Avatar Remastered Changes Breakdown

[@AVTR]

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[@DMann2006]

Hardly a remaster. I doubt they re-rendered the CGI to 4K. They didn't do it for the "Lord of the Rings Trilogy" 4K release. The CGI was upscaled to 4K. I bet this was as well.

[@joaosantos5503]

Are you the Avatar poster on /tv, by any chance?

[@Baldarsar]

you have any idea if the gone release a 4k version on BluRay for home ?

[@AVTR]

@@Baldarsar they are! Probably in November

[@Baldarsar]

@@AVTR thx

[@creategreatness8823]

A buddy threw on the Disney+ stream a few months back and the movie STILL looked impressive in HD on a stream. I can't imagine how gorgeous the film is going to look with a proper 4K mastering and HDR color grading. It has been 13 years and this is going to look like a brand new movie.

[@Nando.M1]

I just came back from the theater. The movie looked Phenomenal! (I watched this movie like 100 times) but the updated visuals are stunning

[@levyan4718]

Are you stupid

[@ukuviispert9599]

i personally dont like the more vibrant colours, sure it works and looks better during night scenes especially when something is glowing such as stars or the pink tree. But in just a random forest or foggy mountains the more vibrant colours make it look way too cartoony

[@IskanderVFX]

exactly my thoughts, the increase in resolution is an absolute upgrade, the colors it's just about taste, some stuff look prettier other look just out of place

[@quangphung9396]

Boohoo

[@anonview]

Maybe it depends on your geographical location? Because for me, someone who lives in a tropical country, the remaster looks more similar to our forest and jungle environments than the original. We get a lot of sun for most of the year, so colors can look pretty intense to the naked eye under the right lighting.

[@triangle82838]

The old colors make the area more mysterious

[@some_doofus]

I definitely disagreed with the remaster having more “natural” colours. More saturated with stronger blues and greens yes, but the original looked the most balanced and natural. I think the colour grading is a big downgrade, but I guess they felt they needed to do more than just up the resolution to make it a remaster

[@HeidiBird]

I think the old colour grading is actually the more natural one. The new grading is just too bright. Real colours in real light do not pop like that. Also, the animations from back then simply do not have the detail to hold up under K4 and still look realistic. While the lower resolution was able to mask the CGI well, the remaster makes everything look plastic-y and like a video game scene. I say leave the original well enough alone. I have yet to see a remaster of ANYTHING that actually improved the product.

[@myzamau428]

You've never seen a remaster for any film that's an improvement? Seriously? There are plenty of remastered films that are miles ahead of what was originally shown.

[@Caligari87]

It actually makes me wonder if they re-graded and/or oversharpened the image specifically for the trailer footage since they knew a lot of people would be watching on phones or PCs with only HD displays. Kind of like how BluRay movie ads were done on DVDs to give the _impression_ of increased quality even though they couldn't _actually_ show the improved quality on the screen you'd be watching on.

[@anonview]

I like the new color grading. I personally think it looks natural enough, as in similar to some tropical forests and jungles I've been to. It mimics the sharpness and contrast between real-life objects. Like, you can better see which objects are in the foreground versus which ones are in the background.

[@GTexperience_Channel]

I agree with this statement

[@GTexperience_Channel]

the 4K one looks like they are in an active radiation cloud.

[@forgottenpaperflowers]

I'm literally beyond excited to see my fave film in 4K in the cinema. It will be my like 50th time watching this film and this is gonna be the best one yet I'm so excited 😭

[@Ssecave]

Just watched the movie in theaters, amazing. The sound was insane. Hopefully some scene from the extended cut will be remastered and come to blueray later (Earth scene at the beginning, the school, Tsu Tei final scene etc....

[@Alex_Logan22]

The missles firing and explosions/shock waves were next level.

[@craftergaming392]

Bois we're going home!

