Honest review: Mitsubishi Triton (from a Triton owner) | Auto Expert John Cadogan

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[@AutoExpertJC]

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[@WoLFSkYBLuE69]

Any turbo engine won't last nearly as long as a normal aspirated engine. Enough said!

[@nicktaylor7680]

@@WoLFSkYBLuE69 I can see what you are doing here.

[@mrsrhardy]

apple phones use LIDAR face scanning and its so fault tollerant you can grow a beard, ware glasses and hat ~ AND IT WORKS. Everyday it works, for everyone and yet these PLONKERS use tekietekie that sucks monkeys balls and ANCAP give them 5STARS for it ~ thank god, apple dont need ANCAPs petticoat assistance!

[@aussieideasman8498]

I have an idea (that's why I call myself the AIM); make a snap-on box over the monitor screen that has your picture staring straight forward and has a button battery operated LED light inside. Then you wait about three months for the next warning and have a new battery in the glovebox to fool it for another three months or so. If you patent it and it sells, send me a free one for every new car I end up buying. It won't be many, because I'm 70. Another idea is for makers to have a 3 star version on offer. When someone asks what the difference is, they can say only the eye monitor isn't fitted and it's $150 cheaper.

[@Big_Yin]

Gsr looks terrible with all that black plastic gloss trim. Who in their right mind thought this is good looking.

[@FredPilcher]

If I can't permanently disable those driver distraction systems, I'm not going to buy the car. End of discussion.

[@ev0wat]

Hilux rogue allows you to disable everything once and it permanently stays off. That was also my deciding factor.

[@longdongjohn6588]

​​@@ev0watHere's something I thought I'd never say: That's worth paying the Toyota tax for. ...until the next gen one comes out then you probably won't be able to.

[@DiHandley]

Unfortunately all vehicles are coming out with this feature. It’s law overseas… sadly!

[@julesmoto9022]

You watch it will not take an enterprising techie very long before there is a fix for that. I go back 20 years now when I bought one of the latest race replica 1000cc bikes that restricted the availability of full power in first and second gears lest idiots flip them and an enterprising fellow in the US sold an incredibly simple kit which I think just amounted to a nicely packaged 20-cent resistor for around about 30 bucks to solve the problem. Similarly I owned an MR2 that didn't allow disabling of the traction control but I figured out away around it and inserted a switch myself. Certainly not a reason for a half handy bloke not to buy the car. Ditto the stop start.

[@tomp.55]

@@julesmoto9022I would assume in the event you mod your vehicle and disable the safety features, then have a crash, insurance will have an easy reason to deny your claim

[@batmanlives6456]

This is EXACTLY why I won’t buy a new car today … I HATE NANNY state devices!!!! They are DISTRACTING!!! I DONT need help driving It’s a skill I have honed over the last 50 years!!!

[@stephenw2992]

I have to get around to snipping the seatbelt beeper in my Subaru and fitting an electronic circuit that presses the engine turn off defeat switch automatically after every start. This isnt California with its stupid laws. That Triton sounds like hell to live with.

[@larryuptain3404]

Amen!!

[@oll9223]

OK boomer

[@jamesklauzner6938]

@@stephenw2992 You can buy the seat belt inserts that plug into the OEM seat belt receptor and your seat belt plugs into the receptor. The benefit there is that as far as the pathetic nanny state system is concerned, it will always register that your seat belt is clicked in.

[@stephenw2992]

@@jamesklauzner6938 Interesting but I still want to smash that piezo beeper just to be sure.

[@crwdtb]

i bought 2023 triton and happy with it, I would never have bought it with those driver mods my personal pet hates, im sick of govt and now cars telling me they are protecting me .

[@YouShouldThink4Yourself]

Any vehicle that tells me to "Keep looking ahead" is going to get adjusted with a 10lb mashie. One of the main reasons most people FAIL their license test is "NOT enough Head Checks"

[@ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars]

Just got my motorcycle Ls, and in two days of training, it felt like I was going to tweak a tendon in my neck.

[@SoulTouchMusic93]

​@@ScottMurrayBestFamilyCarsI've got a scratch from the seatbelt when I got my truck licence because I was checking soo much.

[@coweatsman]

The cars in Cuba have none of these complaints. Low tech is consumer friendly. High tech is big tech abuser friendly and abuser enabler.

[@Cardinal7477]

All these settings/assists can be turned off. They are simply there to achieve a 5 star ANCAP rating.

[@danewass18]

​@@Cardinal7477 but turn back on again everytime you start the car. They cannot be turned off permanently. That's the argument here

[@Myrtlecrack]

"HAL, quit telling me how to drive." "Sorry Dave, I can't do that."

[@1969cmp]

😅😂 😎

[@MrLunithy]

lol👍

[@pwrrpw319]

LOL!!!!

[@markheap3427]

I bought a new Pajero Sport in 2018…only to find that every time I started the engine I could not access the infotainment system until the ‘AGREE’ button was pressed. After doing this many times every day, often after the car was underway (unnecessary distraction), I wrote to Mitsubishi asking for it to be turned off. No go. After 3 or 4 heated replies I told them that this would be my last Mitsubishi (after 6 Pajeros). They didn’t care. Eventually I found a mechanic who could kill it after 5 seconds each time.

[@bradgray123]

It just needed a software update. So simple but Mitsubishi techs are less than simple.

[@maifantasia3650]

In Thailand, the Mitsubishi dealership also said they were unable to disable that feature. To their credit, they did give me the name and address of a place that could do it. Was all "fixed." The guy can also set up the notifications so that they can be turned off and on, when I want to, and not reset to default each time the vehicle is restarted. I just have to remember to have it all reset to "factory standard" before I trade for the new model, in a year or two.

[@TheSpoovy]

If you take that "zero tolerance" attitude you'll never buy a new car again

[@AlphGen]

So was it a Mitsubishi thing or an ADR requirement to have it setup a specific way?

