Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora - PS5/Xbox Series X|S Tech Review - Graceful Scaling vs Maxed PC

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@soraaoixxthebluesky
@soraaoixxthebluesky Жыл бұрын
You know it's a finely tuned game when they can include RT even on a Series S
@danquaza9275
@danquaza9275 Жыл бұрын
Not even, you know it’s finely tuned when they can hit 60 fps with all RT settings active, I truly find that more surprising than anything else. Other than Insomniac, no other developers have hit that mark. It’s really amazing to see with a game this detailed
@danielwilson6323
@danielwilson6323 Жыл бұрын
Wasn’t that the PS5 ? I feel like having that expectation for the XSS is a little unrealistic given the major differences
@soraaoixxthebluesky
@soraaoixxthebluesky Жыл бұрын
@@danquaza9275 Since when Insomniac make games that can run 60fps with RT enable on a 4 Teraflops machine?
@soraaoixxthebluesky
@soraaoixxthebluesky Жыл бұрын
@@danielwilson6323 Did you even watch the video? They include RT across all machine. Of course with less ray-counts on Series S as it should. They also pare back other graphical settings
@thedude8128
@thedude8128 Жыл бұрын
​@@soraaoixxtheblueskysince Spider-man remastered/miles released. Yeah, ppl on Xbox only are sort of left behind in gaming tech... Rt sucks on consoles anyways. Cube maps would work just as well and save gpu/cpu for better raster perf. But this is too technical for you to grip
@FSAPOJake
@FSAPOJake Жыл бұрын
We need more like this out of Ubisoft. Carefully-crafted, technical showcase, polished games for their major releases, to complement their mid budget or low budget games they also put out.
@hmvaa
@hmvaa Жыл бұрын
Try get them to do this while also offering quality across the board. Ubisoft has been failing the last few years for a reason.
@PlayJasch
@PlayJasch Жыл бұрын
Farcry 6 story setup: Help 3 clans and kill the leader. Avatar: Help 3 clans and kill the leader. Ubisoft games are usually very good because they dont use Unreal, but when you played one you played them all.
@joefawley9264
@joefawley9264 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call this a success either
@marquintabell5307
@marquintabell5307 Жыл бұрын
​​@@PlayJaschactually the story makes sense from far cry to this game because if you watch the first movie they did the same thing.
@Techrodd
@Techrodd Жыл бұрын
My guess is that there are huge sponsors behind this game.
@phrozac
@phrozac Жыл бұрын
Really impressive showing for the consoles. Massive and Snowdrop are apparently great together. This bodes very well for Star Wars Outlaws.
@ChrisWidell
@ChrisWidell Жыл бұрын
Well, Snowdrop is Massive’s in-house engine. 🙂
@phrozac
@phrozac Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisWidell Yes, but plenty of devs have proprietary engines that don't run particularly well. Don't wanna name any names but one that comes to mind rhymes with Spethesda ;)
@flyingplantwhale545
@flyingplantwhale545 Жыл бұрын
Truly shows how dogsh*t Unreal 5 is on consoles when a game like this, with Ubisofts own engine looks and runs so beautifully even on a Series S
@MrVoland44
@MrVoland44 Жыл бұрын
"own engine" thats why its so good. devs pushing limits usally with their own engines.
@Will-pm6fq
@Will-pm6fq Жыл бұрын
unreal engine 5 is a "dogshit" now because many bug developers have just begun to use it now, as time goes on, developers will learn to use it in full potential, I believe the Coalition will have a good use for it
@Mychannelbandung
@Mychannelbandung Жыл бұрын
In-house engine is always superior to licensed engine like unreal and unity. None can argue that!
@Neilos-sd6ti
@Neilos-sd6ti Жыл бұрын
​@@Will-pm6fqrobocop is ue 5 and it looks great
@Saif0412
@Saif0412 Жыл бұрын
​@@Mychannelbandungthat's because devs actually know how to get the most out of it. Unfortunately most devs don't seem to know how to optimise their games to the same extent.
@mandrews6282
@mandrews6282 Жыл бұрын
I’m kind of shocked they didn’t just go with Far Cry’s Dunia engine for this game given how similar the format is. But the engine looks more impressive to be honest. And gives me some hope for the upcoming Star Wars game which will use the same engine.
@JustJuan731
@JustJuan731 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny you say that, because Far Cry 7 seems like it’s gonna use Snowdrop.
@No-mq5lw
@No-mq5lw Жыл бұрын
Dunia is extremely old, outdated and is getting replaced with Snowdrop anyways.
@anorax001
@anorax001 Жыл бұрын
I am glad the did not use Dunia. Snowdrop is so much better.
@uriahg9775
@uriahg9775 Жыл бұрын
@@JustJuan731Hopefully the next Assassin's Creed will be on Snowdrop as well. Because the Anvil engine looks pretty dated these days.
@JustJuan731
@JustJuan731 Жыл бұрын
@@uriahg9775 nope, AC Red is is gonna be an upgraded Anvil Next (we’ll probably finally get Anvil Next 3.0)
@kenjisasahara
@kenjisasahara Жыл бұрын
I think a 40 fps mode would be perfect for this game, but overall it’s an incredible work of optimization, especially on Series S!
@wretchedslippage3255
@wretchedslippage3255 Жыл бұрын
There is a 40fps mode... it's called Unobtanium on 4080/4090 series cards on PC lmao... Nah but for real. Game looks great on every platform!
