Autel MaxiCOM MK808 Professional OBDII Diagnostic Scan Tool Review

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a DIY Car Guy

a DIY Car Guy

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3 жыл бұрын
Nobody ever shows then bidirectional features on these machines. That’s the main reason a tech wants this
@alphavirus13.Nellyjahh
@alphavirus13.Nellyjahh 2 жыл бұрын
Is this model bidirectional? Please answer
@mustafaahl
@mustafaahl 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone who tempt to buy this tool please note that they charge a fraction of the tool price to sell update for one year. I have this tool for 4 years and it does not do all what they advertise but it is a medium grade scan tool. It does not talk with every make and model even for some popular cars. I In Australia they have terrible customer service. Never answer the call so if you want to claim the warranty where would you go? Does not code keys. Good luck.
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 5 жыл бұрын
all decent scan tools have updates, which cost money. you don't have to buy the update to use the tool, only to scan newer cars
@anuragpandey7552
@anuragpandey7552 5 жыл бұрын
Launch provide 2 years free upgrade.
@isaacappiah8739
@isaacappiah8739 2 жыл бұрын
Again Incase of apgrade will charges be required. Thanks so much for your time and consideration.
@davidebare3401
@davidebare3401 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of good information! Thanks. I bought the mk808ts because of the extra tpms functions.
@chongokabeleka994
@chongokabeleka994 2 жыл бұрын
We're can I get this machine
@pontiusgay6999
@pontiusgay6999 4 жыл бұрын
im going to consider getting one due to your reviee. good review man
@SS-U23
@SS-U23 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't know if it has a bidirectional feature or not! Thank you
@bigbobno11
@bigbobno11 3 жыл бұрын
Only Special Functions I OWN THIS LOVE IT BUT WANTED FULL BIDIRECTIONAL CONTROLE SO I GOT THE MS906BT looking to sell the 808 I did program a few keys SLICK it really is an awesome tool
@fimpen698
@fimpen698 4 жыл бұрын
Hello. I will take a chance to ask you about BMS knowing this video is from 2018. Does it matters when you run the BMS after changing the battery or must i be done right after the change? Sorry for any miss spelings, im from Sweden. Ty for a great video👍🏻
@sebastiaanwesterveld2731
@sebastiaanwesterveld2731 Жыл бұрын
Does you connnect to a desktop computer by using the supplied cables ?
@andycampos2542
@andycampos2542 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you and can the scanner program Anti-Theft back on vehicles
@Mr4thetruth
@Mr4thetruth 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this awesome video. You really sold the Autel to me!
@craigthomas1669
@craigthomas1669 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. Great overview to the computer! Much appreciated!
@tomformicola8096
@tomformicola8096 3 жыл бұрын
You did a great job walking us through this unit
@elcarita1444
@elcarita1444 4 жыл бұрын
can do ABS bleeding on a Chevrolet Astro 98 AWD??
@autodiagnosticogonzalez6192
@autodiagnosticogonzalez6192 5 жыл бұрын
Hi friend, can you help me please? See, i get a maxicom mk808 like that, so, i already registered, but, the icons are apear in black or dark gray.. how can i to change them, to colors??? Thanks
@automotiverepairtoolsdistr1122
@automotiverepairtoolsdistr1122 5 жыл бұрын
New updated version changed color icons to dark gray, if you wanna change, you can try to do a factory reset.
@markhatfield477
@markhatfield477 5 жыл бұрын
Price wise is obvious and what's the difference between the MK808 and the Zurich Pro????
@marvinnaputi7867
@marvinnaputi7867 3 жыл бұрын
I just pick one up 906,8ts am learning how to fix cars the right way.
@filipe4095
@filipe4095 6 жыл бұрын
hi , can I program/code BMW E60 injectors with it?
@yolovang2828
@yolovang2828 6 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to get mines!
@katjerouac
@katjerouac 6 жыл бұрын
mine*
@yolovang2828
@yolovang2828 6 жыл бұрын
Go to hell
@dannyyo7948
@dannyyo7948 5 жыл бұрын
@@yolovang2828 lol. So how u like the scanner?
