Autistic Son Touching His Sister

[@TalesHour]

Skip to 0:40 if you came from the short

[@XSV.Animate.Lab_723]

Thank u

[@Mushroomguy1628]

Oh yeahhh

[@THEULTIMATECHESSMASTER882]

At least the family was able to find a good way to keep peace but it was unfortunate that he got scared and did that

[@LLandS18]

Yeah and when he's an adult and he does it to another woman because he's never learned boundaries from his parents because his parents just separated them and excused his disgusting behavior because of his autism. This could literally be called how to raise a predator 101. I'm sorry autism is not an excuse for using another human being as a fidget toy.

[@LLandS18]

@KageYureii him having autism is non-excuse a reason or justification for him to sexually assault, his sister. And it's absolutely disgusting. You're trying to justify it by throwing words like ableism around. Just like the guy in Toronto that killed all those people with his van and tried to blame his autism. That doesn't work. In fact, autism activists and people who have autism were outraged That that was the defense he was using. So you're not speaking for them. You're speaking for yourself. And throwing ableism around is like throwing racism around. You. Just do it so you can pretend you have the moral high ground. But really, what you're doing is justifying an older child sexually assaulting a younger child and his parents allowing it. Millions of people with autism understand bodily autonomy. People with severe autism understand what bodily autonomy is.

[@LLandS18]

@KageYureii first of all, he's 10 years old. Not a toddler. Hasn't been a toddler for over 6 years. So it's disgusting. You're comparing an almost teenage boy to a toddler. Because he's closer to being a teenager than he is to being a toddler. Also you trying to justify sexual assault because he has autism is alarming. Also yes toddlers understand you're not supposed to grab someone in their crutch. My 2-year-old niece understands it. My 2-year-old goddaughter understands it. Every other child I've ever known. They understand it. Every toddler I've ever met understands that. Again. It's absolutely disgusting that you're comparing an actual toddler to a 10 year old boy. Absolutely discussing your enabling and justifying this behavior because he is autism. And if he's so dangerous to be around that, he's sexually assaulting his younger sister. Because yes, that's what grabbing somebody in the crutch is sexual assault. Then he needs to be institutionalized. Or the daughter needs to go stay with the grandparents where she can be safe. Her physical safety is more important than this, is child's need to use his sister as a human fidget toy.

[@LLandS18]

@KageYureii I just have to add that you blaming autism is the new version of well boys will be boys. It's but instead of boys it's well. He has autism and people with autism don't know. It's actually the the bigotry of low expectations. That's all it is. Your mind is so open. Your brain fell out.

[@LLandS18]

@KageYureii okay I went and found the story on Reddit. Nowhere not one time. Does he say his son is low functioning. In fact, his son can communicate. Understand directions is going to a regular school with low assistance. So if anything he's moderate to high functioning. So you can stop saying low functioning. Because that's a diagnosis you're making off of 32nd story. Because the information that the father relayed does not infer that this child is low functioning. So just get that right out of your head. Second of all, if this child is so dangerous with his autism and so low functioning that he's sexually assaulting his sister he needs to be institutionalized. Or the The sister needs to be taken out of that house. Because clearly the parents can't control it. He knows what he's doing is wrong. He just doesn't care or he's been able to use his autism as an excuse for this behavior for so long. He thinks he's going to keep working. And it's naive to think children can't be manipulative especially when they're that close to being a teenager. That girl that stabbed that young girl because she want to appease slender man is only a year older than this child. So don't say children can't be dangerous or manipulative because that's BS. And again, you are using the fact that this child has low to high functioning autism as an excuse for the fact that he's sexually assaulting his sister. That is the the bigotry of low expectations. So you can pop off about low functioning autism all you want. But that diagnosis is one that you made up in your head. Not one that OP shared. So unless you're this child's doctor with a PhD in childhood development and psychology, you need to stop making things fit. Like I said your Your mind's so open. Your brain fell out. Don't make excuses for predators just because their children. Just so you're aware. Real statistics from the RCMP and the FBI children that behaved sexually violent as children are 98% more likely to reoffend than the general population. One of the biggest indicators of future violent sexual behavior is passed behavior of crossing boundaries, especially sexually as a child. So if you're telling me this child autistic diagnosis is so bad which there's no evidence of that at all in the post that he can't control himself that he has to sexually assault his sister and he doesn't know that that's wrong. Well then he needs to be institutionalized or the sister needs to be taken out of the home and put somewhere she's safe. So you can go on with your excuses and your justifications and your nonsense all you want. But the facts boil down to that young child has the right not to be sexually assaulted in her home. Irregardless of the reason or justification you give the person who's doing it.