[@anonview]

I like the brighter colors in the remaster. They did look saturated at first glance, so I went outside and held my phone up against our neighbor's garden. Now, I live in a tropical country, and depending on the weather, plant colors here can get pretty "intense." (I'm not sure how to word it exactly, but I hope it makes sense. 😅) Today was a pretty sunny day, and the colors I saw in the trailer more or less matched up with the colors I saw surrounding me.

[@MickintheMiddle]

The surround sound change was actually incredible when I saw it a few days ago in an IMAX cinema.

[@musketsrule5541]

It’s honestly a breath of fresh air to see someone in Hollywood putting so much effort into their projects again, just adding back into the original material to make it even better than the first time, always one of my favorite movies growing up and I’m so happy people are recognizing it now that the sequel is coming out

[@smartduck904]

It's just another money grab

[@tobirei482]

@@smartduck904 no shit

[@michalsavatar7]

I saw Avatar 18 times in the cinema.....so yea, im excited about anything Avatar related.

[@moxieman2452]

Finally someone who can rival my record. Rematch for the remaster?

[@boubow]

Do you think they’ll add back in deleted scenes? I’d really like to see the war camp deleted scene or the deleted scene with the other RDA Avatars near towards the end of the film.

[@AVTR]

Unlikely, most of the run times we have seen are the same as the standard theatrical cut.

[@fenixa2z936]

The 2010 Special Release is the best version. I find that 178 min extended release with alternate Jake intro wasn’t well done and totally unnecessary. Middle one is the sweet spot. I’m really hoping that’s what we get.

[@leeroberts1192]

If they had to pick just three to add for me they'd be: 1) The scene where Jake goes "tripping" and discovers his fate to be Toruk Makto. He's covered in loads of white lines 2) The Hunt Party (the Na'vi party/piss up celebrating their success in the hunting 3) Avatars Attack which explains why there are a few avatar drivers allowed to stay (and also just to see Max flip off Selfridge)

[@HowlingWolf518]

Alas, it's the original '09 version with like ten extra seconds near the end to set up Part 2.

[@HowlingWolf518]

@@leeroberts1192 Don't forget "Breakfast with the Scientists," "We're Buying Time" and "Long Way From Earth." So much wasted character development.

[@Fenrirk-c2i]

Maybe it’s just me, but I noticed with these improvements that the Na’Vi themselves look more natural so to speak. I had a hard time putting my finger on it, but I noticed that the Na’Vi’s white specks are more noticeable when I saw them on the silver screen. Their feline features also felt more noticeable this time around, but that could just be my imagination. Having them just slightly more cat like actually made it easier for me as an audience member to sympathize with their plight because it no longer triggered the uncanny valley aspect.

[@WaterCloset]

favorite thing thats an actual improvement with the grading is that stephen langs skin is illuminated green from the ambient occlusion in his mech from all the exterior grass light bounce

[@CrisisOnInfiniteUniverse]

Natural doesnt means over staurated and high contrast. Before it was natural. Now its just " Lets bring new audience" color theme.

[@flicsmo6838]

It's bizarre. I guess we'll never entirely get past the idea that more saturation / contrast = better. It really hurts Avatar in particular though - what makes the movie stand out is just how real everything feels, but the illusion doesn't work as well when it looks more like pure fantasy. There are a few shots I thought looked better, but the navi are plasticy and the landscapes all have this weird green tinge.

[@Chuckyboy85]

Always loved Avatar. It’s a masterpiece in my eyes.

[@Ponlets]

i think the best way to get a better visual increase is to re render the sequences in 4k and to re scan the film cells for the IRL scenes (a majority of the film is entirely animated)

[@cypripedium9599]

I watched the remastered version in IMAX two weeks ago and it was amazing

[@Anymous578]

Omg I just went to see this at IMAX 4D this movie is amazing I recommend y’all to watch this 😊

[@tsohgallik]

They definitely remade a lot of the close ups to the main Navi'i characters. There were a few shots of Jake and Netyri that had crisp photorealistic graphics

[@target555]

Was really good in imax 3d. Definitely recommend checking it out again.

