EV Push Will Hurt Plant Output; BMW Calls EU E-Fuel Plan "Bogus Solution" - Autoline Daily 3867

[@dusandestanovic5884]

I love those electric Dodges.

[@zroger73]

7:10 *Except Tesla Superchargers

[@chrisg8995]

Does any US EV manufacturer other than Tesla make a profit? You said most don’t… I believe all don’t except for Tesla.

[@bunsw2070]

Tesla has never made a profit. They live off carbon credits.

[@mikedx2706]

MG cars are already on sale in Peru, and have been there for years!

[@thebigdoghimself]

Automakers need to suck it up and get EVs worked out before china builds factories in North America. If they aren't making money now, wait till they can't sell any cars because of a flood of cheap Chinese EVs hit the market.

[@dangrass]

Agree with Zipse that e-fuels are BS....but the only answer is to figure out how to make competitive EVs.

[@concinnus]

E-fuels should be for guys who want to drive their Ferraris, GT3s, etc., like 1000 miles a year. For them, the price is fine. It was never going to be a mainstream solution; anyone saying it was, was lying or delulu.

[@CausticLemons7]

I think e-fuels will by like hydrogen, part of the market but not the mainstream.

[@leunam3434]

The same situation in China. EVs don’t make money for manufacturers and buyers.

[@TheJ1s]

Mexico had become a hotspot for EV makers.

[@jeffs6090]

Please update your stock footage. Most of what you use looks like it came from 2004.

[@kevtheobald]

Some of that is due to what corporations will offer to the press to use, and unlike many KZbin channels, Autoline is not just using footage they have no authorization to use. I come to this channel for the info and know their budget is tiny. I worked in broadcast media and remember the thick show binders with releases and copies of payments for footage used in various segments. Autoline is doing a great job. If you want to donate $100,000 for better clips to drop in, I am sure John and his son would appreciate it.

[@MrTeff999]

@@kevtheobald Car companies prefer photos of old models.

[@rodrigogaya5276]

Wonder if Gary will mention Chinese EVs hit 50% share... Hmmm

[@petemonster1]

Gary covering things other than ICE powered... I already know how that is gonna go. I'll wait for the next AH hosted by John.

[@bunsw2070]

Chinese EVs sold where? Kazakhstan?

[@Clint-stanley]

You are drinking the legacy Auto kool-aid. Tesla and some Chinese automakers are making profits with their EVs. Legacy will not get better until they point the finger at themselves and improve how they make EVs.

[@Clint-stanley]

PHEvs are just 20% more efficient ICE vehicles. They will start getting phased out over the next few years.

[@foxtrotwolf6081]

The problem isn't only legacy. It's also their consumers. If people would buy Chevy Bolts (always been cheaper) in the same volumes as Teslas, GM would be making a profit on each.

[@flodjod]

@@foxtrotwolf6081 except the buying public came to realise they were crap

[@davidmenasco5743]

EV sales volumes will certainly increase over time, but it will be important for OEMs to do what they can to supercharge and accelerate that process. Part of the picture will be to understand the true strengths of EVs and promote them appropriately, based on how real people use real EVs. And part of it will be to develop the new corporate structures necessary for competitive EV development, with fully integrated systems and software. And part of it will be to decode and deconstruct the anti-EV narratives constantly being fed into every public conversation. These things will all become existential problems for EV makers - and especially legacy OEMs - as ICE sales fall below critical thresholds.

[@MrTeff999]

@@foxtrotwolf6081 I agree. The Bolt is probably a perfect second car for most people. (Personally, I wish it had more sporty handling.)

[@wt9653]

The Dodge EV charger looks like a family car. 😢 E-fuel and synthetic fuels are a joke! How cheaply can you make it. How much additional farms and other materials will be destroyed by this. Can you home charge from this. 😂

[@SOROS-family]

@@wt9653 that is only the base model

[@davidmenasco5743]

"We need money from the government to keep ICE engines running!" Awwww. Bless your heart, BMW.

