Bring back physical media + climate controls, ditch those piano black inserts surrounding the digit gadgets, seriously, looks horrible. The hell with piano black high gloss plastic inserts... Also, please bring back buttons/knobs for lighting too, and we are where we were left of with 7.5...
@jimpackard80595 күн бұрын
Totally agree
@senna56073 күн бұрын
Absolutely true
@pw35915 күн бұрын
My Golf 7 has a big knob that I turn the fan up and down with. Why should I have to go into menus to do something as simple as that, it's absolutely mental, and yes dangerous !!
@jimpackard80595 күн бұрын
It is cost cutting
@PhD634 күн бұрын
@@jimpackard8059Cost cutting, but the cost of new vehicles just keep going up and up.
@hamtaroyt2 күн бұрын
Looks ugly and clunky. But should not be removed but redesigned.
@reanult4576 сағат бұрын
Same with my 7.5
@jimpackard80595 күн бұрын
This is a wonderful review and should be shown to the bosses at VW. She gets it spot on. Those stupid slide controls and the heater controls via the screen are crap and loads of Golf people do nor want that on their car. VW - for flips sake , listen !
@Sto79Be3 күн бұрын
She changed her tune after she mentioned they’re now backlit though. Whoopee-doo! 🙄
@hamtaroyt2 күн бұрын
I like the slide controls. Although I do wish there was an easier way to change the fan speed.
@alexandrem64295 күн бұрын
I Will wait until the climate controls returns to physical controls!
@hamtaroyt2 күн бұрын
I mean, if you want to just stick with older cars it is up to you.
@timjenkins85385 күн бұрын
No one asked for illuminated badges or chat GPT! We just wanted a good car for a decent price
@hamtaroyt2 күн бұрын
I agree, I don't want the car to be seen as a Volkswagen driving advertisement, but that's just my minimalist approach. Chat GPT could be interesting but they are putting efforts into other things that really should be the last thing they need to look into.
@hasanaktas69295 күн бұрын
What makes me think is that using the phone whilst driving is illegal but using that screen is not illegal? Has the same user interface and features like a phone The government has to clarify that
@biafo45415 күн бұрын
Absolutely, it may even be more hazardous. On a less important note, I'm yet to see a dashboard with a tablet stuck on the dash that looks good. Once a car gets to this price there must be a function where you can press a button and the screen folds out of sight.
@phuketexplorer4 күн бұрын
Bye bye Tesla, if the government included car screens
@tajulislam15223 күн бұрын
Any infortainment system is allowed to be used whilst driving but the law states if it affects your driving, then you could potentially be breaking the law. So if there's a Police car behind you and you're trying change the radio whilst swerving lanes, then that could lead you to prosecution. Otherwise, you're perfectly allowed to use a built-in infortainment system so long it's not distracting you from your driving.
@hamtaroyt2 күн бұрын
Phones are made to be distracting, the infotainment isn't. So really this argument makes no sense.
@witnesspropro2 күн бұрын
@@hamtaroyt Yet it still is distracting. Finding a button or knob on the dashboard without looking is still safer and less distracting than tapping menus and icons on a touchscreen. It's really not complicated (althoughit does appear to be too complicated for car manufacturers to understand).
@andreiarama87455 күн бұрын
I hate two things about it : no volume and climate knobs and THE PRICE! Let's not forget that underneath it's still a Golf 7. And why no mild hybrid manual? Because VW are cheap bastards
@jimpackard80595 күн бұрын
Correct. Crap controls
@Ren_11065 күн бұрын
that's correct bro 😢
@darkbassi59114 күн бұрын
Don't all hybrids need to be auto 🤔
@andreiarama87454 күн бұрын
@@darkbassi5911 this is a shitty mild hybrid not a full hybrid. Ford Puma, Focus and Kia Sportage are all mild hybrid with manual gearbox or automatic just to give some examples. But I think that VW only does mild hybrid with auto so they can charge a few thousands more. Saying that probably it is more efficient with automatic
@okeoke46974 күн бұрын
@@andreiarama8745 volume controls are literally on the steering wheel, for climate control you just have either to slide, touch, or use the vocal assistant - all solutions are ALWAYS available regardless what you're doing. If you want to change stuff surely it gets more "complicated", but I personally don't touch my clim all day long. I'm used to this kind of stuff most probably, but it's not that big of a deal. Get a car for reliability first above all.
