Authentic Pagan Folk Song in Old Prussian Language "Miniks saulikan weddi" (Kristaps Kukurs)

Sudūvos aukštumos vaizdas iš paukščio skrydžio ir liaudies daina Liudviko Rėzos užrašyta Piktupėnų apylinkėse prie Tilžės, Romuvos išversta į Prūsų kalbą. |
Sudovian highlands (Góra Zamkowa) from above - the historical lands of West Baltic Sudovians (Yotvingians) & an excerpt of an authentic folk song from East Prussia first recorded from country people in Piktupėnai (Piktupönen) near Tilžė (Tilsit) in 18th century and printed in the song collection by Ludwig Rhesa. The song's original lyrics are in Lithuanian language (Preußisch-Litauische) but the pagan Romuva community has translated it (back?) to West Baltic Old Prussian language - that's the version you can now hear in this video. The singer is Kristaps Kukurs.
TRANSLATION OF THE FULL LYRICS:
Moon has married Sun
In the very first Spring
Sun had gotten up early
Moon had separated
Moon had been walking around alone
He made love to the Morning Star
Thunder got greatly enraged
And cut him in half:
- Why have you separated from Sun?
Why have you made love to the Morning Star
And have been walking around all nigh alone?
FULL LYRICS:
Mīniks Saulīkan weddi
Pirmanin wasarīkan
Ankstāi saūli etskīja
Mīniks izsklaitinna si
Mīniks aīns neikaūwa
Deināinan enmilīwuns
Perkūns spārtai ernērtuns
Tennan pērpus perkīrta
- Iz saūlin izslaitinna s’
Deināinan enmilīwuns?
Deināinan enmilīwuns
En naktin aīns neikaūwuns?
DAINOS ŽODŽIAI:
Mėnuo saulužę vedė
Pirmą pavasarėlį.
Saulužė anksti kėlės,
Mėnužis atsiskyrė
Mėnuo viens vaikštinėjo,
Aušrinę pamylėjo.
Perkūns, didžiai supykęs,
Jį kardu perdalijo.
- Ko saulužės atsiskyrei?
Aušrinę pamylėjai?
Viens naktį vaikštinėjai?

[@kursisjodukavejs6548]

I am latvian and this song is touching my soul.Maybe its because they are our lost balt brothers...

[@Balticfolk]

Maybe it's also because a Latvian man is singing this Old Prussian song :)

[@Bdrbs]

WTF is balticslavic? At the age of northen crusades Balts and Slavs were different nations

[@Bdrbs]

Steus Sleimass and? I told you already that during northen crusades slavs and balts already were different nations.

[@RmRoyalflush]

No one asked the Deutschritter Orden to settle down in Prussia

[@julianfejzo4829]

They are not really extinct they just lose their language in favor to German

[@lukepaul6256]

Fallen baltic brother…as a lithuanian this brings a special feeling that only the remaining balts can understand i think..sadness, sorrow and a deep connection with the language..its sad that the real prussians are gone now, gone but not forgotten

[@lebeninglastonburyderinsel1766]

My herritage is from that place. LIstening to that song brought tears to my eyes. I know that some of my Lithuanian ancestors are Curanians, but maybe there were also Prussians as I found it easy to sing this song and to pronounce it. They are not forgotten and their plight also not . We are the once which carry it forward. Nothing is forgotten.

[@user-lp6to9hb7m]

​@@lebeninglastonburyderinsel1766Сейчас птомки тевтонских рыцарей в лице Бундесвера с теми же крестами по приглашению литовского правительства находятся в Литве, ирония судьбы да и только. Раньше тевтоны истреблять племена западных балтов по просьбе короля Польши. А теперь тех же немцев позвали литовцы воевать с русскими. Тевтоны истребили западных балтов, восточные балты ничем не помогли и спокойно смотрели на истребление, последних оставшихся в живых заподных балтов немцы ассимилировали и назвали пруссами, ТАК ЧТО НЕ ЗАБЫТО??? Разница только в том что западные балты не могли в одиночку победить в противостоянии обьединенным войскам Польши и Германии. А Россия может уничтожить обьединенные войска НАТО, применив термоядерное оружие.

[@ignasignas6643]

The song sounds like last prussian telling farewell

[@xgamerx360x]

I love the sound of Baltic folk music, it’s beautiful.

[@umbertobombace8367]

I'm Italian, one of my closest friends is lithuanian. Visited Lithuania last year: I felt in love with it. Wonderful people, wonderful culture.

[@umbertobombace8367]

@Not so bloomer Labas

[@vilks7657]

It makes me feel homesick for a place I have never been 😓❣

[@atleborgemoen952]

I'm Norwegian. I love you and music. Baltic is our heritage.