[@rukiakuchiki6187]

I remember hearing this one and felt so bad for Lily

[@LLandS18]

Yeah her parents failed completely to keep her safe. And they continue to keep her in danger. Running their house like a jail is not safe for anyone. It's not a welcoming, loving home environment. He needs serious psychological intervention and immediately. Not tomorrow. Not a week from now. Not a month from now. Immediately. Honestly, they should have taken him to the emergency room. And gotten help immediately. This type of predatory behavior has absolutely nothing to do with autism. Autism does not create people who do not see human beings as other human beings. He sees his little sister as a fidget toy or stress ball. But not as an individual human being. And it's alarming. His parents are reacting so little. If you go read the updates when he said die when he actually meant is right at the top of her thigh next to her vagina. He left marks on this child.

[@heizouanemo4296]

Ikr poor baby 😢

[@justforcommenting4853]

​@KageYureii if a little girl runs away from someone in fear or comes to their parent crying because someone is touching them the condition of the someone do not matter imo.

[@EJsart]

I understand he's autistic and he doesn't understand what are you doing is sexually assaulting your child and at the end of the story you finally decide to separate the children and figure out a helpful coping mechanism it shouldn't have taken you to that point where your child was stimming so badly and your daughter probably felt violated should have figured it out when she first came to you

[@raichurichi1873]

pediatrician idk @GD_Spidey

[@avril915]

Look it's hard finding a balance with autistic kids and the handled it amazingly they told their daughter that the son didn't know better and couldn't help it but they still took action against it like they should.

[@LLandS18]

​@@avril915I think people are being way too lacks on this just because he's autistic. Being autistic doesn't mean you don't understand personal boundaries. Being autistic is not an excuse justification or a reason to use another human being as a fidget toy. This literally should be called how to raise a predator 101. I hope they got him into some serious therapy.

[@DaChickin-ic7mp]

You are so judgmental first off they came to an agreement that the sister was ok with secondly why tf are you judging them for taking so long to address this issue you clearly have never dealt with autistic children he was doing it to cope when he was overstimulated and she was ok with it she did not feel violated thirdly SHES 7 HES 10 THIS IS NOT SA THIS IS THE SAME AS SIBLINGS HUGGING EACH OTHER HE IS NOT BEING PERVERTED NOR IS WHERE HE IS TOUCHING BAD THE WORST HE TOUCHED HER WAS HER LEG your an idiot

[@lordsathariel4384]

depends on the what level his autism presents secondary effects if he is low functioning he could have the mental acuity of a 4 to 10 year old and also around 50 to 90% of all autistic people suffer some form of Alexithymia meaning they cannot understand or regulate their own emotions which on average leads to anxiety depression and a very high difficulty understanding/processing empathy and understanding social relations and attachment. It sounds like he has a sensory issue and cannot grasp boundaries his parents need to find a coping mechanism and if he is high functioning he needs to be taught boundaries and social rules.@@LLandS18

[@sum1inalotoffandoms]

I dont give a shit what yall say, being autistic or having any other disorder does not excuse this which counts as sexual assault. Not michael touching lily's hair but him touching her inappropriately. Yes he has sensory issues but that doesnt excuse him touching her like that. edit: I'm sorry I'm not tryna blame the brother. I'm blaming the living shit out of the parents for enabling this.

