Will this 7-seater EV conquer Europe? BYD Tang REVIEW

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This is our in-depth review of the updated BYD Tang. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
00:00 BYD Tang vs Tesla?
00:30 Length, wheels, suspension
01:24 Battery kWh and recharging
02:42 Interior quality
03:33 Seating and comfort
04:53 Cockpit and infotainment
08:20 Interesting detail
08:34 Rear seats
10:08 3rd seating row
11:33 Trunk / boot
13:03 Frunk?
13:39 Acceleration Autobahn
16:00 Comfort and insulation
17:05 Suspension and driving modes
18:40 Assistance systems
20:14 City driving
21:24 Price and EU tariffs?
23:12 Economy and real-world range
Data & facts:
BYD Tang (EV 7-seater)
Shown color: mountain grey
4,97 m 196“ length
21“ wheels
Adaptive dampers
Interior only animal skin
12,3” instruments
15,6“ screen
517 hp AWD 4,9 s
When normal driving rather FWD
Rear electric motor is slightly stronger
VMax 190 km/h 118 mph
109 kWh gross LFP battery
11 kW AC 170 kW DC peak, 30 Min 30-80 %
Heat pump standard, V2L
In China, also a PHEV is sold and pure ICE was sold
1,5 t towing
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[@Wonka0998]

I've had mine for a couple of months by now here in Costa Rica and I love it. I might be biased because it really was the car of my dreams, but now that I've used it so much, I'm in love with it. I had a feeling it wouldn't do good in the Autobahn, but I mean the highest speed you can legally go in my country is 100kmh in some very short highway sections, so I don't really have to worry about it. You can't go 120kmh for more than 5 minutes or you'll crash into a mountain. The rest of the roads are terrible, and I do feel a big big difference between the Sport and Comfort suspension modes.

[@komibrightecuador9133]

Yo tengo el mío en Ecuador hace 6 meses. Es una delicia de auto. Esperemos que con el mantenimiento adecuado no de problema a largo plazo

[@junglebeam1]

Thinking about getting one in Costa as well…curious how it does on lastre with such a low ground clearance.

[@Wonka0998]

@@junglebeam1 it's not that low. 18cm is good enough. If only you knew the places I went through with my previous Hyundai Grand i10 😂

[@LL-rm8xt]

Best reviewer ever, totally impartial and fair

[@Ian_Woods]

without doubt the best car reviewer on youtube

[@autogefuehl]

thanks so much my friend !

[@Wh1teDream]

Indeed, this vehicle is set for a big overhaul by the end of this year or early next year. The EV version will employ motors with exceptionally high rotational speeds, coupled with higher voltage batteries and more efficient thermal management systems, all aimed at enhancing top speed and extending driving range. The PHEV variant, on the other hand, will utilize an upgraded version of the hybrid technology first seen in the Qin L model, achieving remarkable range capabilities. Both versions will feature distinct dedicated chassis, and in conjunction with BYD's recent advancements, they promise a significantly enhanced driving experience.

[@cez8017]

Piano-black. Fingerprints, reflections, scraches and dust. On what universe do people find it good?

[@levelazn]

its an EV. it's good engineering, has blade battery. Piano blacks are just a trim that can be customized.

[@Vahndamme]

the piano black hurts my eyes hahahhaha also with the brown seats.. I don't get it.. Chinese cars are so obvious in their design and I don't think I've heard anyone say "wow what an interior design" .. like I was at Brussels motor show and it had the BYD Han , from the outside it looked nice but inside everybody was like yikes... outside it had a nice deep green color and the DRLs are nice.. but inside... aaaaaa

[@yongchenlu6356]

@@Vahndamme Imagine 90%of our taxi are BYD cars, and with driver's poor driving skill(hard accelerate--hard brake--hard accelerete ),It's nightmare taking a taxi. Every time I take a taxi:😵‍💫🥴🤢🤮😵💀

[@Vahndamme]

@@yongchenlu6356 ooof that's a nightmare.. here it are all high class Mercedes diesels or hybrids.. and many Ubers driving like Toyota RAV4 hybrids, etc.. I can imagine an unexperienced EV driver driving one pedal drive 😅 it's a nightmare.. my friend drove my car once and he really didn't understand the one pedal drive yet.. and having a dual motor with insane acceleration figure.. yeah.. nightmare haha

[@TD1237]

@@levelazn True. As you said, it's well engineered.