[@_phosphorus]

@@rinaldslibeks1592 That's the human nature, humans are predators.

[@miglius1992]

Takk for det! Mange vet ikke det du vet om :D

[@eldoka3649]

Norway doesn't even have a coast to baltic xd

[@JH-pv6rd]

🇱🇹❤️🇳🇴

[@TheMiklaw]

@@eldoka3649 Bit late comment, but historically Norway Denmark and Norway Sweden did have cost line to the Baltic sea.

[@ThePumpingiron27]

Beautiful!! I have a lot of ancestors that came from Prussia. The language is gorgeous!

[@TheGoldenOne]

Greetings from Sweden!

[@Angelotube5000]

Be Glorious!

[@bizbite2]

The Golden One - thanks, Prussia is living (well no longer living) reminder that a culture and people can be destroyed by the invading power... #PaganPride ... #BalticPride ... #EuropeanPride ... long live Pagans of Europe #resist 🌳🌳🔥🌳🌳

[@neja4906]

Tjena!

[@kamikaze8625]

I've returned to this song every now and then :)

[@josephwarra5043]

Resurrected from a an almost forgotten past, it is not entirely gone if only we few remember. The spirits of our ancestors whisper to us through song and story if we only listen.

[@arnasLT.]

Beautiful homage to our fallen baltic brothers, the Prussians. Peter of Dusburg in his Chronicon terræ Prussiæ writes how the Teutonic Order wiped out all Prus who did not bow their head to the Order... We in Lithuania shall never forget the memory of our Prussian brothers.

[@user-lp6to9hb7m]

В момент когда пруссов тевтоны истребляли вы сидели как мыши, тихо и молча наблюдая за истреблением пруссов. Притом что истреблять не покорных пруссов пригласили поляки. С которыми вы образовали одно государство общее государство заключи унию. Вы лицимерный народ, так что это не вы незабудете истребление пруссов, а история не даст забыть вашего лицемерного позора.

[@saintremy7333]

Что вы теперь делаете с украинцами ... не вам говорить о братстве...

[@user-lp6to9hb7m]

@@saintremy7333 С украинцами ничего, а вот с всу делаем, то что они делали с жителями Донбасса☝☝☝

[@biancaverdeschi880]

Long live Prussia through all the ages.

[@MsDanile]

nuostabu.labai graziai

[@slaftir8966]

I got east Prussian ancestors. Now I live in Austria. It's a shame that the Baltic/Prussian culture is almost forgotten.

[@ugnikalnis]

Here In Lithuania about 2 decades ago died last Man who spoke fluently old Prussian. What is left from old Prussians they mixed with Lithuanians.

[@jarekdupa687]

@@ugnikalnis Old Prussian already died out by the early 18th century

[@raggie1778]

​@@jarekdupa687Not Die, Jewish Culture Is Die And Prussian Culture Still Alive In Today.

[@toomanyblocks8448]

Turned on Lithuanian subtitles, sounds almost identical!

[@kamikaze8625]

I often come back to this

[@kamikaze8625]

I seriously do.

[@krizar07]

Amazing! Greetings from Poland.

[@sabat8068]

we have a lot of folk songs in latvian about sun and moon getting married :)

[@westernbalt5534]

So cool! :) I feel the connection with my deep ancestors.

[@brendanmclaren2668]

Yes

[@GoyliathZiofister]

The best thing about these old folk songs is the genuine norse conscience emanating from their lyrics, melodic makeup and ostinatos.

[@NeyooxetuseiDreamer]

Peasants are from a past that is neither pagan men nor religion men, but the older culture of the Sun Goddess, not the Norse SUN CULTS GODS

[@entodiz]

Pateicos! Esmu no senprūšiem. Paldies Dzimis Rīgā. 198830

[@Kili_1701]

Its so calming and beautiful... I am really amazed but what that song is doing to my soul. Normally right now I am really anxious and nervous and all but...wow... That song managed to calm me down and to relax. I love it. I love the language too. I would give so much to be able to learn it! Greeting from Germany~

[@Balticfolk]

This song has the same effect on me too! I'm so glad more people are discovering and enjoying it :)

[@Kili_1701]

@@Balticfolk ^•^ Me too. Sadly my friends dont share interest to these kind of things. But i really love it

[@vilks7657]

@@Kili_1701ein bißchen wie Fernweh nach ein Ort/Land wo man noch nie war ❣ Berürhrt das Herz und die Seele... LG aus Nachbarland Niederlande

[@Kili_1701]

@@vilks7657 So wahr. (Niederlande ist awesome~)

[@vilks7657]

@@Kili_1701 unser Land hat sich leider geändert, genau wie euer Land. Es ist nicht mehr das gleiche. Aber dieses Lied hat so etwas gewisses...man spürrt - auf irgend eine Weise - seine Herkunft. Wünsche alles Gute.