[@sum1inalotoffandoms]

@@Fishyyy.boi123 fr [ur fine dw]

[@user-dy4rz9nu1p]

@KageYureii Then I'm extremely ableist lol. Go cry about it, because sexual assault is sexual assault. Idc if he has autism or whatever mental retardation there is - if he doesn't understand what personal space is, separate them and work on teaching him the difference between affection and harassment. And as for you, you should go educate yourself about physical boundaries. It's not like he's completely retarded, so I don't see the problem with getting him a stress toy or something else to touch/hug. I would've separated him and his sister immediately if I was the dad.

[@Georgeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

Bear in mind this is a fabricated story

[@Skincare_enthusiast_H]

My female friend use to do that and she’s les but I’m not so I was very uncomfortable.she has been told by many people to not touch me or anyone else and she still does it and I think I should just stop talking to her and no longer be her friend

[@Georgeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

@@Skincare_enthusiast_H if youre in a teenager most people do it, mostly boys though

[@silylilybily]

Love the fact that Sarah comforted her son instead of the younger daughter who had been touched sexually! Great parenting, Lily is SO gonna keep in contact with the parents when she’s older 🤦‍♀️

[@silylilybily]

@KageYureii I am autistic, I know many autistic people on top of that I know 8 year olds with autism who know to keep their hands to themselves

[@silylilybily]

@@Kirbyvr3 thank you, I am so sorry about what happened though

[@camiengstrom334]

I think that in the moment it would have been much easier and more effective to hold Michael down than to try to keep him away and comfort Lily.

[@asianhuang]

​@@_wanderer_476What sarah did was right, restraining michael is the better choice over comforting lily. Im not defending the boy because autism isn't an excuse of sexual harassment, Im defending sarah

[@vinni._.416]

Lily was traumatized,even after she restrained Micheal she should have went and comforted Lily but she decided to stay with Micheal leaving Lily behind the coach frightened

[@Rose-bm2hc]

Is it just me who feels horrible that lily was left alone while the mother tended to Michael?

[@vinni._.416]

No that was absolutely cruel ,that child was probably scared for her life and the mom just didn’t help her at all

[@Roronoa1213]

She’s too caught up in “oh my poor baby’s autistic” to realize that she has to teach him how to be human and she’s putting her daughter in danger, autism is not an excuse.

[@RivalCap]

I don't think so. I think that she was trying to protect both at the same time. She was calming Michael, to keep lily safe.

[@Rose-bm2hc]

@@Roronoa1213 exactly

[@Rose-bm2hc]

@@RivalCap of course but lily was terrified They always went to him She could’ve gone to her once

[@sachasanderson9450]

I don't think you understand that autism doesn't affect stuff like this, it only affects how sensitive you are and how independent you are, stuff like this isn't caused by autism, its a mental health issue, he should see a doctor

[@LLandS18]

Exactly the amount of people trying to justify this behavior because he's autistic is alarming. Having being autistic is not an excuse reason or justification to treat another human being like a fidget toy.

[@stephylexic181]

That's incorrect, its a social disability. I'm not saying ASD makes you a sexual pradter but like my oldest (almost 5) touches peoples boobs, there squishy and she likes it, she dose not and can not (yet) understand that there are places you can't tuch and should not tuch any one anywhere without permission. All my kids (3 kids all diagnosed) hug people when ever they want, we have to put real effort into teching them both how to say they dont want to be tuch and to not tuch others. There is a host of things that can often come with ASD including cognitive delays and inparmits. You don't know this child (writing makes me think k it's fack) but just because you are low needs and can talk for your self dose not invalidate high needs individual. It must suck to be ASD and have people think of the nadtivs and the worst case sanareo but it also sucks to be a parint of higher needs kids and have people tell me i/they are lucky to be ASD that it's a difference not a disability.