[@fabiobernardes974]

Excellent review as usual! Congratulations

[@dragospahontu]

I saw a lot of Russian reviews of Chinese cars and it is obvious that they don't respect the high standards pf traditional manufacturers.

[@autogefuehl]

Data & facts: BYD Tang (EV 7-seater) Shown color: mountain grey 4,97 m 196“ length 21“ wheels Adaptive dampers Interior only animal skin 12,3” instruments 15,6“ screen 517 hp AWD 4,9 s When normal driving rather FWD Rear electric motor is slightly stronger VMax 190 km/h 118 mph 109 kWh gross LFP battery 11 kW AC 170 kW DC peak, 30 Min 30-80 % Heat pump standard, V2L In China, also a PHEV is sold and pure ICE was sold 1,5 t towing Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.

[@larsvaneynde4281]

I think the rotating screen is ingenious! My Volvo's 9" portrait screen is okay for navigation but it's terrible for any entertainment while e.g. charging the car. I mean KZbin is bigger on most smartphones than on the center screen. I want this in my next car so I hope other manufacturers take an example and stop being so conservative and boring. I prefer a European car over a Chinese car but they really have to step it up if they want to keep competing.

[@TerbrugZondolop]

Styling is always subjective, however the materials are on a level that VW can only dream off yet people complain and moan. Go buy a plastic Tiguan for 60k then.

[@omenz878]

Say that you have never seen tiguan in real life without saying it. The only difference I could spot with a tiguan material wise is the soft top part on the rear doors interior and absence of the carpeting in the pockets in the doors in BYD. Tiguan starts at 32k.

[@TerbrugZondolop]

@@omenz878 starting at 32k. Have you seen what it looks like at that price? Worse than Dacia. Stop talking shit.

[@user-xp5id1kh4r]

@@TerbrugZondolop You were the one that specifically said a "plastic" Tiguan costs "60k"... he was responding to you saying the "plastic" version of the Tiguan costs "32k".

[@omenz878]

@@TerbrugZondolop you can buy a Tiguan with ventilated power leather seats with massage function starting from 36k eur. You should take a look at Dacia one more time.

[@TerbrugZondolop]

@@user-xp5id1kh4r Go buy it.

[@ziven07]

The next generation of Tang will be released at the end of the year, with more stunning shapes, I believe you will not miss❤❤

[@Vitamin-bh9kg]

without discounts it will cost about 70K USD🤣

[@robertowen6499]

I really like the way that you conduct your reviews Thomas.Never been a fan of the shape of S.U.V.s But this one has some pleasant lines. An E.V. does not satisfy my life style either, however I enjoyed your informative and fair review - I always learn something from you.Thanks, Bob.

[@syzh1274]

这是上一代的老唐EV了，在售的唐为荣耀版用的是中国结尾灯，并在内外做了些许升级改进，下一代搭载DM5的唐再过几个月就要来了

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[@TL-xw6fh]

Do we need to add another 38% to the price soon?

[@RuiChambel]

So, Chinese tax payers are subsidising car companies for the Europeans to have cheaper cars... And the EU is complaining about it? Has anyone asked the EU consumers if they prefer to pay for more expensive cars? Also, the EU tax payers subsidise lots of European companies, to make them more competitive. Why wouldn't the Chinese or any other country do the same?

[@cez8017]

Backseats don't look comfortable. Such a low seating position!

[@PaulMeier-cu3ds]

This interesting, so thank you. From what you show BYD are not quite there no matter the price. But I bet they are going to get there before long.

[@ArturoBandiniWannabe]

Great review Thomas! But, checkout the right edge of the microfiber below the dashboard - at 07:51. It seems like extremely poor finish / quality....

[@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj]

Id happily take the softer suspension over high speed stability over 110 mph. Like people are judging this car because of that but the benefit is ride comfort. The stability was also better at motorway speeds around 60mph aswell, on a car like this, I think BYD made a good choice for choosing ride comfort and soft suspension over a firmer setup just to fulfil the needs of the small amount of people who use the autobahn or motoring journalists who prefer sports-car feel. Great video!

[@dragospahontu]

You can have both soft and stable. This is just shit.

[@yissibiiyte]

​@@dragospahontuyou can have both in theory, it's just that very few cars do. The vast majority of "luxury" cars out there have sports suspension with zero comfort. BYD having suspension that's actually comfortable is definitely unique

[@dragospahontu]

@@yissibiiyte i mean for sure but even something like a Toyota Highlander is super soft but is still safe at top speed o 180km/h.