@JohnKaufmann
@JohnKaufmann 4 жыл бұрын
@@katjerouac thank you
@kingbolen_official
@kingbolen_official 5 жыл бұрын
Have a VS video about Autel MK808 scanner and Launch X431 Diagun IV ?
@وماتوفيقيالابالله-س1د
@وماتوفيقيالابالله-س1د Жыл бұрын
Nice overview, can this tool be use for ECU coding ?
@treunotre2237
@treunotre2237 3 жыл бұрын
I just ordered mine.
@oneummah6795
@oneummah6795 4 жыл бұрын
Great review, thank you!
@donlovelace2127
@donlovelace2127 2 жыл бұрын
Will this work good for 2006 corvette
@amoalu1432
@amoalu1432 6 жыл бұрын
Hello , i want to buy one of those two (mk808 or md808) The probleme about mk808 is 1 year update software VS md808 is life update Can give me more information if you can thank you
@tulio3571
@tulio3571 5 жыл бұрын
Hi there , using this scanner can i find out if the check engine light has been turned off ,when ,and what codes it had ? thank you .
@wilsongarciaromero
@wilsongarciaromero 5 жыл бұрын
Does this scanner read codes with the engine running? The problem is if I turn the vehicle off, it stores the code and then it is not active.
@BLOGBOSSJA
@BLOGBOSSJA 5 жыл бұрын
I just purchase 1😊
@nood_019
@nood_019 3 жыл бұрын
i have one like this! but have to learn more about how to use it!!
@tannerdamico9895
@tannerdamico9895 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question I have the MK808 Maxicom Scanner and I tried hooking it to my Trucks On board computer and couldn't get the prongs to fit into my adapter under my dash am I doing something wrong or what I got a 2001 Ford Ranger
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 3 жыл бұрын
did you flipping the plug around? does the obdii port on your rnager look different than normal?
@tannerdamico9895
@tannerdamico9895 3 жыл бұрын
@@aDIYCarGuyYea course this is my 1st time using it but powered it up to set everything up on it
@angelsfightingforus942
@angelsfightingforus942 5 жыл бұрын
Does this tool read transmission codes on ford chevy mitsubishi toyota bmw & mercedes?
@ammarhusin4389
@ammarhusin4389 4 жыл бұрын
May I know it is small unit nice for me to have it
@mechanicandskills7215
@mechanicandskills7215 5 жыл бұрын
could you elaborate a bit more on heath report versus system scan it seems redundant at the moment can you give me a scenario where you would yous each instead of the other seems to me heath report does everything !! thanks cheers
@SonofGodly
@SonofGodly 6 жыл бұрын
real good review
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 6 жыл бұрын
thanks
@farzadsole6021
@farzadsole6021 6 жыл бұрын
Hi I'm interested to buy one of these as I'm a car enthusiast, so one of these is a MUST TO HAVE, however, I'm a bit confused which one of the MK808 and MX808 to buy and what are the differences if there is any? Thanks
@chavarrias151
@chavarrias151 5 жыл бұрын
the main difference is the MX is the American model while the MK is the European model. --
@bluetrainer3549
@bluetrainer3549 3 жыл бұрын
Can you program keyfobscwith this one? I saw the immobilizer option there so o was wondering if it can program keysfobs like the maxidas ds808
@victormatundo5726
@victormatundo5726 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any option to scan car USB fault??
@victorv4340
@victorv4340 6 жыл бұрын
thank you diy car guy. I seen on another video someone said this is the foreign model and the mx808 was the American one
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 6 жыл бұрын
you're welcome Victor!
@garyrobinson5719
@garyrobinson5719 5 жыл бұрын
So what one is the American model ??? The mx 808 ?? Could you please enlighten me
@martinacarey5563
@martinacarey5563 3 жыл бұрын
How do u turn up the volume for the videos in tutorial
@wilsongarciaromero
@wilsongarciaromero 5 жыл бұрын
How much cost the software upgrade?