[@RBZENKI]

The "agree" button is so vehicle transmission data can be sent to a third party "privacy" (Lexisnexis) server. That data is then sold to insurance companies. The more you know.

[@supercededman]

I ordered a Manscaped bundle. $50 off, thanks John. Why is it that as we (men and bearded ladies) get older, we lose hair on top, but instead have strands long enough to plait growing out of our nostrils and ears? To add insult to injury, I've now got eyebrows long and wiry enough to clean a barbeque with. A topic for a future video, I think.

[@alexsiega9651]

Would you recommend as an all round groomer? Would it be good for the noggin as well?

[@hairy-dairyman]

We have 2 2018 tritons. Mines set up for a farm ute, manual, bullbar, chunkytires and tool tray. My wifes is an I want a 4x4 but mostly driven to town and back. Auto, highway tires tub and hard cover, and a nudge bar Mine threw a uni one month in, but other than that, they have been good utes. 450000km on my wifes and 300000km on mine

[@Low760]

So you literally have a ute when she should have an SUV? Cool. You're part of the problem.

[@gerryloveday3142]

​@@Low760what problem is that?

[@Sparkadian]

450k that’s awesome, how long did the stock injectors last?

[@Sparkadian]

450k that’s awesome, how long did the stock injectors last?

[@SauronsEye]

Have you put an extra zero on those speedo numbers by accident? I only ask because if there's no typing error. Your Wife has driven the equivalent of to the Moon, in a vehicle named after a moon and is now on her way back. But keeping it terrestrial, bring it back to Earth. Your Wife is driving, on average over 200klm every day of the week for the last 6 years. Assuming an average speed of 100km, that's around 3 hours a day behind the wheel, every day for the last 6 years or the last 2,190 days. That's 6570 hours sitting in the driver's seat over 6 years or the equivalent of working an 8 hour day, weekends and 4 weeks annual leave off every year, over 3.5 years and nothing has gone wrong with her car?. I have a 2014 Lancer which has just done 108,000 and just the other day I heard some squeaking from the rear suspension and it's only ever driven on bitumen roads.

[@mahcooharper9577]

No flashy crap, but still the best review of the new Triton I've seen. And yes, screw those "assistance" systems... I couldn't live with that either.

[@Cardinal7477]

Lucky they can all be turned off.

[@mahcooharper9577]

@@Cardinal7477 got to do it every bloody time tho, it's stupid.

[@Cardinal7477]

@@mahcooharper9577 Takes me less than 30 seconds. Doesn't really bother me tbh.

[@mahcooharper9577]

@@Cardinal7477 fair enuf. Would still annoy the crap out of me if I had to do that every time I got in the car. As long as you're happy that's ok. But it's still stupid because we all pay for this crap to be developed and installed in the car and then best case scenario we turn it off anyway.

[@Cardinal7477]

@@mahcooharper9577 I agree. It's proved to me, with all new cars these days, that I don't care about a 5 star ANCAP rating. That rating should, in my opinion, tell me how about its going to be for me and my passengers in the event of a crash, not about where my eyes are looking etc. This is all just tech being drip fed along the road to fully automated driving. The reality of automated driving, is that it can never be 100% safe with human drivers sharing the road. Only in an environment with 100% automated cars can it be safe and effective. We seem to be marching full steam ahead toward that future unfortunately.

[@themancuniancandidate2744]

I've had four Tritons in a row as company vehicles; a 2015, a 2018, a 2021, and just got the last of the pre-facelift 2024s. They have all averaged around 40000kms a year, none of them have ever had so much as a blown fuse or bulb; utterly reliable. My only minor gripe is that the touchscreen infotainment sometimes glitches out or freezes. But other than that they have all been bulletproof. But the electronic nanny bongs and chimes are par for the course on almost any new vehicle. One of the many reasons i bought a used MX5 as my weekender is the almost total lack of them. It’s the last of the analogue cars.

[@Rooler694]

Tritons where bang value for money and there 4wd systems were very good near the hilux but without the hilux pricing. Will be interesting to see how the new gsr compares , only thing stopping me is that front bar and all of the driver assistance systems . I wish you can option those computer gizmo's out of the spec when building.

[@roland-if4zx]

40,000 IS JUST RUN IN . REPORT BACK AT 500,000

[@themancuniancandidate2744]

@@roland-if4zx 40k per year. Read carefully.

[@roland-if4zx]

@@themancuniancandidate2744 I read 40,000 . /???????is how many miles at change over /disposal. that,s important.

[@themancuniancandidate2744]

@@roland-if4zx I wrote that I did 40000kms per year, about 25000 miles.

[@steveallen1340]

6 marriages and you still own a house? That’s a very impressive effort. Well played Sir.

[@gjm456]

and wheels too

[@davidnobular9220]

He takes them for a ride in these new vehicles with the incessant beeping and alerts.....Next thing we know, it'll be No. 7. Why, it only seemed like yesterday when he was talking about No. 5......

[@coweatsman]

One marriage is forgivable. Two marriages is understandable. Three marriages means a slow learner in one lesson of life, that marriage sucks, and so do children. That's why I avoided both.

[@iffracem]

@@coweatsman or.. he's got "pre nuptial agreements" nailed.

[@DerykRobosson]

When one or both parties to the relationship doesn't agree to the terms and conditions in writing beforehand, there's likely to be a problem down the road.

[@Andiness.]

That start/stop shit and driver monitoring system is an absolute deal breaker on any vehicle. 'Someone should take amcap to court for crimes against intelligence, either that or having their heads stuck up their arses', personal opinion. That said, if there's a system that can just simply monitor if your eyes are closing and you're falling asleep, I think that's great. And I've driven a car with stop/start and It counted the fuel savings in millilitres. On a full tank you'd be lucky to save between 200ml to 400 ml. All though was a small car, the cost of of maintaining the stop/start system in terms of batteries and maintenance would exceed not just the fuel saving but the environmental impact of having to replace items related to it.