[@Adrian-kz2hs]

Beautiful

[@INecr0]

It sounds like Lithuanian/Latvian mixed with Old Polish for me...like our Commonwealth :) Greetings from Poland!

[@sniegurochka]

@@Jarvis87378 no :)

[@djakmalinakot8568]

Yes

[@D.S_Productions]

Prūsai we need this Baltic Country Back! Without Germanic Influence

[@user-lp6to9hb7m]

Так ты хочешь объявить войну Польше, России и Литве???🤔

[@syierarose5300]

This song. Gives me. The most AMAZING ASMR. I love it.

[@Balticfolk]

GolyathZiofister, it's interesting that you would say it sounds Nordic because it's not atypical for Balts in any way. For example, you can compare it to this typical Latvian song Latvian folk music | Latviešu tautas dziesma - Projām jāiet (Vilki) or this typical East Lithuanian one Jonas Trinkūnas "An kalno an aukštojo" So, maybe "Norse" is not the best way to describe this type of singing as it appears to be common on both sides of the Baltic sea.

[@Perkun1410]

Imagine if Old Prussia existed...

[@Lee-jh6cr]

OMG. How I wish. I am Mazuren. But without the Mazovian blood, I wouldn't exist. I'd be like some remotely distant half-cousin twice removed variation of myself. Have to settle for mixed Baltic genes!

[@user-lp6to9hb7m]

Тогда литовцы не были бы покрыты вечным позором, трусов. И не были бы прокляты погибшими западно балтскими племенами, за то что не пришли на помошь когда в ней нуждались. Но это из разряда если бы, да кабы. Историю не перепишь из нее можно извлечь или не извлечь урок. В Литве с цветами встречают немцем потомков тевтонцев с теми-же самыми черными крестами истребивших западных балтов по просьбе Польши и с богословления папы Римского, так о чем говорить??? Предатель и лицимер всегда останется тем кто он есть, он может лишь менять маски на лице, а сущность останется таже.

[@pyroxene9156]

This is so beautiful

[@zenetasakeniene3783]

The Prussian language looks like a Lithuanian language

[@Balticfolk]

There are bound to be some similarities as both languages share a common linguistic ancestor some thousands of years ago but thereare differences too - for an ordinary Lithuanian it would be difficult to decipher all words in this song without any mistakes :)

[@lilithwulf]

There definitely are a lot of similarities, but they aren't so mutually intelligible like the Scandinavian languages or how Thai and Lao are, for example. There are a lot of cognates where the word is nearly the exact same like mēniks/mėnulis, saūlis/saulė, rānkā/ranka, and so on - but there are also some false cognates where the words look similar but mean something different like how "be" means "without" in LT while in PR it is the word for "and," and how "kai" in LT means "when" while "kāi" in PR means "how" or "that (cj.)." In Lithuanian there are 7 noun cases and 2 genders while in Prussian there are only 4 noun cases - nominative, genitive, dative, and accusative - while there are 3 genders - masculine, feminine, and neuter - so it is more similar to German in that respect. There are some unique grammatical traits that are shared in both PR and LT, such as when you say "I like," the "I" takes the dative case as to say "for me it is liked" - mennei padīnga/man patinka, as well as the use of "double negatives" to create meaning that looks rather strange to english speakers. For example, if you wanted to say "I haven't eaten anything all day," in PR this would translate to "As nika ni ēda pastippan dēinan," similar to LT, "Aš nieko nevalgiau visą dieną" - which to literally translate in english would look like "I nothing no ate entire/all day" which wouldn't make sense as it does when speaking in either LT or PR. If you want to learn more about the beautiful language of the Old Prussians, you should come visit the website for the revivalist movement here: twanksta.org/ Some useful links on the website are the wirdēins, or dictionary, where you can look up the prussian translation for most any words you would like from a multitude of different languages: wirdeins.twanksta.org/ and Bilā, where you can do some practice lessons if you wish to get started learning the language: bila.twanksta.org/home And if you would like to hear more of how the language is spoken today you can check out the Prūsiska TV youtube channel (some videos are even captioned with english subtitles which can be very useful) - kzbin.info/door/qhLH_SLh3apNZjSruEXZMg

[@markskise]

Baltu brāļi turas kopā!