@AudioPhile
@AudioPhile Жыл бұрын
I see peeps commenting about 45fps modes a lot but always thought meh. Been playing this game on a 7800xt everything ultra, upscale qual ultra, frame gen off and without fps graph to remind me , playing at around 45fps was actually fine, even on my lg 65" 4k TV. Still dialed it back for 60 eventually, just feels better but 45 is absolutely streets ahead of 30fps, that shit is awful. Really gotta upgrade my CPU...
@cqstle-
@cqstle- Жыл бұрын
40fps is my go-to setting nowadays on console, so it sucks when it's not an option. Why is that and why don’t most big budget games have the option?
@nikc1313
@nikc1313 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. 40fps options should be standard. 30 looks like garbage to me but 40fps on Spiderman was pretty much indistinguishable to 60 for me.
@SENATORPAIN1
@SENATORPAIN1 Жыл бұрын
I'm tired of this comment
@Maya_Ruinz
@Maya_Ruinz Жыл бұрын
Its honestly one of the most beautiful games I have ever played, once you get to the grassland area its incredible and worthy of being awarded for its level design.
@ivofixzone6410
@ivofixzone6410 Жыл бұрын
Are you sure....yes beautiful but for first 20min . The rest is typical boring Ubisoft reskinned FarCry . Play Far Cry Primal instead - 10 times more interesting and engaging . Pretty shell is not a recipe for a good game .
@AlexAnteroLammikko
@AlexAnteroLammikko Жыл бұрын
@@ivofixzone6410 The OP only talked about its beauty. And they are right. The game looks unbelievable. I suppose, just like Avatar the movie, the visuals are surface deep to some. But that doesn't take away the fact that it is a technical showpiece. Games have a lot more than visuals, and so maybe the game is boring, haven't played it yet.
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu Жыл бұрын
@@AlexAnteroLammikko the Gameplay is amazing and the story is fine
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu Жыл бұрын
@@Ding-2014yap yap yap
@vandammage1747
@vandammage1747 Жыл бұрын
30fps looks like a blurry slideshow and the 60fps looks like an xbox one game, doesn't look good at all.
@nw6358
@nw6358 Жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd be buying or even desiring playing an Avatar game. I'm very excited to play after seeing this footage.
@peterGchaves
@peterGchaves Жыл бұрын
Same. I'll add it to my wishlist, this is a very pleasant surprise this year!! I'll definitely play it eventually, and I'm sure I'll love it from everything I've been seeing of it until now.
@xbotnpc420
@xbotnpc420 Жыл бұрын
Hollywood movie to video game very rarely works and with this game and with robocop that trend might change.
@tanmaycaptain411
@tanmaycaptain411 5 ай бұрын
The game looks amazing but it's said to have lackluster story and world so I'd really recommend just getting ubisoft+ for a month or two to access the game and then unsubscribe
@SeaToSkyImages
@SeaToSkyImages Жыл бұрын
I'm loving all of these next generation games that are finally coming to consoles. It felt like Gen 8 was never going to end.
@BurritoKingdom
@BurritoKingdom Жыл бұрын
And games finally using Mesh Shaders!
@frostyone182
@frostyone182 Жыл бұрын
It’s the exact same thing every generation. It takes 2 - 3 years for big games to start only coming out on the new generation. People have short memories. PS3 had big games coming out for years after the PS4 came out. We’re right on track with this generation.
@Battleneter
@Battleneter Жыл бұрын
Not sure what you mean by "next gen game", games typically take 3-6 years to develop, this one has been in development since 2017, what makes it "next gen"?
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite game this year. Truly a dream come true for avatar fans
@samhawkes6597
@samhawkes6597 Жыл бұрын
I have to say, 60fps feels and looks great on the on ps5. The world is so detailed and lush you barely notice any different visually apart from some muddle looking water reflections at times
@nick13b
@nick13b Жыл бұрын
Got a series s for 100 bucks last week and this game runs so good on it! RT for days!
@BUPMY1
@BUPMY1 Жыл бұрын
​@@nick13bbrand new?
@overheatedeskim054
@overheatedeskim054 Жыл бұрын
english?
@joshc6493
@joshc6493 Жыл бұрын
Honestly it's astounding that there even is a 60fps mode with the visuals and rendering tech here. Amazing
@CheckmateStallioN
@CheckmateStallioN Жыл бұрын
This game is hardly demanding. They went for a specific artstyle
@fosterfostan5593
@fosterfostan5593 Жыл бұрын
@@CheckmateStallioNTje game uses RTGI and RT reflections, are you high ?
@ultrag33k52
@ultrag33k52 Жыл бұрын
@@CheckmateStallioN What an absolutely absurd comment. Go & check out DF's video on the PC version, especially near the end where they mention the "Unobtainium" hidden setting set you can unlock.
@alexandrebelair4360
@alexandrebelair4360 Жыл бұрын
@@CheckmateStallioN Prove it.
@zonkedmusician1502
@zonkedmusician1502 Жыл бұрын
The Snowdrop engine really is a marvel.
@Fizzleish
@Fizzleish Жыл бұрын
Some would say it's....massive 🤭
@zonkedmusician1502
@zonkedmusician1502 Жыл бұрын
@@Fizzleish See what you did there....😂
@AJBats
@AJBats Жыл бұрын
The more I play the more this game grows on me.
@fraktux
@fraktux Жыл бұрын
I can't stop playing
@yoSevZ
@yoSevZ Жыл бұрын
Same
@michaelmayers3622
@michaelmayers3622 Жыл бұрын
It's not reg avatar so I haveno Intrest
@astronotics531
@astronotics531 Жыл бұрын
that’s what she said
@spikepsych
@spikepsych Жыл бұрын
sounds like stockholm syndrome (jk)
@aseddon130
@aseddon130 Жыл бұрын
It is genuinely one of the best looking games I’ve ever played. I didn’t mind playing on the 30fps mode just to take the added extras on the visuals. Genuinely stunning.
