Honda CB650R vs Triumph Trident 660 - When two cylinders ain't enough | Comparison | Autocar India

[@veeraraghavansafety]

As pointed out...Honda killed the bike with its pricing. Also, their bigwing showroom guys are busy selling their 350s with not even a demo bike available at my place...

[@SuperRider-RS]

HAHAHA

[@stoneroses9350]

I think it's a fair price for a 4 cylinder bike. Here in Europe it's sold at 8k euros

[@akankshapanwar4520]

And they don't even bother to explain to you about the CB650 even when you go to the showroom! All their focus is onnsmaller segment bikes now.

[@Jaslath]

@@stoneroses9350 That might be an argument to make if in most places the Z900 wasn't priced cheaper. That immediately causes a person to question why the honda is priced so high compared to it's competitors.

[@shaikthegangsta]

@@stoneroses9350 mere 6,81 ,000 rupees ....wtf

[@majoralandutchschaefer8642]

Gentleman's conversation about a gentle mid range naked sport... Love the way they represented it... A very simple and informative review..

[@Racoon-Man]

I love these kinda reviews of Autocar. These are so professional and on point. They don't joke around saying stupid stuffs or just joke around about the disadvantages of a motorcycle. Makes it feel like no motorcycle is bad and every bike has a different buyer.

[@RishaadMody1]

It's true. Almost no motorcycle is 'bad' these days.

[@yamigautam1161]

@@RishaadMody1 yep. Just suits to different buyers with different requirements.

[@nishaadjoshi1793]

*That's the better deal, this is the better motorcycle* What a beautiful line to sum it up Beautiful, no nonsense review! Keep it up guys

[@tendrious4895]

It means one is the value for money and the other one is better but on expensive side

[@ashaydatar976]

I would love to listen to sunday podcast like videos where people just talk about cars/bikes, so you guys can consider that as a weekly video series because it's the casual nature of the conversation that has got me hooked.

[@stephenjoshua]

Would be interesting

[@TheRtHonJimStiffOG]

Agree, this is a great idea

[@summerslider2487]

Agreee

[@dr.ramkaranyadav3209]

M nmlpppllll .

[@sibinbalan9616]

Brilliant idea

[@sambam007]

I agree, the cb650R does feel more substantial and has a nicer seat, revs higher. Honestly though that quick-shifter fitted on the trident is lovely and the lower down torque is so useful in every day riding commuting. I went Triumph

[@Blayzn18]

Probably one of the best reviews I've watched on the Honda CB 650R. Honest and critical without being biased. Thanks for keeping it real.

[@hiteshgujarathi4636]

I am going with cb650r. I was waiting for MT07 that torque beast but since yamaha is busy with collage kids to impress them, I would certainly go with honda because I want something which I can keep for long time, which looks good and you don't raise questions about hondas engine, reliability and service cost.

[@SuperRider-RS]

dnktune for trident will make it even torque than MT07

[@sanketjoshi7733]

Difference in being better bike but costing 2 lakh more can not be overlooked. Difference is not that much. Triumph has nailed it in this segment with this pricing. Difference is just at the extreme levels which commonly we dont experience too many times

[@rbattson7171]

I saw lots of reviews re: the trident and the cb650r, mostly vids from UK and USA. They mentioned the usable performance of these bikes and suggested the trident had what you needed where it mattered, ie lower down the rev range. I ended up with the trident, no regrets! It shoots up to 80 in no time at all, which is 10 mph above our national speed limit. And 80 mph on a naked bike is enough for me, so the Honda's higher revs are not required. It's also lighter and feels very flickable. But good concise review, it comes down to personal choice, they are both excellent bikes.

[@drx1918]

Firebreathing Inline 4 symphony 🔥🌹is just 😍

[@niranjankedambadi]

Triumph Trident looks dapper ❤️

[@SuperRider-RS]

I love my trident

[@ibrahimpallikkal5100]

@@SuperRider-RS Is that great one

[@TheJackweiser]

Since it's difficult to choose, ya know what I'd pick the 2022 Kwacker Z900. More to offer at a lesser price. That 948cc is a peach too.