[@user-xk4kz5ng5x]

Спасибо! очень красивая песня , жаль только короткая и отдельное спасибо за русские субтитры

[@carloscobalto4702]

English translation of lyrics: Moon has married Sun In the very first Spring Sun had gotten up early Moon had separated Moon had been walking around alone He made love to the Morning Star Thunder got greatly enraged And cut him in half: - Why have you separated from Sun? Why have you made love to the Morning Star And have you been walking around all night alone? From volkischpaganism.com/page/2/

[@twolilfishies]

Mīniks Saulīkan weddi Pirmanin wasarīkan Ankstāi saūli etskīja Mīniks izsklaitinna si

[@Balticfolk]

This is only an excerpt of the song but I have posted the full lyrics and their translation in video description, so that if anybody wanted to learn this song could learn it in full rather than just one verse.

[@benkeplateonline748]

English lyrics are not accurate and therefore make a misleading meaning. Unfortunately I understand only some of the original song. But it's enough to see the difference.

[@CRP17]

so sad that such an ancient culture died out but their genetics survived in many "Germans" with origins from east Prussia. Funny to see their Ancestry results with 80% Baltic heritage after hundreds of years of assimilation

[@Lee-jh6cr]

Also mixed with Mazovian Poles in Mazury. I am of Mazuren ancestry from the Nidzica area. We still have relatives there.

[@user-lp6to9hb7m]

​@@Lee-jh6crПоляки пригласили тевтонцев истреблять пруссов.

[@radiomerkurs3561]

Skaisti! 💖🇱🇻

[@scerebr]

Sudovians They are with you.

[@maxwellalexander2962]

Damn, someone needs to mass-produce shit like this, not enough Lithuanian-sounding folk. Would be nice to hear the songs made "soundtrack-esque"

[@rajjar]

Piękne.

[@ahyan14]

Old Prussian tribes disappeared due to German and polish cultural assimilation. That’s so sad

[@imorii]

I didn't know that Prussian language still exists... So it's sad that crusaders destroyed them. It similar language with Lithuanian, 20% can understand it

[@artursbondars7789]

As language, the prussian people still exist to.

[@magnus_ducatus9684]

@@artursbondars7789 I am pretty sure that people who live on modern Kaliningrad are genetically of Prusso-slavic admixture

[@artursbondars7789]

@@magnus_ducatus9684 some local population managed to be left alone after German Prussian state dissulution in years after the war. Largely they were replaced by soviet migrant population, wich for the most part tooday are russian speaking. Baltic prussian orientated population managed to preserve themselves between baltic speaking neihboring Latvian and Lithuanian communities and in other countries.

[@magnus_ducatus9684]

@@artursbondars7789 Most likely the majority of old Prussian-German mix people have left for mainland Germany.

[@user-lp6to9hb7m]

​@@magnus_ducatus9684Если исходить что все люди появились от африканского прото человека Люси, то мы все одной крови. Но мы в Калининграде русские.

[@umbi8051]

impressive

[@rds7516]

Honestly, I think that old prussian sounds more like lithuanian than like latvian.

[@Ekvitarius]

They're both Baltic languages.

[@rds7516]

+Ekvitarius Yeah, no shit.

[@Gallo4]

Youre right, its because Old Prussian and Lithuanian have a much more conservative language- they are both much nearer on the original Proto-Indoeuropean language than latvian, even if it is Baltic.

[@Balticfolk]

This song is performed buy a Latvian guy who has learned it from a Lithuanian guy, so, in this recording you can hear a Latvian accent on top of a Lithuanian accent of Old Prussian :) I'll try to upload a recording of a linguist trying to speak Old Prussian without any accent one of these days.

[@xakep4182]

Yes, that's true because Latvian language was influenced by absorbed finougrai tribes living in current Latvian territory.

[@floki8540]

Great song my Baltic brothers and sisters from Slavic brother !

[@AzJesmWolimir]

great msuic!greetings From Poland Born in Gołdap next to Prussia bordergreat msuic!greetings From Poland Born in Gołdap mext to Prussia border

[@Lee-jh6cr]

My family immigrated from Nidzica area in the 1800s. Still have relatives there!

[@ziemospavasaris1588]

❤

[@bizbite2]

🔥🔥🔥 Prussians were for the lack of the better word genocided by Teutonic knights, then by French, Slavic (Polish/Russian, etc) conquerers.. This is a reminder to all nations of the world that no nation is permanent, and needs to be defended from outside invaders and corrupt leaders/politicians from within... #BalticPride ... #PaganPride ... #EuropeanPride ... forgive but never forget!!! 😢

[@turro3212]

Ah yes , the teutonic order , great Warriors!

[@DubmanicGetFlazed]

A nation can live on in the hearts and minds of its peoples descendants, long after it has been physically destroyed. Just look at Israel!!! back from the grave 2500 years later. (some scholars dispute whether a kingdom of Israel even existed believe it or not.)

[@shrekas2966]

@@DubmanicGetFlazed Modern Israel would be bad example in this case. Its culture is ashkenazi judaism. It tries to destroy the very foundation of what Isreal actually was - a semetic land. Modern Israel hates semetic culture.

