Does Australia need a Monarchy? King Charles commences first Royal Tour

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King Charles III and Queen Camilla will be in Australia this week - their first visit here since taking the throne. Given the king's ongoing cancer treatment, and recent drastic changes to the British Royal Family, the trip won't be as busy as previous royal tours.
So, this will be a slimmed-down tour - but is Australia's fever for the Monarchy still as passionate? Three experts from The Australian discuss whether King Charles has a bright future - or whether we'll be heading toward another shot at the Republic.
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@chatterboxjan8 3 ай бұрын

Better to have a consistent head of state however imperfect rather than an elected one because you never know what you are voting for, just look at the politicians in power right now 😮

@Fordnan 3 ай бұрын

And is a directly-elected HoS the only alternative? Of course not. Australia can do better, and it must.

@zacdambracio6411 Ай бұрын

Why should foreigner who don't know what it is to be Australian have power in our country and of our system. We should believe in a fair go. A fair go to lead the country.

@dianakent8393 3 ай бұрын

No thank you NO REPUBLIC we already voted NO. ..We are not shackled .

@Fordnan 3 ай бұрын

So 25 years ago, and you're not shackled, but you are bound by that decision. Okay...

@margaretcaine4219 3 ай бұрын

As long as Australia keeps even symbolic ties to the UK we are not a mature nation. The 'If it ain't broke don't fix it' argument is specious. A more valid argument is 'If it serves no real purpose, why keep it?' It is hard to argue that a head of state on the other side of the world is relevant or serves a purpose. All that is necessary is for the Governor General to be renamed the President. It is so simple, but John Howard put people off by wording the referendum with his 'Chosen by parliament ' question. The referendum was 27 years ago and in that time a lot of people have died while a lot have reached voting age. Many were not even born, and many have migrated here and become citizens who are entitled to a say. The referendum result should not stand forever.

@Whoretensia 3 ай бұрын

Republicanism is a solution in search of a problem. Australian democracy is not impaired by having a hereditary monarch. All strong democracies have undemocratic guardrails. Let’s focus on real problems that matter.

@lukeprimon1864 3 ай бұрын

republicanism is a cancer. Monarchy is a natural form of government. There are many democratic countries that have monarchies, ie UK, Spain, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Thailand, Malaysia, etc

@Fordnan 3 ай бұрын

What will you do when Britain becomes a republic? With the sad demise of every boomer in Britain, support for the monarchy grows less; its days are numbered. Will you retain a foreign monarch? Which one?

@Whoretensia 3 ай бұрын

@@Fordnan What will we do when the last donkey dies? What will we do when the Moon crashes into us? What will we do when the avocados run out? With every dying millennial we inch ever closer to these eventualities. Will anything matter then?

@Fordnan 3 ай бұрын

@@Whoretensia Hilarious! But nothing to do with my question. The monarchy is on the way out in Britain. The Saxe-Coburg-Gothas will no doubt want to remain in Sandringham or Balmoral if they can, California, the land of the celeb if they have to depend on low-brow media to get by. So what's the point t in waiting for the inevitable end? Make Murdoch your king if you want. Maybe you could even vote on who you want to be king every five years or so...

@lukeprimon1864 3 ай бұрын

@@Fordnan A lot of younger people support the monarchy. I dont consider Britain a foreign country. We could choose an Australian monarch who lives here. Princess Anne or Prince Edward would be capable monarchs

@rayakusu-fosterB 3 ай бұрын

"HIS MAJESTY 🇬🇧 KCIII. OH MY HOME AUS🇦🇺! TWICE A ROYAL KING🤴 ONCE A ROYAL PRINCE 🤴." 💜🇬🇧💜

@alvanrigby6361 3 ай бұрын

He thinks this is a great tragedy for our nation. I think the housing shortage, unsustainable population growth and homelessness is a great tragedy for Australia. The Australian needs to get its priorities right.

@JanGannon-ui5pe 3 ай бұрын

How incredibly crass, petulant and bogan is the pathetic discourtesy of the state premiers. And you want us to vote for you? Dig deep & find some manners. The King is not forcing you to stay with the monarchy, he has stated outright that if you want to become a republic, you are free to do so. Grow up. It is not Britain, The Monarchy or KC3's problem, it's Australia's. Until you get up and do something, shut up & be polite.

