue an arts that will cost me the same as someone doing medi school or law or even finance. This whole “do what you love” philosophy works when you can pay your bills properly without chucking a container of antidepressants.

[@seinfan9]

Law is not a lucrative career path unless you go to a university like Harvard or Yale for the networking, or you become a scummy ambulance chaser, but even they tend to struggle on average.

[@jordanmaclean6410]

Is it true that Only 32% of people with a degree landed a job last year? Ah, nope 73% did within 4 months. 😂 That’s the difference between ‘ol’mate sunrise presenter with his hair all slicked back, showing his ignorance, why study something your interested in unless there’s a monetary value to it. 😓 Bless him, we need diversity in our world/ Australia. A fake blonde & typical white capitalist male on on Australian Tv, Representing, well nothing but looks and Zero intellect. Sorry the woman presenter, she seemed switched on, but typical of what CH 9 deem TV worthy.

[@computer-training-for-seniors]

University major sucks.

[@IIIIALBYIIII]

Algorithms will determine if you got a job or not

[@AnhTuPhucDerrickHoangCanada]

-"uselessness" is real!- Hmmmm....path of least resistance.