[@ChicagoBob123]

Wait I thought the big three said marking EVs was simple, now they are getting their lazy butts kicked

[@davidbeppler3032]

They found out that customers demand quality EVs. That was the problem. If consumers would just give them $80k for whatever they decided to build, then everything would be fine. It is the consumers fault. Clearly.

[@davidmccarthy6061]

Difficult in this environment. The completely nonfunctional Congress and the constant election turmoil make it very difficult to set a multi-billion dollar course that changes every four years depending on administration. On top of that there is the complete lack of local charging in the U.S. so at least 60% of potential buyers can't use EVs if you gave them away. Fine now for the wealthy and the few that want a sedan/hatchback, but we also don't have any developed used-EV market of a wide variety of types people want. That won't be changing until into next decade.

[@remix-yy1hs]

​@@davidmccarthy6061so they can do a buy back stocks?

[@CSHarvey]

They F'ed around and Found out.

[@ChicagoBob123]

​@@davidmccarthy6061 Lots of used EV's from Hyundai Kia Ford and Tesla. Also the charging network for home owners doesn't need to be perfect because your charging at home.

[@joeperrone6677]

The reality is Stellantis is clueless. $75,000 Dodge Chargers won't sell very well, and for the same reason $70,000 Jeep Grand Cherokees sit on lots while you can't find a $65,000 Lexus GX550 anywhere. Pretty tough to buy a Jeep GC Trailhawk for $71,090 when a comparably equipped Lexus GX550 Overtrail is $69,250.

[@jermainec2462]

they better get there shit together fast ...

[@SOROS-family]

Trailhawk is being stolen every 24 hours, and then insurance pays for more... you do not realize they are now more stolen than a honda civic?

[@omelborpon3159]

The Charger EV is what is going to save Dodge's ass. Even the little old lady from Pasadena is thinking about trading in her shiny red Super Stock dodge.

[@phillyphil1513]

just a reminder today is 8/8/24 and the original deadline for the debut of the Tesla Robo-Taxi, a debut that has predictably been pushed off surprising NO ONE.

[@CSHarvey]

Just a reminder you're the only person who cares.

[@firefox39693]

Companies should still push forward with their EV plans. The battery mining capacity, processing capacity, and cell production capacity are all going to be needed. I've said this before, and I'll say it again. If car companies want to put EV production on hold, fine. But move forward with battery cell production. Sign agreements with semi truck makers and trailer manufacturers to let them buy that spare cell production for use as electrically-assisted trailers. Electric trailers are going to be the future of trucking and long-distance towing for pickups too.

[@2cartalkers]

Maybe for me this will go full circle, my 1st car was an MG Midget. I'd consider another MG from China---bring it!

[@davidmenasco5743]

MG EV factory in Mexico is pretty big news.

[@JogBird]

China also remained the #1 vehicle exporter by far in 1st half of 2024. most of their exports are ICE too.. so they have plenty of room to expand with EVs.

[@wonderplanet343]

China makes joint ventures usually mandatory and has/had high import tariffs. We need to defend and develop our industry to avoid total loss. Elon doesn’t care because Tesla is ahead now.

[@MGZetta]

There is no joint ventures in China anymore, they're already on top. "high import tariffs" is only for fossil cars and it's nowhere near western protectionist bs. You mentioning Tesla in the same comment you mentioned joint ventures kinda ironic. 😅

[@nerdbikes3841]

Chinese EVs are leading in technology, batteries, charging and some are making profits on EVs already. GM, Ford and Stellantis are falling further and further behind. Guess who is going to own the future?

[@kevtheobald]

I am no fan of the CCP, but they did focus resources on building up their EV manufacturing so they could dominate. The Western builders focused more on what Wall Street wants, because CEO pay packages are deeply impacted by their stock options. It is profit now and f**k the future Wall Street thinking that is one of the main problems. It will take both private sector and government focus to keep China from basically controlling everything. So many outside China just ignored changes in China as they started building more and more of our products. Many Western nations have invested heavily in China over the past 40 years. They help to create the beast that is going to eat their businesses up.