[@kurushunwalla]

Z900 is too good and head and shoulders above the other two obviously. But then again we are going over price points. Every lac of rupees or so there is a bigger, better bike to be had. If only there was no such thing as a budget - that would be heaven 😊 Back on earth and reality it’s an ouch situation. Cheers

[@TheTwinPost]

@@kurushunwalla But the Z900 costs less than one of the bikes in this comparo...the CB650r....lower maintenance cost for the Honda but upfront it's pretty expensive for what it offers.

[@vinaym8853]

125 bhp 😍

[@svr4922]

@@kurushunwalla to be really honest with you, if I'm spending 8.5l on road, I don't care if I get a far better bike at 10.5. I got my r3 at 4.5 on road and I didn't even care that the int 650 or d390 were a lakh cheaper

[@its--Evander]

Suzuki gxs750

[@__7000rpm]

Hands down the best bike reviewers in India!

[@RishaadMody1]

😀

[@selflearning01]

Not only bike , car also.

[@animeshgogoi9955]

It's a nice review but I can't agree with the fact that the Honda is a better bike. The Triumph is lighter, more refined, has a better display, has better tires. Add the quick-shifter and the gear shifting is on another level (it will still cost much less than the Honda). Yes, the Honda will give you the big bike feel, but that shouldn't be a factor to buy a bike. And if those things are a factor then a first-time big bike buyer would like to be associated with a brand like Triumph rather than a Honda (even though the CB650R might feel slightly more premium than the Trident 660).

[@GearShifter925]

Those " 4 Pipes " below Honda CB engine makes it REALLY STANDS OUT from these two middle weight streets naked motorcycles. This CB 650 Looks exactly almost SAME 😲😲😳 in looks and designs of it's BIG BROTHER or SENIOR bigger cc i,e. Honda CB 1000. Triumph's motorcycle this model I LIKED and LOVE ❤ too...!!!! BUT if I had to choose one among these two Amazing looking Bikes than I would go for that NEO - RETRO one....!!!! 😊 🙏🏻

[@ishanbapat1256]

Make a BMW310R vs Duke 390 vs Dominar 400!! Love these comparison videos, useful and direct on point 💯

[@itsmeee7364]

bro dominar is good but quality is not upto ktm n bmw standard , my domi 40hp leaks oil near magnetic coil in just 15000 kms

[@arjunachar6812]

@@itsmeee7364 but it has the same engine as the duke

[@itsmeee7364]

@@arjunachar6812 it's have ktm derived engine not exact KTM quality is not same as ktm , Indian made ktm are sold in usa, uk and other countries but dominar don't

[@NalinKhurb]

@@arjunachar6812 Lower quality components that are also heavier. Hence cheaper

[@sidwithstuffs]

@@arjunachar6812 no its not the same engine

[@joseroxas5220]

I love how these guys based their review on experience. Most reviewers from my country review based on the brochure but have no clue what torque means.

[@rajg1337]

I liked the way Rishaad closed by talking about best deal and the best motorcycle, nicely done , this shows that he is showing respect to both the brands.

[@vt0037]

One of the best comparisons I've ever watched. Other automotive channels and magazines should look up to this channel to know how to do comparison videos.

[@pave_waywiz8869]

Frankly speaking Honda just makes quality and outstanding bikes,even my 2017 Honda CBR 250R still catches attention anywhere I ride it to.

[@uthams2]

Trident at 2.1 L cheaper (OTR) than the Honda is worth more and a VFM machine PS: Triumph internationally designed it for A2 license holders and hence the throttle response is dull compared to Honda and the Traction control too is very sensitive and intrusive

[@pudge9985]

Honda is much easier and cheaper to maintain.