[@user-sd1qq1nl9q]

⁠@@stephylexic181I’m too lazy to read it all so I will simplify in my own way.basically he touches her as it is a way for him to calm down.

[@stephylexic181]

@@user-sd1qq1nl9q yes

[@noticeme694]

bro is a psychologist now

[@a_chicken_]

basically, the parents had a talk with the kids and Michael then understood to ask permission before touching her hair and she would often say yes, one night there's a storm and lighting strikes scaring them both and Michael squeezes her thigh and lily screams, Michael has a sensory overload and breaks down, the power is out from the storm at this point too and when everyone's calm the parebts decide to keep the 2 separated

[@daniellevin5002]

Because he is freaking sexualy assault her!

[@Kittyroachthekittyroach]

As someone with high functioning autism and an autistic older brother myself, being autistic doesn’t make you a r@p1st and is not an excuse for such vile actions

[@Roronoa1213]

Absolutely

[@ironsh4rk]

Asperguers dude here, Even as a kid i knew about not touching My sisters, i likes to poke things and make sounds as being litle, sometimes i poked My sisters on the cheeks or the ribs to anoy them...prívate parts never this kid is just weird and should have been Educated better

[@KillaZestGaming]

ayy bu game is game... nah im just kidding

[@Kittyroachthekittyroach]

@@KillaZestGaming jokes are meant to be funny and that’s actually just vile

[@ayoutubechannel6045]

This either is just someone’s creative writing project posted on reddit or it’s being overdramatised with the adjectives and expressions. It’s unnecessary, but jesus that kid needs help

[@peggyseabrun4829]

Not a writing project, had to deal with one who masturbated at any opportunity, usually by by gripping someone and squeezing themselves on to the person or furniture etc.Grabbed me once from behind and I leapt across the room in one bound. Never knew I had those reflexes.

[@sugarbeef]

@Keii_Ookami I'm fairly certain he means the writing style is dramatized, there was no mention of the kid using any adjectives. It comes off more as trying to present a short story to be published than to relay events.

[@CallidusianOrder]

Well, I have ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder (I just tend to say ASD instead of autism)) (less severe than Michael, however), and this was... well... disturbing, to say the least. Here is my take on the story: 1. I don't think the parents have told Michael about sexual assault yet and its definition. So, that is a bit worrying. 2. I understand that the permission mechanism stymied Michael's sensory needs to the point that both Lily and the parents felt the need to take no further action, but a) was Lily ignoring her own personal space and boundaries by just giving Michael permission to touch her every single time just because he was her brother? Because that's a bit worrying. b) didn't Michael's parents feel that further action was needed? Surely, they must have known that this was only a temporary solution. 3. A shame that thunder and lightning caused the temporary solution to go up in smoke because the power went out but I think that the power outage raises a question: what factors causes Michael to have a sensory overload such that he needs the sensory stimulation so badly? 4. I feel that the separation of Michael and Lily is also a temporary solution (but this point is more of a personal opinion) 5. Finally (and this may be a bit nitpicky), what type of sensory stimulation does Michael need? If he just needs non-biological or any sensory stimulation, why didn't they buy him a fidget toy in the first place? If he needed biological sensory stimulation, then why didn't they go to an ASD professional that can help them out? (This point opens Pandora's Box\a can of worms for them, quite literally, because of the potential solutions and implications it has) If anybody wishes to counter any of my points or point out anything I missed (I was looking at the general picture and not the finest details), mention me in a reply.

[@BasicEm]

They need to get him a blanket or toy of some type kids doesn’t matter if their autistic or not find comfort in things that they love get him a teddy bear or squishies sometimes kids become obsessive w/things but they should be small never take up space and not bother others if out in public❤

[@UtkarshSingh-hd5yn]

Stress balls for autistic people

[@Crystal_Jones1984]

I am autistic but I understand that no mater what kind of stimming I do, I do NOT have the right to anyone else’s body. I believe this is still SA, no matter what sensory needs, he needs to find another way.