@jabbarcorrales5 күн бұрын
the a/c sliders alone guaranteed I will never own this car.
@hamtaroyt2 күн бұрын
It's a small sacrifice for a perfect car, but if you're not into tech, it is clearly not for you. Just say that instead, you're not into tech and move on. Stay with older cars.
@AshlynnCairns5 күн бұрын
Gotta say, I didn’t see that coming! Totally surprised me.
@iCozzh5 күн бұрын
Calling a golf surprising is moronic haha
@zxlrxsyxd5 күн бұрын
@@iCozzh replying to a bot is even more moronic
@wltdo69305 күн бұрын
Unless that was just a heavy dose of sarcasm from OP
@yissibiiyte5 күн бұрын
They got rid of (some of) the capacitive nonsense and finally gave it more power than the 7.5. Basically what the 8 should have been from the very start.
@hamtaroyt2 күн бұрын
I disagree, I love the capacitive buttons on my 8.
@yissibiiyte2 күн бұрын
@@hamtaroyt good for you I guess. Doesn't change the fact it's only done for cost-cutting
@ArdaK_Yldz4 күн бұрын
Law makers should mandate that climate control panels are made up of physical buttons and knobs as well as buttons for some other features instead of mandating stupid beeping sounds.
@shaywhelan15 күн бұрын
I had a Golf Match Mk7 for 18 months for my sons to learn to drive in. I loved it. Everything in the cabin just seemed to be where you would expect it to be. We replaced it with a BMW F30 3 series. I preferred the Golf. The 3 series interior is very dark and I find it hard to get used to where all the switches are.
@princekelechi17665 күн бұрын
You and Rory are excellent car reviewers! You're the reason I love Auto Trader. Cheers!
@isharsingh80485 күн бұрын
Forgets the Octavia exists 😁 7.5 is still peak Golf 🤷🏽♂️
@Sto79Be4 күн бұрын
They literally said the Octavia was the better family car! 🤦♂️
@hamtaroyt2 күн бұрын
For people who like classic yes, but for people who like tech and a clean experience, 8 and 8.5 is unbeatable, though I do like the 8 more.
@mrhmd83083 күн бұрын
As someone with a New York accent I love/appreciate your voice/accent. Cheers
@coxy58505 күн бұрын
Illuminated badge only available from the R line up and IQ lights are an option...these aren't stendard equipment.
@hamtaroyt2 күн бұрын
Hopefully that glow up badge does not exist in the GTE variant.
@BrakeForLoop5 күн бұрын
That intro. So smart
@loganpadayachee60485 күн бұрын
I own a Golf 8 GTI love it. It's my 5th golf never did i ever desire another vehicle or brand❤
@biafo45415 күн бұрын
Wish I was like you buddy, where a golf is enough. Life would be a bit more simpler. Dam this disease where I lust after cars 😂
@loganpadayachee60485 күн бұрын
@@biafo4541it's addictive when you drive it so enjoyable ❤
@elios.5035 күн бұрын
I own a '22 mk8 Rline 150ph TSI, and engine, gearbox and infotainment works very well (buy new)... at moment I'm very satisfy ... it's again the best you can buy in the segment ... (I have owned Audi A3, Q5, and BMW) ... and this mk 8.5 adjust more little details of this mk8
@roberttye59085 күн бұрын
I've a Golf mk8 active and like it so much I'm upgrading to the 8.5 R Line. Reacting to the review and some other comments I've read so far I get 60-65 mpg on my etsi and expect similar when I get the R Line which is also an etsi. Also, almost all of the controls are on the steering wheel including volume apart from heating/air con. I've driven a Focus a few times and really didn't like it. The 308 is a Peugeot and really hated it. The Civic is a contender but is more saloon type than hatchback so don't like the shape of it plus their more expensive. Had a couple of Toyota's and they are good cars but don't like their gearbox in the Corolla plus I'd rather go electric than hybrid given the choice. I think the Golf is a really good car. No car is perfect but to me the Golf is 90-95% which can't be bad.