[@TheSpoovy]

Subaru's system monitors if your eyes are closed. Also monitors whether you're facing forwards or not as well unfortunately.

[@wilson2455]

​@@TheSpoovy there's more cameras in/on the new Subaru's than at a footy game. Totally absurd.

[@Cardinal7477]

Agreed, I turn all that shit off. The ANCAP safety rating now seems to be more about features than actual safety. Does it have selt belts? Does it have air bags? Will I die in a regular speed crash? That's all I care about with safety features. Reverse camera? Cool. Cross traffic alert? Cool. All in all, I should be looking carefully anyway.

[@wilson2455]

@@Cardinal7477 it's not that you can disable all these BS features, it's that they default back to ON or ENABLED every time you start the car..

[@Cardinal7477]

@@wilson2455 would I prefer to have them off by default? Yes. Does it ruin my day turning them off? No.

[@stuartwood7252]

D Max, She Max. These days, it's probably safer to go with They Max, and not presume what the Mazda identifies as.

[@jamesrebbechi5247]

In that Soul Red Crystal party dress colour - TransMax most likely.

[@davidnobular9220]

Nice one !! I laughed so much, I rolled in my own wee !!

[@stevelamb6720]

Having seen what happened to the BT-50 owned by my son-in-law after it drove through a puddle of water and insurance had to write the whole vehicle off. I wouldn't go anywhere near a Mazda.Imagine they went through a shallow river crossing, a bit of water splashed up over the engine and totaled the entire computer. And the insurance company rode off the entire vehicle, 50 grand down the toilet. Mazda I couldn't fix it either.

[@Rooler694]

Overrated dmax and bt 50. Looks at any 4wd comparisons they fail basic testing.

[@kevinbarry71]

Thanks a lot for putting those images in my head. You should visit Texas, people buy heavy duty grade trucks just to be able to take the weight of the family

[@davidnobular9220]

Don't forget that little known sport of Rolling Coal....

[@97I30T]

😂😂 that’s so true. Buying a 3/4 ton or 1 ton pickup in Texas is practically a right of passage. It might as well be a requirement to be a Texan.

[@davidsutherland4280]

I have bought the new Triton and I agree about the annoyance of those ‘aids’. However I have now got myself conditioned to the point, that similar to the routine of putting on my seatbelt, I immediately turn the ASG off and the driver monitoring system off. It took a little while but now it is practically automatic on entering the vehicle.

[@wyattfamily8997]

The real point is there SHOULD be an ability to turn them off PERMANENTLY or opt to NOT have them in the vehicle at all.

[@possumtrapper]

same here, less than 7 seconds without needing to look at the dash to disable them both.

[@julianpalmer4674]

John, sounds like the internal camera needs a 'thumb print' on the lens 🤣

[@adamgardner3364]

Subaru has entered the chat.

[@julesmoto9022]

Maybe set a tiny doll sitting on Blu-Tack right in front of it

[@bluddyrowdy8757]

@@julesmoto9022 Hahahah, Brilliant !

[@iffracem]

@@julesmoto9022 or a photo of your first born? Just don't use a picture of Barnaby Joyce.. the monitoring device might call Alcoholics Anonymous

[@stevelamb6720]

You could put a picture of our PM in front of it, then it would know for certain that you're not paying attention to anything at all.

[@jerrymyahzcat]

Auto Stop/Start is at all not about saving fuel. It’s about reducing emissions in urban areas when stopped for prolonged periods in traffic or at lights etc. And it does its job very well in that regard. I do totally agree that the implementation needs to be on point however. Decent systems can restart on the fly even when in the process of shutting off (without having to first complete the shutoff to enable the restart). Mine can do that and it’s never ever been a problem when it tries to shut down as a press the throttle - it’s just immediately restarts and I’m moving once the accelerator is depressed (it activates as you lift off the brakes, before you’ve even fully lifted off). I have even used it when towing and it’s ok. I turn it off when off-roading typically though. Lastly - the systems reverting back after a restart isn’t due to the manufacturer telling you that’s how it has to be (well it is) but it’s because of legalisation, often in Europe, mandating it. The manufacturer is required to implement it if they want to sell vehicles in those jurisdictions. So - blame governments not manufacturers. And yes ANCAP Crap.

[@batmanlives6456]

Basically wearing out batteries and starters unnecessarily…

[@jerrymyahzcat]

@@batmanlives6456 absolutely not. The starters are engineered to withstand this treatment and should outlive the useful life of the vehicle. Also no issue with batteries. That’s all the false information.

[@batmanlives6456]

@@jerrymyahzcatyeah …..

[@pauljensen7106]

Bought the new 2024 Triton in Thailand before it hit the market in Australia. Owned Wildtrak previously. Love the Triton. Had it for 4 months and is a pleasure to drive.

[@exvictorian3605]

All the more reason to hang onto my 96 Land Cruiser

[@johanneswehrmann]

And me to my Jimny. Old school just rocks! 🤘🏻

[@buster_1972]

And to my 04 Pajero

[@Iwishiwasflying]

The legend returns with more goodness

[@gbsailing9436]