@Nucleosynthese
@Nucleosynthese Жыл бұрын
Also try it on PC. It’s even better looking and you get 60+fps quality mode 🤯
@thedeadin68
@thedeadin68 Жыл бұрын
​@@Nucleosynthesewhen you have a high end rig I have an 3070 and my vram is fucked when i buy this game
@jeffreysmith7377
@jeffreysmith7377 Жыл бұрын
The first time you leave the facility and enter into Pandora is visually amazing.
@Bronwyn031
@Bronwyn031 Жыл бұрын
Avatar: FoP (PC) is the breakout title of 2023 for me. It just came out of nowhere after the Game Wards just wrapped. It has been over a decade since a title has come along that made my jaw drop just in visuals alone; not since the original Crisis. I'm still fairly early on through my playthrough but nevertheless the game is absolutely breathtaking from a visual standpoint. I hope Massive Entertainment releases many DLCs and expansions for this game.
@deadcaptainjames6045
@deadcaptainjames6045 Жыл бұрын
Agreed the game is fun and visually stunning. My only complaint is how Vanilla the story is but that's a minor gripe compared to the rest of the game
@krys421
@krys421 Жыл бұрын
I had the same feeling I had when first playing Crysis as soon as I entered the jungle in Avatar for the first time.
@WH250398
@WH250398 Жыл бұрын
Ok Avatar "Fop" sounds pretty stupid in my opinion.
@XZ-III
@XZ-III Жыл бұрын
I dont think Game Awards are even worth effort in paying attention to. feels liek the people hosting those are playing different kind of game
@Noob-yx1cu
@Noob-yx1cu Жыл бұрын
@@deadcaptainjames6045 probably so it can be cannon
@Cavscout101
@Cavscout101 Жыл бұрын
Devs need to do more 40 fps settings
@Joeybatz33
@Joeybatz33 Жыл бұрын
40fps Quality Mode with 120hz TVs ❤️💪
@Soulindex
@Soulindex Жыл бұрын
My thought always while playing this. The bump from 30fps to 40fps felt massive when Horizon Forbidden West put it in. i want that option everywhere now
@acevedoaandres
@acevedoaandres Жыл бұрын
40 fps is mediocre, they are popular because ps5?is a crap and developer dont have vrr until late in the game and digital sony is always looking for excuses for sony mediocre console. Even now vrr is pure crap
@Cavscout101
@Cavscout101 Жыл бұрын
@@acevedoaandres cry more
@ConnorH2111
@ConnorH2111 Жыл бұрын
​@@acevedoaandres Sony are the only ones offering 30fps, 40fps 60 fps and 120fps modes in their games, wtf is Microsoft doing? Haha, options are good.
@TheDungeonDive
@TheDungeonDive Жыл бұрын
I LOVE this game. Gives me the sense of awe I was hoping to get from Starfield.
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 Жыл бұрын
lol Sweet Summer Child
@andrewwarner4434
@andrewwarner4434 Жыл бұрын
It’s one section of one planet lol
@typethings4624
@typethings4624 Жыл бұрын
Better than 1000 garbage planets with garbage debris everywhere lol Starfield
@alexgray9565
@alexgray9565 Жыл бұрын
​@typethings4624 at least it was different. This is just far cry with a different name
@tronam
@tronam Жыл бұрын
@@alexgray9565 Once I actually started playing for myself it wasn't Far Cry that came to mind. It far more resembles Crysis IMO.
@fraktux
@fraktux Жыл бұрын
I'm 42 hrs in, 85% story completion and having a blast!!! One of the best open world games I've ever played. What Ubisoft did here is amazing 👏🏻
@gleam6370
@gleam6370 Жыл бұрын
How’s the story for Ubisoft standards?
@JebesNikove
@JebesNikove Жыл бұрын
The game is good because it's made by Massive and not Ubisoft (they did help a lil but they are not the main devs). Ubisoft buying Massive was a super smart decision thou.
@JKSmith-qs2ii
@JKSmith-qs2ii Жыл бұрын
@@gleam6370 the same, which is to say mediocre.
@oceanedetotes
@oceanedetotes Жыл бұрын
it is Massive Entertainement who developped it ;) Let's give them the credit they deserve
@fraktux
@fraktux Жыл бұрын
@@gleam6370 decent! Everything fits better in a Avatar world
@perjacobsen8445
@perjacobsen8445 Жыл бұрын
Avatar frontiers of Pandora feels like magic. Thats how good it is 😊
@indieslayer16
@indieslayer16 Жыл бұрын
I've been absolutely adoring this game! One of the only games I play on Quality.
@Johnanomous
@Johnanomous Жыл бұрын
A locked 30 with proper frame pacing will always feel good. It’s the unstable 30 that’s horrendous. I mostly always play performance. But I’m playing this on Quality and it’s great!
@Nucleosynthese
@Nucleosynthese Жыл бұрын
@@Johnanomous Also try the PC version maybe. It’s even better looking and you get 60+fps quality mode 🤯
@Johnanomous
@Johnanomous Жыл бұрын
@@Nucleosynthese whenever I invest into a PC. I’m sure I will. I’m old school. I don’t want to get a PC because I know what’s going to happen. I’ll only play PC and I’ll lose the awesome childhood feeling of playing on console.