[@turro3212]

✠Christ ist erstanden von den Toten.✠ Im Tode bezwang er den Tod, und schenkte den Entschlaf'nen das Leben. Gott steht auf; seine Feinde zerstieben, und ihn hassend fliehen vor seinem Angesicht. Christ ist erstanden von den Toten, bezwang den Tod; und schenkte den Entschlaf'nen das Leben. Wie Rauch verweht, so verwehen sie; wie Wachs vor dem Feuer zerfließt. Christ ist erstanden von den Toten, bezwang den Tod; und schenkte den Entschlaf'nen das Leben. So vergehen von dort die Bösen, doch die Gerechten sind froh. Christ ist erstanden von den Toten, bezwang den Tod; und schenkte den Entschlaf'nen das Leben. Dies ist der Tag den der Herr gemacht; lasst uns jubeln und seiner uns freuen. Christ ist erstanden von den Toten, bezwang den Tod; und schenkte den Entschlaf'nen das Leben. Ehre sei dem Vater und dem Sohne und dem heiligen Geiste. Christ ist erstanden von den Toten, bezwang den Tod; und schenkte den Entschlaf'nen das Leben. Jetzt in alle Zeit und von Ewigkeit für Ewigkeit. Amen! Christ ist erstanden von den Toten, bezwang den Tod; und schenkte den Entschlaf'nen das Leben.

[@sportsfisher9677]

Yeah, if you are going to make a list do not forget that Lithuanians took part of Baltic Prussia too. In Addition, in the 1200's The Mongol Hordes had an army come through parts of Prussia, raiding and slaughtering too.

[@adamender9092]

It saddens me that the whole Prussian identity, language and culture is forgotten

[@Lee-jh6cr]

I am Mazuren. It is not all forgotten.

[@pete_smith]

I feel this after i received in my ancestry dna test that i’m 53% eastern european and 47%(!) Baltic.

[@sportsfisher9677]

Baltic is Eastern European my friend.

[@rolandaz666]

@@sportsfisher9677 Please note the Baltic region is located in Northern Europe.

[@moisuomi]

Many Balts mixed with Eastern Europeans. One example is expansion of the powerful Lithuanians.

[@magnus_ducatus9684]

@@moisuomi Very little assimilation happened except the nobles

[@BigBadWolframio]

Is there a way for me to find the full version of this song? It's really haunting and the singer's voice... woa! I really love it!

[@Balticfolk]

As far as I know, this singer has only made this small piece for a documentary. There is a full version of this song by a different singer: soundcloud.com/baltic-folk/old-prussian-folk-song-miniks-saulikan-weddi-kulgrinda But I must confess, that Kristaps' voice is more haunting and true to this song, it's a pity he hasn't made more recordings in Old Prussian available.

[@BigBadWolframio]

Yeah, I found that one but was a little... disapointing, I guess. Thank you so much for your answer!

[@romski9665]

@@BigBadWolframio I searched for it myself, and found the song (I think the same one used here, but in full) at this youtube video. Hope it helps! kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6G0iISLa5qJiqM

[@BigBadWolframio]

@@romski9665 Gosh, I've seen this a whole year later! Thanks and sorry! 💚

[@romski9665]

@@BigBadWolframio Of course, glad it helps! :)

[@atryan1125]

I live in Yotvingian land

[@Balticfolk]

May Yotvingian spirit be strong in you!

[@pamelapap]

Thank you for posting this. My husband's father side is from Prussia who then migrated to Pennsylvania. Could you please recommend a book on the Prussia culture? I am Bolivian Aymara and my son is part Prussian so it'd be wonderful to teach him about all the cultures he is descendent from.

[@fritzhaarmann6841]

Mes gīwimai (tēr izgūntinis)!

[@orwisors7027]

Gerai kad gyvi , bet vardas jau nebe prūsiškas...

[@pavelkogut948]

I notice similarities in the spirit of resistance that Old Prussians had versus Teutonic Order, and - centuries later - the same spirit in Forest Brothers vis-a-vis USSR

[@user-lp6to9hb7m]

Лесные братья служили вермахту и их руководителю гитлеру, потомкам тевтонов.

[@user-ge4uk9ui8y]

wow this is weird, I could understand like 80% of the song just by reading the prussian subtitiles and listening to the song, no need to look at the translation.

[@hubertstojanowski2418]

Jest klimat. Ale warto podać autora tego filmu z Góry Zamkowej.