[@SuperRider-RS]

you said it perfectly mate

[@Spacenigga69]

@@pudge9985 But as he said, not cheap enough so make up for the price difference as it has a 6 month service interval

[@maskedrider1995]

Personally I like triumph trident 🔥 in trems of build quality, power, style, comfort, display, exhaust, price, handling, features and performance.

[@oversteer_9339]

With this having high sales, no doubt they will add sport mode at some point on the triumph. I do hope so 👍

[@Basudebmoulik]

Guys what a video, can’t afford both at the moment but just loved being in the moment. That’s how people should review motorcycles. Good job team #AutocarIndia

[@abhithkdas8778]

For that price around 10L mark.........just go for Street Triple.......triple ftw

[@psychosykes3343]

exactly or a z900

[@abhijitmishra6013]

The review is like.. two friends praising their bikes🤭🤭🤭

[@kartikPanwar07]

You end up spending the same amount of money on a CB 650R as you would on a Kawasaki Z900 which is way more powerful and value for money. Then the Trident, good bike...cheaper than CB but is a lakh more expensive that Kawasaki N650 which itself is a great bike but lacks a sweet noise. The struggle is real for a first-big-bike buyer :|

[@Spacenigga69]

Also with Kawasaki 650s you get only around 65bhp

[@brendonfernandes2877]

@@Spacenigga69 The difference between 65 bhp and 80 bhp on Indian roads is not a huge difference. But I agree on the engine note. The Kawasaki just doesn't sound exciting.

[@vamshikrishna7468]

The closing dialogue was literally ♥️🙌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@v.onthemove]

Too good. Loved this video. The format, the topics, the conclusion 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

[@yashamin5848]

That triple redlining reminds me of the moto 2 bikes 🤤

[@kurushunwalla]

Thank you Rishaad and Rishabh for a wonderful review which covered all the pros and cons fairly while still being concise. Wish the Honda was priced on road Mumbai even at 8.25 to 8.5 lacs, it would be good value. Just can’t figure out Honda and their pricing across the range. Then the Z900 is around 9.5 lacs and ST R around the 10 lac mark. Ride safe guys and please continue giving us the great content you do. Cheers

[@RishaadMody1]

Glad you enjoyed it, Kurush.

[@nishaadjoshi1793]

The CB 500 X for example. What a gem of a machine. Does literally anything and everything you ask it to, linear power delivery But then Honda went on and priced it at what it did :/

[@RishaadMody1]

@@nishaadjoshi1793 Indeed. Wasted opportunity there. Its a great bike.

[@lloydz8828]

i think its made in japan so it will be pricier

[@vintagerealityvr]

Two of the cheaper mods that transform the Honda - Take the Honda, plug or remove the PAIR valve (if you can run a catless exhaust) and then get the Racetorx shift support bearing. Throttle response is even sharper, and the shifting is even more precise.

[@akkuzachariahjacob2841]

Great review ! Love the bikes.. u guys were reviewing it and the way u guys talked with eachother was nice ... Just like enthusiasts ! And moreover without compromising on the review

[@uark2452]

trident would look amazing bike chases in a movie

[@vikramkala3394]

Simply putting Absolutely smashing video and comparison One of the only few videos where u don’t tend to fast forward it Kudos to you both Keep up the good work

[@top5youwant]

What an absolute peach of the review.... Particularly we are watching Rishad from quite some time and his reviews are always fabulous

[@RishaadMody1]

Thanks! 😀

[@SuperRider-RS]

@@RishaadMody1 Good one! I agreed with all of your points.

[@RishaadMody1]

@@SuperRider-RS Thank you, Always great to hear that from an owner of the bike! I think a good remap will do wonders to that motorcycle.

[@MrYashwant1991]

I think Triumph has given us a killer motorcycle at this price point.....what else can we complain

[@johntheaccountant5594]

I have to say these Indian reviews are some of the best on KZbin.