[@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj]

@@dragospahontu It is likely to be safe, but so is the byd😭…. The BYD has a lower centre of gravity than the highlander and also has a wider tread than the highlander so is likely to be more stable than the highlander at higher speed

[@dragospahontu]

@@Adamlllllllllllljjjljljjjjj never on planet earth. Any Toyota is safer while driving and definitely in the event of a crash. Just look at the moose test results and euroncap or the American standard.

[@Ianmundo]

for a new EV the styling is quite dated, it looks a lot like a Kia Sorento

[@floxshuilee1760]

Old car, just new to Europe. on sale now for 25K USD in China now.

[@ianpolo5673]

Tang is actually an older model of BYD. It just being given facelift to freshen the front and rear and also the dashboard.

[@georgethepanda6545]

As a Chinese person, I also agree with this comment. The design of BYD is a bit old-fashioned, and it might appeal to more conservative middle-aged Chinese men. However, younger people like me might prefer the designs of Nio and Zeekr.

[@beewh001]

If that's dated then all Tesla interior are out of date :D

[@Gladiatorking7]

Telsa's designs are the ugliest and people still buy them.

[@1981zayn]

Thank you Thomas, with the upcoming tariffs the chances for this vehicle arriving in Europe or US is very unlikely 😢

[@remix-yy1hs]

Watch inside china business. American analysts in China. The best update on everything important.

[@stevenbarrett7648]

Its a definite winner

[@3von3]

Hello Thomas. Why didn't you go to the Bugatti Tourbillon presentation? 😢😢😢

[@Cloxxki]

1.655 liter cargo space, for such a long and tall car? A Golf Variant or Skoda Octavia is much shorter, lower and more spaceous in that respect? Model S as well of course and Model Y hugely more. or, are mesurements taken differently?

[@rashaxxl1]

Nice seats, not like the new Mercedes seats.

[@devrishichooramun]

I just sent your video to my friend here in Mauritius whose surname is in fact TANG! Whoa he'll drive a car badged in his Name!

[@markuc]

Tang is part of BYD's dynasty series EVs. Tang is one of China major dynasties renowned for open mindedness and multiculturalism. Look it up 😊

[@kanskje6]

Thomas-blue underwear. Well done!

[@toyotaprius79]

Chinese Automakers better realise quickly that people want affordable EVs and PHEVs, chasing the highly profitable SUV and executive vehicle class is an oversaturated market and a sign for eventual economic crash.

[@naitud]

BYD makes soo many models, only a fraction is currently available globally. They make really cheap but still quality smaller vehicles like sedans and hatches.

[@erikisbaum]

Say no to communism

[@Kevin-kd6hf]

affordable EVs are intentionally blocked by tariffs in EU and US.

[@Harrythehun]

Only Chinese manufacturers? Aren't we hoping that the EU manufacturers will build and sell low cost and high value models?

[@Jeff.55649]

No one wants pure Chinese EVs, sorry!

[@chiao2408]

Tang EV is developed based on the combustion and hybrid platform rather than the specific EV platform but it sells cheap in China. So I think the rich Europeans don't need this too much.

[@horuscheng3476]

The design of the BYD Tang EV is outdated in the Chinese market, and its sales volume has proven this point. When it comes to mid-size SUVs in China, people immediately think of the Li Auto L8, L9, or AITO M7, M9. With the addition of tariffs, I can't think of any reasons for people to buy it in Europe.

[@Vahndamme]

7-seater in Europe? errr.... Not in Belgium , that's for sure.

[@jtamm4021]

I don’t get the point to pay premium price for chinese SUV with bad resale value, new EU tariff for chinese EVs will be last nail in the coffin

[@sammaimas155]

The sideways shaking of the camera mount is a bit disconcerting and makes it feel as if the car has a vibration happening...

[@marioperrini4356]

Hello Thomas thanks for the video but ,,,,,, I prefer German cars 😉💪

[@geolykos]

This is even smaller than my 2020 Kodiaq.

[@baltazarkosa29]

this model also comes in a PHEV version, which might be even more interesting for you considering, IMHO

[@LORK3301raw]

Looks like the wireless charger is also cooled 👌

[@kinhung]

what if BYD not cheaper than others? will you consider only with low price ?

