Zeekr Says It Will Be 1st Chinese Brand in the U.S.; Honda Unveils 0 Series - Autoline Daily 3965

[@KingRat71]

VW board members gave themselves a 25% raise last year. So unless their “cut” is more than 20% this year, they padded themselves so they wont even be really taking a cut as a result of this.

[@12345682900]

Correct. "The little guys" most often, if not always, "pay the price" for bad decisions & greed; it's a universal trait.

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

Did they really? Wow, I wish I could vote on my own raises.

[@12345682900]

@@lukerinderknecht2982 This is a common practice among boards. Yes indeed... at all costs, become a board member!

[@VinhNguyen-wt2ef]

The rank and file always get the short end when leadership is incompetent.

[@12345682900]

@@VinhNguyen-wt2ef Yes, sad but true.

[@eddieg6436]

Those new Zero Honda models are INCREDIBLE!! Love them!!!

[@Sacto1654]

Zeekr could actually pull it off if they can get an assembly line in the USA and essentially use the same hardware/software used on the Volvo EX30 (since Zeekr is part of hte same Geely Group that owns Volvo).

[@conworldus8310]

Of course they will. Having a factory in the US can greatly reduce logistic cost and also makes it easier to provide service. Plus, it will make it easier to customize so that Waymo can just install their own data collection and autonomous driving. This way the ban and tariff can be totally sidestepped.

[@user-ll5fq3tl1j]

Aren't Polestar and Volvo Chinese brands?

[@mrjim1973]

Buick as well!

[@faheemabbas3965]

@@mrjim1973 Buick is still under GM, but mostly doing best in China.

[@jeffs6090]

They are still Swedish brands. Geely now owns 78% and provides most of the money and some platform sharing. They probably wouldn't exist without that backing. Though, someone else probably could have purchased them.

[@remix-yy1hs]

​@jeffs6090 😂😂😂 what happened to to the Swedish battery company that got 20 billion from the eu hahaha they would never survive without china nor would you. You think you can afford made in usa 😂😂😂

[@benjaminsmith2287]

No, they are Swedish brands with a Chinese owner. ZEekr is a part Swedish brand as well. All Zeekers are designed in Sweden but for primarily the Chinese market.

[@nbeaudoin1]

Honda Gallardo anyone?

[@highlanderapparel]

Thank you, Sean. It’s gonna be interesting to watch Honda Nissan, especially since I live in Ohio 😊

[@pnketia]

Not impressed with Honda's next gen EV designs. They look like the future cars I used to see from auto companies in the 80's.

[@thabzmad7265]

They trying to pull a Cyber truck move, probably a great idea for North America but for the ROW, they need to go more basic and lower cost.

[@stanadams3886]

Asimo vehicles…? Maybe they are a nod to the science fiction writer Issac Asimov? The vehicles look like something from an old issue of “Popular Science”. Honda does “conservative” vehicles really well and maybe that is where they should remain.

[@thabzmad7265]

@@stanadams3886 Nope, a minute looking up something never hurt anyone. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASIMO

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

Love it

[@TimBorg]

please stop breathing oxygen oxygen steeler

[@mobayguy]

Thanks great video

[@2cartalkers]

O Saloon Honda looks like a futuristic Citroen CX or XM

[@MichaelAllen-td1uu]

I love Honda’s new EV designs.

[@JoelSapp]

Zeekr isn’t even the first Geeley brand in the US

[@TheJ1s]

If you have Spectrum, I understand. Our internet, cable, and house phone were down for 24 hours. Now they're back up and running. Honda is going with a very futuristic look with their EVs. Scout, I'm looking forward to it. BMW, I like the new infotainment display, though. Will their vehicles get that type of cool redesign? So far, I think their exterior looks nice. Their crystal knobs and buttons, I feel, are eye hazards.

[@billybobhobnob101]

I'm surprised China hasn't banned Tesla for national security reasons.

[@rwdplz1]

They have, from sensitive areas.