[@nicknitro86]

They needed to get him into CBT with a specialty in autism, not have a no no talk.

[@lordsathariel4384]

i would definitely lean towards getting a professional therapist as depending on his conditions his parents could be highly unequipped emotionally and mentally to help him

[@Roronoa1213]

That shouldn’t have to be difficult 😭 poor little girl ✝️

[@Roronoa1213]

@KageYureii separating them for the physical and mental safety of both should not have been hard at all

[@daniellevin5002]

​@Keii_Ookamiyour basically saying that people with severe autism could sexualy assault someone wightout any consequences

[@Roronoa1213]

@Keii_Ookami I had a brother who was a year younger than me who had severe autism, with decently absent parents and no access to internet at the time I find myself quite knowledgeable on the subject. Not to mention a few cousins with autism, so yeah. In addition what I was saying is there wasn’t many choices to keep them safe, especially lily who is practically being ignored the whole time, separation shouldn’t have been a hard choice, it was the only one.

[@micheal5743]

I read the title, the look of horror that grew on my face.

[@katherine_queen5294]

Autism doesn’t cause people to do this. I Can see this as Michael simply finding whatever was closest with to fidget HOWEVER it should’ve stopped at the hair. The parents shouldn’t have waited until Lily broke down crying to tell Michael to stop touching her. It should’ve been put to an end the SECOND they first saw it. The parents should really do more research on what autism is and the symptoms cus if they understood that he needs to stim, they would’ve known to talk about it and help him find something else he could use. Might I suggest fidget jewelry or toys. They can have cute little designs and have things that he enjoys while also allowing him to stim. Autism is no excuse to behave that way, those parents did a disservice to Lily AND Michael. Lily should’ve been properly protected and Michael didn’t have his needs met or was disciplined properly because “hEs AuTiStIc”

[@saifullahhabid1133]

This sounds like a creative writing session then an actual situation that happened

[@saifullahhabid1133]

@KageYureii the reason why I say this is a creative writing session isnt because of the story itself but how the story is filled with useless and unnecessary details . Not saying this is unrealistic just that it was told like a creative writing story

[@lemonmeme3237]

I feel like a stress bal is agood solution because micheal can do what ever he want to the stress ball and lily will be safe but i think we will break the stress balls often

[@LLandS18]

You're very naive to think that this is the about letting stress out. This behavior is not caused by autism. Using your sister like she's a little doll or a fidget toy is not an autistic trait. And if you think a stress ball is going to correct this predatory behavior, you are mistaken. He needs serious psychological and medicated intervention. Before he gets too big and they can't stop him. And quite honestly, this behavior has progressed to a point where Lily is no longer safe in that home. He's grabbing her upper thigh. If you go read the updates or the comments he actually means he grabbed her in the crutch literally right next to her vagina. This isn't autism. This is something worse.

[@xavierasavale6567]

Are they sure he just has autism?

[@XxPickles27xX]

​@KageYureii Educate yourself on the effects of SA from a young age. Educate yourself on the fact its possible to have more than one disorder. Educate yourself on the fact yes autism is difficult at time but there are other ways of managing it.

[@mimis3266]

id like to start off that autism is NOT an excuse for sexual assault. but as someone who’s autistic and has a severely autistic cousin who pokes and prods at his (older and very much adult sister) or at least did it once or twice, the overstimulation probably forced him to go back on the progress they made, but i do hope that they taught him that it’s not ok to grope people like that and that lily is ok after all that happened to her id also like to state that my cousin knows it’s bad and his sister HAS told him off for it

[@Toasty1115]

In no way does autism make it ok to touch people, but clearly he’s distressed and learned to touch something to calm himself down, so stress balls would probably be a better solution than just separating them

[@A_lana222]