@biafo45415 күн бұрын
@@loganpadayachee6048yeah I drove one and it's very good
@davidperry35314 күн бұрын
I don't understand why people think that they have to fiddle and change the Air Conditioning controls. The idea of Climate Control is that you set the temperature, say at 21 degrees and leave it there, all year. The car will reach the set temperature just as quickly as fiddling with it, including the fan speed which automatically changes when set to Auto. The only time you really have to use the controls manually is in severe weather conditions. Most of the criticism about the lack of manual turn knobs is unjustified.
@Sto79Be3 күн бұрын
I don’t understand why people keep repeating this fallacy. Climate control will not fast de-mist the windows automatically so you’ll be reaching to buttons/touchscreen for that. Also, if it’s a hot day or I’ve just come out the gym, having it set to 16 Celsius is the preference because I want to cool down quickly and not wait ages and also the 18 Celsius that I would have during the cooler days is too warm, and during the winter I want the car to warm up quickly so I will probably turn it up to at least 20. Very few would use exactly the same temperature day in day out, especially in the countries like UK where it can be freezing one day and quite warm the next.
@hamtaroyt2 күн бұрын
Never really thought of it like that, I should try using auto fan speed more often then.
@hamtaroyt2 күн бұрын
@@Sto79Berapidly cooling down like that is bad for you and can influence you getting a cold, just a heads up. You can precool or preheat your car via the app, learn to take advantage of the apps at your disposal - keep up with the times. The original commenter has a very valid point, if you leave it in auto it should do it for you, there's no need for it to be in the manual mode. If you need it colder turn it down and it will ramp up the fans. Honestly I didn't think of that, but I like the way it is done. It's smart, not for the average person who knows nothing about tech. If you are old, stick with old cars. The newer generation wants more tech, it's just that simple.
@toddstevens85065 күн бұрын
I like the Coke metaphor, kind of goes with the trend towards larger cars to fit, well you know, larger people.
@dhilboy2315 күн бұрын
Still has a laggy cheap touchscreen and those awful slider climate buttons, not to forget the price! So probably not the best anymore sadly😢
@loganpadayachee60485 күн бұрын
No it's not I own a Golf 8 GTI it's been updated
@nhkk28935 күн бұрын
The os is definitely not laggy since 5.0
@biafo45415 күн бұрын
Still the price...
@loganpadayachee60485 күн бұрын
@@biafo4541I bought pre-owned with low mileage 8 GTI got it for a steal
@loganpadayachee60485 күн бұрын
@@biafo4541I bought a 2021 October 8 GTI pre-owned with low mileage got it for a steal price
@hamtaroyt2 күн бұрын
I want the old steering back where it is capacitive because it is just more friendly to use in a pinch and more sanitary to clean - and with the feedback it gives me, it really does feel like a button! Although I do wish there was an option to control the fan speed, I feel the capacitive buttons on the infotainment is still good. I own a Golf 8 and I love it, and that new bigger screen really makes me want to check it out but i dont want to go to normal steering wheel buttons and some downgrades made in the 8.5.
@eponymous79102 күн бұрын
Wait til' the capacitive buttons fail. VW are replacing steering wheels in their thousands. Not good
@hamtaroyt10 сағат бұрын
@@eponymous7910 I don't see why they would fail, it's all just sensors. Nothing mechanical.
@MichaelSwanson-j9l5 күн бұрын
Love the Golf! Wish they still sold them in the USA. Love the color on the one featured here. But I will still enjoy my 2023 GTI!
@samjanko89464 күн бұрын
VW never listens, that's why their CEO's recently told his employees that they all have perhaps only a year or two to turn things around -before complete disaster.
@keithronson26244 күн бұрын
As always, Alex's reviews are spot on! The perfect review of Golf 8.5 in every way. Thank you, Alex! 👍👍👌
@Sto79Be4 күн бұрын
Oh, so the climate sliders were clunky and horrible compared to knobs but now that they’ve added backlights they’re suddenly not clunky any more? Rubbish!