@anasshahid224
@anasshahid224 Жыл бұрын
Picked up Avatar Frontiers of Pandora on PS5 and man the graphics are absolutely stunning! It’s the first game since Horizon Forbidden West that has blown me, the world of Pandora is so lush, the natural environment, lighting is top notch. Flying around on the Ikran is a treat, Far Cry Primal is one of my all time favorite games and Avatar Frontiers of Pandora captures the vibe of that game perfectly. 😊😊
@TobyRawal
@TobyRawal Жыл бұрын
My only issue is how short the motion blurring is on 30fps. Basically feels like it’s not even there. A longer shutter speed would really help smooth that more out especially on things like your Ikran’s wings flapping.
@Nucleosynthese
@Nucleosynthese Жыл бұрын
Try the game on PC maybe. It’s even better looking and you get 60+fps quality mode 🤯
@TobyRawal
@TobyRawal Жыл бұрын
@@Nucleosynthese Well yes, of course. My point is about consoles which lock the quality mode at 30fps, and what could be done to improve the fluidity of the visual experience.
@vasilnaumov
@vasilnaumov Жыл бұрын
The fact that the Series S costs 250$ rn with discount and can run games like this is crazy!
@volcalstone
@volcalstone Жыл бұрын
Yes and the XSX now at $350 is even crazier! Keep in mind that it's also a UHD player so it's a steal for that price if you ask me. I got both the S and X along with a Panny B820 which alone is around $400-$500.
@amnril
@amnril Жыл бұрын
Indeed it is but tbh I’d rather pay a little more for the better versions from the more powerful consoles.
@CheckmateStallioN
@CheckmateStallioN Жыл бұрын
When it can run games like this at 20 fps 720p I wouldn't call that crazy
@cud0s
@cud0s Жыл бұрын
"runs"
@CJW0056
@CJW0056 Жыл бұрын
Now compare that to the cost of any single PC component, the performance per dollar of consoles is insane.
@Pelimuistelot
@Pelimuistelot Жыл бұрын
I am honestly happy we got finally got a game that pushes the next-gen. We have seen too many mediocre AAA-releases lately.
@ThePhantomGamerForever
@ThePhantomGamerForever Жыл бұрын
Definitely
@v1kt0u5
@v1kt0u5 Жыл бұрын
* current-gen 😉
@MegaLPlover
@MegaLPlover Жыл бұрын
"happy we got finally got"
@Pelimuistelot
@Pelimuistelot Жыл бұрын
@@v1kt0u5 Well yeah :D
@bandit9449
@bandit9449 Жыл бұрын
Game isn't anything special
@TheTupacSoldier7
@TheTupacSoldier7 Жыл бұрын
Im playing it on a 4090 but holy....the consoles hold up pretty amazingly
@AKSBSU
@AKSBSU Жыл бұрын
I just bought it today for $49. I'm going to be testing it on a 5800x/ 7900 XTX Nitro. Most of the ray tracing is probably not an option for me, but I am curious to see how it runs with a proper FSR 3 implementation on a 5120 * 1440 screen with HDR. It seems like Massive got every version running the best it could on all platforms.
@AnalogFoundry
@AnalogFoundry Жыл бұрын
Tom delivers once again!
@djp1234
@djp1234 Жыл бұрын
Snowdrop engine has built in VR support. I hope someone makes a VR mod for this soon.
@CheckmateStallioN
@CheckmateStallioN Жыл бұрын
VR mods are garbage and come with a ton of bugs not to mention bad performance. They dont even compare to official VR support
@djp1234
@djp1234 Жыл бұрын
@@CheckmateStallioN yeah, but it's all we have, since the developers are too blind to see the demand for it
@CheckmateStallioN
@CheckmateStallioN Жыл бұрын
@@djp1234 one of the few games that got a decent VR mod was Ghostrunner. So at this point time will tell
@djp1234
@djp1234 Жыл бұрын
@@CheckmateStallioN my favorite so far is the Luke Ross mod for Cyberpunk 2077. I could live in that game.
@frostyone182
@frostyone182 Жыл бұрын
60fps is a must. The thing about Quality modes, even 40fps modes, is that they only look better when you’re standing still. Moving the camera and getting that stuttering ruins the image. I can’t imagine caring so much about a sharper still image, to where I’d be willing to give up such smoother gameplay.
@chillybunz
@chillybunz Жыл бұрын
The bit rates on KZbin these days are sooo bad you basically need to use the 4k mode unless you want crazy amounts artifacts.
@LastDreamy
@LastDreamy Жыл бұрын
I must say, i favor performance fully for this one just because of the first person movement and verticality in platforming which really imo feels better with higher framerate.
@dutchguy1807
@dutchguy1807 Жыл бұрын
I am about 10 hours in so far on my Series S and it looks beautiful. They truly delivered next gen features on all consoles. Gameplay is fun too, especially when you unlock your ikran.
@MamaSymphonia
@MamaSymphonia Жыл бұрын
I can't believe how close the Series S version looks to the others. They did a great job.
@joefawley9264
@joefawley9264 Жыл бұрын
You call this next Gen!?
@dutchguy1807
@dutchguy1807 Жыл бұрын
@@MamaSymphonia Exactly, its also very impressive they retain both ray traced GI and reflections on Series S while a lot of developers skip ray tracing all together on the S.
@nathanpayne9205
@nathanpayne9205 Жыл бұрын
I've personally played it on both Series S and PS5 - while the PS5 obviously does look better, it's unbelievable to me how amazing this game looks on the little Series S as well. Just an absolutely phenomenal job all around.
@joefawley9264
@joefawley9264 Жыл бұрын
@@nathanpayne9205 i don't think it looks that great on PS5 either
@timytimeerased
@timytimeerased Жыл бұрын
Great job by Morgan as always, my fave at DF
@WayStedYou
@WayStedYou Жыл бұрын
Looks like it could do with a 40fps mode.