@kingbolen_official
@kingbolen_official 5 жыл бұрын
Autel 1 year free update Launch 2 years free update
@philip.aocallaghan4602
@philip.aocallaghan4602 3 жыл бұрын
On that, the latest Audi is 2002... That is 19 years ago.. surly it covers up to 2019 ???
@MrWita
@MrWita 3 жыл бұрын
Hi , thanks for the review. Is it possible to activate Actuators like Fan or AC-clutch?
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 3 жыл бұрын
not individually, but it does system tests which activates a bunch of things in sequence including the fans, probably the ac clutch too, depending on which system you're testing
@martinalbert5653
@martinalbert5653 5 жыл бұрын
I did not see Mazda listed. Is Mazda unsupported?
@erniequibod9363
@erniequibod9363 3 жыл бұрын
Sir good day how much is that scan tools
@frankthomas2231
@frankthomas2231 6 жыл бұрын
I just got one of these. So far I like it, but im still learning all the features and functions of it. one thing i have been trying to do is connect to a wifi printer, but havent figured out how to download the app for it.
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 6 жыл бұрын
When you're on the tablet home screen, i.e. the diagnostic stuff is closed, open the web browser, search Google Play Apps (play.google.com/store/apps?hl=en), then search wireless printer app, find the one you want/need and press install
@nordicpride9708
@nordicpride9708 5 жыл бұрын
a DIY Car Guy How well does this tool work with Toyota?
@skywalk-er
@skywalk-er 3 жыл бұрын
So just to be clear , can you reprogram the computer in your vehicle with this unit?
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 3 жыл бұрын
no, it's a scanner, it can run tests on different systems, view live data, scan codes, delete codes, stuff like that
@pirihern9329
@pirihern9329 6 жыл бұрын
Does this have bi directional ability for example able to signal open and close evap solenoids , relays ,valves , etc. Will purchase one if able to.working on emissions issues po448 on a 2006 subaru sti do have an autel 609.great video
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 6 жыл бұрын
No you can't operate individual relays, however it will test a module or system and detect if a component is bad, no need to activate a relay and then use a multimeter on the pins or something lol.
@deerhunter8533
@deerhunter8533 5 жыл бұрын
Not good
@bhavinpatel5113
@bhavinpatel5113 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Can you use this to verify/find out true odometer mileage?
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It will show the odometer reading from wherever it is stored on the car.. from the ECU or guage cluster..
@MarkCervantes-st2mg
@MarkCervantes-st2mg 6 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if the Autel MaxiCOM MK808, allows you to program the ECM, like the ability to change transmission shifting, fuel/air mixture, and change mph speed?
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 6 жыл бұрын
no you would need some kind of tuner or chip for that....maybe a scanner in the thousands of $$ could do that but I don't think so IMO
@robertjohnson4401
@robertjohnson4401 3 жыл бұрын
Will it graph live data?
@alilaila8413
@alilaila8413 4 жыл бұрын
Does it scan old version cars? '90's? Early 2000? Thanks
@NavigatedChaos
@NavigatedChaos 6 жыл бұрын
So this'll let you program key fobs?
@asimiqbal7421
@asimiqbal7421 5 жыл бұрын
Call_Me_Map G yes
@شًمُوِخٌوُِلَيًطُمّوّحٌ-ي8ر
@شًمُوِخٌوُِلَيًطُمّوّحٌ-ي8ر 5 жыл бұрын
It is possible to ask how the wireless car booster is programmed on the x808⚡⚡
@alisahid172
@alisahid172 5 жыл бұрын
How much money and which one is good I want to buy
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 5 жыл бұрын
around 499$, which one is good depends on what you need it to do, different scanners will do different things
@alisahid172
@alisahid172 5 жыл бұрын
@@aDIYCarGuy thank you
@ahmadghosheh3104
@ahmadghosheh3104 5 жыл бұрын
There got to be a way I can find out if it supports my car's functions before I drop $600 to find out it doesn't do this or that on my cars. Autel website is very vague. I would rather drop $1200 on a higher version to get more functions but again, that one doesn't tell me either.