Great review John, I'd love the opportunity to both, drive and own one. However, if I may speak to your point #10, I'd like to add my own thoughts. I too have driven numerous vehicles over the years (both in a professional capacity as a police man), and other professional driver roles. I have driven number of vehicles with the driver monitoring systems in place. Having a forensic background, a number of points occur to me and annoy me about these systems - even though they have some positive benefits. The systems unfortunately place the warning lights and messages buried deep down in the dash between the tachometer and the speedo with fonts that are often too small and difficult to read, unless you look down specifically to read the message that it's giving you. I've noticed that some systems are alerted by just looking down to check petrol and oil temp which sets these damn warnings off!!! So this goes immediately to your point of having to take your eyes off the road at a crucial time when you need to be paying attention TO THE ROAD! This situation is mindbogglingly stupid and ludicrous. Of even more concern, beyond this dangerous situation - which is clearly the worst aspect of it all - is an even more galling and upsetting in the most extremely worrying terms is the idea that, in the not too distant future these alarms and warnings will be recorded to a database in the car's computer as part of the normal journey log that is recorded for posterity (and most likely sent back to HQ of the requisite brand). Moreover, with the progress of 'tech' we are experiencing these days, in the event of a fatal accident the accident investigation team (ie. the police) will be able to download this data and warnings, and ultimately decide that the driver, who may normally 'not have been considered' at fault, will now 'be' considered at fault because the data from the computer will show that the driver took their eyes off the road and was NOT paying attention. Hence, fines and criminal charges will be laid. Insurance claims will be adversely affected because these systems are recording misinformation milliseconds prior to accidents occurring. In court the driver will have no defence as the data will show your actions. Even worse, in the not to distant future, these systems will move from the now infra-red style to photographic (video) style and courts will SEE the evidence for themselves that drivers have taken their eyes off the road at the time of the accident - mostly likely because of the damn warning they are seeking to acknowledge! This is a very slippery slope we are heading down now. Or am I just to paranoid!?

[@theairstig9164]

LexisNexis already exists. You are about 10 years late

[@gbsailing9436]

@@theairstig9164 LexisNexis??? what is that?

[@krisherrick9126]

Awesome report as always, please don't ever change!

[@malcolmirving9485]

I thought it looked ugly until I saw what the KIA Tasman looks like.

[@hughsavage2136]

Two things that will stop me buying any car are start stop technology and driver surveillance camera technology. I.E. Big Brother IA that second guesses my driving decisions. I like the new Triton but knowing it has both these intrusive and destracting systems I will not be considering one for my upcoming Ute replacement. Thanks for warning us!

[@trevorhorton8472]

Lovely presentation and very helpful. It looks like the driver monitoring system is as much use to drivers as Klaus Schawb is.

[@LEVIAHAN]

WOW!. This video came at the best time possible for me. I saw in other reviews that Driver attention Monitor could be turned off. I didn`t realize it`s only restored after every engine start. I was about to call my Dealership that I was ready to make a deal for the Triton. I will not now!. Thank you soooo much John. Because for me, that system is a deal breaker!!!!!

[@tosgem]

Regarding auto stop and restart, I had a car with 180,000km on the odo and the ECU said in the cars lifetime it had spent 50 hours in the stopped state. So let's say the car burns 2 litres per hour at idle, that's 100 litres of fuel. At today's prices of around $2 a litre, that's $200 saved. For all of the expense of the bigger battery, the bigger starter motor, the inconvenience of using it in the real world, it had saved me and the previous owner a total of $200 in fuel! Before we take into account how much cheaper fuel used to be in the early 2010's when this vehicle was new, which would make it even less! This feature is complete overkill, solution disproportionate to the problem

[@peterhepburn6518]

Start stop is just about the manufacturer claiming huge co2 reductions so that they can meet emissions by adding together all the small amounts from all the cars. The reason you can’t turn it permanently off is because then they couldn’t claim the saving.

[@conmanumber1]

Start stop is very hard on starter motors.

[@peterhepburn6518]

@@conmanumber1 they don’t use traditional old style starters, some are starter alternators that uses the alternator as a starter to turn the belt and therefore the engine. I don’t like start stop but it doesn’t wear anything out faster these days.

[@crazyharry1586]

My next vehicle is going to be one that does not have all the "Driver Aids" It may not be as safe or comfortable to drive as a new one but at least I won't have all that 'assistance' that other people think I need. Cheers Mark

[@nunchuckfilms]

I found an old Lada NIva on FB marketplace today.... really had me checking the bank balance( not for the car, for the repairs if I get it)

[@crazyharry1586]

@@nunchuckfilms I wanted one of those when they were first released here, then I saw all the break downs lol. If you could find a little 1.6l diesel engine to transplant into it that could be worth it :)

[@nunchuckfilms]

@@crazyharry1586 3k Toyota Corolla engine( or even 7k from tow ace) Not a fan of diesel me.

[@Plyushch22]

John Cadogan can frighten a Triton

[@stevelamb6720]

If everyone who is considering buying it gave feedback to them that they won't buy it, if those features can't be turned off permanently, I think they would have to reconsider their position and say, here's the five star for the fleet buyer and here's the not five star for the intelligent driver who actually pays the bill.

[@markusdammasch9108]

As a mechanic, I can say that the ONLY advantage of the stop- start systems is that you'll get a fault code that comes up when the battery is a bit on the weak side - so you'll get a warning well before that battery actually let's you down.

[@TheBigRed.]

There is no advantage full stop to the stop start system. 🤔

[@Rooler694]

The advantage is the manufacturer gets to charge you money for it lol. You get no advantages even when using it as a fuel saver your approximately saving like $10 in fuel over the month . It's laughable

[@iffracem]

I just want a simple vehicle, that gets me from A to B reasonably comfortably. Just the basics, no bells and whistles and gadgets that I don't want, or need, and just add expense and more points of failure. I don't even use cruise control. No touch screens, no bluetooth telephone calls (although bluetooth music from fone is OK), especially no ability for the manufacturer to trace my personal habits. All those IMEI tracking traffic lights and CCTV are already more than enough. You just can't buy a basic, no frills vehicle any more... even the "base" model is over endowed with gadgetry. No choice. What would be wrong with a really basic model that people could add on the bits they want, as and when needed? Besides, any new car is risking having some bonehead use it for some "touch parking" when next outside the bottle shop... or Supermarket.