@digitalpronab57635 күн бұрын
Love From India 🇮🇳 ❤
@CooperSRacer5 күн бұрын
As someone watching from the US I was utterly confused by the R seats and front grill badging paired with the new actual buttons on the steering wheel until I realized y’all have the option of the Golf with an R-Line trim. 😅 I was like what in the Frankenstein’s monster is this?
@CoolNickName954 күн бұрын
How reliable is a VW Golf 1~10?
@saraaronzon45625 күн бұрын
Bring back the regular shifter for automatic transmission!!!
@humannaturedictatesthedownfall5 күн бұрын
She is beautiful.
@That_chere4 күн бұрын
Funny thing is that we don't get the standard VW Golf in South Africa but we do get all the other performance versions of the Golf.
@AdithyaChikkola5 күн бұрын
How can one consider the Octavia and Superb a hatch? Ain’t it a sedan?
@roberttye59085 күн бұрын
Good point. There bigger cars than the Golf. The Civic is also more saloon like.
@evilmario60615 күн бұрын
Octavia is a hatch and the same platform as a Golf. Just a better value alternative in terms of space.
@okeoke46974 күн бұрын
Same price range. Same engines available 1.5 eTSI / 2.0 TDI. Same group. Same overall quality. The Golf being smaller you get more for your money with Skoda. But it's a matter of preference.
@mjalalaldin7 сағат бұрын
2:40 The Smack 🫱🏻
@googlesucks60293 күн бұрын
They need to stop letting financial people who can't drive or atleat should not be allowed to drive from making decisions on how to cut costs on car parts
@CastleGameZ4 күн бұрын
Just took delivery of a brand new ID4. After I signed the vehicle over and offered to take the delivery driver to the train station the sun visor snapped off right in my hand as I went to put it down. Shocking build quality for a £45k car......
@Sto79Be3 күн бұрын
LOL, that’s what you get for buying a dull as anything ID.4!
@BlessByYou7773 сағат бұрын
0:46🤣this is so hilarious. It cant be😳. 1:00its a beautiful car actually.
@alanwayte4325 күн бұрын
My wife ran a R in Mk7 and Mk7.5 but test driving Mk8 was a no, this Mk8.5 will still be a No ...why lack of the brilliant intuitive Climate controls on Mk7 , it’s unsafe, over complicated, and insane to have to take your eyes off the road..it should actually be illegal.
@truongyboi19892 күн бұрын
Rlaarlo is cheaper and marginally faster. But if you smash your car up often like me, parts maybe an issue. MJX still the winner for me
@richardrichard96314 күн бұрын
As someone who owned a golf gti 7.5, i still dont want a golf. I am more than happy with Honda Civic E HEV. It covers all the basics better than thr golf and is vastly bigger.
@chloeleedow72503 күн бұрын
Some dashboard punching in your future 🤣🤣❤️
@BoxBoxBoxGaming5 күн бұрын
nobody wants chatgpt, it's worse than the haptic buttons
@mohawkZT12 сағат бұрын
Jeez it’s like a laptop on the dash! I don’t know why the screens have to be so big, far too much distraction and takes away the feeling of the cars in general. Cars used to be more simple with a few buttons and got the job done. We honestly don’t need all this stuff inside a car
@okeoke46974 күн бұрын
PEUGEOT 308 ? With a Puretech engine inside ? An engine that can literally break around 20-40 k km ? That can ruin the breaking system as well ? NO THANKS. I'm switching from the last 308 GT to this 8.5 Golf R Line with the 1.5 eTSI, and dear, I'm so glad it exists. Oh, and for the climate controls it's the same: no buttons. It's even worse in fact, there is no shortcut for up and down temperature. Anyway, I will never support nor advice to go with a Stellantis car, and I'm French :D. Thanks for the review though. Cheers.