[@Tupinambinae]

Thank you for sharing it. A part of my ancesters are also prussian and I feel deep conected with this song. Where can I find the full version? I try to sing and play it with guitar :-)

[@Balticfolk]

Hi, Bensch Blau, sorry for late response: this singer has only made this small piece for a documentary. There is a full version of this song by a different singer: soundcloud.com/baltic-folk/old-prussian-folk-song-miniks-saulikan-weddi-kulgrinda

[@user-lj4vl8we5z]

Ginni! k Kwēi ast šis grēma? sta ast līkuts variants

[@vonRoenick]

Where can I find the authentic words to this song and the English translation?

[@Vabamba19]

Я з України. Був, є і завжди буду звідти) Дякую вам, панове.

[@jeym7207]

Where can I get the full version of the song?

[@songbird427]

I’m going to cry. I just found this while researching to find my Prussian ancestors. I’m an ethnomusicologist and a part time genealogist so to find the music took that piece of my soul home to be embraced by many grandmothers. Corny sounding, but it’s how I feel. I haven’t found my Prussian 3rd great grandfather’s family, born in Baden-Baden circa 1820. Just learned his name was changed when he was in Louisiana leaving for the Isthmus of Panama and on to San Francisco. There he met and married my Irish 3rd great-grandmother. They settled in Tuolumne County and had many very tall children. If anyone knows about Prussian history and this brings things to memory that could help me learn about him, I would be very grateful for info. I’m wondering if he left because he was 15 or 16 and was nearing 6’ tall. Both his parents were Prussian as well.

[@jusienka1]

Prussians were Baltic people originally and they do not have nothing originally with Germanic language or people, Germanic people flying to Prussia for settlement much later

[@janisberzins8810]

Skaista valoda, baltu valodai līdzīgs izruna.

[@sniegurochka]

broliai!

[@scerebr]

ahh Sudovia... ahhh Yotvings...

[@sarunasbareika4176]

I am lithuanian an understand about 20-30% of this song.

[@merames1921]

Очень красиво))) жалко они исчезли((

[@jannekaro9068]

Они не исчезли, они - среди нас. Но, потеряв язык, они больше не могут быть одним народом 😢

[@vinayaks7495]

Lot's of love from India 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👏👏👏👏👏

[@user-xk4kz5ng5x]

Интересно как много людей говорит на прусском? Как воссоздали? Много ли книг, записей осталось в архивах? Эта песня старинная?

[@Marius67]

Da mnogo ponimajut daze ja litovec potomu cto jazyk pochoze kak u vas russkij s belorusskim ..vot tak ...udaci eto FAKT

[@Marius67]

Polovinu ponimaju my ocen blizkije ...

[@Marius67]

I voobce kogdato mesto kionigsberga byl litovskii KARALIAUCIUS

[@orwisors7027]

@@Marius67 Tvankstė, o ne Karaliaučius.

[@Marius67]

@@orwisors7027 gal nezinojau

[@Vitalis94]

Hi, I was wondering if anyone could recommend me some books on Balts or Prussian in particular. Something more academic, not just a light read for a layman.

[@averagejoe7987]

I am not an expert in that field but here are my two cents. You can have a look at google scholar. It's specifically used for academic documents. Academic documents usually contain literature reference. Just search for prussian language there and you will find a lot of entries. Another good way to start a search is to have a look at wikipedias literature section regarding you topic of interest. The english wikipedia page for "old prussian language" has more than 20 entries in the literature section. If you want to hear people speak prussian you can do that here on youtube, too. Just search for the channel "Prūsiska Tāliwidāsna". Hope that helpes.

[@occultistoftheorder3239]

Anyone know if there is a full record of the song and where to find it? Would be very much appreciated. I'll take any pointers as to where to find and buy the record too, of course.

[@Balticfolk]

This singer has only made this small piece for a documentary about Old Prussians. There's a full version of this song by a different folk group called: soundcloud.com/baltic-folk/old-prussian-folk-song-miniks-saulikan-weddi-kulgrinda I have to add that Kristaps' voice is more haunting and true to this song, it really is a pity that he hasn't made more recordings in Old Prussian available.

[@radrobb7705]

I have some prussian ancestors.....

[@Balticfolk]

That's definitely an ancestry to be proud of :)

[@radrobb7705]

Baltic folk I dont even know many things.I know i am some precent baltic(prussian)because one of my great great father was prussian.I am romanian but my grandpa is german(transylvanian saxon prussian amd bavarian)and i thing i am baltic from my grandpa.

[@Ohmi_nice]

+Nicolae Ekkhard Romania is 40 % Lithuanian genetic pool. Dacians who lived in territory of Romania where baltic origin. I also met german girl in Milan. Her last name was Kuchale, I said to her, that Kuchale means Kuršiai (Lithuanian region near old prussia) And she said to me, that her family tree came from Prussia.

