Automating The Steam Turbine for Maximum Efficiency! Oxygen Not Included Tutorial

To reiterate how it works: Steam turbine Inlets: 5 Inputs: each not blocked inlet up to 0,4 kg Steam (2 kg max) Outputs: same mass as input steam of 95 °C water Power: proportional to heat removed: 850 * mass * (temperature - 95) / 210 W, where mass is kg and temperature is °C of the input steam. That is 1032.5 DTU per W produced (877 590 DTU for max 850 W) Heat: Heat removed steam -> water: mass * (temperature - 95) * 4179 DTU Self heating 5 000 + heat_removed / 10 DTU or 103,25 per W produced (92 759+ DTU at 850 W) Self heating is not caped as Watts, so if you keep heating your steam, the turbine will also heat more. Optimal production of 850 W: 5 inlets: 2 kg 200°C steam 4 inlets: 1,6 kg 226,25°C steam 3 inlets: 1.2 kg 270 °C steam 2 inlets: 0.8 kg 357,5 °C steam 1 inlet: 0.4 kg 620 °C steam (Bugged, work's only on 50 % effectivity) So basically the steam turbine converts heat to power and it doesn't matter on the amount of water that goes through it. It converts 1032.5 DTU to 1 W (thats 877 590 DTU for 850 W). To not waste power the only thing you need to pay attention to is that you input maximum 877 590 DTU into the system.

[@Arkaon666]

a question, english is not my primary language so i have something lost in translation, in 14:06 when he says that the amount of steam is the problem, i get lost in the explanation, so my question is, if i want to use the same temp setups in the thermostats, i have to use 1 kg of water for obligation?

[@shachar2]

@@Arkaon666 amount of steam = how much "air" there is

[@TheRidinhood]

thank you

[@nedimmrsic2173]

Sit down Honza.. here is an A for the whole school year. Actually.. f the school, u want a job?

[@Fall2RUIN]

So how do you fertilize the weeze worts if they're trapped in a room?

[@suzyb1499]

In the interest of efficiency it's better to keep the turbine at 99'C and have the water output wind past it in radiant pipes. That way the water returns to the bottom as close to boiling as possible. This can be achieved by having the weezeworts in an adjacent chamber, with a heat lock between them.

[@db-jugg3r]

Something that Brothgar didn't know at that time: There is a bug which occours when water turns into steam at very high temperatures and pressures. The water moves the steam out of the tile into surrounding tiles, resulting into deleting of mass and temperature.

[@choliday6480]

Glad I could keep the Steam Turbine clean for you.

[@xpumpkins8951]

17:00 shows the temperature configurations for each door

[@neatoburrito5839]

I was just testing this on my own today! Glad to see someone who knows what they're doing mess around with it :P

[@MrRobesz199303]

1000 like challenge accepted :) 15:56

[@buder5116]

im in

[@MrRobesz199303]

You will suffer! Muhahahahaaa!! :)@@brothgar

[@SlimThrull]

@@brothgar I liked it twice just to spite you.

[@MrRobesz199303]

@@brothgar 1000 like :D

[@wiredwater7331]

@@brothgar 1.1K

[@willpaulson]

your door system would make a lot of sense with an inconsistent source of heat like a volcano. you could get rid of the bottom doors cycling heat into the system and just capture whatever heat the volcano puts out as it cycles. The doors blocking vents can open and close to keep the turbine at full wattage during the dormant period.

[@Jeru3]

You should get paid for doing QA for klei 😅

[@Talon323]

Im ipressed you managed to build a steam engine on your own. Its usually a s-team effort!

[@bieuw5304]

Finally the steam turbine has been tamed! 👍

[@MijnAfspeellijst1234]

That akward moment you worked at a power plant and you still had to look up how to make steam generator in oxygen. nice video thought ;p

[@gandalftheantlion]

Nice! that means you can use steam geysers to power steam generators while using the water it generates to have a lower temp. Edit: also you could use a buffer sensor till it activates giving it time to cool or warm up.

[@GrindThisGame]

You would make an excellent bench scientist Brothgar :) Thanks for sciencing the shit out of that turbine.

[@emrepalapi]

That Outro alone, made it worth sitting down and watching a man torturing himself willingly for 23 minute straigt.

[@breizhbugs]

I just use a water tank + a shutoff valve between the steam engine and the volcano room.... When the pressure of the room is below 20kg/tile steam, i open the shutoff valve so water come to cool down. When the heat is over 140/180°C a thermo sensor switch on the steam engine so it start generating power. (and pump steam to lessen the room pressure and store water to water tank etc...) Ofc it's not optimal, but i dont mind: it works well enough for me :D

[@xxrexxanxx9912]

you gotta do it man, you got the 1k! :D

[@missquprison]

That one chunk of free space on the left at 8:15 you didn't fill made my OCD go insane. D:

[@Salar_Sh]

356, 269, 225, 200 This is all you need to know. One port always open, as temp drops, 2nd open at 356, 3rd at 269, 4th at 225, 5th opens at 200, and if your turbine works below 200 all the time this system is not for you.