Go for those who want to now: one night the dad was working late in the office and the mom was home with the kids the kids where watching a movie when the the boy squeezed her thigh and she screamed and then the mom came in and tried to help but thunder had came and the boy was rocking back-and-forth And tears were coming out his eyes and then he started chasing the girl and the girl ran behind the couch and the mom grab the boy and started rocking him back-and-forth and whispered soothing words in his ears and then they had to separate the kids

[@stevenlennaman2073]

I am on the spectrum. My father did not let that change anything about how I was treated. He would say it was just an excuse. Autistic children will not speak or interact with people. Ashburner's Autistic spectrum should learn Autism is an excuse to put the kid on drugs. I learned to control or get my but warmed. I have the control to do 3 years in the US Army and 20 years in the US Navy. I believe my father's pain compliance did me better than drugging ever would have. When my sister's son was removed from the drugs, he Oded on drugs his girlfriend supplied because the doctors got him hooked, and when he could not hold down a job due to not having control, he had no insurance, and he had to fend for himself. My father would not let me run amuck whenever I wished.

[@HaveYouHeardOfTheMelonMan]

Heard the whole story. Basically during a thunderstorm he went into a sensory overload and started chasing his sister again, stimming like crazy. His younger sister hid behind the couch whilst their mom held the son back as he calmed from the stimming.

[@sabretoothc2591]

They should've given micheal a fidget toy 😢 it couldve been such an easy solution. Or mabye not idk im just theorizing.

[@WaffleCowStudios]

Just.. give him a fidget..? A stress ball? A squishy? Or even a Barbie doll for the hair or even the… other parts of it..? I feel like that’s an easy solution?

[@skrycix]

Bro he cant touch her Like That the poor Girl

[@user-ip9zp8ix8h]

I was about to say you needed to grow up and defend your daughter and giving Michal a talking to but then I watched the full video and his actions need punished but the separation is a good first step

[@Dazai_200]

I dont know who to side with in this situation

[@ThatOnePersonYouSeeInComments]

Bro i know a 10 year old autistic kid named michal 😭

[@jackryan7575]

They need to get a dog

[@zachbryanluvr]

relatable

[@talkytabby2878]

This is written like a short story with all the needless tiny details. Fake

[@SimianShowdowns2]

Nah if he was my kid. He going straight to the orphanage

[@daniellevin5002]

W comments

[@Ugle_ratt]

That is not okay

[@Ugle_ratt]

@Keii_Ookami would sensory therapy help with this?

[@Joaozinhoquerobacrianca]

Part 2

[@Cute_Maxi]

Ai story… gross

[@VoidsGames]

Prove it.

[@z1rqk]

@@VoidsGamestoo much adjectives and description like a story. You want to ask others not yap a whole ass novel. Futhermore its really unrealistic, micheal shouldve already gotten the belt

[@JunDiaz-pl7xc]

the answer is called a ballt

[@1-SFOD]

Do you mean belt?

[@minigundozer14]

should have thrown Michael into foster care

[@eugenkt777]

AI

[@weebobo955]

What a creepy child

[@pigepalle]

Dont get me wrong Michael should not be touching his sister, but the parents should have done something the moment he began touching his sister without her permisson. I also the level of autism he has plays a big roll to, because if has something like aspergers/low support needs, no excuse but, if its something like stage 2/3 or higher support needs, it would better explain his responses. Either way he need more mental help from professionels 🫤

[@pigepalle]

​@Keii_Ookami I do get that he is very challenged, but that should not mean that his sister have to suffer from it as much as she does. He might not mean any harm, but that dosen't mean its right. Also me saying that he needs more mental health help is not at all me saying he is evil or psyco, but that they need to find another way he can cope with his sensory overlode, or mabye him getting more help to live with his autism. I am autistic myself and my sister is also neurodivergent, and when she was in her teen years she had a lot of problems, and therefor leaving my needs to be neglected for a long time, causing me problems i still struggle with today. Its the sisters home too, and she should not feel unsafe in her own home. Also OP discripes him as good at math and being somewhat verbal, so definitly not a Comparable to a baby