@IsabelleMercier-r6w 13 күн бұрын

Huge support MAJESTY KING CHARLES III ❤️ London ❤️ l Miss you so much, lot of kisses, sublime documentary, tribute Queen Elizabeth ll, God Bless Royale Family AMEN 🙏👑🇬🇧❤️

@jammypencils8295 3 ай бұрын

What else is there to do? It's a bit of fun. We're not America so we don't make the news that much and no one goes to our major cities and buys "I ❤ Canberra" T-shirts like they do in New York. People think of Australia and think 'spiders, snakes, and crocodiles.' King Charles is not responsible for anything his predecessors did and thinking of people as symbols only breeds martyrs and hatred. Getting rid of the monarchy just takes away one more interesting thing about this place.

@JanGannon-ui5pe 3 ай бұрын

People think Australians are bogans with this sort of behaviour.

@jammypencils8295 3 ай бұрын

@@JanGannon-ui5pe maybe I am a bogan. But, like most countries, we're just a piece of land with people standing on it. When I go to other countries and people hear my accent, I hear prisoner jokes, 'dingo ate my baby' jokes, and people badly imitating me. We're never gonna be taken as seriously as you might want. No country ever will be. It helps, however, to have some interesting things about a place. For example: when I have family come over from other countries I like to take them on tours around the place (for their kids, mostly.) Even the kids from countries with their own monarchies only care and ask about the monarchy. 'why's their a golden staff in the middle of the parliament?', 'has the king ever been here?', 'what's the king like?' , 'how many princesses are there in the royal family?' I don't glorify them in anyway. As I happily told my niece, 'yes, the king farts.' I have talked with the teenagers among them about the Mau Mau uprising, slave trade, and british civil war, as well as how Australia came to be, but they understand that king Charles is not to blame. So I say again, 'it's only a bit of fun.'

@Fordnan 3 ай бұрын

The monarchy isn't an interesting thing about Australia, though. Your nature and climate are the incredible things, cultural aspects, too, like the venues for your soap operas. I'm sorry you feel derided. I happen to be aware of and grateful for all that Australia has done to help Britain and its other allies in the past 110 years at least.

@jammypencils8295 3 ай бұрын

@@Fordnan our venues are overrated. The Sydney opera house blocked the only good Australian comedian from performing because his jokes are "offensive." I love Australia but the climate is dogshit, opera in Australia is thought of as a passtime for the rich, and a large portion of our animals are cunts. I've had my home infested twice, by two different insects. I've had advice to kill certain spiders on site. I wouldnt be so happy to get rid of the monarchy if I were British either. what else is there for American tiktok girls to gawk at? The food?

@stephaniefox7922 3 ай бұрын

POLITICIANS COME AND GO! THE MONARCHY ARE STABLE!!

@annawajdy 3 ай бұрын

Exactly, we don’t to follow others … So much better to stay with Our king , trust me look around the world , there’s no country did well after ditches their Monarchy , there’s so many examples.

@stephaniefox7922 3 ай бұрын

@gopnik-i NOT ALL of Ireland!! and let’s see how those countries go, now China is buying up there!!

@anirbanroy7574 3 ай бұрын

They get no importance in the world. 😂😂😂😂

@stephaniefox7922 3 ай бұрын

@gopnik-i Not all of Ireland. Princess Catherine is chief or something, of the Irish Guards!!!

@kelli81nannyof2 3 ай бұрын

its up to the Australians to decide as a brit let them choose its not hard

@rumpoh8039 3 ай бұрын

KER-CHING CHARLES AND CROW-MILLIE.

@derrickjackson1724 3 ай бұрын

DO ANYWHERE NEEDS A MONARCH?? WHAT ARE THEY TRULY DOING, A WAVE OR TWO, AND SPEND LOTS OF MONEY 💰💰💰💰

@user-fx5vb3oi3k 3 ай бұрын

the french took care of their royalty problem

@anirbanroy7574 3 ай бұрын

That's why It got occupied by the Nazis. Look at the Spanish. Made a continent of Their language. But, the French failed.