[@autogefuehl]

Without low price they wont have a chance

[@Vahndamme]

a brand enterring a new market (for them) and such a well established one as in Europe.. no way they can snoop away marketshare without lower price tags.. even if the product is equal or slightly better, people don't know it and won't go for it unless they get out proper media out that points this out .. but nothing is as easy as : "good car, lower price tag" , this is the strongest point you can make to get people to buy your product in a new market..

[@Twin.motors]

Not a chance

[@MrAigarValb]

There are still some very cool cars in China. For example Huawei Aito M7 or M5, Lixiang 6 or 7 or 9, Zeekr 001 or 007 ...

[@hermesliteratus882]

Yes, the list goes on and on.

[@TL-xw6fh]

The difference between the Chinese subsidies and the European ones is that the subsidies are applied on production, whereas in Europe it is on sales, irregardless of where the cars are manufactured. So the Chinese and the Europeans who build their cars in China (like Audi, Tesla, Volvo and Polestar) get the subsidies twice! That is why the Germans are up in arms about the EU tarriffs. I support what EU is doing, BTW so that we get a level playing field.

[@dzonikg]

So not true,like FIAT here in Serbia got 600 milion euro subside to build FIAT Panda EV. Mercedes got bilions off dollars from Hungary to build EVs there

[@TL-xw6fh]

@@dzonikg Not strictly correct. China provides such subsidies for building the factories and R&D to the car manufactuers too. In addition, there are subsidies for EVERY car manufactured in China (not sales in China), hence all exports from China (including Tesla, Audi, Volvo, Polestar, Mini) qualify for the subsidies. That is the reason why the German car manufacturers are so worried as they will be badly impacted by the tarriffs. Essentially, producing the cars in China will qualify for double subsidies, hence the EU is correct in applying the tarriffs. The EU is demanding that China, at a minimum stops subsidising the exports to Europe.

[@dzonikg]

@@TL-xw6fh LIke i sad China many many times less subside then EU ,Cars in China are 2 times cheaper in China then in EU ,simple EU is EXPENSIVE ,i visited China not long ago ,i found in store Coca COla Zero can for 6 CENTS ,ITs not China fault that everything in EU is just ridiculously expensive ,west does that to boost its GDP number becase GDP is just sum off all spendings,the more expensive stuff is the bigger GDP number.But you have a trade off that you are not longer comptitive on world market ,most off world is not crazy to give 100000 euro for BMW 5 series

[@michaeljiang960]

The current Tang is an old car due to be refreshed completely very soon. Not a good timing for the review.

[@bnhasen]

Please show us LUCID ❤

[@tadasnever]

Can you already get Lucid in Europe?

[@Carfan678]

@@tadasnever Yes

[@richardstar88]

The better the Chinese car they do the higher tax are coming soon. Undoubtedly amazing car and best review 🎉

turn signal = skype incoming call :D

[@recres20]

nice

[@umpire003]

Agreed, old design copy of Kia sorento

[@alexshoneya]

EU better to cooperate with China. If China raise taxes back for EU and US car makers, it will bancrupt many of them. VW sales 40% of its cars in China. What will happen to VW if they loose that sales?

[@rmkkkk]

About LFP, BYD's cars are slow charging, but Tesla has same BYD battery in model Y and it charges fast

[@autogefuehl]

Ya thats strange I heard about that but why

[@rmkkkk]

@@autogefuehlIt's done to preserve battery more, for warranty. That's how they offer longer warranty 😂

[@dzonikg]

Fast charging will hurt battery ,and Tesla only fast charge in first few years then in became slower and slower ,my friend has model S 2019 and it allready charge almost 1/2 off speed when it was new

[@rmkkkk]

@@dzonikgyoure talking about different battery pack, that also was limited in charging speed because of CCS adapter. For example modem 3 2019 charges same speed as 2019

[@st_us]

Germany added up to 40% taxes on Chinese EV cars. I hope the price won't shoot up because of this.

[@canislupus5819]

Not all car will be taxed with 40% it's German car manufacturers have to pay 40% import tarif, BYD actually is the winner they will be taced around 16%

[@autogefuehl]

Nothing is fixed yet. To be decided early July

[@ensteffo]

Prices will go up so once the EU feel the economic impact of retaliatory policies and reality setts in, in about in 3-4 years maybe some adjustments could be implemented. But higher prices for all cars, domestic and imported is the outcome for now.