[@MassimoCerreto]

The only thing I care about is that this remaster hopefully is going to leads to a 4K Blu-Ray release (in 24p!). It's absolutely ridiculous, that in 2022 there's still no UHD disc for this movie. But then on the other hand, we still don't even have standard Blu-Rays for True Lies or The Abyss.

[@britanyabrown783]

Amazing breakdown.

[@dayagreen]

i also noticed from watching on my tv that some shots appear to look more 3D in the remastered version. i can’t wait to see how everything looks and sounds!

[@douglaskim6611]

Thanks for your kind video.

[@Santi_g4228]

Just watched in IMAX 3D! Spectacular experience! It felt like watching it for the first time. Btw if you go see it (which you should) stick around during the credits!

[@Nando.M1]

Nooo!! I left after the credits… what happened??

[@Santi_g4228]

@@Nando.M1 There’s a shot of Quaritch rising from the dead

[@Santi_g4228]

@@Nando.M1 Jk it’s Avatar 2 snippet

[@Nando.M1]

@@Santi_g4228 what was the snippet exactly? I’m sad I missed it. What did the snippet show (please go into detail)

[@weasel4674]

@@Nando.M1 it depends on what format you saw it in but I saw imax 3D and we had a scene of a Navi teen helping a manatee who’s been shot by a harpoon and them swimming together. Absolutely stunning

[@31pas0]

- Greenish cast everywhere in the shadows - Colours look more natural! Bruh..

[@benputhoff9898]

one thing I notice is while yes, the video is clearer, the faces look smoother, I hope the texture resolution doesn't show it's age, like watching toy story 2 as a kid vs now

[@eddywells5689]

Great vid 💞💞

[@georgeorwell2296]

Sounds like the visual and audio tweaks represent more of a Director's Cut of Avatar. Some films are rushed out due to deadlines and filmmakers can never get it quite as perfect as they want to.

[@royz_1]

2k is not same as 1080p. Its 1440p

[@JumpscareRodent]

I can imagine these new shots on TV screens at stores that are advertising the quality of the tv

[@thisistheslam]

Definitely see the subtle difference. Once thing to remember is that CGI is a difficult thing to "remaster". If I'm not entirely mistaken, the way studios render CGI for movies and the way video games render visuals are a bit different. Games can always be "upgraded" when the entire set of assets on-screen are being rendered by the game engine and thus can be universally/selectively upgraded because the engine is segmented into what detail/effects go into different visual/audio/physics effects that make up the entire picture. Movies build their models and motions in a little bit of a different way with motion-capture a big part of the experience with digital overalys/backgrounds interlaced with real world environments (depending on the movie). It's not entirely like a game engine where you simply toggle on a switch and boom, you have better shadow details and smoother framerates. Everything in a movie studio is mixed and rendered then played back, so the engine isn't really doing any work to produce the visuals. That's why movie CGI is always ahead of games - there's no variable to account for - the playback is already rendered and runs on the rails exactly as the film is meant to. But games, contrarily, can be upgraded as hardware advances... at least, up to a point. A game engine, if built with enough "runway" (future proofing detail and features, with best in-class efficiency) can dramatically improve the look of a game without having to go back and "remaster" the entire game. You can approach a game in a similar way but it's really more for putting finishing touches, not rebuilding things scene by scene. What's my point? Avatar can't look a TON better by simply going to 4K. You will see differences and the clarity will be there, especially in the colors (evidenced by the trailer) but it won't be a game-changer because high-quality 1080p (Blu-Ray) content is actually very good to begin with, so going from low compression 1080p to low-compression 4K won't yield a ton of results unless the movie was meant to be in 4K all along and was downsampled to 1080p or 720p, in which case seeing it in 4K would be a dramatic improvement. This will be mostly the same with the inevitable migration to 8K in the next 3-5 years, although 8K may be the holy grail of detail given how fine the image can be without any AI involvement. These details are best observed when looking at the real world through a camera lens. For instance: viewing a waterfall in 1080p vs 8K in 60-120 FPS in HDR would be incredible to behold because the level of detail would be so finely produced your mind starts to think it's actually there through the looking glass.