[@RAYDEEY17]

Why do western car manufacturers get to sell vehicles overseas but the Chinese can't. The double standards and hypocrisy is absurd

[@steven4315]

China is the world's largest auto exporter so clearly they are allowed to sell autos overseas.

[@owggarage723]

​@@steven4315What he really wanted to say is, why don't they let China destroy the last bastion of American Manufacturing. 😂

[@steven4315]

@@owggarage723 As a retired auto worker, I can tell you protectionism doesn't work.

[@stefanweilhartner4415]

they can. it is not forbidden.

[@RAYDEEY17]

@@stefanweilhartner4415 I know they can but they make it look like they're not supposed to sell them

[@eddiegardner8232]

If these domestically produced vehicles were priced liked Chinese EVs, they would be above 80% plant capacity utilization. Big difference in sales volume between $25,000 vehicles and $50,000 vehicles. They have to learn how to design and build vehicles that are less expensive to build, but still desirable and practical for consumers.

[@edornelas8275]

Plus lower maintenance than ICE counterparts. My EV of 6 years has been low maintenance but parts/labor are not cheap for in many cases just remove part(s) plug in new one & it’s ready. Many jobs are quick but you still pay a premium.

[@daves1646]

Global data forcasts that sales will higher than those not seen for the last 5+ years? Certainly not in the US. If vehicle prices continue their ascent (and lower-cost vehicle makers are excluded) the US, EU and Japan-based mega-featured, NHTSA-mandated “safe” cars will just be for the upper 30% of salaried workers.. Really, new car sales are going nowhere up long-term unless new vehicle costs get under control by some means.

[@anthonygray333]

SAIC is using MG to its advantage. Meanwhile BMW is letting Triumph rot.

[@SuperMassman]

I say,, open the boarders for cars,, F#ck these prices

[@cars291]

Dodge Pointless 😢

[@joebachmeier6747]

Pretty sad Dodge electrics

[@kevtheobald]

Stellantis in general is a sad mess. There are a few bright spots, but overall they are a mess. They were one of the more greedy companies during this greedflation era.

[@sergiomessina2037]

that BMW seat is the adult version of a child's car seat....

[@baronvonjo1929]

Wow. Absolutely ridiculous how expensive the new Charger is. Automakers dont want us buying cars. Dodge is a mainstream brand. Not a luxury brand.

[@anydaynow01]

Yeah inflation sucks!

[@jermainec2462]

​@anydaynow01 no, this is corporate greed ... everything is not because of inflation

[@edornelas8275]

What will end up gap is the dealers will be stuck either a 200-300 day supply like many have right now. The Hornet doesn’t sell, Ram 1500’s are sitting on lots & Jeeps expensive vehicles just sit.

[@markjmaxwell9819]

No surprise about SAIC which owns MG with the MG4 and a couple of other models extremely popular in Australia and some other countries. Having all the charge point locations on gps and the functionality of the chargers up to date is extremely important. With damaged charge points and the type of charger also critical information that should be available to the consumer online in up to date form. Ethanol based fuels are a great idea if we use something like an Australian spec RAV4 Hybrid running off E10 fuel as an example. 😎🇦🇺

[@2cartalkers]

EV production needs volume and only the Chinese and Koreans have mastered that process. Build it and they will come.

[@SOROS-family]

@@2cartalkers Xi labor, cheap labor

[@dangrass]

really? How about Tesla?

[@petersimms4982]

Game over 😮

[@mbeliv3763]

About EV charger, autosshit network don't say that tesla EV charger are 100% reliable

[@bunsw2070]

Because they aren't.

[@boostav]

5:00 hand outs and hand outs and more hand outs, that's all the legacy OEMs do these days

[@edornelas8275]

Plus the management salaries go up & up since not based on performance

[@Roddy451]

Will that Dodge be able to beat a Hyundai "Bionic" 5N at a track/drag? Hmmm... Inquiring minds would like to know. (For ze mhtirogla)

[@StormyDog]

Or a Tesla Model 3 Performance at a bit over 1/2 the price.