@BrendaVanderwey 3 ай бұрын

So many countries have already dumped them.

@vladnurk4710 3 ай бұрын

where is Malcolm Turnbull he promised to reintroduce Republic amendment to the Constitution after the death of Elisabeth II

@PAIKUN. 3 ай бұрын

I support merit based constitutional monarchy not hereditary

@reginavittoria 3 ай бұрын

No republic, defend the monarchy

@frankleespeaking9519 3 ай бұрын

It’s 2024- No human being should be referred to as his highness

@araucaria5173 3 ай бұрын

Put up a decent model for an Australian Republic and that might inspire the people of Australia to vote for it .

@Fordnan 3 ай бұрын

No, a fair vote would be a straightforward decision on whether to continue under the monarchy or to become a republic. Unlike monarchists, we republicans do not impose our will on others. What model of republic to follow should be down to the Australian people after the decision has been taken to become a republic.

@alvanrigby6361 3 ай бұрын

@@Fordnan No way! Let us see what we are getting first.

@Fordnan 3 ай бұрын

@@alvanrigby6361 What you are getting first is no monarchy. Fantastic. Otherwise, you are excluded from a decision on how the new constitution should look.

@alvanrigby6361 3 ай бұрын

@@Fordnan No I am not. What are Constitutional conventions and the representatives for ?

@Fordnan 3 ай бұрын

@@alvanrigby6361 If you vote against constitutional change, but by a slim majority the rest of the population vote for it, will you be happy for the winners alone to decide upon the outcome?

@avayer849 3 ай бұрын

Why a republic? A resident monarch would likely please a larger majority of Australians than the current off shore version or a republic as I suspect a lot of republican just want a resident head of state.

@DavidLockett-x4b 3 ай бұрын

If Australia becomes a republic like America, I am going to move to the South Pole.

@monalight8508 3 ай бұрын

NO.....Republic Australia....🌟

@terrieferguson6932 3 ай бұрын

Yes, if its not broken dont change it

@margaretcaine4219 3 ай бұрын

If it serves no purpose, why keep it?

@Mohamedmerwany3rd 3 ай бұрын

God save the King and the Monarchy ❤

@Mohamedmerwany3rd 3 ай бұрын

@gopnik-i I'm sorry I can't Understand

@juneallan4903 3 ай бұрын

MEDIA STOP CALLING HER QUEEN.SHE IS NOT CORRECTLY A QUEEN

@BeeP-9867 3 ай бұрын

With the way the Royalty has been going, NO!!! And most certainly NOT CHARLES AND CAMILLA!!! IT IS UNTHINKABLE THAT ANYONE WOULD LIKE OR RESPECT anyone selfish, self-indulgent, destructive. REPUBLIC MAY BE A GREAT OPTION!!!

@JanGannon-ui5pe 3 ай бұрын

Please, could you explain why you believe they are selfish, self-indulgent & destructive. I am happy for you to cast accusations, but some proof would be nice.

@paulcarter4945 3 ай бұрын

think you follow the woke press - rather ill-informed on what their role is

@JenMaram63 3 ай бұрын

Please explain how Australia still having the Monarch as its' head of state affects you. Who would you propose to be our president? The Monarch has no Political affiliation with any Political Party in this country, and he is the Leader of the Commonwealth of Nations. Do you also feel the Commonwealth is a waste of time as well?? So much of what you have listed as being wrong with Camilla and Charles can also be said about Australian Politicians that the public have elected into office.

@MoanDiding 3 ай бұрын

Long Live the Republic! Abolish the monarchy!

@brigittekenny6599 3 ай бұрын

Yes we won’t monarchy we don’t want a pres just look at American.

@Fordnan 3 ай бұрын

Yes, of course, because every republic is identical to the US ...

@Lagerfanny-g7e 3 ай бұрын

@@Fordnan What model of republic do you propose Australia adopt?

@Fordnan 3 ай бұрын

@@Lagerfanny-g7e I don't propose anything. Why should I? There are numerous options available for Australians to discuss and vote on. I'm not some oracle.