[@loveandrespect7772]

Great breakdown video 👍

[@stug77]

All this gloat from Cameron about "upsetting" "redefining" or otherwise "disrupting" the movie industry. We're still going to get a neutered 128mbps 24fps blu-ray as consumers. If I was a director making a movie for the sole purpose of pushing technological bounds, I wouldn't let Netflix or Amazon get their grubby little compression mits on it. Not unless they're willing to completely rework their infrastructure to support streaming at DCP bitrates.

[@AVTR]

Based take!

[@saricubra2867]

And lossy audio lmao.

[@BollyToHolly]

Jus came back from theatre and loved it; it’s better ❤️

[@footlong4769]

Imagine wanting to sit through that again!

[@tuxxyy1]

Watched it tonight. It looks great!

[@richardlebeda6363]

Okay They did also add aditional scene in the end of the original movie + After the movie We saw short, but diamond perfect sneakPeak from Avatar2. I was stunned.

[@maxmuskie]

you somehow made me even more hyped about avatar

[@TheOneSandwich]

“Watch in 4k if you can” me - Turns on 1080p

[@thewat668]

Glad they brightened it up, the night scenes were barely watchable before

[@mirochlebovec6586]

Going to the cinene to see this was just amazing

[@photelegy]

So how did they remaster the resolution of the original movie. Did the just increase the resolution to 4K with the best modern upscaling methods from 2K? OR did they rerender the original 3D-models and scenes with newer hardware (graphics cards, ...) and newer render engines (ray tracing, ...)?

[@stevemuzak8526]

It's gonna looks glorious on a OLED tv.

[@xGaLoSx]

I have a 103 gig fan made 4k upscale with hdr, it looks amazing. I doubt the remaster will look as good.

[@connorkenway09]

James Cameron be like: CHECK OUT THESE GRAPHICSSSSS YALL!

[@SuperThisen]

I hope they release this new updated version of the movie on blu-ray ect.

[@bluebird9444]

Finally saw it and it was great That sneak peak of Avatar 2 My gawd it was amazing

[@music_master12]

So what is the difference between the version that was running on the network until now in 4K quality, and the one that is now?

[@dustinakadustin]

Saw it recently and was a really great time

[@MrArbreFleuri]

He loves the new logo! He's just like me!

[@astricatt634]

I’m going to see it tomorrow! XD

[@parasharkchari]

Small note : I can't say this for Avatar specifically since I didn't personally work on it, but all the feature film CG I have worked on has taken advantage of the Cinemascope aspect ratio, so while it was a full 2k width, it might not have been a full 1080p height. So for 1920 wide, that often translated to 832p height... or 896p if we are doing 2048 wide. Both are slightly more than you need, but give you a margin for letterbox cropping and are still multiples of 32 (macroblock size).

[@td.mike00]

I watched it in 3D imax, amazing, it's made me reexperience my favorite movie like it was new. Stick around for the credits

[@bluecollarloser6654]

Was busy this week but thankfully its playing for 2 weeks. Sadly I didn't get to see this in theaters when it came out 11 years ago I can't WAIT to see this tonight in 3d lol. The world of Pandora is beautiful and is meant to be seen in theaters

[@smanchac77]

How was it? I saw it in 3d in Dolby atmos with the 4k remaster. It was awesome. Then I saw it in imax 3d and it was even better, huge (filled the screen the entire time) and the sound was loud as hell! But it was slightly cropped compared to the non imax version I saw.

[@bluecollarloser6654]

@@smanchac77 I'm actually going to do a lazy review for it tomorrow. It was beautiful! But my sister has never been to a 4d theater and we have one in Syracuse NY. So I get done at 2 pm. Starts at 5:30 and it's a 2 hour drive but idc Going to bring the kids and I want to make a video talking about the RPX experience then the 4d experience.