[@SadanandaUTube]

Nice reviews. Great and gentlemen's comparison. Really I love HONDA Brand

[@abhas4]

I really love Autocar India reviews, literally i have no questions or doubts unanswered. Your reviews are really detailed and professional. Even though there any many auto reviewers out there, still I wait for a review from the channel 👍🏻

[@random_cocaine4667]

this video displays unbiased journalism & I respect them for it! (coz if it was PD or ZW they would have already made the trident king simply on the basis of price, goodjob both of you guys!

[@ManishKumar-gb8rq]

Exactly bro.. powerdrift is just promoting products to make money

[@Sheltemz]

Just got a Trident, lovely bike

[@SuperRider-RS]

congratulations! wish you long miles!

[@quacktac]

In all the foreign markets the Honda seems to be a tough sell, but in the UK it's priced so keenly, it's a proper bargain.

[@piyushsingh867]

We need this comparison in 2024

[@geetarthneo]

Love the video, two practical motorcyclist talking about two bikes, simply loved it. Great work by Rishaad and Rishabh.

[@ancientwarrior2374]

I think Honda is still worth it . The styling it offers , the acceleration (ofc you will not always initiate it from 0 every time and once you have reached 40-50 Honda has much more superior performance) , Exhaust , it's build quality and looks , detailing , reliability (Especially we all know service offered by triumph) , Running cost , etc... It will make it up , and if budget isn't concern one will definitely go with Honda .

[@zaamirrazi5367]

Great review but I have to say I don’t think showcasing them on grass was the best idea, the trident looks bigger here and the tall grass kind of takes away from the bikes

[@RishaadMody1]

Point taken, we'll keep it mind for next time!

[@saajanjogia]

Wow, Autocar used words like horrible, not happening, etc. Good to see some honest journalism in India. We need this!

[@umakantkumar7457]

In a market like India 1lakh makes up all the difference

[@kollambusvideos]

Cool review ! 11:09 lovely blue bus

[@_Sanjay_xo]

Wtf! Dude

[@harisignalseditz1610]

Ksrtc fan 💕🙌🏻

[@SD_003]

A very crisp , matured no-nonsense comparison. Great job gentlemen 👍 Could you please do this on twin cylinder bikes please? I guess that’s more accessible to mango people compared to these. Wonder when will we get cb300 back?

[@SuperRider-RS]

Finally someone talked about Triumph's creepy gearbox, across Triumph's inventory of motorcycles

[@gogi1755]

I'm definitely going to go for the trident after watching this video

[@angley476]

Absolutely Triumph Trident 🔥🔥🔥

[@paullong1472]

In Ireland the Trident is €1,000 more expensive than the Honda CB650R. The Z900 is €2,300 more expensive than the Honda.

[@jismonta8067]

triumph : 16000 km service interval. that's my offer. good deal

[@The.JZA.]

I got a great deal on a CB650R 2022 that was sitting in a showroom brand new. I will pick it up in just over a week. I cant wait!! Great video. Sub'd.

[@stanleyblazeraznik6047]

Very nice review. I miss my 4 cylinder Nighthawk and the T660 just isn’t doing it for me. Most likely selling my T660 this Spring and buying a brand new CBR650R. I was going to wait for the Honda Hawk 11 but it will never come to the US.

[@wolffury5019]

My Yamaha RX-135, 5-SPEED 's Exhaust Note was Composed by None other than TCHAIKOVSKY!

[@kasturrajgor6160]

with patrol prices above 105 here in Ahmedabad fuel cost become unjustifiable better to remain with 250/300cc category which is just about highway worthy

[@ayushpathania5500]

Rich people buying these don’t care

[@kasturrajgor6160]

@@ayushpathania5500 u r right someone must educate them that fossil fuels are not for waste behind fuel guzzling bikes our very own auto journalists should start the flare

[@brendonfernandes2877]

@@kasturrajgor6160 I ain't rich but I love riding so even if petrol prices rise to 150 ill still ride every week. I can save money in other ways but won't compromise on something that makes me happy. And when you have earned enough why not do something you love ? I love riding fuel guzzling high capacity bikes and I pay my taxes so ill ride them anyways.