[@radrobb7705]

Karolis dude one of my grand grand mother is from konigsberg... and my dna test said of my romanian origins balkan trachian(dacian and illyrian)

[@Ohmi_nice]

+Nicolae Ekkhard tracians and dacians originated from balts . Tracians are called Trakėnų Tauta and Dacians are sort for Danubians/Danubai in wikipedia Tracian language is writen

[@moisuomi]

Honestly this may anger some balts, but I am not joking when I say his accent is quite similar to Finnish.

[@jeffsimmons4822]

Polish-American. Prussia should exist again.

[@gustavodemira7416]

Here are some links if you are interested in Prusai/Prus: awizi.twanksta.org/ (Prussian news) pruskihoryzont.blogspot.com/ (Prussian blog) kpbc.umk.pl/dlibra/doccontent?id=26277 (book about Prusai in Poland) przegladbaltycki.pl/2830,wszystek-umre-jezyk-pruski.html (Polish article on the Prusai) donelaitis.vdu.lt/prussian/ (Prussian language reconstruction) kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqjWiZuPiplnock (Polish documentary on the Prusai)

[@markskise]

KARALAUČI

[@kudamm6938]

How many actual Prussian Germans have old Prussian blood? I ask cause my family is German but from this region. Dark hair.

[@Lee-jh6cr]

Ancestry can now check for Baltic genes.

[@loveaction12]

Idomu kad ira zodziu panasiu i Lietuviu. Ar senoves Prusu kalba panasesne i Lietuviu, ar Latviu ?

[@Balticfolk]

Adomas Dregunas Po to, kai atsiskyrė Baltai nuo Slavų, pirmasis skilimas buvo tarp Vakarų Baltų (iš kurių vėliau išsivystė Prūsų kalba) ir Rytų Baltų (iš kurių vėliau išsivystė Lietuvių ir Latvių kalbos), todėl pagal kilmę ir lietuvių, ir latvių kalbos vienodai artimos prūsų kalbai. Bet kadangi nuo Rytų Baltų prokalbės skilimo lietuvių kalba beveik nesikeitė, o latvių keitėsi smarkiai (jie labai daug žodžių pasiskolino iš lyvių, vokiečių, slavų), dabar prūsų kalba būtų truputį suprantamesnė lietuviams nei latviams. Čia galima pasižiūrėti žodyno artumą tarp skirtingų Indoeuropiečių šeimos kalbų (atmetus skolinius): s10.postimg.org/vufhb6fp5/The_Lexicostatistical_Distance_Matrix_for_Main_I.png Lietuvių-Latvių panašumas 78 balai, Lietuvių-Prūsų 76 balai, Latvių-Prūsų 68, Lietuvių-Rusų 67.

[@loveaction12]

Tai Lietuviu kalba ira panasesne i Vakaru Baltu Kalbas negu Rytu Baltu.

[@Balticfolk]

Adomas Dregunas Žodyno panašumas su Prūsų kalba pora balų mažesnis nei panašumas su Latvių kalba, todėl visgi Rytų Baltai esame :) Bet literatūrinė lietuvių kalba išvesta Prūsijos lietuvininkų ir Sudūvos suvalkiečių tarmių pagrindu (jos beveik nesiskyrė) - o tai Vakarų Baltų žemės. Tai gal dėl tos Vakarų Baltų įtakos ir liko tokia senoviška, mažai keitėsi lyginant su latvių kalba...

[@loveaction12]

Gal ir geras dalykas. Islaikem savo kalba. Nors as Vilnietis, tai neturiu dialekto kaip mano seneliai. Kalbu 'svariai'.

[@rds7516]

Adomas Dregunas Man atrodo taip, mūsų kalba yra labiausiai nekitusi visame pasaulyje, ne vienas žmogus buvo pasakęs "Jei nori išmokti kalbėti, kaip žmonės kalbėjo senai, kalbėk lietuviškai". Latvių kalba galbūt labiau keitėsi, o mes kaip "lūzeriai" likom kaip kalbėjom :pp

[@SimonasKiela]

Ar tikrai čia Kristaps dainuoja? Balsas labai panašus į Jono Trinkūno.

[@Balticfolk]

Taip, tikrai :) Trinkūno versiją irgi turiu kompiuteryje, skiriasi, o ir latviškas tarimas šioje versijoje juntamas...

[@healthyplutonium5442]

Ar yra ilgesnė šitos dainos versija?

[@imnothing1025]

So this is why the bad ass Teutons killed them, they sounded dark and strong. (jk I know history)

[@Achilless1]

Most of the words are Lithuanian but others are from a different language

[@Balticfolk]

All words are from the now extinct Old Prussian language. Some sound similar to Lithuanian because of the shared Baltic heritage :)

[@weedsm0ke]

What it has to do with ancient baltic tribes? Ancient baltic tribes and language was long before prussian they even say prussian language come from Lithuanian language well since there are so many holes in baltic history u will never know who ot from where they come

[@Balticfolk]

Old Prussians _were_one of the ancient Baltic tribes: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Baltic_Tribes_c_1200.svg Their language was a cousin of Lithuanian language: both Old Prussian and Lithuanian had developed from the same proto-Baltic language.