[@Simon-kc4ml]

Best 3d experience i've ever had

[@Chimera_Photography]

This is THE movie I wanted to watch when I got my new 4K OLED tv, I was so disappointed, years ago I might add! That there was no UHD version

[@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat]

Someone clearly doesn't know what NATURE looks like. More overlly saturated and sharp doesnt equal "natural". It's quite synthetic actually.

[@dayagreen]

everything in pandora is much more vibrant than here on earth - because this world is fantasy, it’s much easier to get away with a pop of colour

[@Geronimo_Jehoshaphat]

@@dayagreen Sure, I can accept that reasoning. But it doesn't look "more natural", that's all.

[@TheMynig]

When is 4k version available ? Or when it’ll be the remastered on on Disney+?

[@tunnellightstudios5183]

One thing I'm having a hard time understanding with your comparison is that you compare a 1080p to a 4k remaster, but the re-release trailer is only displayed in 1080. Which won't represent the true fidelity. Not to mention that the 8 bit compression of youtube can't display HDR. So while it does look better than the original. It's still not representative of how good the theatrical, and eventually the 4k bluray will look.

[@AVTR]

It's the 4K version shown on Dolby's channel that I used, not the 1080p version that's on the Avatar channel.

[@tunnellightstudios5183]

@@AVTR ohh really? I had no idea Dolby had a 4K version!

[@tunnellightstudios5183]

@@AVTR just watched it! Way better than that 1080 upload on imax and avatar’s channels. Still the dreaded KZbin compression detracts from the quality. Also I’m not sure why they didn’t display it in 16/9 like it’s meant to be.

[@AVTR]

@@tunnellightstudios5183 totally agree so strange but yeah way better - like I say in the video tho we will only see it properly in the cinema!

[@butterman2409]

@@tunnellightstudios5183 I’m trying to decide to see this movie in imax or Dolby cinema. The Dolby 4k trailer did impress me but I think imax will be showing the expanded ratio but obviously no hdr.

[@overkillphil514]

No mention of 3D? I got my 3D Samsung for the 2012 UK Olympics and I've bought many 3D Blu Ray Discs of the Marvel movies. The best is the 3D IMAX Hubble BluRay. My friend thought it was 4K, but it was still only 1080p. The bit rate is the most important element, people always forgot that.

[@AVTR]

It will be in 3D!

[@comicbookguygamecat]

It's also in 3D.

[@Mr.House-2281]

oooh pretty colors haha

[@ajstruhar2048]

When doing the sound did they add dolby atmos?

[@colinbooth531]

I’ll keep the 3D, but I’ll buy the 4k in July, too. Weird that they’re releasing the OG weeks after the sequel in 4k.

[@daliilars3350]

Great. The darks look grey now.

[@AVATARJayden]

Amazing

[@davezorc]

I've read the live action shots were recorded in 1080p and the CGI was likely rendered at 2K... so this must be an upscale.

[@davadh]

Understandable that they did not re-render the CGI in 4K since (1) the live action footage were captured on 2K at the time, and (2) it would be insane to re-render the CGI in 4K considering they needed all the power the can to render out the sequel. I'm sure the upscaling from the 2K master will look great. Can't wait

[@bmwofboganville]

2k upscale + colour regrade + the smooth motion tech to reduce judder + Atmos

[@roberthodges3547]

JC says it's totally re-rendered 2 4k. They have super quantum computers now

[@bmwofboganville]

@@roberthodges3547 probably they can re-render each scene with great care, it's not some generic video filter pass. I'm confident it will look great 👍

[@AWW_YEA81]

Will they sell this version on bluray tho????

[@sonny8686]

when is it coming out on demand?

[@babahippogaming1262]

It just looks more colorful, I like that

[@drtaru]

good video, but cinemas are not HDR unless you specifically go to a Dolby theater.

[@OzMadMan82]

So they only bump up the saturation and highlights and it's a "remaster"??