[@nishantsawant1313]

Honda has increased the price tag that's where i get disappointed because in 650cc this was the only bike where people can buy affordly but now not at all honda should decrease the price tag

[@hispanosaurusrex]

Inflation is coming it'll only get higher

[@aromals840]

@@hispanosaurusrex Happy to know atleast some people know about inflation and all... As for us it will only get higher and I even doubt after some years would there even be any product under 10 rs.

[@rickyofficial9369]

My dream bike superbike But mind class 😭😭😭😭 Love you odisha kalahandi

[@shinparmar2]

Z900 comes to a on road price of 11 lakh in mumbai. The cb650r comes to 10 lakhs on road and the trident on road is 8.42 lakhs. Think this alone sums it up

[@pummyy]

Honda has gone crazy over pricing. Trident 650 is way more than adequate for India. Triumph for sure no brainer ! But then you can't overlook the Kawasaki 650 !

[@myselfyuvi]

Great video, superb analysis, no shit talks, no cheesy music.... Great job guys loved your content. Just one suggestion for next videos, whenever you guys are making a comment on a bike please refer its name instead of just saying 'this bike' & 'that bike'. Sometimes I had to really pay attention to where your fingers are pointing to know which bike you are talking about. Otherwise good job! 👍

[@brabbit2325]

Are motorcycling gods giving me signs to pull the trigger? Sheet man I was looking for 650R vs Trident some days ago and Autocar uploads!!! I wonder why none reviews the 650R here

[@theruiterras]

This was very helpful guys. Thanks for the comparison!

[@beingsolo80]

Honda CB650R any day, all day, everyday. Costs even out after the Trident's repairs and price depreciation.

[@mehaltandel7608]

You Miss one thing cb have 1 more cylinder and after changing exost it sounds is just 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩

[@SuperRider-RS]

changing exhaust in trident also gives soothing sound, both feels kinda same but CBR 1 more cylinder is nicer

[@jakubmikita6069]

Is it possible to do light touring on cb650r?

[@manthenvashishth3769]

The Honda is the most underrated bike too.

[@StanDaManReviews]

If you're upgrading, there is nothing more VFM than the Z900. That'd be the bike I choose.

[@SuperRider-RS]

agreed, Z900 is definitely a beast

[@monishartwani8418]

Hey guys, do you have the review of the recently launched Z650RS in the pipeline? It would be great to compare among the above two and the Z650RS.

[@cruze86]

Switchgear and mirrors look premium on Trident than that of honda because in hornet we get the same quality switchgear which we get in cb650r.

[@MrUrbanhopper]

Great review! It definitely helps newbies to the big bike segment, like me, to decide. Fortunately my first love was the CB series of the Honda. But Triumph came in the picture considering the low seat height (I'm 5'4") that's why this is a great video for me. Keep it up!

[@tashibhutia8353]

Can the 650 tank and seat be fitted on 300cc perfectly. Just curious.

[@mani9389]

Absolutely great video comparison with zero non-sense !!

[@brendonfernandes2877]

Great review ! But where do you get such lovely roads in Maharashtra ? I miss the beautiful roads of Gujarat and Karnataka. We have such badly built highways in Maharashtra.

[@lovetocrack3443]

Honda quality is on another level

[@vfrfandom3904]

Beautifully narrated. You can't stress enough the sophistication of the DCT in CB650R. This will add a new dimension to the riding experience

[@basundharroy89]

Rather get a hypermotard 950 paying 2L more( not an issue for folks who purchase 10L worth motorcycle) than that Honda. The Ducati is one depraved machine! A closer comparison for the Trident will be the Ducati scrambler. Not that Honda. The triumph targets a specific market that has aesthetic as a core requirement.