[@David_Polak]

Tesla has as demanded, stored their Chinese data in China.

[@SMJ-l6r]

​@@rwdplz1 there is no sales ban at all.

[@Rw-kt7qt]

The restrictions in China on Teslas were for video capture in government buildings and military bases. They removed those restriction once Tesla built a data centre to store all videos in the country.

[@michaeljiang960]

Tesla and musk are the biggest allies of China. Banning something is the dumb solution when you have no better answers.

[@trainman9119]

Zeeker looks like a smoothed out “Johnny Cab”.

[@carzombieeatery3216]

My dear Zeekr! I am Mr. Roarke, your host. Welcome to Fantasy Island!”

[@Charleh-tk2bw]

Yet another great Autoline daily, I love watching Autoline Daily! You guys are doing great!

[@pauld6967]

I am intrigued by both designs unveiled by Honda. It would've been nice to have them available to buy this year.

[@kyliefan7]

Let me guess the new Honda EVs will start at $80,000 in 2027

[@thabzmad7265]

Very likely as these are meant to be higher end, especially the saloon. The SUV should be at half that and below.

[@kyliefan7]

@ What is your proof for that? They will have to use expensive LG batteries and from what I have read about Honda they don’t have much experience with EVs! I’d believe it more if they were say Tesla!

[@thabzmad7265]

@@kyliefan7 Most established auto manufactures do not have much experience with EVs. But the main disruption is not skill or technical know-how, (heck anyone can build an EV given tools and equipment) it is more about a cost effective supply chain, mostly concerning batteries as you alluded!

[@thabzmad7265]

@@kyliefan7 they inked a deal with CATL a year or so ago for the next 5 years for current lithium technology and separately, they are readying their own solid state technology for imminent production this year. global.honda/en/newsroom/news/2024/c241121eng.html

[@daves1646]

VW and VWGOA better figure out a profitable AND cost effective US vehicle strategy or there will be no new factory for Scout. If the business model for the ‘cash cow’ is NOT sound, there won’t be $$ for the new plant build outs. Scout is closer to boutique than high unit production; going to need ca$h flow to fund the startup….

[@mrjim1973]

Passenger in Waymo self-driving car gets stuck circling parking lot while trying to make flight!

[@AlfarrisiMuammar]

China from 37% NEV IN 2023 TO 48% NEV IN 2024

[@nerdbikes3841]

Guarantee the Hybrid Scout will be $15k more expensive than the EV version

[@Mike-Minion]

they are all going to be 80k and up. they will have nothing for the regular people. and don't get me started on the lack of nothing for service. don't forget vw is building these. they will need service. i guarantee they will just shuffle everyone to the vw dealers ( I mean Stealerships ).

[@donswier]

The REx option on BMW i3 was roughly $4k. That option has saved us thousand$ over 120k miles, since we choose the i3 REx over our 4runner for nearly EVERY trip, short or long. Scout will price it based on demand, since it makes any EV far more desirable (they could easily trim the battery size by half, which reduces weight & cost).

[@HyperVanilo]

Zeekr should've sell their car, not providing one to be driverless taxi

[@MurseTech64]

Demand slowing down? Nah.

[@jamesvandamme7786]

Supply and selection are what's keeping demand "down".

[@tarawibowo]

Honda, and Japanese automaker is very slow in new car development. It still assume business as usual with development of 5 years while Chinese development is 2 years.

[@hclau218]

So sad the zeekr is still so proud to enter the US market. Does geely really like its B.. Ls squeezed?

[@MrHelpme1981]

It's a redressed Rivian.

[@junehanzawa5165]

Wrong, Polestar was the first Chinese owned brand to be sold in the US. And that's only if you don't want to count Volvo cars.

[@sohodon]

🏆👍🫡

[@schtinerbock4570]

GM was selling Chinese made Buicks Envisions back in 2016 and they’ve been importing Chinese cars ever since. Polestar didn’t start till 2019.

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

​@@schtinerbock4570GM isn't a Chinese brand.