@craig71686
@craig71686 Жыл бұрын
Definitely. Every game should include a 40fps mode with how the consoles are handling new games now.
@CheckmateStallioN
@CheckmateStallioN Жыл бұрын
40 fps is barely playable even with VRR which reprojects the frames and in the process creates a burry image in motion. VRR might give you the illusion of smoother performance when in reality adds a shitload of blur effects and reprojection hiding the jittery frames but adding a ton of artifacts and blur which defeats the whole purpose. It barely feels smoother than 30 fps. A 10 fps difference is marginal. Both 30 and 40 feel choppy AF. Either 60 fps or GTFO
@paul1979uk2000
@paul1979uk2000 Жыл бұрын
@@CheckmateStallioN I tested it out on the PC with VRR on an LG display, 40fps isn't that great, but 45fps feels very much like 60fps to me, it's remarkable how much of a difference that extra 5fps is actually doing to my eyes. With that said, you can get away with 40fps on smaller displays like the Steam Deck, but on bigger displays, 45fps or above is more ideal.
@mohthesage7673
@mohthesage7673 Жыл бұрын
@@CheckmateStallioN limiting fps at 40 is half the answer, it has to be at 120hz , 160hz and so on , so it displays evenly with consistent frame times.
@craig71686
@craig71686 Жыл бұрын
@@mohthesage7673 yeah the 40fps mode on console games only unlocks with a screen 120hz or higher.
@raphaelhatake8706
@raphaelhatake8706 Жыл бұрын
I hope the flickering image artifacts on the Xbox will be fixed... Especially in performance mode these are extremely annoying & disturbing
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo Жыл бұрын
i wish you'd do this for portable pcs (steam deck clones) too.
@ghostsoda7710
@ghostsoda7710 Жыл бұрын
Snowdrop engine is beautiful . Division 1&2 looks this beautiful to me
@marrsil
@marrsil Жыл бұрын
I wish you would have touched the 2nd large area. I play on PC with a 4070 and had no issues at all in the jungle running with DLSS Quality at 1440p and ultra settings. As soon as reaching the great plains my fps fell of a cliff. Instead of 60-80 I dropped down to 40 at times. I switched to FSR3 with frame gen and reduce some shadow settings to stay above 60 fps. I would expect the consoles will struggle even more in that area.
@Leeki85
@Leeki85 Жыл бұрын
This game shows how important custom game engines are. Snowdrop is developed by the same team who makes games using it. Every feature game developers need can be implemented in the core of the engine. To take full advantage of the hardware we need a close cooperation between low-level engine programmers, game designers and artists. To achieve RT in 60 FPS at 1080+ resolution with such high quality assets, a specialized workflow has to be maintained. This is almost impossible to achieve with Unity3D or Unreal Engine 5. Only most experienced teams are able to achieve similar results with general engines. However it takes so much effort that in-house engine would be a better choice anyway.
@ThisIsEssKah
@ThisIsEssKah Жыл бұрын
Similar to the horizon games and Guerilla‘s own engine.
@lukeo5908
@lukeo5908 Жыл бұрын
Love Thom’s videos!
@HaloinfiniteEternal
@HaloinfiniteEternal Жыл бұрын
60fps with Ray tracing enabled including reflections, and global illumination lighting on a $399 to $499 dollar console with this level of graphics is quite impressive and goes to show that when devs put forth the effort at max optimization they can really push these new Console far past what they should theoretically be capable of and this game is probably the greatest example of that to date
@WiseGuy3683
@WiseGuy3683 Жыл бұрын
This game is breathtaking. They did a fantastic job on this one.
@yewtewbstew547
@yewtewbstew547 Жыл бұрын
Motion blur optional and FOV slider on console? Good game dev, have a treat.
@djayjp
@djayjp Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for 40 & 60fps being standard.
@djayjp
@djayjp Жыл бұрын
@SilverSurfer-mg6ti I think for single player 60 is fine. For slower paced single player stuff 40fps is also fine. But yeah with AMD's Frame Gen tech, 120fps converted from 60 should be totally feasible.
@AKSBSU
@AKSBSU Жыл бұрын
@@djayjp A ton of recent games have microstutter. That is the biggest thing I hope it fixes or at least dramatically reduces.
@00-JT
@00-JT Жыл бұрын
One thing I really like is how alive everything feels there bugs and little lizards things and birds everywhere its really cool.
@Crimsongz
@Crimsongz Жыл бұрын
Sub 1080p lmao ! Next-gen right ?
@randyrrs7028
@randyrrs7028 Жыл бұрын
4k gaming!!
@dcthug
@dcthug Жыл бұрын
Excellent. Been waiting on this 👍🏾
@4tech69
@4tech69 Жыл бұрын
I'll wait from some further performance patches but It looks very good and seems pretty interesting overall.
@ultrag33k52
@ultrag33k52 Жыл бұрын
If you have a VRR TV it's fine, the performance is incredibly smooth. TBH when they made the game I think they were expecting/hoping most have this feature (it has to be forced on via the PS5 system settings for this title though bizarrely before it's activated. On Xbox it activates naturally fine).
@alexandrebelair4360
@alexandrebelair4360 Жыл бұрын
@@ultrag33k52 The vast majority of people doesn't have a VRR TV
@DiegoCobain
@DiegoCobain Жыл бұрын
Well time for me to buy it on Series X. You sold me well this game 😅
@djayjp
@djayjp Жыл бұрын
It's missing bidirectional light transmission through the leaves, hence they look rather opaque. UE has that.
@DenDGLegionhardhouse
@DenDGLegionhardhouse Жыл бұрын
Snowdrop really amazed me in terms of quality and capability running the game on console. On my high end pc its just a graphical masterpiece. Game is good and they did an amazing job!