[@dzonikg]

@@canislupus5819 That tax is add to allready 10% tax so 10%+38%=48%

[@user-br8ny2it9t]

Ehm... germany was against such taxes... but EU (some expect cause of france and italy) did. But on the other hand, the Chinese should not use such high subsidies. Its not only Europe.. Turkey, US and others.

[@MrKilekico]

All of you can say what you want but this is a good car. Stop saying that Tesla has better plastic, indicators, cameras... This company's orientation is to replace VW as a people's car. Zeekr is already above European companies. China has so many EV manufacturers you can't imagine. In China, Tesla is a joke car. We need to push harder and make at least the same lvl quality as China and of course the price is crucial. Who's gonna buy a BMW for 70k EUR when they can get something similar for 40k EUR.

[@ak19910716]

Wow those two rear seats... This is not a 7-seater, you can't even get in, let alone sit in the back.

[@SuperMario1111]

What happened to Lia ..?

[@_TheMainMan]

Looks like a really very good alternative or replacement for the "compact 7-seaters" like BMW Series 2 Tourer and Opel Meriva. Maybe not as roomy as those medium sized 7 seaters like Touran, Caddy, Berlingo or Kangoo but sure looks nicer and less like a bus.

[@jcpayyau2803]

So brave of you to test it with top speed. 🤣 You could be the first ever... Not sure if "they" have tested like that with autobahn speed. (No autobahn there) 😅 lol😬

[@autogefuehl]

Probably yeah 😄

[@jcpayyau2803]

@@autogefuehl haha, yeah, absolutely not needing to risk. Even without the top speed autobahn, your channel is good enough or better than most. (Autogefuehl and ThrottleHouse are my favourite channels.) Drive safe✌

[@autogefuehl]

Thanks 🙏

[@ferrariforever1]

I really want this facelifted BYD to do well in Europe, but compared to the Kia EV9, this Tang is: Too inefficient (108 kwh and less than 500 km range) Too heavy (2705 kg, heavier than the larger EV9) Too expensive (70k euro in Europe) Not spacious enough despite its size (4,87m) BYD should come with a dedicated 7 sitter EV. This facelifted Tang is just not good enough. The pre facelift version has already reduced it's price from 70k to 50k and still not selling well

[@u2beuser]

Do you really know how much EV9 costs in Europe to say this BYD's too expensive? 🙂

[@ferrariforever1]

​@@u2beuserYes, I know the EV9 prices in Europe because I'm considering getting one. The Launch Edition EV9 RDW is about 70k euro. The Tang is priced too high compared to EV9 in Europe.

[@u2beuser]

@@ferrariforever1 This price is a consequence of pressure from the European Union and high duties. Many in Europe are afraid of the rise of Chinese car brands and and there are serious reasons for this.

[@alexshoneya]

Tang EV is 34k in China

[@ferrariforever1]

​@@alexshoneyaEvery EV is (much) cheaper in China. We are talking about prices in Europe.

[@MrPetermc199]

Uninspired

[@zemeosa]

The design or styling is really beautiful better than what most european manufacturers offer.

[@bananarepublic8951]

For all these guys who review high tech, better quality Chinese EVs it always sour grapes because of cheap build TESLA

[@remcos8180]

10:32 There you (he) go(es)! 😋

[@don-ricodasilva5205]

EU...we don't want our people to have cheaper priced cars

[@TerbrugZondolop]

Exactly crooks

[@vasisimari92058]

Stop this conspiracy nonsense. Budget brands such as Dacia have existed in Europe for the last 2 decades with significant success. The Chinese failed because they make crappy cars.

[@notagain2856]

​@@vasisimari92058There is no other budget oriented brand aside from Dacia. Even Seat, the budget brand in VW group is now creeping upwards in prices

[@mostafaoraby007]

​@vasisimari92058 you are living in the past my friend

[@Twin.motors]

​@@vasisimari92058Dacia EVs are Chinese imported

[@bikeomatic8005]

Lets bring them import tarriffs baby !

[@Sartheris]

I definitely did not feel safe watching the vehicle wobble at high speeds

[@x3merx3mer]

Don't wait for the pricing in this video, there is none...not even an approximate one.

[@scaleartsg]

i find that chinese evs lack the driving dynamics found in german cars.