[@Opiatius]

This + Tonyadvancedoni's late game steam vent tamer would be op as hell

[@TheMajkhrhr]

i got idea for a gameplay. A SuperTight, claustrophobic base - every bit of space matter, no room for unused tiles : )

[@hobbylper6264]

so basically all of my previous colonies...

[@GrebnevNikita]

You just made the gearbox for a steam-powered car.

[@Soulsphere001]

I think I'm going to have to re-watch this a few times to fully understand it. I ran out of coal and need a new power generator, so I think I'm going to look into steam power. Fortunately, I have some wood so I can use that for a short period of time while I dig down into the depths and try and get steam power going. Though I don't think I'll care much about efficiency at first. EDIT: Though I do have a copper geyser, so maybe I'll try and get power out of that first.

[@nolan4339]

Have you ever tested the insulation value of having hot or cold normal pipes behind insulated tile vs insulated pipes behind normal tile? And which combination is better? You could also mix it up with radiant pipes or metal tiles. Is it actually worthwhile to put insulated pipe behind insulated tiles and how much so? (of course I'm assuming you aren't using 'insulation' materials to create these insulated tiles or pipes)

[@Yakatashi]

Spreadsheets and graphs

[@stuardbrtube]

I tried in my debug test save, but in a bigger scale. The single one still ok, but with 6 turbines, the magma solidified below the metal tile block...

[@amirorang1647]

hey there brothgar can you please do a 0 to 100 how to get off the rock series or like how to build a complete base and get off the rock please cause theres no good all round tutorial out there!

[@amirorang1647]

@@brothgar thank you and cant wait for it !!

[@QuantumFluxable]

0:28 oh no there's that awful annoying discussion in the discord.

[@TheThreeDGrasshopper]

22:48 I’m tickled 😂😂

[@vitorfray]

I haven't tested, nor played the game in a few weeks. But by what I'm seeing, this turbine alone with no automation whatsoever could condense the steam from steam geysers, and even generate a small amount of power from it.

[@baseballjustin5]

Yes for the rocket heat, (mainly so I see the science, not because I play the game lol) But it is useful for others who do play the game

[@m.a.2152]

thank you very much :D nice video :D:D

[@endor6848]

We need an updated oil boiler from a volcanoe

[@thiagorsvful]

Hey can u try make working cells,. a cell for generator with 4-5 dupes. a cell for agriculture, etc.. all of them with bed, common room, bathroom and restaurant.

[@jacobquevedo7256]

Thiago Mello I am actually working on something similar, using Brothgar’s infinite power system that I adjusted to be more compact and using a polluted water geyser, produce bristle blossoms at a decent temperature (11 degrees). I think the idea is very doable if you have a lot of time.

[@pnm7407]

Does ONI have their own steam tables?

[@TheStigma]

Assuming that you have materials that can handle the steam temperature (like simple steel and crude oil) you could maybe re-use that waste heat from the turbine room by actively pumping it back into the warm-side. I don't know if that heat-pump would be paying for itself in terms of the extra energy added for the generator, compared to deleting it but even if not it would be a very clean and self-contained solution at least.

[@MrGustavier]

so how many factors in total ? pressure and temperature ? that's it ? so you should do a 3d chart, pressure temp and watts

[@rocksfire4390]

i mean you are wasting energy, the wheezeworts are destroying the heat generated from the turbine, that could be recycled back into the system! the heat generated by the turbine is always equal to 10% of the heat destroyed, thus every 10 seconds or 10 cycles you get the 11th second or 11th cycle for free by grabbing this heat and putting it back into the system. another way of looking at it is instead of the turbine destroying 877,590 DTU/s for 850 watts it only destroys 799,831 DTU/s for 850 watts. is it worth it? most likely not as there are a ton of ways to get heat for almost no cost....however this would be the most effective way to run a turbine.

[@moldycarrot9267]

Ok, but if your only priority is to put out as much cooling as possible, all vents should be open right?

[@Arkaon666]

can i use this thos cooldown my thermo aquatuners?

[@ersmilata6014]

do the duplicants not have to go in for the wheezewarts

[@dakrayus6519]

Does this mean the steam turbines can no longer be used for meteor defence?

[@Arkaon666]

How where they used?, i have several heat problems in space and im still trying to figure how to solve the

[@TheStigma]

@@Arkaon666 They were one of the few indestructible machines in the game, so they were perfect meteor shields even though this was obviously not what they were designed for. I have no idea if they fixed this when they rewamped it.

