30 THINGS YOU SHOULD KNOW ABOUT 2025 TOYOTA 4RUNNER // PLUS ENGINEER'S QUALITY CHECK

The all-new 6th Gen Toyota 4Runner is stirring the market with gorgeous design and very capable platform - plus it delivered some delightful news such as made-in-Japan label and retention of the sliding rear window. But there are much more surprises found in the new 4Runner - so Automotive Engineer David Chao decided to outline "30 things you should know" about the 2025 4Runner. There are perhaps much more than 30, so we would love to hear from you what else might have surprised you.
Automotive Press is owned and managed by David Koichi Chao, a global expert in the field of automotive evaluation, engineering, and strategy. With over 35 years of engineering experience, David is able to review vehicles from unique perspectives utilizing technical and specialized methods. David is a board member and a director at AJAC (Automobile Journalist Association of Canada).
David is known around the world as an authentic specialist of Lean/Agile Thinking, and travels all around the world to review vehicles and teach latest engineering methods. Born and raised in Japan, David has an engineering degree from University of British Columbia and post-graduate education from MIT and Harvard Business School in Boston.

[@JEB757]

David keep up the great work! Please speak to what you believe the longevity of the propulsion system with and without the hybrid. I daily drive my current (and former) 4Runners and the reliability and cost of maintaining is great. I’d love the extra power provided by the hybrid set up but I’m concerned with the life and cost of replacing the traction battery. Given that I have no option without a turbo I’m not sure I want to add the extra complexity and potentially extra cost of replacing the hybrid battery (or other components) at say 150,000 miles. I’d like to hear your feedback and expectations (specifically regarding reliability and maintenance cost, long term, for the hybrid components). Thanks!

[@cksean]

Best part of 5th gen to me was the flat rear cargo. I used to have my sleeping pad and sleeping bags ready when I go camping solo. Too bad that's not the case anymore 😕

[@AA-mk4pu]

And… 4.0l engine

[@1111111111202]

is it really truly flat? i read it wasnt completetly flat

[@Hit-the-road-YYC]

it depends on 4Runner Trim. My 2022 5th gen Off-Road is not flat in the cargo area but because I lower the 60 of the 60/40 back seat to sleep when I camp, I use a 1.5" x 24"wide platform that makes it flat for me to sleep with my 6" thick trifold mattress. Easy fold up of the mattress into the back cargo area and the 1.5" platform can remain if I want to put the seat back up into place. Easy mod/works great.

[@robertblaney5033]

@@Hit-the-road-YYC it’s flat if you have the pull-out cargo tray

[@debratakahara2494]

@@AA-mk4pureliable yet crappy gas mileage and lack luster acceleration/power.

[@snowdogs123]

It’s frustrating to know the limitations US regulations have brought to the next generation product lines for Toyota SUVs. The Prado LC and same sized 4R makes no sense while the LC300 is sold across other continents. One can only hope an administration change opens the door for the return of V6 4R’s and wouldn’t a 5.7L LC / Sequoia be a nice upgrade! Until then, I’m keeping the 2021 LC200HE and the 2024 5th gen 4R in the garage and don’t look for these new models to make appearance in my driveway!

[@555atU]

You nailed it. So many people are complaining about powertrains accusing Toyota of pushing this. Its government and their cafe standards.

[@ryanyoder8686]

I don’t think any administration will stop the move towards greener cars and EVs

[@thebeast9606]

The Hilux uses different variations of the 4cyl turbo, and it is arguably the most reliable and dependable vehicle in the world. Why would Toyota give us an engine that would be riddled with problems, yet those who own the Hilux never complain..🤔🤔🤔

[@JEB757]

Exactly! I’d love to have the new LC with the diesel offered in the EU!

[@BarnStangz]

That 5.7 is gone forever. You'll never see it return in the USA, just like we'll never get the bad ass Toyota diesel engines everyone else has. The US sucks D when it comes to the good stuff.

[@castandblast1852]

The only thing I don’t understand is why the land cruiser is so expensive. It doesn’t come with skid plates or off road tires/wheels etc. given the price point and options available, I would like to purchase a 4Runner in the future.

[@Phi.D.888]

You're paying for the name and few upgrade

[@AllenKrughoff]

Full time 4wd, better interior and taller vehicle. The models with comparable features (TRD Pro, Trailhunter, Off-road w/iForce Max) will be over 60k, easy.

[@RetiredArmy2012]

best overall vehicles in the world 4runner for life

[@andyerwin3535]

Six will not last for life

[@Deanna6544]

LOVE!! How gorgeous. I’m forever a 4Runner fan…

[@johnyu3173]

just curious if they have any pictures of the base model such as sr5? unable to find it anywhere!

[@puravida5683]

I still enjoy driving my 2006 4Runner V8 Sport Edition. I would buy a 2025 4Runner if it still had a V8! I have never been a fan of turbocharged engines.

[@syyigit]

And I definitely agree with you about trd pro’s bumper outliner pieces. They definitely had to be more rugged, not easy to scratch able shiny smooth surface.

[@greensandbeansgaming1358]

What is the measurement of back window across? Wondering if you could fit a 4x8 plywood or drywall out the window? Also to take the rear seats out, is it still just a couple bolts? Do you think there is any danger to sleep on top of the battery for road trips and vanlifers? Can you fit a bigger tire on the wheel that it comes with? How much longer in your opinion will the engine outlast the battery? Can those gloss Pro fenders be wrapped? What is the cost of cross over bars and best ones to get for the roof rank? What is the best undercoating to get? Is it recommended full synthetic oil from factory? Do the backseat door windows have the option to go all the way down or is it always on child safe?

[@greensandbeansgaming1358]

Also, if you know, what would be the cost for a new battery and turbo unit if they go? Thanks

[@tonyoliver2330]

My question is what differentiates the Land Cruiser from the 4Runner? They seem to occupy the same market space

[@providentpathfinders219]

I’ll be happy to have a 4Runner that doesn’t huff and puff and get passed by Priuses climbing 6% grades to get into cooler weather and pine forest.

[@DualSports]

Is the non-hybrid 6g 4runner lighter than the 5g? Would really like to see some weight loss for switching from a v6 to a turbo i4.

[@roadrider04]

Love the 4Runner. My fully loaded Gen 2 was still the best We and manual transmission. I’m going to get another Gen 5 TRD Sport. Just don’t want a 4 cylinder turbo. Great video as always.

[@ggtelevision]

Glad you showed the non-hybrid rear floor height. I assumed all would be raised. What I like with my 5th gen with no tray is that I can carry a bike inside on a fork mount upright, Seeing the hybrid's floor height on all the hybrid models was a bit of a letdown in that regard, as well as loading heavy items. I would be interested in exact measurements between, 5th gen with no tray, the non-hybrid new 4Runner and the Trailhunter, which to me with it's non glossy wheel arches and as accessorized is the one I would get. Also wanted to add a comment regarding the Trailhunter's compressor placement. It's aweful. Cannot believe they placed it low and forward, so if you have a loaded rig, you need to move gear out of the way first to use the compressor. They could have located the outlet on the rearward panel. For some, it may be easier to use an accessory compressor than having to move gear just to use the onboard unit as compelling as it is to have it integral.

[@lamesamelame]

Will a manual transmission option be available?

[@rmoore07]

What is the point of the LC 250? Less capable than a 4Runner and the base model with basic interior and cloth seats costs more than a current TRD Pro.

[@lonecamper1806]

Do you have any information or possibilities about the interior of the new 4Runner as compared to previous versions? Specifically for those of us that intend to outfit the inside for sleeping and storage for trips and camping. The Hybrid version obviously takes some of that space. And what about the sliding cargo deck?

[@georgepsaltis9023]

David, I want to go to Japan and see my 4Runner being built, either mine or someones. Do you have room for a paying passenger?

[@mr.stainless]

GX 550 vs 4Runner bs Land Cruiser ? Think its GX for me

[@bkuri189]

The image of the Platinum model , silver colored 4R appears to have a higher clearance than a standard 4R. Will the Platinum and the TRD Pro have an identical clearance?

[@sandeepcheema8279]

What is the payload for different 4Runners??

[@dorrito]

Great video! I would say the back isn't quite land cruiser though, has the wrap around window.

[@D_F_L_]

The new 4Runner hybrid interior height difference is what exactly? No one has measured this? The concern is both the roll down window and overall height is interior wise is much shorter than the current gen? I don’t see how large dog size kennel or overlanding builds will work. With Hybrid battery disclaimer stating there can’t be more than 150lbs on the load floor, too? No KZbinr has discussed this yet. Even the land cruiser interior height is shorter than the current 4R, but exterior is much higher?

[@sarahnipper8374]

Do you know if there is a Birds eye view on any of the trim levels ? I did see an option for some views while in 4 wheel drive but I'm wondering about 2 wheel drive.

[@Gemini530]

Are they comfortable? I usually lease bmw's and merc's. I'm thinking of getting this to save money, but if it's not comfortable, I'll stick with merc.

[@jamesgerboc]

No doubt, build quality is spot on. But who's in charge of styling? It looks like it was designed by a child who likes transformers or space ships! Nothing round anywhere. Washing this thing will be a chore. The wheel wells are still square for a tire that's round. I sure hope the wheel well does a better job accommodating oversize tires than 5th Gen because it will look downright silly with small tires. Nice interior but exterior is off-putting. Will look to Jeep next time. Much more mature styling.

[@josephvallier1152]

Has Toyota released ground clearance, approach angle, departure angle and breakover angles for the 4Runner Trailhunter trim?

[@revmotor]

Almost no point in buying the Prado with this around

[@Spike.SpiegeI]

Great breakdown!! David, do you know if the new 4runners are taller than the 5th gen? My garage isn't very tall, and this worries me. I found a website that said it was about an inch lower, but you mentioned these new models are bigger. Can you confirm if they are taller?

[@BryanWicker]

Why is Toyota discontinuing the SR 5 Premium?

[@ryansinks4919]

Will a full time 4wd version be offered? Thanks!

[@AutomotivePress]

Yes but on Limited and Platinum trims only

[@bobd1103]

at what speed does it switch to gas mode

[@JonButler-eg5pq]

What about the fact The 4Runner is over 4 inches shorter than the Land Cruiser but it has 1 inch more ground clearance than the Land Cruiser-does this mean the 4Runner feels cramped in the cabin compared to the Land Cruiser since there is a net variance of over 5 inches for the body-higher ground clearance yet 4 inches shorter for the 4Runner. Or does the Land Cruiser feel like the 2023 GX with lots of sitting height in the cabin?

[@AutomotivePress]

Actually 4Runner is not 4" shorter than Land Cruiser, it's slightly longer in terms of overall length. Actual data: 193.8 inches for Land Cruiser vs. 194.9 inches for 4Runner

[@JonButler-eg5pq]

@@AutomotivePress talking height-specs say it is 4+ inches shorter in height than the Land Cruiser

[@AutomotivePress]

The 4Runner feels a bit more cramped in terms of headroom, but since Toyota has not provided actual interior dimensions, we can't verify until the data is available

[@gpg619]

Hi David , I’ve heard in Canada only 7 models would be available instead of 9. Do you know which 2 models are we missing?

[@Dogheadman]

I checked the Toyota website and I guess trail hunter would not be in Canada ?

[@leardi58]

I feel they missed the mark there's much they could have changed manual transmission removable top etc they have to get new management with new ideas give what the people want

[@JalalKhan-mm3pv]

4runner is not a Tacoma, I loved the 5th generation 4runner appearance, why turn it in to Tacoma??

[@syyigit]

And on the side of the car plenty of space to put batteries instead putting on the floor and destroying flat space after seats folded. For the for runner after folded seats flat space is must. Otherwise vehicle is not 4runner

[@jon7926]

Gen5 is a better truck. Yes might not have as great power and might have 17 mpg instead of 19. But you’re paying like 20 k more to get the new one. N the 5th gen never breaks it’s a tank.

[@user-rw7xd7qy3j]

Instead of saying " The cargo space is huge" I wish you would measure it in inches

[@solooverland3666]

I do the same when I describe myself to my gf. It works. Recommended

[@user-rw7xd7qy3j]

@@solooverland3666 lmao I'm gonna try this

[@brianl4941]

@@solooverland3666 as long as she doesnt say the same, your good to go!

[@fredyoung7506]

Is the 4 runner gas door opened from the inside or outside?

[@villegas188]

From remote control😂😂😂.

[@solooverland3666]

I’m sure it’s satellite-controlled, except on the SR5, where is gerbil-driven…

[@jeffreyscott5799]

Hopefully these are way too expensive so the working class can not afford one unless they win the powerball!

[@tjsullivan4793]

No paint thickness gauge?

[@bonusb2924]

Looks like a Highlander and an Aztec had angry nookie

[@jon7926]

When are they going to show an SR5 single turbo forerunner I don’t want to see these 60,000 $70,000 ones. Most people are going to buy the SR5 show us the SR5 Toyota.

[@jsprite123]

I'll wait 2 or 3 years minimum until they iron out the bugs...

[@ark-transport9626]

The wheel well trim… Nasty. I thought we learned long ago that those look tacky.

[@TheL046Kid]

4 cylinder fail. HARD PASS...

[@Nihil0s]

Your loss. Stay ignorant!

[@aaronbrown6266]

Willing to bet the 4 cylinder gets no better fuel economy than the venerable 1GR-FE V6. So, what's the point? I get the HP and torque are up, but to what expense? Asking a helluva lot from a 4 cylinder. Time will tell...

[@tnkstudio4622]

I can see a flaws that I hate with my highlander. The blind side, the side mirrors is a big blind side the way it is. I almost ran over pedestrians many time. My Tundra has less blindside then these smaller SUV

[@obsoletecd-rom]

I’m glad the stuff coming out of Japan is good quality because the same can NOT be said about the stuff from North America. Anything built during the COVID years is just inexcusably bad.

[@Michael-kf7gm]

David, this new 2025 model looks to me like it’s simply a refresh of the current model. Why is Toyota too scared to change it up too much? I mean, we waited 15 years for this. Just seems uneventful.

[@AutomotivePress]

Actually, it's not a refresh. It may look similar but it's an all new model now based on the TNGA-F platform. Everything is new, nothing carried over.

[@Michael-kf7gm]

@@AutomotivePress Yes, I know from an engineering perspective it is completely new. But why not change up the aesthetics? The rear facia looks so similar to the existing model. And the front facia is not drastically different. Purely from the looks of it, it looks much more similar to the existing model than the existing model looked to the 4th generation. Is Toyota just playing it safe?

[@AutomotivePress]

@@Michael-kf7gm From my perspective, there is a drastic difference in styling, so we may have to agree to disagree. It's only a few areas where they kept things "safe" but otherwise it looks pretty different to me.

[@Hit-the-road-YYC]

@@AutomotivePress Hi David, Brian from Calgary. I like your view on the "new look". Some nice changes to the look but remains a TOYOTA 4Runner. Nothing else truly has the 4Runner look as so many vehicles when they get new generations they all follow the same look throughout manufactures. At 29yrs old I bought a new 1990 2nd Gen - 4door manual (first year offering a 4door) and my love for the 4Runner began. In 2007 I bought a new Sport model of which my son now has and it's @ 400k. I bought a new 2022 Off-Road which just turned 40k. I've done some mods to my 5th gen. and am looking forward to traveling Canada and the US. when I retire in a year or so. Yes, close to 65 and still love the 4Runner as I have for 35yrs. Was waiting for you to be in the company of the 6th gen. after all the speculation on how it would look. Happy the rear window is there and yes the new drive train will need to be proven but think it will surprise and will be a winner with some improved fuel numbers, Cheers!!

[@Michael-kf7gm]

@@AutomotivePress Yea, we can agree to disagree. I think the inside is beautiful. Toyota did a really good job with the new interiors on all their trucks and SUVs. Idk why, but I love the steering wheel. As a younger millennial, I hate the feminine nipple lights on the back…reminds me of a Honda Passport. With the new Land Cruiser being beautiful with its straight lines and the success of the Bronco, I think they missed an opportunity to make it more rugged looking. Maybe it’s a generational thing. Most of my younger friends think it looks like something a masculine woman would drive, akin to a Subaru. That said, I’m so glad they kept the roll-down back window.

[@djpangburn7505]

Yeah the markup on this and the Land Cruiser is going to be $15K in the US. BS

[@mcjogom]

🎉👍💖👍🎉

[@richardoaks3597]

Toyota needs to swap the “TOYOTA” badge to the tail gates of the tundra and Tacoma instead of their model names. Would look way better to see “Toyota” stamped on the tail gates. Tell us more about Toyota’s validation process.

[@luvslogistics1725]

It’s a turbo so it gets hot, wear and tear…it is 4 cylinder, stress on engine moving a heavy car. Look at how u reliable Tundra and Tacoma is…and how marked up, ridiculously overpriced. Sorry Toyota, sayonara…it is time for Mazda and naturally aspirated and not as overpriced but reliable.

[@rickp6391]

i love the 2024, HATE the new 4R and Tacoma. Hard pass on any new toyota. Sad day.

[@JoeBuck-uc3bl]

No

[@jimjones-pz1tt]

Do big Caucasians fit?

[@yeahiknowimcute5830]

No

[@cwcw835]

RIP 2024 for the year Toyota died‼️

[@mrshopaholic90]

The VERY BEST! 🩵

[@BahamianLily]

Still hate the idea of the powertrain (although I-Force MAX sounds appealing). ESP after the massive recalls last August/September. I LOVE the naturally aspirated engine, gas consumption, 17-21 MPG and all! In both my 2001 Blazer and 2023 4Runner Limited.

[@rightlanehog3151]

David, In the last year Toyota promised a 4Runner that would 'go back to its roots'. They gave us a 4 cylinder engine but what about the 2 door version and the manual transmission? 🤔

[@AutomotivePress]

Mike, you know that's not going to happen! But manual transmission would be easy to offer since it's in the new Tacoma.... maybe you can start a forum or petition to ask for a manual!

[@rightlanehog3151]

@@AutomotivePress 😉😉

[@joeschlepp]

the manuals produce less power than the automatics because Toyota de tunes the power trains according to toyota asst head engineer for Tacoma's in USA.

[@Final_Fantasy_7]

A 2-Door 4runner sounds like an awesome idea 😮...I can already picture a 2-door limited 4runner in white that's a cross between a coupe and a SUV omg what an incredible combination that would be....off-road coupe anyone ?

[@nicholasprice7004]

What the heck were they thinking with the back seat leg room!?!? There is no way you can fit a rear facing child seat. Seams like every reviewer hinted that it's actually smaller than the prior generation. HUGE mistake. Tons of moms and dads want these vehicles, but I don't think they are going to be feasible

[@Vox-Populi]

I think Toyota did a good job, considering the limitations they faced regarding emissions, etc.; keeping my 5th gen though.

[@RandomVideosJayson]

Why measuring the gaps when the vehicle frame is twisted for suspension display on a rock? Needs to be measured on a flat level surface for proper trueness

[@RobertOlds.630]

I agree. The 4Runner is a better-looking package than the Land Cruiser.

[@arashefi]

Toyota tried to save lots of money with sharing many stuff in Tacoma, 4Runner, and (baby) Land Cruiser

[@ryanyoder8686]

Wish they would pass some savings to the buyers but these will be 50k+ outside of the base model

[@centermass3454]

How many gallons is the gas tank capacity? Reg. or Premium fuel?

[@stevenm6301]

I've been curious about this too. Nobody has mentioned it yet. Are there any turbos that run on regular gasoline? I'm leaning towards premium for the 6th gen...

[@El_Gato718]

Probably Reg

[@007fjcruiser]

Premium Gasoline and 15.9 gallons

[@centermass3454]

@@007fjcruiser 15.9 gallons is tiny. Cruising range will suffer.

[@007fjcruiser]

@@centermass3454 sorry it is 17.9 gallons,393 to 447 miles range !

[@pireina1]

The most unique part is that it will probably be extremely expensive and it will be marked up, no doubt about it.

[@timbaer8525]

Such a HUGE miss that B pillar forward it’s just a Tacoma!!!! If I wanted a tacoma, I’d buy a Tacoma! I’m a 5G 4R owner but I see the LC as my next, 4R’s had been somewhat rare and unique in the world of SUV’s but doubling what looks just like it making it a suv Tacoma takes that’s away

[@sultanniazi2394]

Best part to know is that it will be unaffordable for most of us. 😢

[@andyerwin3535]

People that buy Toyotas do not care about how much hp and torque, people buy Toyotas because they last and go forever, 300k engines. It’s extremely doughy fuel that this new engine will even go 100 k miles. Thank you Toyota, my 2018 and 2023 4 runner just became much more valuable. This 4 cylinder abomination of an engine could put Toyota in a coffin

[@jrzez]

The NUMBER 1 thing you NEED to know about this new 4Runner is that it will be INSANELY overpriced. Imagine paying $65k for a trailhunter 4Runner lol. Insane.

[@notoriousd2597]

Dude “ there is no movement” and goes to grab the grab handle and moves bad 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@P7064G]

Where did the 40/20/40 second row seats go? Will hang on to the 5th gen as long as possible now. Cant have two mandatory kid seats mounted and carry a 2x4 or skis.

[@rightlanehog3151]

I have been asking that question a lot lately. The new Land Cruiser won't have 40/20/40 rear seats either. The new Crown Signia, which seems to be custom built for families who ski, lacks that feature as well. Cost cutting is hitting us everywhere as they keep dropping useful features. The cheapest 3rd generation RAV4 had sliding 40/20/40 rear seats.

[@scottpalmer1023]

Any chance David can assess and provide this level of feedback on my current life?!? 🙃

[@JoBiatch]

According to his measuring stick, your 🍆 is 2.7mm.

[@kmckenzie2461]

I am in love with the green 4 runner. Wow. Love the blue one too but that green with the bigger fender flares and dark gold wheels its so unique and tugged looking wow.

[@dudeski934]

Why would the Land Cruiser cost more than the 4 runner and Tacoma they are all the same thing just different bodies. Same engine/ transmission

[@marksmalley6739]

What is the estimated MPG numbers with the hybrid system? Will they, like the Tundra use the hybrid motor just to enhance towing or to improve MPG’s?

[@theblueberryBULLET]

I expect it to be almost the exact same as the Tacoma now. The focus seems to be more power, with the benefit that instead of consuming more fuel, it actually saves a couple mpg. I went with the gas 4th gen Taco and with about 500km on the odo I got a proper 23 mpg or just over 10L/100km on a trip to my parents which was about 80km. It’s a lot better than my wrangler with the 3.6 and 8 speed got, so I’m happy.

[@dioralcide8490]

TRD Pro is the better looking

[@proman6650]

I’m keeping my 23 4Runner ORP, until I retire.Which will probably be around 2031.By then we should have a good idea ,how reliable these turbo and hybrid powertrains are! Then I’ll decide if I want to buy a Landcruiser or a GX 550

[@snowlothar45]

A lot of my decision to buy will be the price. I can't the more complex engine, transmission and electronics not having a price jump.

[@douginorlando6260]

Comparing to 2024 4 runner without 3rd seat, is 5th gen without 3rd seat non hybrid the same cargo volume as before? Is the driver’s eye point height above the pavement the same as before? (Higher is better). All these years, I NEVER regretted buying my 4Runner … and many reasons I like it, I want it, I need it.

[@mwdeters]

While I can appreciate the need to cost cut, standardizing platforms and interiors stifles creative designs. I'd rather the trucks and SUV's not look so similar. Still Toyota quality but generic looks.

[@cezarymazur7719]

Question is, how much Toyota will ask for them ? Overpriced like Tacoma ?

[@jesseb5985]

Is the Everest color only available for trail hunter? I’d want to get it for my trd off road that I reserved.

[@robertf3340]

If you covered it I apologize as I missed it but don’t happen to know of the front seating has more legroom and more space than the older gen? Thanks

[@syyigit]

Front definitely needs redesign. If they wanted to keep this generation long enough for them. They still have time. My opinion new cars front suppose to be removable that attach easily to the main frame. And the grill definitely has to get influence from nature. Like leave, honeycomb, spiderwebs etc….

[@JoBiatch]

I’m finding it difficult to justify upgrading from 5th Gen based on looks alone. I don’t like the double mustache front and the back looks too similar to 5th Gen. Also don’t like that interior is exactly copy of Tacoma.

[@blakeantos1301]

A 4Runner with the GX powertrain would be perfect.

[@fireandfat]

Taco in the front, LC in the back, ain’t nothin wrong with that!

[@steffenworldcitizensurf5926]

I’m kool with it.

[@flyguy2021]

I’ll probably wait a couple of years for the bugs to be worked out and run my 4th gen to 300K.

[@kemosabe5120]

Is the snorkel functional for water crossing? I've heard it's just for dust.

[@agame831]

Should I trade my 2023 for the new body?

[@Jawnderlust]

The wheels on the trail hunter are hot

[@garyclark6747]

Awesome review David‼️ 16:08

[@christianalvarezcrivellaro9185]

Nice review! Loving the 6th gen! Something to add here about the front Bumper/grill design. if you go back and look at 3rdgen post facelift ("fatlip") it also has the double handlebar mustache design....Awesome!

[@thomasr.1bad21ultra9]

Great job David the videos only get better. So before I looked at the Trail Hunter I was all set to go with a TRD Off Road Road Pro. Now this get interesting the upcoming videos a few months from now will tell us a lot more. Interesting choice though are they still going to offer the Off Road Pro? I probably missed it

[@lou135]

Got to see it in person at Toyota Jamboree last weekend. I did not think I would like it, but the pro looked REALLY good. Still not sure on legroom or cargo space with the batteries, etc, but will definitely take a long look when it becomes a bit more available to get in and stuff. Also heard a rumor that it would be about 69k US for pro or trailhunter.

[@joeschlepp]

these are pre production vehicles that are likely made to be scrutinized with a magnifying glass. production models won't be as perfect. it's a taco with enclosed rear for manufacturing cost savings. all now share same platform and design.. no more KDSS on lower trims😢 they all come with the third row capability thus the tumbling second row seats so you can't get flat rear cargo space😢 fuel consumption won't be better on non hybrid models over the old v6 but the the poor little 4 banger will have to work almost twice as hard to satisfy govt emissions standards.😢