[@sha22276]

Most German cars are 1.4tsi and 2.0tsi, 320d and E220d models, none of them are in anyway particularly interesting compared to the Chinese cars at least in my view. I understand if every German car was a M4 competition then I would agree

[@dzonikg]

As one who has 2 BMWs driving dynamic is good but ride in cities is just very bad ,you feel every bump very hard,its not pleasant at all to drive in city with out perfect assphalt (basicly 99% off cities) when i go back to my much older reanult senic 2 2003 it feels like second world,you dont feel bumps almost at all

[@alphabeta4028]

We slaughtered a million cows, and somehow worry about using animal skins 😂

[@autogefuehl]

Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment. You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWLEf42bpMano6c). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable. A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6G1f56NbtOlqNk And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKe7loOHnsSAd80 New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2qXiouAbJeIiqM More and more natural materials are rising: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIO2pIt7o9x7etE Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIHCdKmCocZ5oqs For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpzNdHSjppaSbqc Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. Also a group of researchers and German journalists from public media could recent directly trace the connection between car animal leather production and illegal burning down Amazon rain forest: www.daserste.de/information/reportage-dokumentation/ard-story/videos/illegales-leder-video-100.html In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? Remember that animal skin leather is no different to fur, fur is just leather where the hair is still on. And fur is widely not accepted for clothing anymore, and of course not for cars. We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future. For a great insight into sustainability in the automotive industry, you can also check out our extensive documentary: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2nKf4uih6yhnaM

[@ufoolme]

Wow, I love how much I learn on this channel. I’ve been lucky enough to look for new cars a couple of time in the last 5-10 years, and the level of detail and care - beyond any other media.

[@autogefuehl]

Highly appreciated my friend!

[@Nexus6Variant]

Basically a compromised old base platform with poor handling and naff knock-off interior. I love how you’re always so polite about a crappy car so you get invited back……gotta keep those reviews coming.🎉🎉🎉

[@levelazn]

nah its a good car

[@TD1237]

Lol, this car steaI your gf or something?

[@S7tronic]

Point well made and taken, however I am sure most of us are well aware of the impact of the leather industry, and also for that matter the auto industry as it stands. Frankly, I find the way you use 'animal skin' instead of leather quite patronising. I'm here for car reviews, not a moral lecture.

[@ws-jw1tv]

👍

[@TD1237]

It's not so much for us. More for manufacturers to reconsider. Like how some car reviewers will spent minutes crrying because an exhaust pipe isn't real, for example. It's to indicate that the company should reconsider their direction.

[@autogefuehl]

Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment. You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWLEf42bpMano6c). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable. A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6G1f56NbtOlqNk And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKe7loOHnsSAd80 New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2qXiouAbJeIiqM More and more natural materials are rising: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIO2pIt7o9x7etE Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIHCdKmCocZ5oqs For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpzNdHSjppaSbqc Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. Also a group of researchers and German journalists from public media could recent directly trace the connection between car animal leather production and illegal burning down Amazon rain forest: www.daserste.de/information/reportage-dokumentation/ard-story/videos/illegales-leder-video-100.html In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? Remember that animal skin leather is no different to fur, fur is just leather where the hair is still on. And fur is widely not accepted for clothing anymore, and of course not for cars. We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future. For a great insight into sustainability in the automotive industry, you can also check out our extensive documentary: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2nKf4uih6yhnaM

[@kamezu]

European car makers need to step up their car design game.

[@toyotaprius79]

They're too busy profiting off ICE and SUVs before the economic crash

[@AWMJoeyjoejoe]

If Lexus and Genesis failed to conquer the European market what chance does BYD have?

[@alexshoneya]

@@AWMJoeyjoejoe They are both massively overpriced

[@76prayag]

Tang you but no tang you.

[@levelazn]

hahaha. nah

[@pwelele]

It's an old 2020 car Why are you reviewing it in 2024? 😂 Cars evolves very quickly especially those made from China, it makes no sense to buy this today, it's like buying a Samsung S20.... 😅

[@liwyatan]

China gives subsidies to all manufacturers regards of the technology. We put tariffs on the EVs but not on the mild hybrids an ICE (which are the cheaper ones). So, China, will dominate the European market anyway. It's hard to find the logic in the Brussels decisions...

[@sunsetlights100]

In the details as always EU...i drive corolla hybrid nice car 60~70mpg nz

[@AWMJoeyjoejoe]

I'll be amazed if china dominates anything. Lexus and genesis have both failed to dominate Europe despite offering higher quality products. There is no evidence that BYD products can even match European marques let alone surpass them, not to mention "made in china" still carries a stigma of low quality. People are happy to buy laptops and phones made in china but cars? I doubt it.