[@TimBorg]

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[@russh6414]

I appreciate that Dodge returned the Charger back to a two door design, now make a Daytona version with the retro huge wing as a special edition

[@praneethjayasimha5943]

dodge is dead

[@12345682900]

@@praneethjayasimha5943 It only seems that way because so much of their portfolio has been altered or erased. There is new product & platforms coming and the potential exists to be a profitable global contender. Let's revisit your comment in about 6 years, shall we?

[@3089280288]

Hell no

[@BogeyTheBear]

*Papa Bear:* No way. Wings cause drag! *Me:* But, what about downforce? *Papa Bear:* Have 'ya _checked_ the curb weight on an EV?

[@205rider8]

You forgot to mention Tesla has resolved the “problems” with EV charging.

[@stefanpredl6849]

They even fired the team not the construction and maintainance team of course

[@JohnH1]

Third quarter sales due out soon it will be interesting to see how Tesla is traveling, I would suspect not very well.

[@AllanSustainabilityFan]

Zipse: "Give us e-fuel subsidies or its pointlessness will be even more obvious"

[@edornelas8275]

Reminiscent of Hydrogen fuel at this time.

[@urbanstrencan]

Interesting tech by BMW , and still thinking that Dodge should keep V8 for new Challenger

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[@teebone2157]

Let China enter the United States market with their own electric vehicles if the u.S automakers don't want to make them and let china come in and take over the market

[@joebloe1401]

Elon Musk has FORSAKEN DEMOCRACY AND MOVED TO THE DARK SIDE OF THE FORCE!!! He DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE SUPPORTED BY ANY GOOD PERSON!!!! iMMIGRANTS ARE AT THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!!!!!!

[@thebigdoghimself]

That's a small-minded way of looking at it. China takes our money and uses it to build up their military. They are getting more aggressive day by day, giving them a blank check won't work out in our favor in the long run.

[@paulhaskins5191]

Well said. They’ll keep making excuses and dragging their feet until some real competitive pressure is applied.

[@mealien0808]

If they're building their EVs in America, they're welcome.

[@bobbbobb4663]

Tesla FSD News: Happy ReuterTaxi day! 12.5.1 hallucinates in rainy weather! 12.5.1 won't even read road signage properly! Supervised ReuterTaxi's soon!

[@russh6414]

Push out date to the push out date in, oh look AI flOptimus!

[@SOROS-family]

your jokes are never funny. downvoting

[@SOROS-family]

Everyone copied tesla. You are in denial, little one.

[@SOROS-family]

Tesla factory got huge in 5 years.. you can keep crying at home doing bad jokes all day here 😂

[@kenl.3775]

Tesla Malaysia scrapped! Tesla Mexico *officially paused! Tesla partnership with Costco in Taiwan cancelled!

[@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl]

Wow,game over for Tesla

[@SOROS-family]

@@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl he has 22 billion or more... can operate for years more, Ha Ha

[@kevtheobald]

Tesla hears that kind comment on a daily basis, but then grows more and reaches new levels of success.

[@joebachmeier6747]

@@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl hahahahaha

[@bobbbobb4663]

@@kevtheobald Define success...Adrian says Tesla is completely worthless without FSD. Happy 8/8 day.

[@nguyep4]

​@bobbbobb4663 "worth less" than what FSD would bring. Over 10x the value of an EV + Energy company. You already know that but needlessly spreading misinformation and lies because that you can.

[@mariane5601]

I wish that your program was start talking about normal gas in the car instead of EV electric you're not selling these cars and you keep on talking about them talk about what we were driving today

[@alanrivaldo-h]

EVs are the only thing interesting in the auto market today. The days of ICE vehicles are numbered. Would you also like to hear about new versions of Kodak film?