@TheChillDeadpool
@TheChillDeadpool Жыл бұрын
Literally the only thing that upsets me is the fact none of the Na’vi fight or anything else with you
@lesserlogic9977
@lesserlogic9977 Жыл бұрын
I'm fairly impressed with how this turned out on series s which I normally am not. If I had boughten the system this would be worth a play
@xistam
@xistam Жыл бұрын
Really had someone on another video trying to tell me the graphics in this game weren't anything special and that it looks no better than far cry. I swear so many gamers nowadays are just spoiled and blind. This game looks absolutely incredible, every time I play it I find myself just stopping in places and just looking at the scenery.
@Wobbothe3rd
@Wobbothe3rd Жыл бұрын
It's social media rewarding negative comments.
@chonkusdonkus
@chonkusdonkus Жыл бұрын
This game looks so flat in any scene where the sun isn't directly shining on the surfaces. Really make it feel like we're back in the early 2010s.
@Praxss
@Praxss Жыл бұрын
If they somehow manage to get stable 40fps on all 3 systems, that will be cherry on top.
@itsalwaysdarkestbeforethes1198
@itsalwaysdarkestbeforethes1198 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone even offer 40 fps that’s not Sony? It’s super uncommon. It’s really 30, 60, 120 and the VRR modes on occasion
@Praxss
@Praxss Жыл бұрын
@@itsalwaysdarkestbeforethes1198 I think hogwarts legacy offers 40fps mode. I might be wrong here.
@efitgamingandlife2945
@efitgamingandlife2945 Жыл бұрын
​@@itsalwaysdarkestbeforethes1198plagues tale requiem
@CheckmateStallioN
@CheckmateStallioN Жыл бұрын
40 fps is barely better than 30. We are talking a marginal difference of only 10 frames. Both are choppy. VRR adds reprojection and blurs out the image in motion in the process which is making things worse. So it creates the illusion that your game runs "smoother" when all it does is hide all the choppy frames behind a ton of blur and artifacts. 60 fps should be the minimum
@randys8974
@randys8974 Жыл бұрын
Omg you know everything please start a KZbin
@fd5927
@fd5927 Жыл бұрын
I was happily playing Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora on my RTX 4080 PC at 60fps, when not a while into a 40 minute gameplay, a pop-up window appeared with Linus Sebastians face and a warning was displayed. "You are a loser "freak", Gamers who play at 60fps need to be shot . "I only game on systems and monitors with 950fps and above". Well, as you can imagine, I was totally shocked. I was having an enjoyable time playing the game Avatar, much like other PC games on my system albeit at 60fps, I don't understand why I'm hated for not having a 989fps VRR display, only having a 60hz OLED. Does me proud, or is that now the wrong thing to say.
@iseptimus
@iseptimus Жыл бұрын
This runs at 70-80fps @ 1440 on my X13 Flow and mobile 3080 with full ultra settings. Such a well optimised engine.
@silverwerewolf975
@silverwerewolf975 Жыл бұрын
Mmmm in benchs i saw much lower fps
@born2serve92
@born2serve92 Жыл бұрын
yeahhh I dont keep 80 fps on ultra and I am on a desktop 4070ti...@@silverwerewolf975
@JerryFlowersIII
@JerryFlowersIII Жыл бұрын
I just can't get over how much the foliage sways for no reason. It can't possibly be that windy constantly.
@zorastin
@zorastin Жыл бұрын
Do you have the game or just basing this of videos you have seen. Not like that at all for me.
@Pett230
@Pett230 Жыл бұрын
Nearly every game I've played constantly has swaying foliage and trees which is totally unrealistic. I know not all games are trying to be realistic but for me it's a strange design choice. It must be very windy in video game world.
@stevenesbitt3528
@stevenesbitt3528 Жыл бұрын
This is so useful when it come to taking a chance on this game. I get so little time to game, this is invaluable ❤
@xblur17
@xblur17 Жыл бұрын
Where is the Maxed PC comparison mentioned in the title? Skimmed the video 3 times and couldn't find it
@arronstone177
@arronstone177 Жыл бұрын
I’m playing at the moment and loving it. I think it has more in common with the Horizon games than Far Cry. Unfortunately I’ve got stuck with a bug on The Missing Hunter quest so I can’t carry on with the story until it’s fixed.
@DuckAlertBeats
@DuckAlertBeats Жыл бұрын
:( Really? Not a fan of Far Cry games but... Those Horizon games are the most tedious things I can remember playing tbh
@BlackEagle352
@BlackEagle352 Жыл бұрын
Tedious? Damn, mobile gaming for you then.
@dnishimura
@dnishimura Жыл бұрын
@arronstone177 I had a bug where the NCP didn't spawn, but reloading the save fixed it.
@SimonBuchanNz
@SimonBuchanNz Жыл бұрын
I was pretty bored by Horizon overall but this game is weirdly amazing! It's not for everyone, the dumb ass overly sincere story and difficult to navigate world early on especially; but the combat, stealth, movement, crafting etc, all feels so much more thoughtful than any of the other open world games I've played, all of them pushing you to engage with the world they've built rather than just repeating the same thing that works until the next thing unlocks. It's upsetting that Avatar of all properties gets the technically and mechanically great game.
@DuckAlertBeats
@DuckAlertBeats Жыл бұрын
@@BlackEagle352 mobile games?!?? Hardly. You're a million miles off there
@timmy3822
@timmy3822 Жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown. I was going to wait to see how it performed on PS5 before buying but my impatience got the better of me. It’s absolutely stunning, the kind of graphical prowess that differentiates the last gen with the current. We need more experiences like this, even if it is limited by the generic Ubisoft formula. A very impressive showing from Snowdrop, and even more so from the Series S. Despite its limitations it’s proving to be a cracking console for those on a budget.