[@Ghorda9]

@@TheStigma i think that was fixed, brothgar found that out when he reviewed the mk 3 update.

[@משפחתלובק]

you are my best youtuber!!!

[@pnm7407]

Does PV=nRT work for the following scenario? Vacuum created by "deleting" a tile surrounded by other tiles. Pass a gas or liquid through a pipe traveling through said vacuum space. See if temperature rises. I.E., Ti OOOOOOOOO Tf -> === OOO === OOO ===== -> OOOOOOOOO Ti < Tf?

[@Clearwater_WT]

I think I figured out a way to produce net energy out of steam turbines+aquatuners run super coolant through 2 aquatuners, and heat up 102 degree or higher polluted water set automation to turn on 3 steam turbines and refill water pump (with valve set to 6kg/s for 3 turbines) at 194+ degrees once everything is heated up, you should get net energy out of it, but not much, around 150watts. Its not that practical, but i think its fun though. I tested it myself, but found no practical use out of it... maybe you can try the setup and see what you get out of it?

[@Clearwater_WT]

or maybe optimize the setup so it becomes more useful :P

[@dark_noone9287]

Would same temperature levels on work with smaller amount of heat, like from aquatuner?

[@harrin1982]

I noticed the fluctuating liquid and gas in pipes issue recently myself. My old hydrogen generator worked perfectly fine up until about a few weeks ago! My laptop (which I never update) still works flawlessly. Was a soft update done to the game? my concern is what changed?? something obviously did. I have also noticed that depending on where the hydrogen generator is setup, the system works differently as well. so odd. What are your thoughts on this?

[@0x0404]

Is it more efficient if colder? If not you can(or could) cool it to operating temperature with its output water thus heating the water back up a little bit for even more heat saving.

[@sparda169leon]

Possible to use the waste heat from base cooling system in some way?

[@0x0404]

I'm less sure it works. Seems like it pulls heat out of the steam room even if it is turned off. I can't manage to keep it under 100c with it's own output. So far it appears like it does need active cooling.

[@supercables251]

You need to add relevant info to the description, not a copy paste group of links. I came back looking to the sensor values, but they are buried in the video.

[@jacobquevedo7256]

I just noticed that there is a zombie plant added to the game. Can you look into it?

[@PyrokineticFire1]

it seems like you're overlooking your ability to modulate water flow into the steam chamber.. i don't see how it would be beneficial except to cope with a dynamic heat source, but maybe someone can make it useful

[@davidstocker2278]

1k likes means more maths? I like maths. Therefore I liked your video. Qed

[@PashaGamingYT]

Dude, did you forget about your gameplay series?

[@geegee3702]

Is a lot better to build stuff like that in the simples way but realistic way also, magma is a powerful source of heat but too much heat at once and not unlimited, steam volcanoes are nice but what if u spawn in a world without. So i think its better to look for a simple system

[@TheGreenTaco999]

kDTU's from steam engine become unmanageable send help

[@ehydra._.1385]

Do you see the sentence: it's actually 199.9999999999999999999999999 degrees lol 0:27 that's mine

[@BigReddthehebrew]

While these are cool to look at building them in an actual game sans sandbox hasnt been practical for me so I end up winging it

[@Abdul_Rafay_Pal]

What is this software?

[@xxffdsfa334]

"Steam Turbine" is the wrong wording now. as of now its nothing but a "heat flusher", they should rename it. from that 850 Watts you will need about 80% to keep the Turbine cool... in your example u need six (6) Weezwords to keep the one (1) Turbine cool. WOW! (two Anto Entropy Thermo-Nullifier to cool down my 4 Steam Turbines are not enough, if all 4 Turbines are producing 835W) (i use 5 Weezwords to keep my 4 metal refineries cool, and still can cool down my Farm to 1C) and as of now there is no endgame power source ;(

[@jacksonleung6818]

Brothgar... You got 1,000 likes... Please link to the "video" :p

[@kxngjonas9576]

#like to make bro do math

[@Dima____]

now i know why its not working at all by me ^^

[@Marnogtot]

No more wheezeworts on flower pots :/

[@AndikaKrisnat]

just play it today and it still exist i use it to generate radbolt

[@Noracto]

Almost at 1000 likes xD

[@nedimmrsic2173]

Can we simply get a torrent with "temp fix command" i dont feel like doing high tech enginering just to have fun playing some game..

[@mango_ace]

2+2=5

[@elijahmelendez9864]

this is why I love white people.

[@AlexYT-bh5lb]

its a really fun game and i am pretty far

[@ducky2379]

Hmm, yes. Very math, lots of engineering.

[@oiolosse2201]

+

[@dylanwatts9344]

Magma isn't the only way to make steam...

[@Mechalanglo]

100th comment

[@travisborders42]

aye first

[@AlexYT-bh5lb]

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