[@alexshoneya]

Tang EV is in range of 28k-34k in China. So everything that over this price is interest of EU bureaucracy.

[@UgglemannenFTW]

So what about VW ID cars costing half the price in china?

[@JohnyMcNeal]

​@@UgglemannenFTWBMW 3 series EV, 110mm longer is 24k dollars!

[@UgglemannenFTW]

@@JohnyMcNeal exactly so why dont we ask the European carmakers why they take this absurd high prices for the same cars in Europe?

[@alexshoneya]

​@@UgglemannenFTW half of car price in EU goes to bureaucracy

[@DrMAAMsudan]

Blade lifepo4 battery performs bad in freezing condition.

[@gu5800]

From Japan. BYD has world standards. We enjoyed.

[@zes7215]

wr

[@perjonasvilhelm]

Bmw 5 series comfort seats ripoff

[@Allin7days]

The problems with the Chinese EVs aren't how they look and perform. Reliability, will it run 5-7 years without major problems and low maintenance? Serviceability, can it be fixed easily, availabilities of parts and authorized repair shops? How about safety, resale value, and will the company be still around after 5-10 years?

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

Show ncap test results

[@nick.i.am97]

In my opinion, BYD is the best Chinese car manufacturer today.

[@jankaskyevitchjellbet7293]

No it's won't succeed 😅

[@don-ricodasilva5205]

I hate these reviews... Driving a 7 seater and complaining about the top speed handling.... Because everyone buying a 7 seater uses it on a track

[@yissibiiyte]

He is talking about top speed stability, which has nothing to do with being on a track. He is discussing how safe the car feels at speed, which actually is important

[@DaveDVideoMaker]

I hope BYD will come to Slovakia and the Czech Republic.

[@asia911]

BYD should stop giving their cars with terrible Chinese name.

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

Why ? Of mercedes can give German names Why can't byd give mandarin ?

[@asia911]

@@JonySmith-bb4gx Yang, Wang, Ding Dong. Sounds like a stereotypical of what people think that's how Chinese talk. That's why some chinese name is terrible.

[@TFSIChristmas]

No😂

[@eal_ppl]

EV ❌

[@cavb748]

Hi Thomas, don't fall for chinese car companies. Here in México they are crushing the market with very cheap cars that only last one or three years and then the owners loose more than 60% of their investment; no reliability, no spare parts and the worst customer service. Also check the comments in this video and you will finds lots of chinese acounts writing coordinated comments to create a positive narrative...

[@dzonikg]

Yes Mexicans are very ritch and line up to buy expensive German cars

[@its_EZ]

thx, I'd rather walk.

[@ivofixzone6410]

A chinese EV thanks, but no thanks.

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

Byd ev . Thanks yes thanks

[@BrateTebra123]

Build Your Dreams and Young Wanker... who comes up with these stupid names for the Chinese cars ccc

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

How is that an issue

[@TheCarGuru]

Another Trojan horse.

[@sha22276]

Why?

[@TD1237]

@@sha22276 Because many Europeans seem to perceive anything foreiggn, including well-made tech and cars, as a threet. Despite their history of lnvading other places...

[@mapsandnavigation433]

EV ? What does that mean? And chinese?😂 D I E S E L P O W E R

[@albertobenelli]

no EV will ever "conquer" europe, let alone a chinese one . The EV game is over .

[@USUG0]

Italian ignorance spreading everywhere in other news, model Y was the most sold car in Europe, and world too, in 2023.

[@albertobenelli]

@@USUG0 I see , so how would you call Germany with -35% sales of ev in may 2024?

[@albertobenelli]

@@USUG0 oh and it must be a long time you didn’t check sales tend of Tesla (and profits) for 2024, take your time, have a look, google it . Oh and by the way I am Argentinian , 100% and live in Miami since 1991

[@albertobenelli]

@@USUG0 and it must be a long time since you checked overall Tesla sales in 2024 (and profits) . And by the way I am 100% Argentinian and live in Miami since 1991 . Nothing to do with Italy as you assumed . (Another thing you failed) . Take your time and google “Tesla sales 2024” or “ev car sales trend in Europe 2024” . Try, you will be surprised .