@Ralexxanderr
@Ralexxanderr Жыл бұрын
Definitely has more of a Crysis feel than it does Far Cry. Glad I’m not the only one thinking that. I’ve been playing this game non stop on PS5 in Performance mode with a 120Hz 2.1 monitor and it’s breathtakingly beautiful. I wish Photo Mode was a bit more fleshed out though.
@nikc1313
@nikc1313 Жыл бұрын
I have a VRR oled display and the game looks great on PS5 and for the most part feels pretty smooth however it seems to drop out if the VRR range a little too often during intense fire fights which makes it a little jarring. Hopefully a patch cleans this up then it'll be perfect. Feel too many games rely on VRR cleaning up their performance modes.
@Daniel189HLL
@Daniel189HLL Жыл бұрын
40 fps mode would be lovely
@mattlandry
@mattlandry Жыл бұрын
1:55 that B roll is crazy. I did bot expect that kind of foliage from current gen consoles
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 Жыл бұрын
Why not? Barely any game has touched their performance yet.
@E_Sunbro
@E_Sunbro Жыл бұрын
I’m having a great time on PC. My only real complaint is that it’s not on Steam.
@XZ-III
@XZ-III Жыл бұрын
seems like a small complaint, the game is still the game steam or epic, i hate steams' dumb ass posts even in the library tab
@dnishimura
@dnishimura Жыл бұрын
​@@XZ-III for me it's more a matter of convenience to have all games in one place. That said, I don't really care where the game is, as long as I can play it. Battle Net and Steam are always open on my pc, and I open the others when I need them. Not a big deal imo.
@p1ngu1no
@p1ngu1no 6 ай бұрын
But the Game has been released today right?
@coastredwoods
@coastredwoods Жыл бұрын
I don't care what people say, this is my personal GOTY and one of my favorite games I've ever played.
@MetalDeathHead
@MetalDeathHead Жыл бұрын
🤣
@Elemental-l9i
@Elemental-l9i Жыл бұрын
​@@MetalDeathHeadyou can't afford it
@ip96.7.21
@ip96.7.21 Жыл бұрын
​@@Elemental-l9iyou sure showed him with that comment. He'll never recover from that, good one. Well done
@entertainmentwizard2703
@entertainmentwizard2703 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@H.E.M.
@H.E.M. Жыл бұрын
We need pro consoles. No way gta 6 will be 60fps on console. It’ll be 1440p 30fps at this rate. Idk how games look only slightly better than they did last gen and yet run hella worse. 800p in 2023 is crazy.
@destroyermcw626
@destroyermcw626 Жыл бұрын
Series S be touching 720p lol
@cursedfishtanx9087
@cursedfishtanx9087 Жыл бұрын
I rarely play games on quality mode but as soon as I stepped out of the tunnel of the RDA facility I switched to quality mode and haven't switched back. This game visual spectacle is definitely worth the lower FPS, albeit with motion blur on.
@Nucleosynthese
@Nucleosynthese Жыл бұрын
Maybe try the PC version then. It’s even better looking and you get 60+fps quality mode 🤯
@alexandrebelair4360
@alexandrebelair4360 Жыл бұрын
@@Nucleosynthese Why do you copy and paste your comment everywhere?
@Starfield-Guy
@Starfield-Guy Жыл бұрын
This is what I was hoping ark ascended would look like and I have to say quality mode on series X is fantastic. It doesn’t even feel like 30fps Incredible game, really feels like Pandora. Well done Ubisoft, give us a sequel set in the oceans
@Helixium08
@Helixium08 Жыл бұрын
Eh, I think the 30 fps does feel exactly like 30 fps. Try playing on the 60 fps mode for a couple hours and then go back to 30 fps mode. You will notice a big difference.
@timytimeerased
@timytimeerased Жыл бұрын
studio is called Massive not Ubisoft. They're just owned by Ubi
@Armadyz
@Armadyz Жыл бұрын
Great video, Tom
@piensluc7444
@piensluc7444 Жыл бұрын
Series X with VRR on is the winner here ! On my LG C1 65inch its georgeous !
@rinas6550
@rinas6550 5 ай бұрын
Loving this game so far and have been playing on quality mode without even questioning it 😂 it’s smooth and feels good. Looks like performance isn’t worth trying out, I find unstable frame rates way more distracting than a solid lower frame rate.
@rafiii_808
@rafiii_808 Жыл бұрын
Series S saved! This looks seriously good for this little machine
@andremostert8630
@andremostert8630 Жыл бұрын
Are we looking at the same thing? It looks like a blurry mess
@joefawley9264
@joefawley9264 Жыл бұрын
I'd have to disagree on that one.
@real_Pinoy
@real_Pinoy Жыл бұрын
Graphics look good but the mechanics are complete Trash just play the then find out
@silverwerewolf975
@silverwerewolf975 Жыл бұрын
​@@andremostert8630all look like a blurry mess
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 Жыл бұрын
720p at 30fps. You are hopeless.
@jeffcarrier9808
@jeffcarrier9808 Жыл бұрын
LOVE this game. The exploration, gathering, crafting, etc are all so satisfying! I'm having a blast and I can't even fly yet!
@themaster20484
@themaster20484 Жыл бұрын
@all devs give us 40 fps option in every game. Like Spiderman or ratched. Quality 40fps Mode ❤
@Mopantsu
@Mopantsu Жыл бұрын
So does VRR solve most of the fps and frametime issues on PS5?