[@brendonfernandes2877]

These are meant for more beginner riders. Those upgrading from 250-300cc machines. A Hypermotard as the name suggests has scary levels of power and can kill you easily if you make a mistake. These two bikes have very relaxed power delivery which means they are a lot more forgiving regarding mistakes. And its not 2 l more. The old Hypermotard is expected around the 12-13l range. So on road it will be close to 16 lakhs which is about twice the price of the Trident. If you are a skilled rider and are upgrading from a 650cc class bike best to spend another 2l more over the Hypermotard and just get a proper track bike like the ZX10r .

[@veedo3452]

i own a triumph Trident and i did test drive the Honda..!!! if you are lesser than 5.8 and weight around 70-85kgs you wouldn't be able to handle the cbr it just too heavy and in indian traffic i would never buy it considering the heat, everything said Triumph is gem. Out here in canadian conditions i see a lot of new buyers choosing Triumph ,its more stable in higher speeds and the confidence you get while breaking hard is enough of a reason to just blindly buy..!!

[@Swapnil5404]

There is difference of 1.75 lac ex showroom obviously trident is value for money

[@rohangosavi3085]

Autocar: If you are thinking about buying your first multi cylinder MC you will think of this two 650 Twins: Hold my Nimbu Pani.

[@yinyangthang]

Excellent, insightful review. Thank you!

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodguy]

Honda is fooling indian consumers in name of Japanese engineer. 😑

[@RAXITH_playz]

Well as fuel prices are touching sky, i would happily stand with tvs raider!🥲😖

[@AneeshKorrde]

😀😀

[@pokerisetoken521]

I sold my cbr650 coz I can't afford it anymore. Happy with my royal Enfield

[@siamvictornamsau]

It is the time we the citizens of India need to protest against the hike of fuel prices and we need a game changer politician who care for unemployment and living BPL.

[@ankanmishra8971]

True that...and the day isn't far when Splendor n Star city would be coined superbikes, where the parameter would be mileage instead of power n performance.

[@paritsharma314]

Me too 😂

[@diptimansaha6570]

Thank you for bringing this after my comment

[@akupegu1622]

The Honda should've had radial master cylinders at that price.

[@TheRtHonJimStiffOG]

Great vid guys, would love to see you guys do more comparisons, street triple RS Vs MT09 SP perhaps? Either way, great format and great presenters

[@RishaadMody1]

Thanks James. Sadly Yamaha does not currently believe it worthwhile to sell big bikes in India.

[@nishaadjoshi1793]

@@RishaadMody1 could we please have a Street Triple vs Duke 790? I know you did bring your 790 towards the end of the Street Triple R review, but we'd LOVE a comprehensive review. It'd be great if you can make it happen!

[@jimmychhakchhuak3257]

Z900 is the better option than these two motorcycles. Currently with the Z800 but i will upgrade soon

[@SuperRider-RS]

I known some folk who sold Z900 for Trident

[@DevanshShahOrigami]

CB650R for me 👍

[@SuperRider-RS]

I agree with dull throttle, stupid throttle mapping by Triumph, and also i agree with unpredictable TC of Trident's

[@sabyasachipradhan1431]

Thanks I was waiting for this comparison

[@abymathew295]

CB650R costs nearly 12 lksh in Kerala...Thats expensive than Z900....😲😲😲😲😳😳😳😳😳😳😳🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕🤕😢😢😢😢😢😢😢☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️☹️🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠

[@ayeshaajas4633]

Still z900 is VFM

[@puravdave6528]

Triumph Trident 660 is an awesome bike.... CB650 is just too expensive.

[@SuperRider-RS]

by lac and half, yes!!

[@Navyguy]

*thanks for this comparo video. I wanted to buy one for my betterhalf. Thanks again...* ❤

[@NotPranav]

we need a middleweight naked shootout:- cb650r vs trident 660 vs mt-07 vs tuono 660 vs z650

[@yourfriendlyneighborhoodguy]

Mt 07 is not available in India

[@yiannishayabusaofficial]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! AWESOME ! ! ! ! ! !! AMAZING ! ! ! ! FANTASTIC ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !