The M11 Motorway's Bridge Over Nothing... What's The Point?

[@TheRip72]

"Lessons have been learned so such things will never be repeated" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@fredbailey2076]

You recon

[@steverax3497]

Cough 1 billion spent on planning for the LTC that has had its decision delayed again until next year....

[@hectorshouse7348]

We know how the public get scammed…the fanatics pay an ‘expert’ to say whatever they want, and the dummies (cannon fodder) believe them. Yay

[@jaras1969]

They learned Alright.... to try it again somewhere else. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@David_Crayford]

Hmm. Seems its not just cold war tank tactics that could take lessons from recent world experience.

[@YetAnotherGeorgeth]

Welcome to England, where we start great proj

[@t.kersten7695]

i wonder if such british projects take as much time as big governmental projects over here in Germany - massive increases in costs and downgrades to the original plans included.

[@YetAnotherGeorgeth]

@@t.kersten7695 no, that sounds like HS2!

[@beeble2003]

I see what you did, th

[@ArchiveRoobarb]

More pilots than BA

[@xr6lad]

Where we whinge we were once world leaders (rose coloured glasses about the past) yet when we try to start or build much needed infrastructure to give us quality things to keep up (eg high speed rail that every other major European country has) the tree of NIMBYs comes out.

[@stephenfoster7257]

However, the result is a vast open space beneath the junction safe from the danger of traffic. What a bonus.!

[@miguelcardoso1903]

Could be a beautiful park with a nice shade area.

[@t.kersten7695]

at least animals could use that "mystery bridge" to cross underneath the motorway from one side to another

[@pete_lind]

If it was not in city . Here in Finland that type Animal ways would be great , so. moose dont need to run over road Also between two hills so lorries dont need blast 120km/h in winter downhill to get uphill and when on top only have 30km/h speed left . Main roads build after 1970s are pretty even , but old main roads are narrow and nasty.

[@guyfrostdesire]

Or for cars to cross over animal territory.

[@dappermuis5002]

This was my first thought when I saw nothing under it. Allowing animals a 'green' corridor to safely get across major roads without endangering motorists or animals getting killed or injured.

[@jimbotron70]

​@@dappermuis5002I don't think it was in their minds...

[@neilbain8736]

It's left a nice bit of park land below so maybe that's something.

[@alantheskinhead]

We used to walk the dog there!

[@Tom_Hadler]

Indeed. It's much more navigable by foot than it would otherwise have been. And thank goodness they didn't ruin London with the ringways. I wonder if the M25 was one of them?

[@quantisedspace7047]

This bridge isn't "over nothing" as you can clearly walk underneath it. It's probably cheaper than an embankment.

[@tobymcnicol922]

it's so I can ride by bike under it on the way to marvel at other bits of post-industrial hinterland....

[@solanum.]

@@Tom_Hadleriirc the M25 is basically the bits of ringways that they did build before cancelling the project, as when they cancelled it they just connected together what they’d already made giving us the M25

[@markiliff]

1:04 Jon: Back to the studio 1:05 Jon: Thanks It's exquisite filligree like this that makes this channel unbeatable.

[@MostlyLoveOfMusic]

Filigree is an underused word... Shame most people don't know what it means

[@markiliff]

@@MostlyLoveOfMusic 8-⌇

[@MontyBarrington]

@@MostlyLoveOfMusic Indubitably

[@RustyPetterson]

That was hilarious, yes, but the funniest thing about is imagining the planning that must have gone into it lol.

[@I-Love-Taylor-Swift]

You will also get stuff like that on Map Men's channel

[@janhenkins]

"... never be repeated ..." What a quaint thought, eh? We never learn here in the UK. Great video Jon! 🙂

[@ynot6473]

did you notice Jon nearly crack, check the poorly concealed smirk!

[@janhenkins]

@@ynot6473 Oh yes I did. Jon is all about the subtle stuff.

[@wrichard11]

There's something called the sunk costs fallacy. You'll never get back what you've already spent but that's a lot less than fulfilling the project. So it really is cheaper to cancel. Now... what did I do with HS2..

[@justaguycalledjosh]

​@@wrichard11 There's also something called the "Knocking down the half-assed bodge to build it properly" cost fallacy. It's not like the problems that HS2 solves are going to magically disappear. They just said "Fuck it, we're not getting re-elected, so let's make a huge fucking mess for the next government."

[@wrichard11]

@@justaguycalledjosh Cuts 20 minutes off a trip to Birmingham? Have they not heard of Zoom?

[@soupermanz]

I believe the original plan for the unbuilt section was also to be a raised motorway like the M4 in West London. In the end they "cut" the A12 extension thru to Hackney, but still demolished a lot of houses. I actually like the fact that this slip road was left raised, so the ground to the River Roding can be accessed by wildlife and pedestrians. Better than inaccessible "islands".

[@Kmc1qlAq8Dt6tpVC]

Yeah, the M11 was supposed to run above a 6 lane A12, an extension to the Eastern Avenue, at certain points traffic could switch between the two roads. The A12 from Wanstead to Bow is still basically a motorway, and some sections of that were originally (the A102 (M)) . They should have made free flowing slip roads from the M11 onto the A12 westbound, bypassing the North Circular and Redbridge Roundabout

[@soyebaswat5382]

​@@Kmc1qlAq8Dt6tpVC the bend at hackney wick is decidedly not motorway spec, but the rest is a high quality and capacity dual carriageway.

[@Kmc1qlAq8Dt6tpVC]

@@soyebaswat5382 that's because that was built in the sixties, some thirty years before the wanstead to Stratford section.

[@RafaquaQuetta]

Etudiant d la peripherique du Paris

[@MrMWRMWR]

​@@Kmc1qlAq8Dt6tpVCthey should indeed ...though the traffic wouldn't be exiting fast wherever it ended except between 01:00-04:00.

[@markoarkaina8656]

The editing on this channel is so underrated.

[@roderickmain9697]

"big infrastructure projects that get started but never completed".....Hmmm. Yeah. seems like we learned that one (HS2 )

[@jfwfreo]

How many infrastructure projects have been canceled when someone goes "we are running a little short of money so we have to cut this down and only build the cheap bits"?

[@mikehindson-evans159]

@@jfwfreo Or, in the case of HS2, after building the REALLY expensive bits to keep the NIMBY squad quiet...?

[@granddadmark7639]

Loved the old movie tone office clip 😅😅😅😅

[@janhenkins]

Yep, it has the exact "RP-on-a-stick" sound everything had back then.

[@flipper2392]

I thought it was Mr Cholmondley Warner.

[@paulknight5018]

@@flipper2392 "women know your place!"

[@sarkybugger5009]

@@paulknight5018 And your limitations. 😉

[@jasonbennett7002]

The "one moment chaps .." splice was inspired. Keeping it fresh.

[@qingyangzhang6093]

My father used to be an auditor of several road and bridge projects in China. On some of the projects he examined, there are stretches of dozens of miles of elevated motorways and high speed rail on perfectly flat rural land. According to him, there are two main reasons. One is that maintenance would be paradoxically easier, because the amount of subsidence due to the vehicles' weight would be much more predictable, especially on peaty lands. The second is that there is a much lower natural limit to cutting corners when building bridges.

[@ironchin17]

Can you please explain your second point further?

[@Zahrul3]

​@@ironchin17 bridges in China are prefabricated so it can be QC'ed long before its ever installed

[@yankees4551]

South of France. Long bridges like these. Great. Because sometimes it rains.... It will flood all.

[@scotbotvideos]

Unpopular opinion: all extra-urban roads should be built like this.

[@jsmith498]

I agree. It preserves green spaces.

[@johnscanlon8467]

Only because pylons are cheaper than tunnels.

[@rylandrc]

​@@johnscanlon8467"You must construct additional pylons"

[@dananskidolf]

I think the noise spreads a lot further when it's elevated. But Tokyo has elevated highways with high walls on, which could make up for this downside.

[@Kai...999]

Why? I'm genuinely curious because I'm not seeing any benefits. Aside from animals crossing...

[@christopherdean1326]

I used to live just up the road from this bit of the M11. Made for a relatively quiet place to walk on a nice day.

[@NooBiker]

I'm a local and use this slip road quite often, to/from the A12/A406. Thanks for the insight.

[@lawrenceshackman9230]

When I was a boy (rather a long time ago now) I was keen on becoming a civil engineer and luckily my sisters friends dad was the lighting engineer responsible for the lighting for J4. He took me on a trip there back in the day ( let me turn all the lights on and off😀) and showed me the plans for the completed junction! Well they were amazing! if built would have certainly challenged spaghetti junction in terms of scale and complexity. M12, M15 slip roads and viaducts everywhere. Shame I wasn’t given a copy of the plan as I would have shared it here…. And yes I did become a civil engineer….. Great vid as always John!!

[@michaelwoffindin]

I saw at 1:21 junction 4 was going to connect to the A406. Which I think was going to be ring road 3 on the map earlier in the video. Riding or driving along the A406 is so bizarre at certain points. You can tell they demolished parts of neighborhoods to implement it and so it's practically on some peoples door steps. It must be a nightmare trying to park or leave your own driveway, let alone live there with all that noise and carbon. Fucking diabolical.

[@beeble2003]

The carbon isn't really a problem on the local scale. It's all the other pollutants that hurt people nearby, particularly the nitrogen oxides, particulates (basically, engine soot) and dust.

[@leopold7562]

Yep, that's exactly right. The North Circular was even widened to 3 lanes in anticipation of this happening and the only bits that weren't done were the junction at Arnos Grove and the blue signs everywhere. I think there were supposed to be more houses taken out around bits of it as well, but since the ringways were never implemented, they got left there. And yes, it looks like a nightmare

[@rednammoc]

North Circular & South Circular were to be replaced by Ringway 2, and the A406 was actually built in the 1920s through what was partly open land at the time, but of course not to motorway standards as they didn't exist then. As it was just a normal road, it had no restrictions on property accesses (driveways etc) or the like, and with traffic being much less and slower it would have been far more acceptable at the time. You do realise that a lot has changed over 100 years, right?

[@pyoung168]

Interesting situation and I have no doubt in your reasonings. Here in the US over the past decade or so major road construction has taken into account natural habitat movement (feeding, water and migratory) routes for wildlife. So in newer road construction it is not unusual to see occasional elevated sections apparently over open land.

[@davidmilne5122]

“Of course, lessons have been learnt “Eloquent sarcasm at its best. Plus excellent editing too. Thanks Jon!

[@garycook5071]

I love the little piece of the M12 on the southbound M11 as it approaches the A406

[@leebanthorpe3100]

If you blink, you miss it. I'd seen it since I was a kid, but didn't know what it was doing there until I discovered Auto Shenanigans 😊

[@georgethomas7814]

longest 4mins in my life and there are so many more things like this. Thank you for taking the time to put this into words. Its better than watching a train crash..

[@Cypher791]

“Shall we just not bother?”…. 🧐 So inspiring..

[@rwm2986]

Nice video John - but I would have thought that the 'Bridge Over Nothing' was built because they (whoever they are) knew that you would want to make a video about it!

[@DW-indeed]

Presumably if there had been a river under it, it would have been a troubled bridge over water...

[@nickbarber2080]

There is...the River Roding...get your signwriting kit ready....

[@binarydinosaurs]

Well, there we go. Having driven that stretch for nearly 20 years I finally discover why it was built like that. Nice one Jon, button for liking this very much clicked.

[@PrinceJohn84]

3:18 Heard that one before 😂

[@nidostar2013]

Well done Jon. I see you’ve made it into this morning’s Daily Express on-line with this.

[@allymac1314]

These get better every week. Top effort sir!

[@RogerNorman-q6x]

'Lessons learnt will never be repeated' ... now there's a poignant statement given the ongoing situation with HS2 north of Birmingham! We never learn other than how to waste billions of pounds

[@brokengirl248]

Really enjoy these midweek uplaods

[@spamhead]

A shame there aren’t more pointless bridges, we would have far less dead wildlife on the roads.

[@SierraNovemberKilo]

Sadly, I can tell you from experience the raised (bridge-like) sections of the A406 and parts of the raised M11 attract wildlife that has nowhere to go to escape vehicles. Families of foxes get run over regularly...you see one body, space, another body, space, another body. Its really heart renching seeing it.

[@realalbertan]

We have built wildlife overpass bridges over here near Banff🇨🇦

[@automation7295]

People: **Don't like pointless bridges** Also people: **Wants more pointless bridges for wildlife. I guess you never heard or see wildlife overpasses above motorways?

[@spamhead]

@ Sadly in the UK there are very, very few. Wildlife and nature are victims of our desire for high speed transport, which invariably ends up slowing to a crawl after a few years.

[@JohnArktor]

You of course do understand that there are multiple people... do you? ​@@automation7295

[@JoannaHiggins-nr1ky]

The work you put in shows!

[@GS-lu2zu]

Spam.

[@kempshott]

Used to live nearby as a kid. There was an infamous Gatso speed camera on the southbound M11 just after the 50mph limit started -supposedly the biggest earner in the country.

[@pbsa1979]

still there, still making loads, it is like a disco light sometimes...

[@flipper2392]

And a camera van used to park about 500 yards away to catch those who put their toe down once they passed it.

[@CheeseAlarm]

One thing I've noticed is that the Southbound 50 limit coming in to London is widely observed. But Northbound, on the parallel section of bridge over nothing it is widely ignored. Maybe that camera works? 😊

[@pbsa1979]

There is a camera as you drive down the flyover above Redbridge roundabout, guess they decided not much point trying to enforce 50mph passed the point 406 and M11. It does make sense to enforce southbound as rest of 406 is 50mph​@@CheeseAlarm

[@-Lucky-Six-]

i thought you had just finished a stage on "Outrun" at the end

[@David_Crayford]

I knew it had to be another racing game.

[@aegisofhonor]

Map Men did a great video talking about "The Ring", what was built, what wasn't, what parts were partly completed, and remanence of canceled road projects.

[@RichardMigneron]

"... at least in England they do !", well lad, not only in England, in Quebec TOO, we are currently witnessing the construction of the remaining highway 19 north of Montreal, a mere .... wait for it .... 45 years after the initial project had finished it's first part !

[@Andrew-z6i]

Never repeated if we don't mention HS2😅

[@GaryB007]

So good that we never make tHoS2 mistakes any more.

[@HarryParkin]

The funny thing is HS2 actually has more of a purpose!

[@rednammoc]

Overly costly yes, a mistake - no. Allocating ever more time, space and money on roads for private transport is less efficient & effective than on rail/road for mass transport, and there's few people today criticising the massive (and yes at times duplicate and wasteful) investments that were made into our railways a long time ago. The extra track capacity of HS2 is far from a waste, but the way it is being delivered, misinformation and political uncertainty generates needless waste.

[@90vanman]

There is a similar cock-up on the Essex side of the Dartford bridge, it does seem in wet seasons to have rivulets running beneath it, causes all sorts of grief to the horses and other animals living under it.

[@JohnSmithShields]

Lovely dig at HS2 at the end.

[@fetchstixRHD]

Heh, nice pun 😂

[@hairyairey]

Let's see what happens to the Euston terminus. It's going to need more than 6 HS2 platforms.

[@aaronsmith9209]

I've walked through that field which is apart of Roding Valley Park and it's a very strange place. The scale of the junction is ridiculous, just like the similarly half built Staples Corner. As for that last part of the video, I don't think we've learned a thing when it comes to infrastructure of any kind lol.

[@orwellboy1958]

"Back to the studio", now where have I heard that before🤔

[@martindoe6099]

Another M11 related bridge over nothing. Where it crosses Chigwell Road, to the west of the M11 is a bridge over the River Roding. Immediately to the east is a bridge over nothing where the river used to flow before it was rerouted for the motorway build.

[@glenmcinnes4824]

It's England I thought it was for Counter Flooding measures, in my part of the world we have elevated roads meant to keep transport going through the area during once in a century floods (that today happen every 10-20 years), but the Government has since opened up the surrounding land to Housing and Industrial Developments without explaining what the elevated roadways are for.

[@JimmiCottam]

Huh, Cambridge is in Cambridge. I need to write that down...

[@SierraNovemberKilo]

Yeah. It was really hard to place it before he told us that. Top marks for geography.

[@JimmiCottam]

@@randomuser-xc2wr huh, so Cambridge isn't in Cambridge? I need to write that down too

[@MrPabsUk]

This was in my recommendeds, & I`m glad it was! As a fairly local-ish A406 user who`s a car lover & a local history freak, I found it interesting! I`ll have to check out your other vids.. Subscribed!

[@paulsengupta971]

That takes me back. I used to live there. I was in the Queen Mary College university halls tower blocks overlooking that junction for two years.

[@londonlore5881]

Another blinding video Jon, and a great end to my day. Yet again on the M11, and I love hearing the stories about how our motorways were planned and built and the cockups / compromises that ensued - how the project cancellers laughed! 😂🥺 I tried to Shazam that tune you used at the end of the video, but have had no luck 🍀.

[@parakart]

3:28 yeah, I’m sure too 😮

[@lloydwright3661]

I grew up a stones throw from this bridge over nothing and im glad they did it like that because it would have been a major inconvenience if it was at ground level. Cool video though, I had never really questioned why they built it the way they did.

[@christtrockministeries5542]

I will give an alternative possible explanation, as i, originally came from that area nearby. This road follows course of River Rodding, an there is part near a road, i think they called Broadmead Road, an quite of this river would flood, an of course with destination of that river being River Thames, that is tidal, could mean water being pushed up River Rodding, so perhaps this bridge was designed to over come flooding, as there-was also a feild next to Broadmead road, that flooded, but ofcourse they still allowed permission to build houses there. 16 to 11 pm gmt.

[@Mw9d-m8n]

I was born 800m from that bridge and can remember them building the M11 through there when I was about six or seven. There were a number of protests about the proposed M12 route. The Roding has always flooded along Chigwell Road, occasionally threatening houses and submerging low lying gardens. My mum remembers 1947, I remember the mid 70s (an M11 related construction issue caused that flood),, 1981 and the early 2000s but the water never got far enough or deep enough to trouble that bit of land.

[@grandaddyoe1434]

Thirty years ago, there was a period during which that slip road from the northbound A406 was deliberately reduced from two lanes to one - massive back-ups and delays occurred before it was re-instated.

[@EricHunt]

I thought I knew the answer to this before I clicked - why of course it must be going over a floodplain that's dry almost all the time. But the real answer was much more fascinating! We have similar partially constructed freeway interchanges here in the USA, but mostly to connect to further phases of the roadway that have not yet been built or have been canceled.

[@harrygardner1525]

There's another 'Bridge Over Nothing' located just east of Jct 27 of the M6 & north of Wigan. It carries the A5209 (Almond Brook Road) over what is now (& always has been) a vast expanse of land wide enough for a dual carriageway to pass beneath. Had this finally come to fruition it would have been part of the Wigan northern link road network, a network that would have seen two new link roads connecting parts of the Wigan area to Jct 27 of the M6 at Standish. I understand that it would have been something of a "Y" network with the left part of the Y forming a bypass for Standish linking up with the A49 at the Boar's Head roundabout with the A5106. The right part of the Y would have branched off to run somewhere behind Shevington High School, passing by Elnup Wood, Crooke, to eventually link up on Scot Lane at Martland Mill. Three other pieces of infrastructure were actually built in the Martland Mill area as part of the advance works for the Wigan northern link road project & these are still in use to this day. These are.. A bridge to carry a new alignment of Scot Lane over the Leeds & Liverpool canal A bridge to carry a new alignment of Scot Lane over the River Douglas A railway bridge that carries the Wigan to Southport railway line over a new alignment of Scot Lane At least two of these bridges (the River Douglas bridge & the railway bridge) were built wider than the roads that they currently accommodate & that is because they were originally earmarked to part of a link road that never came to be. wiganworld.co.uk/album/photo.php?opt=5&id=20273&gallery=Standish&offset=80

[@FatherDraven]

I never played a lot of racing games but my best mate did growing up and that outro music lit up my brain like a Christmas tree remembering hours of him in the menus fiddling with his cars.

[@rbearne1]

Nice work with the duration of this video, very fitting.

[@DJLemsip]

I've lived in Cambridge and London and gone over this road lots and have wondered why this was there. I'd always assumed it was boggy land or similar - now I know.

[@ianhl7174]

I often wondered why we had M1M2 etc but some numbers were missing? Now I think I have part of the answer!

[@tobyjackman3212]

This is the best *video* I've ever seen about anything

[@minibus9]

awesome video, these videos should be required viewing for people who want to do road planning as a job

[@seanohalloran0]

I do wish they'd at least built a free flowing slip between the southbound m11 and southbound a12. Redbridge roundabout is torture at the best of times.

[@skylarius3757]

true, but at least there are two lanes for turning right onto the a12. Some people don't realise this and queue in 1 lane then cut in on the roundabout.

[@soyebaswat5382]

Redbridge roundabout is great turning right onto the a12. Lovely bend with interesting camber, lots of run-off in case of mistakes, and a satisfying left turn as you exit onto the a12. It's great on both 2 wheels and 4

[@SierraNovemberKilo]

​@@skylarius3757The vast majority of drivers don't seem to know where they are at that roundabout. Whatever lane you're in you'll get cut up on both near and driver sides by late decisions of non-indicating panicked/aggressive or doddery drivers. Its a real merry-go-round.

[@craigsibley8161]

Ha ha ha the black and white bit was quality 😂😂😂

[@djctube]

Not quite. The bridge has always carried the M11. The M12 was supposed to dive under where you were stood. There are also a set of never-used stubs further towards the A406 where the M12 was supposed to join the junction. Fun fact, this bridge is the reason why the southbound M11 has a bottleneck that causes complete gridlock every morning. 3 lanes go down to 2 for the bridge and it’s not possible to widen it without completely demolishing and rebuilding. All because of cancelled project several decades ago.

[@MrFunreal]

I remember that brazil (i think) made a bridge, and then they built a river underneath it to warrant the construction of the bridge to begin with. Which is wild.

[@alanhat5252]

If the adjoining projects had been completed would the wonderful pirouetting ferries to Woolwich have been replaced by roads?

[@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain]

Another great and informative video Jon.

[@simonochana3189]

Correct me if I’m wrong please, but I always thought that the M11 was officially opened on 14th April 1977. One staring point was at South Woodford and the other was at Redbridge Roundabout, by the Tube Station. That is until around 1989 when that stretch became the A406

[@CheshireTomcat68]

Well done getting Mr. Hartley-Fozzington to do the voice over in black and white.

[@artemkatelnytskyi]

Numbering exits with mile markers is the superior method.

[@RS-pb2se]

I’m not a massive supporter of road building, but a direct connection from the M11 to the A12 towards Hackney Wick would be pretty useful and would save navigating the Redbridge roundabout bottleneck. There is just about the space to build a bypass at Redbridge on the unlikely chance one was built.

[@trickygoose2]

As someone who's involved on athletics the southbound bridge user to give a good view of the Ashton Playing Fields running track just to the east. There's a lot more screening now.

[@KravKernow]

I just love the composition on your shots. You have a great eye. Could I trouble you as to what camera and mic setup you use?

[@memofromessex]

Thanks. That junction has always been a mystery.

[@InverhavonRailways]

There's a bridge section of the A20 near Folkestone that runs over an apparently empty space, but this one's there to bridge a cut and cover section of the Channel Tunnel close to the Folkestone terminal. The tunnels wouldn't have supported the weight of an embankment, so not so silly as it appears.

[@capnsparkle]

Vid about the A406 interchange is 4.06 mins long I see what you did there Jon - Sweet

[@geoffreylee5199]

Cheaper than moving lots of dirt.

[@beeble2003]

TBH, it's probably good that there's all that "wasted" space with trees and things in it, rather than a more compact junction that's appropriate to its purpose, and the city jammed up against it.

[@KallistiUK]

Yayy, saw my old flat by the side of that junction near to the infamous Charlie Brown Roubdabout! I was a student at Queen Mary College in the late 70s, early 80s and lived in one of 3 tower blocks that overlooked the junction between the North Circular and M11, it was endless entertainment watching the clueles drivers end up on the wrong bit and try out dangerous manoevers to get back to the right bit...

[@ianreynolds9733]

The M11 is a farce oh a motorway, most of it is a duel carriageway especially in north Essex and Cambridgeshire. Almost as bad as the A12, a major trunk road that feeds the ports on the east coast but has roundabouts and single lanes! Rant over, keep up the great work fella!

[@martindoe6099]

The whole of the M11 is a dual carriageway. Parts are three lane carriageway, others two lane, but it is all dual carriageway.

[@capcompass9298]

Perusing the A-Z around the turn of the century, I wondered why they didn't build a spur from the North Circular to the M11 northbound. When I drove past, I noticed high tension powerlines in the way (PROBABLY those in frames 1:40, 2:36, and 3:10 in the video. I haven't been back since so don't know what it looks like now.

[@johnnymacf1]

2:44 was ace 😂

[@mdrdprtcl]

“Should we not bother?” 😂

[@gholmes182]

Brilliant reportage. Nice style.

[@Original50]

Love the news-reporter hand-overs! Could imagine this as a 'Nonsense Newsflash' in episodes, where costly, inconvenient and/or embarrassing projects are shared. Can't get enough sarcasm. 😏

[@djtrainspotter]

Looking rather dapper there sir in your new attire hehe. . . Ooo thats such a lovely junction, the charlie brown roundabout, choas sometimes! Nice skyline shots there too.

[@shaun30-3-mg9zs]

Good video Jon

[@stevekelly5166]

What is needed below is some, Troubled Waters. That bridge is said to have inspired Simon and Garfunkel when they saw the first plans.

[@prendoso]

Excellent - as always!

[@ShiresMatt]

You could say the exact same thing about spaghetti junction and the M6 viaduct at Junction six. There were other options, such as building an embankment and building the road on it, but no, they chose to build it on columns. Which needs all year round maintenance.

[@beeble2003]

At that point, the M6 has to get over the River Tame, the Birmingham and Fazeley Canal, the Tame Valley Canal, the Grand Union Canal, and the Birmingham to Sutton Coldfield Railway Line. It also has to interchange with the A38 and the A5127, so even if the M6 didn't go over both of those, one of the three roads would have to be on the top. So it's not remotely comparable to M11 J4.

[@musgawp]

Can you come west a bit and explain the numbering of the A417/A419 from Swindon to Ledbury. And if the sun’s out you’ll enjoy the beautiful parkland through Redmarley past The Monument, I hope.

[@joshravnn]

Love the recent uploads. Any plans in the near future to venture further up north with this series? Would be good to have a few videos for us northerners.

[@davidbower642]

if you look at the A643 in Leeds near Brown Lane there's a tunnel for the A643 with just a footpath over it. i often wonder if something more elaborate was meant to go over it

[@carosel43]

Ringways was batshit crazy so i can see why it was binned off. However, had it gone ahead things today might be far better than the current m25 carpark we are left with.

[@johnclements6614]

We would have had more car parking.

[@TwoWholeWorms]

Indeed. There'd be four circular linear car parks instead of one. o.o

[@carosel43]

@@TwoWholeWorms I don think so,. With 4 times the capacity it could only be better...assuming they didnt half arse it

[@ChrisBeevor0511]

You should take a look at the slip roads to nowhere in Beckton, East London. I believe they were meant for something called the London Gateway Crossing that never happened

[@tsepheletseka5115]

You only have to look to the interstate highway system in the US to see that it's probably a blessing in disguise that it was never completed.

[@urbanrider429]

I’m glad you cleared that up 🫣🫣🫣🫣

[@miriamlana833]

Many bridges over nothing like this in Germany, only smaller and mostly not so obvious, there have also been big plans once that had been cancelled later.

[@chrisholland5965]

It's like a red dwarf episode imaging what life could have been like if all these roads were actually built.....

[@SlimHandle]

That final song is far too calming for driving in London 😅