@tajulislam15223 күн бұрын
Not a fan of everything they had done from the Golf 7.5 infotaiment and onwards. Like why get rid of physical buttons for so rubbish resistance touch controls instead. They started that off with the 7.5 and went berserk with 8. And now, with the 8.5 they tried to fix the steering controls issue but the buttons look cramped just like the Polo. The two things that put me off from buying the 8 was, 1) the resistance touch to the whole car and 2) the R-Line Petrol MHEV was a step back from 7's GT BM Tech ACT which not only gave more MPG, but emitted less CO2 which meant the car was only paying £20 on VED tax a year. With the 8, the VED tax is 10 times that which means, you're making more stops between pumps as well. Like wth? Why did they go backwards, I really don't understand. Not all of us want R's or GTI's or Club Sports or Edition 45's.
@urbanstrencan4 күн бұрын
So new Golf still the king of Golf class 🤔? Great video 😊❤
@MohdSaud-bz9tw4 күн бұрын
I think they have improved the exterior design from the pre facelift. The steering wheel does look better than the previous but i don't like the touchscreen its so huge and so badly integrated i don't its even integrated!!!!
@Boetbar5 күн бұрын
Wholesome car in my books. This would do well in 🇿🇦
@biafo45415 күн бұрын
Agreed, but where does it fit in price wise, with the most expensive polo being over R600k and a Golf 8 gti coming in at over R800k, this would have to be around R700k here 😮...for a standard golf
@scaleartsg4 күн бұрын
cant wait for golf 9!
@phuketexplorer4 күн бұрын
Alex, unintentionally making secondhand 8's unsaleable! 😄
@witnesspropro2 күн бұрын
Door pockets? On the back of the seats?
@chasf34333 күн бұрын
Pity VW did not spend some of the billions they wasted on EV development on some decent Kia/Toyota rivalling hybrid drivetrains for their ICE cars instead of giving us 15 year old technology under the skin. Also VW please give the Golf a new look for the mk9 if there is one as the 7/8 are so desperately dull inside and out.
@the_freedom_quest5 күн бұрын
The fact they discontinued the GTD is a tragedy
@AdnanAmin-y4r3 күн бұрын
Apple did the same with the iPhone update
@XpressCrosSsКүн бұрын
Only stupid people would buy this car at that price
@SuperWhofan15 күн бұрын
The fun of driving a GTI is dead like most cars. Thanks Silicon Valley geeks
@paulgreen79063 күн бұрын
My Mark 2 GTi does not have a touchscreen. It is way better for it. Tech BS in a car is not needed!
@drapears4 күн бұрын
R badges everywhere but it's not an R? I hate this trend, completely trashes and waters down the 'R' monicker. Also, those wheels are atrocious.
@onyekachiemeka62553 күн бұрын
Car reviews are much more better and interesting with Rory...
@somerandomfella4 күн бұрын
Has anyone else tried the new Oreo flavoured Coke? 🤔
@ytt83703 күн бұрын
"just a golf" but for much more than golf money
@parthsethia42233 күн бұрын
it's an estate now - not a hatchback
@zuti0714 күн бұрын
No TDI engines for UK ?
@witnesspropro2 күн бұрын
Just because idiots raved about the massive "tablet" in the Tesla, manufacurers seem to think we all want that. I can assure you, we don't. BMW have also ruined my latest car with iDrive 8. Even using voice command, it's not possible to turn on the climate control air conditioning without having to press the touchscreen. Not to mention all the "driver assist" functionality which I have to turn off manually everytime I start the car. Technology has ruined driving.
@nickmartin86785 күн бұрын
A3 is as good if not better with better build and buttons
@TestAndReview5 күн бұрын
For less you can get the much better Octavia. I don't see any new Golfs on the road these days, I don't know where they achieve their sales, probably employees with some huge discounts :)
@Alexperrin985 күн бұрын
Why does everyone choose the golf GTI even tho a fiesta or focus st is more fun to drive and looks exciting
@jonathankgorane10005 күн бұрын
@@Alexperrin98 Brand snobs Thats why fiesta and focus were discontinued in South Africa
@loganpadayachee60485 күн бұрын
@@jonathankgorane1000did you ever own one???
@biafo45415 күн бұрын
@jonathankgorane1000 which is strange because Ford has a bit more brand cashe
@biafo45415 күн бұрын
@@jonathankgorane1000.
@loganpadayachee60485 күн бұрын
@@biafo4541FORD stands for First on rubbish dump lol😂
@scottferguson78634 күн бұрын
A golf has not been a peoples car for a long time, been driving for 20+ years and still not owned one!!
@genzigzag4 күн бұрын
The standard Golf looks just like the GTI, boy don't you feel special having the same look as a bog standard Golf😂
@SerialSpankR3 күн бұрын
Honda Civic for me
@user-si5dy7yy8f4 күн бұрын
Where is Rori?
@GcinaTV5 күн бұрын
I bet the most sales were from South Africa.
@loganpadayachee60485 күн бұрын
No Europe. We only have performance models not the base ones anymore
@nhlanhlaradebe84 күн бұрын
@@loganpadayachee6048 Same here in South Africa only performance models are being sold.
@stevescott-harris9 сағат бұрын
There's a reason why Rorys vids get 3x the viewership. This reviewer is useless. Can we get people who know about cars to review cars please, not failed actresses?
@peacem85745 күн бұрын
It has become one of the worst
@kylespencer83385 күн бұрын
Don’t like R seats and an R button in a standard Golf, seems out of place and Poser-ish
@jimboh.26545 күн бұрын
Why it has badges and seats In 1,5 liter 👺
@kylespencer83384 күн бұрын
@@jimboh.2654 Nah nothing like that, I just think that the R seats look out of place in a normal Golf, I get why you’d want them but as I said seems somewhat poser-esque to me
@FeyR190811 сағат бұрын
Too expensive for a small family car
@ts60704 күн бұрын
Is it me or is the sound out of sync of the presenters lips?
@lflyr62875 күн бұрын
VW Golf Mk 8.5 2024 = bootspace of 381 litres (real world 360 litres) = poor build quality + poor reliability Hyundai i30 hatchback 2017 = bootspace of 395 litres = good build quality + superb reliability
@citedcanvas854 күн бұрын
Software that forces u to take ur eyes off the road is downright dangerous and should be banned
@Dwayne30075 күн бұрын
TEAM PIXEL 👀
@williamfence5665 күн бұрын
Minimal changes on an old platform and a price hike. That'll be VW
@faygox9555 күн бұрын
More than a tin of coke, it's more like a glass of water... Insipid and boring... A Coke tin is more like a GR-Yaris... Manual, no extra doors... small, spicy, and it makes you happy...
@AMor-28454 күн бұрын
Mk2/4/5 and 7
@polattanoglu7565 күн бұрын
I say 'bollocks' to the infotainment system.
@Pedroaghyu5 күн бұрын
The end of Vw
@yaweh4004 күн бұрын
And thanks to the chinese, better software is here
@KingsleyWalker-n8r3 күн бұрын
Alf Coves
@BrigittePetermannКүн бұрын
_VW_
@lucassitanggang51545 күн бұрын
What is her Name?
@jsph32095 күн бұрын
Alex Leguoix
@bucwolf5 күн бұрын
That infotainment that Volkswagen shoves in every car they make looks ugly and looks bad. Did I say it looks awful?
@Jgjkglggkjbo9xq9ol9r5 күн бұрын
Coca-Cola !!!
@Nick-ct1ww3 күн бұрын
Designed for its tech loving largest market. Asia.
@jeshkam5 күн бұрын
Still rubbish then...
@worldofcars_ldn4 күн бұрын
They’re seat pockets on the back of the front seats not door pockets - does no one check these videos before they’re posted? Laziness from the production team
@sackeycharliejeremiah19233 күн бұрын
Wheels looks ugly
@Mr.Nabil.Belhaj4 күн бұрын
Coca cola 🤢
@aficio6985 күн бұрын
Dull styling and expensive.
@T0NYMANUEL5 күн бұрын
Mk8 is the best looking Golf ever. Mk9 is probably the ugliest
@mikeallan77405 күн бұрын
Mk7 is the best looking, there is no mk9.
@loganpadayachee60485 күн бұрын
@@mikeallan7740no ways I owned one I now have a 8 GTI it's way better