[@AllanSustainabilityFan]

@@lukerinderknecht2982 Yet.

[@benjaminsmith2287]

Chinese owned is not Chinese. And Polestar is an offshoot of Volvo. Volvo has been making Volvo Polestar engineered cars for decades now and then Polestar was made into its own company with ex-Volvo designers and engineers. It is Swedish based, not Chinese based.

[@gelogmarine]

15 billion euros? what are they even paying this lobbying group for?

[@jimmykelly2809]

Welp that’s the beginning of the end

[@urbanstrencan]

Really love Honda new concepts❤❤

[@davidgrisco1939]

All these computer modules in modern cars lowering reliability and unavailable within a few years for repairs. I'm keeping my current vehicles as long as possible.

[@jessedaly7847]

Get you a horse

[@cainiaowu]

Nokia used to build long lasting phones too

[@lawrencefranck9417]

Honda hired a Korean design team….

[@uselesstable2058]

that desperate huh?

[@desobrien3827]

VW managers at least get to keep their jobs, & they led the way to VW's disasters! Sounds very unfair!!!

[@tyvernoverlord5363]

God I hope that this ISN'T the final design for Honda, that's fuggllllllllllllllllly!

[@Mike-Minion]

For honda to come out with evs this quick they have to be chinese.

[@1975brett]

With the lack of quality in Chinese household products gives me ZERO interest in their cars.

[@bobbbobb4663]

Negative Growth Tesla News: 2024 sales down 5% U.S.! 2024 sales down 6% in Europe! Only 9.9% of all 2024 BEV registrations in Germany were from President Elect Special K's company!

[@jeffg4570]

And yet in the toughest market there is, China, Tesla sales were up significantly in 2024.

[@nguyep4]

1% represents $31M in profit. The cry is too funny. Energy added $500M in net profit. Tesla 1.4T valuation is based on 1% drop in auto sale? You are hopeless. Lol

[@bobbbobb4663]

@@nguyep4 But your boss who tells everyone he disgreees with to FYIYF says Tesla is a an AI company. Now you are an energy company?

[@bobbbobb4663]

@@jeffg4570 And yet still behind Mercedes, Audi, and BMW. However, you barely beat buy here, pay here Wuling so congrats.

[@nguyep4]

@bobbbobb4663 Energy is one of the parts. Oh man, you need to be spoon-fed.

[@UPdan]

We love Geely!!!

[@desobrien3827]

A bit of a rant...I really dislike that Tejin "Woke Advert"! So fake!

[@AllanSustainabilityFan]

@2:49 Funny that they had to exclude Tesla to prop up their marketing sponsor numbers. Just say "they moved downmarket" despite having better features. But they're not completely wrong, because Tesla is indeed also the "best value" in the US market these days - sure a Corolla is "cheaper" but cheaper does not necessarily mean best value - so in a sense Tesla is indeed walking the fine line between premium and mainstream as their entry models now can be ordered for below the (inflated) average US vehicle prices today. Around half a million Teslas sold in the US for 2024 if wondering by the way.

[@garyladyman2642]

Wow, Tesla, 1Billion dollars, fantastic news 👏, onwards and upwards 👏

[@swainp2012]

Honda has no experience building EVs. So you should take this news with a big grain of salt. They are unlikely to deliver this promise

[@thabzmad7265]

Why couldn't they? You are wrong by the way, they do not only have experience, but are already producing 3 different models in China, one of which is also for sale in Europe and elsewhere, the e:NY1. Their previous model was the Honda-e, which was produced from 2020, recently discontinued. Before those models, other than the odd prototype in the past 10 years, they were 2nd to GM's EV1 in the mid-late 90's for the first production EV in NA with the Honda-EV plus in 1997. So just because they are not producing EVs on a scale noticeable to you doesn't mean they can't build them.

[@RoughNeckDelta]

Maybe their merger with Nissan will help with them building EVs

[@swainp2012]

@ Honda-e was a compliant car and didn’t do well in EU. Their partnership in China is producing, Honda doesn’t produce exclusively. The point is it takes 5-10 years to make a product and address all bugs and scale for profitability.