@Lagerfanny-g7e 3 ай бұрын

@@Fordnan So you are saying the Australian people should throw out a system that works, and then decide on a replacement... very clever.

@Fordnan 3 ай бұрын

@@Lagerfanny-g7e "It works" - Works for who, in your tiny mind? The British monarchy undermines the British parliament. It acts as the ultimate brake on democratic progress, working marvellously well for our establishment. For the rest of us, it makes life worse.

@user-fx5vb3oi3k 3 ай бұрын

i am not aussie but have advice..THE FRENCH TOOK CARE OF THEIR " ROYALITY" PROBLEM.

@prodos8914 Ай бұрын

And they have had political crises ever since

@christianamary1540 3 ай бұрын

Return crown for indigenous people

@dozer4065 3 ай бұрын

The role of the Head of State (currently The King) is set out in the Australian Constitution. To infer that Australians could not devise and approve a similar arrangement with a neutral Head of State of an Australian Republic is to insult their intelligence. As a republican, I welcome the King as current Head of State but the time will come when Australians will be politically (and emotionally) ready for the change.

@JanGannon-ui5pe 3 ай бұрын

I agree. However, some manners until then might ease the path forward for all. Petulant belligerence is never attractive by leaders anywhere, even if they are just state pollies.

@reez1728 3 ай бұрын

No. You’re a traitor to the crown.

@Lagerfanny-g7e 3 ай бұрын

How are you going to pick a ‘neutral’ head of state?

@Lagerfanny-g7e 3 ай бұрын

Trouble is caused by unthinking people who carelessly throw away ageless ideals as if they were old and outworn machinery. They would have religion thrown aside, morality in personal and public life made meaningless, honesty counted as foolishness, and self-interest set up instead of self-restraint. HM Queen Elizabeth II, 1957

@Fordnan 3 ай бұрын

Well, she *would* say that, wouldn't she?

@christianamary1540 3 ай бұрын

Monarch of Britain no must of Australia

@NanaOneAZ 3 ай бұрын

What do Australians get for having a monarchy? Seriously!

@Lagerfanny-g7e 3 ай бұрын

A stable form of government?

@NanaOneAZ 3 ай бұрын

Hm.

@BrendaVanderwey 3 ай бұрын

Nothing

@margaretcaine4219 3 ай бұрын

@@Lagerfanny-g7eAre you seriously suggesting that if the British royal family disappeared tomorrow we would suddenly become unstable?

@Lagerfanny-g7e 2 ай бұрын

@@margaretcaine4219Yes.

@christianamary1540 3 ай бұрын

Abolish the monarchy

@kcharles8857 3 ай бұрын

We voted no. Let it go.

@Patricia7561 3 ай бұрын

If I am not mistaken you had a DEMOCRATIC vote if you wanted to have the roya family still in your lives or not, haven't you? What was the DEMOCRATIC result? YOU, yes YOU nobody else, wanted them, so you DEMOCRATICALLY behave rispectfully of YOUR DEMOCRATIC CHOICE. Your politician not wanting to meet them, a person with cancer that cross half globe to come and visit you, are plain rude and disrespectful of the Australian people that vote to keep the monarchy as head of state, that are the majority since they won, woke politicians branding themself to the eyes of the world as antidemocratic zero basic decency boors. Shame on them!!

@sirgregoir 3 ай бұрын

Simce the Queens passing, they are redundant to us..!

@BeeP-9867 3 ай бұрын

WHY ARE THEY REALLY HERE??? WHY IS CAMILLA EVEN HERE???

@avayer849 3 ай бұрын

Can't be a hundred percent sure, but could it have something to do with the fact he's King of Australia and Camilla is his wife?

@margaretcaine4219 3 ай бұрын

@@avayer849Nah, he just wanted a stopover on his way to Samoa or wherever. He arrived at night, spent the next day resting, attended a lunch for literally 10 minutes, went to church, and that's about it.

@christianamary1540 3 ай бұрын

Give governor general become duke of Australia remain monarchy

@BeeBee-vz3ml 3 ай бұрын

How I wish our country was still under British rule, the monarchy is stable and something to look up to, no corruption,. Just a pity the chaos the Duke and Dutchess of disaster, Meghan and Harry created.