@Adrianhernandez-ex8cj
@Adrianhernandez-ex8cj Жыл бұрын
Yes its very frustrating it runs like garbage on ps5 It dips to 45fps all the time its really annoying
@thelargenugget3458
@thelargenugget3458 Жыл бұрын
yes it runs like crap on my PS5. It constantly drops frames and stutters. even with VRR.
@Adrianhernandez-ex8cj
@Adrianhernandez-ex8cj Жыл бұрын
wow heard so many people say vrr made it good but it really does run like garbage most fights are unplayable @@thelargenugget3458
@ardasevmis7583
@ardasevmis7583 Жыл бұрын
Now this is a good looking game
@enthusiasticgamer88
@enthusiasticgamer88 Жыл бұрын
Preordered this as I enjoy Far Cry / most Ubi games and love the Avatar films, I was not disappointed. Very fun game.
@mksii
@mksii Жыл бұрын
As always KZbin compression is ruining things. It's especially noticeable in games with heavy dense foliage and detail like this, it was also a huge problem for Forza Horizon 5.
@kraenk12
@kraenk12 Жыл бұрын
Horizon 5 doesn’t look great.
@TMWriting
@TMWriting Жыл бұрын
Was that flickering on the static ground just a bug messing with the rendering? (A literal bug-animal in the game, I mean.)
@oppa1319
@oppa1319 Жыл бұрын
Would love a 40fps mode.
@rinas6550
@rinas6550 5 ай бұрын
I haven’t seen a game this beautiful since Horizon Forbidden West. The world is soooo full of life.
@morganbrown392
@morganbrown392 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like this game needs a couple of updates before I purchase it. Either way, it’s on my radar.
@PotbellyPunch
@PotbellyPunch Жыл бұрын
I had seen comments from people on some other reviews that later in the game series s was running into major framerate problems but idk if that was an early patch
@geekosa63
@geekosa63 Жыл бұрын
IMO the water reflections are very bad on console version in perf mode :/
@destroyermcw626
@destroyermcw626 Жыл бұрын
Vaseline!!!!! But I think I’ll go with Quality mode more
@Zenzuu
@Zenzuu Жыл бұрын
We all know the PC version will always look best and can brute force its way to max settings for every game, but I'm always more interested in console ports videos to see how much assets and graphical features developers can retain in the consoles, given it's running on less powerful hardware. Makes it more interesting and exciting to watch.
@fenixa2z936
@fenixa2z936 Жыл бұрын
We all know the PC version *may be able to, depending on your setup. The great thing about the consoles is that you don’t break the bank and you still have 2 great choices in Quality and Performance.
@Torso6131
@Torso6131 Жыл бұрын
It really is an astonishing-looking game. I've been playing on PC and it just looks fantastic, even with a 6700xt. Just had to figure out that the game defaulted to a weird refresh rate (well, 120hz seems normal, but 119.84 was the correct, and available option) and switching to that removed any stuttering I had. All in all I'm absolutely amazed the resolution the consoles are pushing here too. Oh, and it's pretty fun to boot, even as someone who has zero interest in the movies after seeing the first one in theaters.
@carpetfluff35
@carpetfluff35 Жыл бұрын
I might have been tempted with the quality mode if the motion blur were better, but I've stuck to performance and I'm pretty happy with it in most cases.
@Tom-hd4cq
@Tom-hd4cq Жыл бұрын
The best release this year and it's December... It looks perfect, it works nearly perfect and the open world and the atmosphere is a most wanted for all Avatar fans.
@fernandoalarcon525
@fernandoalarcon525 Жыл бұрын
Are consoles using frame generation?
@Radek494
@Radek494 Жыл бұрын
No
@fernandoalarcon525
@fernandoalarcon525 Жыл бұрын
@@Radek494 What a waste. All consoles are perfectly capable of Frame Gen and AMD Fluid Motion Frames.
@TSYN_reviews
@TSYN_reviews Жыл бұрын
Today I will beat the game I'm at 95% story completion.. this game is beautiful. !!! Wish I had a gaming PC for this game honestly. It's the new crisis " can it run avatar 😂"
@Nucleosynthese
@Nucleosynthese Жыл бұрын
Alan Wake and Cyberpunk are good contenders too. But yeah, this is a great one
@Electropylon
@Electropylon Жыл бұрын
@UbisoftMassiveEntertainment: Feature Request: Please add a separate 40 fps (quality) mode for 120 Hz displays (as done in Horizon Forbidden West, Hogwarts Legacy, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart, and Spider-Man games). With the 30 fps mode having stable performance, hopefully such a 40 fps mode won't require too many cutbacks in quality and resolution.
@alex_gaming9585
@alex_gaming9585 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how is the performance mode on PS5 and Xbox sx if you play on a 1080p display?
@flockelocke2297
@flockelocke2297 Жыл бұрын
On consoles it doesn't matter if you play on a 4k display or 1080p and change the resolution. It does not change how a game is rendered internally. You simply pick resolution or performance. All games look better on a 4k display regardless of the mode even though it's upscaled from 1080p or even less like Alan Wake 2. The way you want it you could change resolution in Elden Ring and have a locked 60 but sadly it's not working like that.
@destroyermcw626
@destroyermcw626 Жыл бұрын
It won’t matter because it will Downsample the Resolution like it’s a Preset for it to be.
@destroyermcw626
@destroyermcw626 Жыл бұрын
@@flockelocke2297That only worked with past Xbox consoles like Xbox 360 or Original Xbox or PS3
@aaronborg9102
@aaronborg9102 Жыл бұрын
Anything regarding the raised Black Levels ?
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