[@J-Vasa]

There were a few scenes in the original where it seems like there are frame drops. It looks a little stop motion i guess. Wonder if i will still notice them lol

[@BlackCat.Designs]

Felt more like tracking glitches... I think cameron wanted all mathematicaly perfect even though it doesn seem natural... There are some of those slso in avatar 2

[@German_CG_Artist]

This is sooooo much work, must have bean incredible expensive

[@cg.man_aka_kevin]

They increased the resolution from 1080 so 4K is using AI (Artificial Intelligence) or a different technique?

[@AVTR]

I think they went back to the original and re rendered it? But not sure!

[@cg.man_aka_kevin]

@@AVTR Okay. I mean have to wait for the latest news... :)

[@arunsp767]

0:48 If you look at the clouds, you will see that the colours are not more vibrant. They're just "more bluer/greener". How are green clouds "far more natural" to you? The Original was good enough. Looked authentic.

[@sasha1811]

Can we download this remastered version somewhere?

[@ThecrazyJH96]

Won’t the 4K look like the original if you go for the 3D version since the glasses will shade it slightly?

[@LordJagd]

I do prefer the old look. The greenish tint makes it seem flatter.

[@ZiefM]

The new color grading makes the movie even more look like a video game than before. Amazing movie to sell big screens et theme park tickets. 🐭👍🏼

[@davepastern]

saw it in the cinemas today, was OK, but I don't really think the remastering has improved the film in a good way imho. To me, the digital SFX looked obviously digital now and lost a lot of their realness with the 1080p release. Upscaling from 2k to 4k hasn't done the film much kindness imho.

[@SomnathDas-ej3ve]

This will release in wider aspect ratio or not

[@Adamjboss187]

I hope to see these put out in 8k

[@arunsp767]

Why stop there? Let's go 16k, 32k, 64k

[@Adamjboss187]

@@arunsp767 lol I guess your right but my tv can only handle 8k for now

[@wetterschneider]

Hey, this movie doesn't look enough like a video game! Crank up the blowout everything video game graphics knob. Increase the resolution without adding any fine detail to the 3d graphics? Totally makes it more like a video game. Not that that's a bad thing, I love video game graphics. And I'm glad everyone's excited. This isn't a bad thing, it's just a thing. Question, is the 4k actually 4k? Or just upscaled 2k?

[@jefferson_3299]

is the remastered version release in the home media ?

[@ToastyFruitcake]

Maybe its just having had to endure so many reboots , remakes and re releases that just completely miss the point or add 'updated' visual and audio garbage to the perfectly good original (2000s and disney star wars additions for example), but this just concerns me honestly. Current film industry doesn't like letting us have nice things. I hope I'm wrong about this.

[@SomnathDas-ej3ve]

When this remaster edition will release on bluray

[@akshobramkumar5993]

IMAX Is best way to experience this

[@akshobramkumar5993]

IMAX HFR really has a difference

[@janhanger]

papyrus is together with comic sans now

[@shogenx]

the frame rate was the only thing seriously impacting the remake it really muddied up the visuals

[@Skaiser_Wilhelm7938]

Do you guys think there's going to be some finished scenes that were deleted from the theatrical cut?

[@TheStOne1]

No, it's the 2010 rerelease extended version (+ 8 minutes)

[@Bigglare]

if only we had 4K3D at home...

[@Ankara_Kaya]

So that's why the movie was removed from Disney. Because it will be released in the cinema again.

[@saricubra2867]

Color grading will not save the dated lighting from the original, a lot has changed since 2009.

[@sebastian11346]

And what about The Abyss and True Lies 4Ks? They arent even on blu ray!

[@AVTR]

They're coming!

[@sebastian11346]

@@AVTR Do you know when? Beacuse i have heard some rumors but nothing official, i thnink.

[@jamesvale1917]

True Lies is on Blu-Ray in europe I got mine from spain region free .

[@benkennedy4177]

It’s just like the Uncharted remasters. Even with side by side comparison, you can barely see a difference lol

[@Sluft]

Because of your little joke about the font I'm on a SNL sketch binge... again 😅

[@LILGHETTI]

One issue I heard is DNR and oversaturated of the human faces! I'm waiting for that sweet 4K blu-ray steelbook