@PASA033
@PASA033 5 жыл бұрын
How can i see regeneration history and injektor results??
@kenhvideoaotaokythuatchano320
@kenhvideoaotaokythuatchano320 4 жыл бұрын
Good job, thanks.
@bensgarage8325
@bensgarage8325 6 жыл бұрын
Can you look at airbag codes and clear them with this?
@andreojeda3072
@andreojeda3072 6 жыл бұрын
I remove my stereo on my 2005 corvette and installed a navigation. From a 2007 corvette also, it worked fine the first time but the second time I turn it back the screen was showing Theftlock is activated. Apparently I need to let the radio re learn the vehicle vin number but I can not find the way to do it with this MaxiCom that I bought. Please HELP ME.
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 6 жыл бұрын
I read that you need a Tech II tool for that or take it to a dealer and they can do it. From what I've read, those are the only two options.
@radar.9118
@radar.9118 2 жыл бұрын
السلام عليكم كيف يتم نقل البي دي اف من الاوتيل للجوال او الكمبيوتر للطبع اي فور
@jeff666p
@jeff666p 6 жыл бұрын
will this work to disable airbag lights and program keys?
@issahsuguru7480
@issahsuguru7480 2 жыл бұрын
Please I need one of the machine how may I get it
@thinkcartool3825
@thinkcartool3825 2 жыл бұрын
Amazon
@jamesveha6119
@jamesveha6119 6 жыл бұрын
I’m a mobile brake mechanic in need of an EPB scanner. I’ve been looking at the Autel EBS301 and the MK808. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 6 жыл бұрын
The MK808 has a lot of pro features from scanning all modules, to printing and saving customer info, and internet, and quick links to manuals, but if you don't need those resources, I think it's overkill for just brake work. It has a ton of other scanning ability but if you're not using them it wouldn't make sense to get it. It's a $274 difference between the two. If you plan on offering more services soon, maybe go with the MK808, if you plan to only do brake work for the foreseeable future, the EBS301 might be a better choice. I'm not sure where you're looking to buy from, but the prices I found are here in these Amazon affiliate links: amzn.to/2HNwfNA and amzn.to/2FEK0fy
@MRM-wp4gr
@MRM-wp4gr 6 жыл бұрын
EBS301 is way cheaper, and will do just about every EPB there is. I don't know if the MK can match that.
@carslover3509
@carslover3509 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@jbramos420
@jbramos420 3 жыл бұрын
Can it perform dme-ews synchronization to bmw e63 (650i) ?
@djazu
@djazu 6 жыл бұрын
Hello. did you try the brake bleed ? How it is working ?
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 6 жыл бұрын
did not try it yet but I will soon, need to bleed my van brakes and I think it's a supported vehicle on the scanner, so I might make a video of bleeding with this tool
@djazu
@djazu 6 жыл бұрын
a DIY Car Guy it would be great to see this function
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 5 жыл бұрын
@@djazu I tried the brake bleed in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKKxf5ehoK2eo80
@sergiocolchado2408
@sergiocolchado2408 4 жыл бұрын
Can you program 6.7 powerstroke injectors with it. ?
@JuanGonzalez-cq5zv
@JuanGonzalez-cq5zv 6 жыл бұрын
If You Change The Language Would You Also Get All The Diagnostics On That Language ? Or Just For The Settings I’m Asking Because My Brother Buy a Different Scanner With Different Languages But All The Diagnostics Are In English!!
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 6 жыл бұрын
In order to see diagnostics in another language, you will have to send an email to Autel and they will send you the program in your preferred language to install on the scanner. So yes you can have the diagnostics in another language.
@brahim-bouhamida
@brahim-bouhamida 6 жыл бұрын
Hello plz whats deference between autel md 808 and maxicom 808
@JakefromSF_NM
@JakefromSF_NM 5 жыл бұрын
Can I use that to shut off Vats?