[@thabzmad7265]

@@swainp2012 So Dongfeng has an illustrious history of making automobiles? The 50/50 partnerships enforced by China are the exact reason China is now dominant, they wanted to bring in all the Western and Japanese car building intellect which they have recently used to destroy them domestically with EVs, now doing so rapidly in some market in Europe, Africa and AustralAsian with both I.C.E and EVs. So in a way, Honda and anyone previously forced to transfer vehicle construction IP to China has every right to reap rewards today with battery materials and software out of China, those vehicles are Audis,VWs, Toyotas, Buicks, Mazda's, Nissan's Volvos, BMWs because they are built that way and by the same manufacturers techniques, safety and engineering target tolerances, even if they are named funny!

[@Ayyyyydootdoot]

vehicle

[@M3W3]

Wifi issue? You need Starlink 😊

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

Inside a convention centre?

[@Mike-Minion]

Scout is already falling apart because vw is in charge. They literally have nothing yet and changes are happening. Now that is waste.

[@tbone9405]

Honda has lost…..it.

[@Charlie-xx2wj]

This guy's voice is objectionable. His elocution sounds rough and tumbling.

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

Nobody cares.

[@jeffreymorin6480]

Has anyone checked the safety of any Chinese cars? What crash rating would it get?

[@pnketia]

Yes many have been getting top ratings by Euro NCAP. You can check on their website for all the vehicles they tested and the crash/safety ratings.

[@2012bigPerm]

Not apples to apples from my understanding and adjustments would need to be made to pass tests in our (US) market. I don't think it's an enormous gap unless you're talking the super cheap stuff from other countries; those would be death traps in the US.

[@sohodon]

Nope

[@Chris-N916]

Chinese brands already selling in Europe are getting 5 star ratings in Euro NCAP crash tests, so yeah, tough as nails and as safe as can be. See for yourself: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZvbgKdsorFpfLMsi=3MnWn7CojPKLAdW4

[@hdhdhshscbxhdh4195]

Most of the byd, mg and zeekr models have been getting 5 stars on euro ncap

[@mbeliv3763]

AUTOSHIT NETWORK doesn't show TESLA sales as a luxury car. . SO WEIRD

[@MarkMeszarosYNG]

Tesla’s Elon Musk Legit May Be ‘GOING MAD’ FSD will never happen!

[@mcsike7264]

Sure keep telling yourself that they said the same thing about SpaceX 😂

[@ranig2848]

Clearly you never experienced v13. Just took our Tesla from SF to LA. FSD did ALL the driving. I only drove about 200ft at the supercharger (one stop while we were having lunch/dinner) and at the hotel parking lot. It also did ALL of the driving in LA (those who have been to LA know it’s not a simple task). I had no, as in ZERO interventions. On I5 It even passed slow drivers on the left lane, then when reaching a semi on the right gracefully move back to the left lane - exactly like I would. If I didn’t know better I had quite a few instances where it just read my mind. It was just amazing. It was mind blowing. FSD is already here and unsupervised FSD will happen in 2025 (for sure in Texas, hopefully CA bureaucracy won’t delay it but even if it does, it will be just a few months of delay).

[@bobbbobb4663]

@@mcsike7264 Name one insurance company (other than Tesla) which will write a policy to cover the use of FSD as Unsupervised.

[@mcsike7264]

@bobbbobb4663 hmm idk that's why tesla has its own insurance ig

[@killerhurtalot]

@@mcsike7264 Tesla's own insurnace won't cover the use of FSD unsupervised lol.

[@BipolarBoomer]

Bye-bye Honda-Too little, too late, too bad.

[@willarddunham8017]

50% Tarriff on anything Chinese...on day 1.!"

[@JohnnyBean78]

For Honda, what does 0 mean exactly? What a pity they can't give names to cars anymore, just numbers.