[@USUG0]

@@albertobenelli just a bump on the road. Besides, let's wait the year end, and see ICE cars numbers as well. And Europe sales, not just Germany

[@Twin.motors]

Chinese cars will sell well if priced correctly. ( Half the price of legacy brands) You have to be brain dead to get this over a Tesla equivalent if the prices are similar

[@ensteffo]

🤡

[@user-tb1jy7rr9e]

with the new tariffs, the Chinese EVs are doomed

[@ensteffo]

China is the worlds biggest ev market so i think they will be fine.

[@vladimirdorta6692]

Exploding batteries, anyone?

[@venividivici1982]

Why unfortunately animal skin... That's the highest quality,we need to stop this sustainability BS

[@autogefuehl]

Thank you very much for your interest in this topic. I also bought cars with animal skin leather seats before I did my research and got to know the industry. The most important thing is: With today's modern materials, you have nothing to lose, just to gain. You achieve the same kind of luxury and comfort or even better while having the same or better durability with less impact on humans, animals and the environment. You can use fabric/cloth, microfibre or leatherette. The classic approach is using oil/plastic as source material. Overall, a vehicle contains about 300 kg plastic. A car seat needs about 5 kg plastic. So the overall plastic share for the seats is very low and it is at this moment the most efficient way to produce a car seat. A couple of litres of fuel equals a car seat basically. So if you want to save oil/plastic, rather look at consumption for energy, fuel and heating and to other car parts than the seat. Note that animal skin leather also always contains a plastic coating for durability. However, long-term we should of course find raw oil alternatives. So going further, seats can be made from recyclables (e.g. from PET-bottles or old fishing nets) or even increased share of plant-based materials (like pine oil, canola oil or start-up materials like Pinatex from pineapple leaves or Desertex from cactus fibre or the mixed-plant-based Mirum, so be seen at kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWLEf42bpMano6c). On a calculation base, by ditching animal skin leather from car interiors, the amount of emissions (CO2e) is reduced by 85 (!) % (www.press.bmwgroup.com/africa-dom-easteurope/article/detail/T0403389EN/on-the-market-from-2023:-bmw-and-mini-models-with-vegan-interiors?language=en) - and that is a very conservative calculation. So it is at this moment the most important thing you can do to make car interiors more sustainable. A good example for high-end luxury with ventilated animal free seats is the BMW X7 with Sensafin: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6G1f56NbtOlqNk And the Kia EV9 with plant-based oil share: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKe7loOHnsSAd80 New leatherette materials can be superior in every aspect, even for cleaning: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2qXiouAbJeIiqM More and more natural materials are rising: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIO2pIt7o9x7etE Also check out what the animal skin leather industry tried to with our channel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIHCdKmCocZ5oqs For seeing how the animals are being treated and transported in the global leather industry, watch this footage: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpzNdHSjppaSbqc Note that the footage is genuine and was recorded by a highly decorated investigative journalist in Germany I know myself personally. Also a group of researchers and German journalists from public media could recent directly trace the connection between car animal leather production and illegal burning down Amazon rain forest: www.daserste.de/information/reportage-dokumentation/ard-story/videos/illegales-leder-video-100.html In a high animal skin grade, the animals are specifically raised for this matter. However even if meat is the "first" misuse case, the hide remains a profitable body part. That means: If manufacturers put animal leather in a car and you demand it as a customer, you give your money to an industry that earns money by oppressing humans, animals and harms the environment, you make them more profitable. Alternatively, you could support industries with your wallet which try to improve the sustainability of materials. Also, if you turn the argument around to "meat is the waste of the leather industry" you realize that it doesn't make sense (and is ethically doubtful) to discuss the primary use of individual body parts of mammals. Mind experiment: You are getting slain down on the street; would it matter to you if it was for your smartphone or for your purse? Remember that animal skin leather is no different to fur, fur is just leather where the hair is still on. And fur is widely not accepted for clothing anymore, and of course not for cars. We cannot change what we have bought in the past, but with more information and compassion we can change how we decide in the future. For a great insight into sustainability in the automotive industry, you can also check out our extensive documentary: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y2nKf4uih6yhnaM

[@dzonikg]

@@autogefuehl Still people eat meat every day i dont thing that some animal is killed for them to eat it

[@autogefuehl]

Maybe read the whole statement for the background

[@tobhawk]

Guys, don’t buy anything chinese, don’t promote. Stop feeding the monster

[@ensteffo]

🤡

[@fadd6895]

Now that europe is turning to a Muslim 5 children per family continent 7 seater Chinese SUV is the right thing .

[@JonySmith-bb4gx]

Ok prove it . Waiting