@tomelgrekoable
@tomelgrekoable 6 жыл бұрын
Hi there, Looking For a Diag Tool; I was wondering which one between Mx808 or DS808 would be better, i cannot find any documents that explains clearly the differences between those 2 Tools, And i cannot believe the 300 § Difference is due to the connectors provided in the Kit.. Thanks :p
@autelobdprice7296
@autelobdprice7296 6 жыл бұрын
And nowadays autel launched a new version mk808bt with bluetooth connection, are there any differences between mk808/mk808bt? Or the hardware and software is the same thing? Only different from the bluetooth? tinyurl.com/pyl808u2 I think with a bluetooth might be more convenient.
@sterlingwitherspoon5709
@sterlingwitherspoon5709 5 жыл бұрын
Tom Elgreko I guess u just answered your own question lol
@paulmccall7246
@paulmccall7246 4 жыл бұрын
Will not work on a Cadillac?
@Loulou-iv9ml
@Loulou-iv9ml 6 жыл бұрын
How to use DS 808 to program cars keys, and how to read key codes?
@budduautomobiles6081
@budduautomobiles6081 5 жыл бұрын
Thes prodact onli for eurup? Adia posibol?
@robertv8851
@robertv8851 5 жыл бұрын
Does it have bi directional if not forget it.
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 5 жыл бұрын
somewhat, you gotta pay more for full bi-directional
@rayenra.3519
@rayenra.3519 6 жыл бұрын
Do it work on Japanese cars?? I'm looking to buy one but only for Japanese cars
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 6 жыл бұрын
yes, honda acura toyota lexus scion mazda isuzu mitsubishi nissan infiniti suzuki
@cruisecontrol4400
@cruisecontrol4400 3 жыл бұрын
Can it program injectors?
@paulalivio7930
@paulalivio7930 6 жыл бұрын
Hey about mini cooper is there any immobilizer key and tec learning.thanks
@alannala764
@alannala764 6 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, quick Q - does it require annual subscription? if Y - How much? thanks. Alex
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 6 жыл бұрын
no subscription, 1 free update, paid updates after that...verify details with the listing before purchase
@alannala764
@alannala764 6 жыл бұрын
thanks for respond ... HOW MUCH annual subscr? If I will NOT buy subscription - Will the Unit be blocked from future use?
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 6 жыл бұрын
I will post the distributors word here haha: "once you purchased this scanner, you can enjoy one year free updating. Once expired, you can choose to update it or not. If you don't update it, you still can use this scanner with the current software version. And also the updating cost of this scanner is very cost-effective, only needs USD124.5 for one year. By Motorzone SELLER on November 16, 2017"
@alannala764
@alannala764 6 жыл бұрын
really thank you for good communication. Alex
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 6 жыл бұрын
you're welcome!
@tweker69
@tweker69 5 жыл бұрын
Does it have the vehicle Kia Sorrento 2000's
@arnoldogarcia2495
@arnoldogarcia2495 4 жыл бұрын
Gracias amigo
@isaacappiah8739
@isaacappiah8739 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks boss,very good video we have here i really like this one.. Can you help me get?
@william_8844
@william_8844 5 жыл бұрын
How much does it cost
@sterlingwitherspoon5709
@sterlingwitherspoon5709 5 жыл бұрын
Do you need a subscription to view the online manuals?
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 5 жыл бұрын
no subscription required. however, annual updates do cost money if you want or need the updates if you're working on new vehicles
@kirkbrown2147
@kirkbrown2147 3 жыл бұрын
Does it still work on older cars if you choose not to update
@stephengallego2132
@stephengallego2132 6 жыл бұрын
can i add software for programming and coding this unit ???
@JackSquat54
@JackSquat54 6 жыл бұрын
Can it do a diagnostic road test ?
@MrChallengerSRT
@MrChallengerSRT 6 жыл бұрын
Does it scan AIR BAG?