[@adamrutledge9349]

mahindra pik up is your car

[@ozmaen]

Great review John. I'm a MV owner. There is a quick menu option to disable the camera quickly and a press of a button to disable the stop/start. Most of us just go through this process everytime it starts. Not ideal I know but fingers crossed Mitsubishi provide an upgrade to make the camera less sensitive and someone comes.up with a stop/start by-pass like the one for the Ranger. I pros still outweigh the cons for this car. I love driving mine after updating from the MQ

[@stevelamb6720]

I would want a hack to completely disable those bullshit features otherwise I simply won't buy the product.

[@codygifford1864]

Mitsi has just released a patch to change the Driver monitoring system to 10 secondsish not 1 second. Your Mitsi dealer can update the system

[@KlausVillaca]

The amount of safety gizmos today is overwhelming. Does anyone has a fact based statistics saying that it’s a must? Because if a driver doesn’t pay attention he/she will hit something or someone, and in this case that person shouldn’t be driving. If the driver doesn’t look forward, it’s like a person crossing the street and not watching for some vehicle coming. We have to stop with this mentality of treat adults like babies. This is not helping.

[@pablorages1241]

Doesn't John usually suggest not buying new models until OTHER PEOPLE have ironed out the bugs?

[@billynomates920]

i thought that was scotty

[@randysuratte663]

I'm guna start a business just so you can do my ads. Top notch

[@axelknutt5065]

You couldn’t afford him … 😁

[@davidsutherland4280]

BTW, for those of you that don't know if once you come to a stop, you immediately apply the park brake, the ASG does not activate.

[@timmyireland1]

Through numerous videos, John has convinced me that Mitsubishi's Super Select 2 is the system I want. And it helps that Tritons are significantly less expensive than Ford And Toyota

[@TheJeff4X4]

The trick is to wedge a small bit of paper in to hold the "Off" button permanently in, so each time you start the vehicle the "Feature" gets turned OFF!

[@longdongjohn6588]

For the stop-start, sure. But there's no off button for the Driver attention Monitor, you have to faff around in the dash menus to switch it off, each ignition cycle.

[@IngloriousGlueBombs]

The thing is though you shouldn't need to. We all have the right to privacy and to NOT be monitored without our consent. I wouldn't even buy a vehicle that has an internal monitoring system let alone come up with a 'workaround'. I'm getting a bit sick of having to 'opt out' of things rather than 'opt in'.

[@alanwood6882]

As an individual, non corporate buyer, I've stopped buying any car infested with techno_shite. I only encounter them with. Hire or govy cars. Which is a relatively brief experience

[@rjbiker66]

You should be able to get a replacement button that remembers its setting when you switched off.

[@davidnobular9220]

@@IngloriousGlueBombs I've got a V6 Luxury Accord for sale that might suit you......... The best Nanny State feature is it will warn you when you start to drive with the handbrake on......

[@longdongjohn6588]

If you want a new Triton, there's still plenty of previous gen Tritons on dealer lots, it'll be a much better and significantly cheaper prospect without the ridiculous nannies and stop start. As a 2022 Pajero Sport owner, I won't be looking to upgrade until Mitsubishi or one of their competitors learn to value customer's interests and driving experience over ANCRAP. I've still got 8 years of warranty left, I can wait. 😎

[@richardtimms6645]

Did you miss the 70% of the review where he says the new model is so much better than the old model. You'd be crazy to own a MR over a MV

[@longdongjohn6588]

​@@richardtimms6645 I've been watching the review, and yes, there are improvements. Especially low-end torque, interior layout and shoulder room (and a volume knob! 🙌). But the nannies, especially the driver distraction monitor, is a deal-breaker. As Mitsubishi isn't coming to the table at this stage to allow it to remember my settings between ignition cycles, any permanent off for the nannies or the stop start will likely require an aftermarket reflash or OBDII dongle, so that puts your warranty at risk. And then there's the real question: Why would I want to pay extra for a new model, then go out and pay again to have someone take the nannies that I never wanted or asked for and have them disabled or set to default off, when the model without them is, for now, sitting right there on the lot not even run-in? Also, having sat in one, if even I could disable it permanently, that camera sticking out the steering column obstructs part of the dashboard from my view, and I couldn't adjust the wheel to a point where either the camera or the top of the wheel doesn't block part of the dashboard. Less annoying then a cacophony of bongs, bings and orange messages, yes, but still annoying.

[@davidnobular9220]

@@longdongjohn6588 I suspect that in the near future, these feature will be legislatively mandated and it will be a crime to disable them.

[@seamusobrien2675]

You are right, 2022 Mazda 3, so much good about that car, but all the annoying assistants just left me pissed off. Sold 2023. Now Drive E-series Mercedes 2000, vast Interior, 8.2 liters per hundred, before me one owner 52,000 km on the clock, practically silent on the road. I have fallen in love at last.

[@DJ99777]

My Forester watches me too. It’s useless though like you if I look left or right at a giveaway sign it says watch the road but if I start texting or close my eyes nothing.

[@wilson2455]

new Subaru's have more cameras than at a footy game. Totally absurd.

[@garageblitztv3215]

Thank goodness someone is calling this stuff out.

[@y0uCantHandle]

Totally agree on the warning chime. I took one for a test drive. Within 5 minutes it pinged me, I asked the dealer if it could be turned off at all… he said no it’s a safety feature. So I pulled over, Hopped out and said take me back, that’s a deal breaker.

[@Cardinal7477]

A button turns off start/stop, and all the alerts/assists can be turned off in the menu. Takes about 5 presses of menu buttons and I have driver alert, driver fatigue, lane change assist, and brake assist all turned off.

[@Wdeane1957]

@@Cardinal7477 You need a check list like an airline pilot has before you go on your way.

[@Cardinal7477]

@@Wdeane1957 Takes me less then 30 seconds to disable these settings. A don't really like starting up and immediately driving without some heat in the engine anyway. Guess that makes me an ACE pilot?