[@weedsm0ke]

???

[@Balticfolk]

In this case wiki happens to represent the mainstream opinion of archaeologists, linguists and historians who specialize in Baltic past :)

[@ziurininkas]

This is not authentic, this is translation of Lithuanian song from Eastern Prussia (Klein Litauen) to reconstructed Prussian. The melody is taken from Western Lithuania. Although nice voice.

[@Balticfolk]

ziurininkas This song is endemic to Prussia and it's been attested there among country people who have assimilated part of Prussia's indigenous population, so within the Prussian context is as authentic as one can possibly get. Songs can be translated from one language to another back and forth, but they still remain the same songs (plot, melody, rhythm). The words used for this Prussian translation come from authentic Old Prussian attestations (mainly the cathechisms & Elbing vocabulary), they're not neologisms.

[@ziurininkas]

Originally such type of mythological songs is more common in Latvia and could be brought by late Kursenieki settlers from Kurland, so there could be many versions to explain the origin of the song. In many main Lithuanian folklore mythological beings, like gods or even Sun or Moon were tabooized - preserving "sacrum", it was not allowed direct finger to the sky. Mythical events in calendar songs appear very metaphorically and softly, like "falling sparkle" which is supposed to be an act of cosmogony caused by thunder. Such wedding or similar songs seem to be desacralized becomming an object of simple folk poetry.

[@Balticfolk]

ziurininkas the current distribution hardly shows the origin rather than merely conservativenes of one or another area, considering that romances and ballads have become the most common song types in many areas pushing out the indigenous folklore. And geographically somewhat isolated fringes tend to retain more authentic things than the epicentre whence new fads tend to start. I'm somewhat skeptical about the notion of stellar bodies being a taboo because in many songs they (especially the sun) interact with humans on a fairly mundane level, e.g.: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3apqmeCrrCXaas Many other songs about love equate lads with Moon and maidens or women with the sun.

[@markskise]

Lietuva + Latvija = BALTIJA

[@magnus_ducatus9684]

Aistija is our true name with which our ancestors referred to themselves with. The name "Balt" came from outsider germans

[@markskise]

@@magnus_ducatus9684 nē balti, ir no Latviskā" balts" krāsa White. Nedrīkst arī aizmirst, ka ģenētiski esam viena Baltijas nācija. Latvieši, Latgali, Lietuvji, Prūši. Viena nācija.

[@magnus_ducatus9684]

@@markskise the anem "Balt" as I said is not of actual baltic origin but given to us by germans only in the 19th century.

[@user-lp6to9hb7m]

​@@markskiseВы лицимерная нация, вы создали одно государство с польшей. Польки пригласили тевтонов истреблять пруссов. Когда пруссов истребляли вы сидели тихо и молча наблюдали за истреблением пруссов. Пруссы вас литовцев прокляли на века.

[@vladpopescu9986]

All baltic peoples are the True descendents of the ancient thracians. You are the modern thracians and speak the modern thracian language, considered dead by the foolish historians who have hidden through centuries the history of this once glorious people. Achilles, Alexander the Great, Zalmoxis, the gods of Olympus, the Vedas, the sanskrit language, the achaemenid empire, the goths, all these and many more belong to the thracians and you must be extremely proud to be the descendents of this nation. And remember, you may be baltic, but most importantly you are thracians. I am not baltic so just reflect on these words.

[@shrekas2966]

You could be right or wrong. One thing is for certain, most nations had same words back then as they were indo-europeans. We are all kind of related.

[@rudolfkraffzick642]

This song is not authentic! The original has much more words.

[@Balticfolk]

It's an excerpt of the authentic song - the first of three verses :)

[@rudolfkraffzick642]

Tanks for your answer.

[@10hawell]

annoying is the subconscious nordification of Old Slavic and Old Baltic languages in songs and lowering of voices when they speak these languages - they will behave as if they can not pass these words through their throats fluently, I understand that these are not the first languages of anyone, but I have heard people who speak them fluently and SOFTLY.

[@Balticfolk]

What is your native language? The pronunciation mistakes this singer is making are precisely softening of certain consonants when they should be pronounced hard, e.g.: he says "Mīņiks Sauļīkan" instead of "Mīniks Saulīkan", etc.

[@courtier8708]

What a nonsensical comment! Please don't try to educate us on how to speak our languages. Baltic culture has more in common with the Nordic ones.