@amirshake9803
@amirshake9803 5 жыл бұрын
Hi. Plesde, Do i need to pay for any form of subscription?
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 5 жыл бұрын
no but you need to pay to update it as the years go on
@amirshake9803
@amirshake9803 5 жыл бұрын
@@aDIYCarGuy many thanks
@davega6883
@davega6883 5 жыл бұрын
Just Wondering That one got Misfire display data?
@EddieVBlueIsland
@EddieVBlueIsland 5 жыл бұрын
I do not understand why automobile manufactures simply don't install this as standard equipment on all new cars integrated into the typical dash (almost useless) touch pads.
@william_8844
@william_8844 5 жыл бұрын
Reduce cost
@شًمُوِخٌوُِلَيًطُمّوّحٌ-ي8ر
@شًمُوِخٌوُِلَيًطُمّوّحٌ-ي8ر 5 жыл бұрын
It is possible to ask how the car throttle is programmed⚡⚡
@jimbuford4147
@jimbuford4147 5 жыл бұрын
How do you know which vehicles it will support? Company information is sketchy at best. Thanks
@macbookgenius007
@macbookgenius007 6 жыл бұрын
Hi does this version do all the systems such as engine, srs, abs, transmission, and ebs? Also will it program fobs and keys with or without fobs? Thanks
@obdprice
@obdprice 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, Brilliant! I just got the upgraded one MK808BT, it does all the systems such as engine, srs, abs, transmission, and ebs. And it has an unique function IMMO which is mainly used to disable the lost vehicle keys and program a new replacement key fob.
@joshmedlin976
@joshmedlin976 6 жыл бұрын
qinze zheng so it does program keys? I’m looking to buy one next week
@obdprice
@obdprice 6 жыл бұрын
I got it from obdprice.com, you can send your #VIN to them for confirm. If it also works well with your vehicle.
@husko_racing
@husko_racing 6 жыл бұрын
key no
@davyrockxx1563
@davyrockxx1563 4 жыл бұрын
can you reset transmission shift adapts with this machine?
@kingbolen_official
@kingbolen_official 4 жыл бұрын
Yes sir
@andycampos2542
@andycampos2542 5 жыл бұрын
Can you read codes if engine will not run
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 5 жыл бұрын
yea, as long as the vehicle's battery is charged and you can turn the power on with the key
@thewt
@thewt 6 жыл бұрын
Well. I just purchased a DS808. Perhaps when it comes in I will make my own review, probably wont be as good as yours are. I haven't found any information about the DS808, at least nothing that didn't contradict something else later on.
@aDIYCarGuy
@aDIYCarGuy 6 жыл бұрын
nice! that's a step up from this one that I have
@philip.aocallaghan4602
@philip.aocallaghan4602 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, this tool has all the makes and models but does it support all the models and makes, and to what level does it support. most information given about this tool is conflicting. Where one will say yes it does support DPF regeneration and another will say it only supports a certain few brands, One will say it will programme car keys, Another will say no only key fob..Asking Autel for this information is a total waste of time.. I've asked so many times what is the most up to date year supported and what is supported, but nobody will give a definite answer. While its a cheap enough scan tool, you really need to know what exactly are the makes and models is actually capable of performing several procedures on. before buying
@byronsequeira7483
@byronsequeira7483 5 жыл бұрын
Does program keyfob?
@hp11208
@hp11208 6 жыл бұрын
Nice
@garyrobinson5719
@garyrobinson5719 5 жыл бұрын
Can Anyone explain what the difference is between the mk 808 and the mx 808 ??? I'm in the US
@chavarrias151
@chavarrias151 5 жыл бұрын
the main difference is the MX is the American model while the MK is the European model. --
@zeth8300
@zeth8300 4 жыл бұрын
I cant wait to get mines my dodge nitro is marking engine.
@rishalkharbyngar4346
@rishalkharbyngar4346 4 жыл бұрын
Would like to order one please suggest me
@kingbolen_official
@kingbolen_official 4 жыл бұрын
What features are important if you use a scanner?
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