[@maxlodewyk_na]

Solid and honest review not focused on "drum brakes" and "front design". I hope Mitsubishi implements a better DMS to ensure safety instead of driver distraction.

[@MrAidenaiden71]

Had mine for 4 weeks and love it

[@stewartcash555]

The type of bloke to buy the new Triton, would be the type interested in using that product you where flogging at the start

[@terrysmith7740]

6 marriages , thats a lot of Honeymoon time.

[@simmogj]

Or a real slow learner

[@wyattfamily8997]

You mean "test runs" surely.

[@mongolike513]

They have achieved a bit of an F100 bonnet! I have a 2014 triton and it is not ‘tactically’ high off the ground or aggressive it is just a perfect vehicle, manual , and it has taken us with no complaints around Australia, west, east , north and south very satisfactorily. Now they have adopted the Brute look, copying ford and trying to copy the wasteful metal of Rams, Chevs, hummers, Abrams etc. Luckily my model triton is polite and basic. My other car is a Haval h6 which is a revelation of comfort and luxury (to me) which is similarly overcomplicated but all the “help” can be turned off, so far. Love them both.

[@conmanumber1]

Havel being Chinese I highly recommend you to replace all oils to Amsoil when you can or if available in your country. It will really improve and lengthen long term reliability and cut running costs down.

[@petermills1402]

Just purchased a new round town runabout Mazda CX3 with stop start tech which I felt is fukcin dangerously laggy. KZbin to the rescue, it seems there is an override switch on opening the bonnet to stop the car accidently restarting and impaling service persons against nearest brick wall. Simply unscrew the bonnet stop switch, turn it slightly so istop system thinks bonnet is open and istop is inactivated without the annoying warning light on dash.

[@craigo7235]

you have let the cat out of the bag!

[@wilson2455]

John, have you tried getting some plonker from ANCAP onto your channel & asking him/her how all these supposed Driver Assist Warnings (DAW) benefit the driver? Where is the hard evidence that it works re: accident mitigation? As mentioned, depending on the state, you can get pinged $1000 & 3-5 demerit points for a quick glance at your phone, but no mention re: all those annoying, distracting dings/chimes/flashing warnings, etc. that immediately take your eyes off the road.

[@denism5008]

Hi John, great video, mate. Very honest. You are very correct in your assessment of the "driver monitoring system". It can be very frustrating at times to say the least. While driving my mate's car (Haval Jolion), it drove me insane. However, one small black piece of electrical tape over the camera completely fixes the problem, and it absolutely disables all the warnings. ⚠️ Give it a try in a Triton. It may work...

[@jerrymyahzcat]

The Jolion is the worst new car ever. I drove a rental one for 3 weeks. It’s a prick. It can’t even maintain cruise control on country roads - jams on the brakes at every slight bend in the road before accelerating again. But on a 4 lane motorway is just fine. Also if you indicate to take a motorway exit, halfway through the manoeuvre it would try to force you back on the motorway. I turned off many of the features. I’m surprised the tape worked. I’d expect a beeping and a warning “camera obstructed”. I just turned the camera off.

[@andrewb8548]

The State of New York couldn't decide whether ball joints were part of the steering or suspension when they wrote the law on annual inspection...so the steering section specifically exempts ball joints from the steering inspection, and the suspension section specifically exempts ball joints from the suspension inspection.

[@roddoel1028]

Thankyou John for a truthful & factual run down of the actual reality of what is going on. I didn't get to see & hear from my Boys for five years even though I had weekend custody, There was no violence involved but I was smeared with it . I am forever grateful to my Mum and a few close Friends that I survived . Don't let the silence & separation & slander win we need to support our Men & families. They are the absolute pillar of any society .One of your best posts John and your interview with David McBride.

[@overland_adventure_nz]

Hi John, do you know that a number of manufacturers with Stop/Start feature on the vehicles is quite often deactivated when it’s towing a trailer. It should be simple engineering/wiring to make up a dummy plug to plug-in for the vehicle to think that it’s towing a trailer and deactivate the stop start feature permanently . Cannot believe that someone has not made them, but I know it’s possible with my electronics background but not necessary with my land cruiser 78 . By the way, the video camera that keeps an eye of your alertness a friend who drives big trucks gets annoyed with this feature too because he takes his eyes away from the to look at the mirrors and the warnings keep going off every time he looks in the side mirrors to check when he’s turning directions, etc and they turn it off

[@rjbiker66]

Stop/start should restart engine when you turn steering wheel.

[@t28mcd]

It's this type of shit that will keep me driving my 2014 C63 forever.

[@justicebroker2271]

They bloody upped the price a fair bit. I wouldn’t otherwise think that is out of the norm, but NZ equivalent models are a fair bit cheaper than in the land of the Ute.

[@sugarnads]

The last model went from 34k in 2020 to nearly 50k in 2023.

[@andrevanderwalt2515]

​@@sugarnadsand then from $50k to $60k in a year...

[@lunsmann]

What makes the driver stalking systems worse is - Insurance companies WILL get hold of the data and DENY a claim because the system records say you were distracted.

[@dn059]

Hey John. The Navara isn't independent rear suspension, it's solid axle. It is however coil not leaf FYI 😉

[@brianstevenson9967]

Do you mean to say he doesn’t know what he is talking about, that my friend has been apparently obvious for quite some time.

[@dn059]

Not at all. I agree with pretty much everything he says. He just made a mistake and I couldn't help but let him know

[@rjbiker66]

I think Nissan calls it a multi-link system. Lol

[@markwright196]

maybe a vibrating seat instead of silly light for minor alerts would be the better option and likely not be overly unpleasant in its repetition.

[@dylanwebb9584]

Naughty, naughty boy!!

[@CalinDee]

Not a ute, but the same basic platform, I bought the missus a Pajero Sport for exactly the reasons stated as making the Triton an impelling package. Spec per $ it crapped all over the competition. A top spec Exceed, which is what I grabbed, needed me to look at a Toyo Sahara to get CLOSE to the same options, but still didnt have them all. Its 4WD system is far better than I have any intention of ever needing and it drives wonderfully on tarmac, track and sand - with all the creature comforts you will ever need, while safely taking my partner to/from her office in the CBD every day in leather heated seat luxury. Cant go wrong! Its now 4 yrs old, and there is nothing else that looks like its going to warrent trading across to - Ill simply be trading to a newer version of same at this point in time. ..and yeah, the nanny devices, even on the now 4 yr old version were no less annoying - even without a stalking camera! SOOOO many beeps. Its worse than a paranoid mother-in-law next to ya! Sitting stopped at the lights - with NOBODY moving - yup, better get excited and beep about the person to the right front quarter (that hasnt moved and is still the same 1.5 meters away!). Worse though is the 'let me help you with that' automatic braking!! A car pulling to the leftahead of you into a slip lane? No drama, slide fractionally right and continue - nope! Better set off all the alarms, vibrate the pedals and apply the brakes so you dont die!! Stop causing an accident you ass-hat of a car lol. It has tried the same when picking a gap in traffic, get half way to where you want to go and it obliquely sees an oncoming car and hits the brakes to help you out... yeah, not helpful, but thanks anyway! Turn that shite off!

[@markward2824]

Worst 3 things to have happened in modern automotive technology - Stop start tech - Lane keep assist - Driver monitoring (including speed alerts) 🤦‍♂️

[@darrenjordan841]

How many ex-Mrs Cadogans can you fit in a Triton ?

[@OzzieKev]

Not enough to frighten it.

[@Discoworx]

How fat are they? Probably fatter than Tiffany from the office.

[@davidnobular9220]

Less than the number it takes to change a light bulb ??

[@markmcculloch2570]

Lots. Can also put in a trailer behind the truck.

[@leemollison7508]

All of them if you use the tray as well...

[@neilforbes1082]

100% agree John these driving aids are infuriating and occasionally dangerous.

[@MegaRich7]

Driver monitoring, auto stop/start, no wireless Android, 2 factory faults with the last 2 Triton models I owned. Nothing will frighten a Triton but all this shit will frighten the owner. No thanks.

[@craighardey3751]

I have a 23 model, I thought about holding off for the 24, my initial thought was a 2nd turbo is something else to go wrong and what it could also do to a pretty reliable motor and drivetrain. Hearing about the auto start and driver attention, I am happier about my decision!

[@Luceq]

I reckon the 3,5 towing capacity is useful in some scenarios, like driving a boat from home to a ramp.

[@SoulTouchMusic93]

It's always useful. Especially if you go caravaneering.

[@Luceq]

@@SoulTouchMusic93John’s point is that you shouldn’t tow 3,5 tons with a midsize Ute in the motorways.

[@iandickinson342]

@@SoulTouchMusic93 Put 3.5 tonnes behind it and you,d be a bloody idiot!!!

[@OldFellaDave]

I also love my MR GSR Triton, awesome bloody car. I was keen on seeing the new one as a possible upgrade in another year or two ... but not now. I think I'll wait till the next one or the midlife upgrade in a few years ... maybe they will ditch these half arsed 'stalking' issues and crappy engine on/off bollocks. Cheers JC!

[@ronaldov09]

15K left in your bank account? Most will finance so for most, it will be $70 a week in your bank account...and the difference in the amount paid will be similar when its time to sell? I guess if you're paying cash up front, you're going to keep it for 10 years and its not a tax write-off, it makes more sense.

[@craftee11884]

This guy should test drive all new cars so honest and spot on cutting through marketing BS

[@cze33e]

The most important question is how easy is it to mount maxtrax and the awning?

[@exvictorian3605]

Thank you JC

[@paulmartinic7552]

Great review JC as usual. Thanks for touching on the surviellance issue we have to endure with on many new vehicles. We shouldn't have to keep a roll of electrical tape in our door pockets to mask this invasive BS. This could be a whole episode in itself. Love your work mate.

[@johnb5410]

Here in the UK all new cars sold from July 2024 will not be able to exceed the posted speed limit. Yes, seriously. No doubt the big government types down under have a similar scheme in mind. Things are getting more draconian by the day.

[@sghworldwide]

That so called safety camera creates inattention, inattention is a main cause of car crashes. And who wants the engine restart lag when you want/need to run the gauntlet, every split second counts when driving in traffic. Hopefully the Japanese engineers understand your review (the Aussie lingo) Great review John 👏 👌 👍

[@vincebagusauskas278]

Stop start hack: insert a dummy plug into the tow bar connector. At least works for Subaru's. Facial warning hack: tape over the camera. If it like the Subies, it will beep a few times and then stop.

[@camrsr5463]

wow! so many good points. great video. the car should send you a text when it cant see your face. lol These over active safety features are particularly frustrating and distracting for our older citizens. If you love your parents and grandparents, then you need to teach them how to use these features.....or DEMAND that the manufacturer or seller shows them how to use this crap.

[@Serge1074]

Excellent review and information John, really appreciate it very much, thanks mate.

[@billytoohey8887]

Neck? What neck?

[@robertharvey3469]

Great point man! I would respect ANCAP if they gave the car a 4star rating based on practical application of the safety feature; I’m sure that Mitsubishi would have their engineers fix that “driver paying attention system” (whatever it’s called) quick smart. Great feedback for Mitsubishi, well done.

[@Steven_Rowe]

So they monitor your eye to see your looking forward but thrn keep providing screens that will put imax theatres to shame and controls where you actually need to look at them to use them. The heater air con unit once had 3 totary knobs, a slide control for fresh air and a push button for ac. Now if i want the demister on i have to stop so i can operate the the buttons

[@pablorages1241]

I wish the Triton had a bigger motor

[@tonysambar]

Your Labor overlords don't want you to have a bigger engine.

[@pablorages1241]

@@tonysambar .. and they want more tax :(

[@Nka893]

You could take the old 3litre diesel from the ML triton and twin turbo charge and tune that engine but that's a lot of extra work

[@landrover1155]

​@Nka893 emissions and efficiency just isn't there for that motor. It was great for when it was built but it is so much less efficient than the 2.4 in every way. Cheers

[@kevinskivvyOz]

JOHN you've been ignoring me I thought we were friends!!! What's with the stupid Needle Sweep Mitsubishi it's not a fanboy Golf gti

[@mikestokell3130]

Thank you for the excellent review John. I was on the cusp of sending a buy request to Auto Expert but looks like it’s back to the drawing board. I don’t have the patience to persevere with the distracting Distraction System nor turn off the Stop Start every time I start the vehicle.

[@JB-mf5do]

I got a gls on order, I’m turning the radio up.

[@user-wj5qu6bl6g]

What a shame, who thinks that a distraction computer is required to take the drivers attention from the road for safety? A bus company I use to work for retro fitted a similar device to their entire Sydney fleet and I couldn't concentrate so I left the company.

[@carlsnieders7237]

oh Jonny the boy, you've done it again, an easy work around, 1)stick a little photo of you on the steering column in front of the camera - that'll fool it, 2)stick a piece of string across the button for engine stop start override connected to the brake pedal lever, that way every application of the brake will be asking it to not turn off the engine.

[@lukeclemo3659]

Thanks John, one of your best.

[@nathanoneale1106]

Nothing can frighten a triton, except for a caravan

[@robertastk]

I'm 33 now and I thought I just reached "old man angry at cloud" stage. But it seems that I'm not alone. Reason I bought proper diagnostics tool was to turn start-stop off, lane keep assist. This face monitoring system would drive me insane also. I hate this useless tech with passion. There are systems that are good or mostly good, systems that are neutral and these who make you bat shit crazy. Good - I feel like auto braking/city braking, especially when there are more and more distractions driving. Neutral - like blind spot monitoring, although probably 4-5 years ago John made a video about correct mirror angles and I've been showing this for people to this day, but BSM isn't annoying most of the time. And then there goes this shit like start-stop, etc.

[@ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars]

I've been doing the same thing about mirrors for years, as a result of the same video. It's like seeing the Matrix code for the first time. I'm constantly adjusting every mirror in every car I get into.

[@longdongjohn6588]

The real difference here is between tech that augments your senses (like BSM and reverse cameras) and tech that second guesses you while driving (AEB, Lane Keep, Driver Attention Monitor, etc). The former is genuinely useful, the latter...🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@DnosSFS]

Got my New Zealand 2024 Triton 4WD GLX (base model) 11 days ago. Just got it to 840km today Stop and start is shit. The requirements for it to even activate are weird. Manual says the car has to be up to temp and outside air at a certain temp for it work. I've found that some work mornings light frost 2-4 C outside it starts working within 5 minutes of starting the car. Yet at the end of the work day outside is around 14-18 C it doesn't work my whole drive home. As said in this video, trying to take a gap in traffic is terrible when it shuts the car down, either loose the gap or cut someone off. Sometimes taking foot off the brake it doesn't restart, have to pump the break again On dash display says I've used the function for 19 minutes and saved 165ml of diesel...wow I turn the function off everytime I get in the truck now, If i travel to Auckland I may use it in traffic there. Not in my small city Driver monitor. This video doesn't go deep enough into how bad it is. My commute is 35 minutes at 5 am. So it's dark out, every 20 or so seconds it pings at me. Either saying it can't see me or that I look tired. Honestly by the time I get to work I've heard hundreds of the ping alert. I turn it off every time I get in the truck now. During the day it isn't THAT bad, still annoying though. At night, it is absolutely terrible In saying all that. I love this truck. Took it for some light to medium off roading today it took the tracks amazingly well. Feel like it would do the hard stuff just as easily. On the open road, takes corners shockingly well, effortless power. Super select 4WD is awesome! the added traction in the wet or through road works is reason enough to get a Triton Often find myself looking at my speed and I'm over 140km/h like oh shit I'm speeding without realizing it. Should point out. I upgraded from a 2003 Triton, so I am taking a HUGE jump in technology and comfort. People with newer vehicles may not find the 24 Triton much of an improvement as I do. But I'd still recommend the new Triton even with the couple annoying things that have to be turned off everytime. For what you get at the price point, I don't see a reason to go for a Hilux or Ranger besides "fitting in with the cool kids"

[@LEVIAHAN]

Bro... thoroughly enjoyed this post. You should start your own channel m8!

[@TikTokTommy]

I'm starting to really appreciate the simplicity of my 2021 79s series

[@jamesfrench7299]

Just after watching this an ad for the Triton was on television showing one of the driver's aids beeping like an old school video game and followed by the voice over touting it's 5 star ANCAP rating. I was one of the wised up viewers.

[@petertimp5416]

I’ve just ordered a ‘Fortuner’, I didn’t like any other vehicles I tested. Novated lease.

[@iancurtis1152]

With this camera checking you out, imagine driving through the Galston Gorge or Old Bathurst Rd with the tight hair pin turns, you have to just about do a 120* head rotate to check oncoming traffic in these tight turns.

[@dylanwebb9584]

It'll be easy to identify those vehicles with surveillance technology fitted. Just look over the edge of the road. They're the ones down the embankment.

[@StuWNZ]

Great video thanks. I'm looking forward to getting a second hand one in a coupole of years.

[@jameswitty283]

Cancelled my new triton order because of this driver monitoring bs. Thanks for saving me an annoying beep beep beeping John. Great vids.