Avatar The Last Airbender 2x14 REACTION and REVIEW | FIRST TIME Watching|'City of Walls and Secrets'

[@SpartanandPudgey]

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[@angelo7243]

Ahh the infamous "There's no war in Ba Sing Se" line 😅

[@Joe-cm5kl]

There are no bots in Ba Sing Se

[@KelappanKing]

"There's no Live-Action Adaptation of this series." 😅

[@mmxxiii9503]

"everyone is safe here"

[@eagleangel5568]

Heh I'm just SAYING please show me the people who want to live in ba sing sei lol please

[@LetsPlayCrazy]

There are no leaves on the vine in ba sing se!!! 😢

[@abelskie]

This episode about Ba Sing Se and GoT have taught me to manage expectations as things may not always be what they seem. Imagine Ba Sing Se being raised up since season 1 on such a pedestal as a beacon of freedom and refuge against the tyranny of the Fire Nation only to realize that was built on lies and propaganda.

[@SagaciousSilence]

Yeah, Ba Sing Se is basically North Korea. It’s frankly worse than the Fire Nation…

[@KillingMachine56656]

kind of like the United States government LOL

[@Baranello92]

Also important to note that Ba Sing Se is a classist based system. The multiple city walls segregates all the people by economic status yet everyone is told to think the same

[@Sinewmire]

Yeah. Earth, rigid, stratified, heavy.

[@KelappanKing]

​@@SinewmireLiterally - well said ❤

[@jackmanalope]

This episode is such a vibe shift and really marks a turning point in the series.

[@Jermrants]

Kinda like that and the certain season 3 episode…

[@atafakheri8659]

The dai Lee were a special regiment built by avatar kyoshi to help preserve cultural assets and heritage. Their first action during her life was Supressing a peasant uprising against the earth king because kyoshi was worried the peasants would burn the palace with all the paintings and statues Ang is basically being served the consequences of his sins in his past lifes

[@Someguyhere111]

I wouldn't say that Jet's motive was just revenge here. Imagine if, instead of Zuko and Iroh, it was two random firebenders you had never seen before. It's easy to take Zuko and Iroh's side when you know their story, but to Jet they're just two firebenders that've infiltrated the last safe bastion of the Earth Kingdom, and he's the only one who knows it. He definitely acted too rash, but it's not like when he attacked that old man who just happened to be Fire Nation, or tried to drown an entire village just to kill all the soldiers there. This time there was genuine reason to be concerned.

[@LuchoH838]

You’ve reached the coolest arc in ATLA, the Ba Sing Se arc and the Dai Li Arc - it’s so interesting and weird, happy to hear you liked it

[@thatsroughbuddy_]

I hate it lol

[@PotatoMan169]

The guy that plays Long Fang (head of the Dai Lee) also voiced Lex Luthor in the DCAU and Mr. Krabs from Spongebob.

[@abelskie]

There is no war in Ba Sing Se, me boy. Uk uk uk uk

[@KelappanKing]

And The Harbinger in John Wick 4 😎

[@mmxxiii9503]

I knew I heard his voice before

[@krystaloftheshores]

*Long Feng

[@oq1106]

The second half of book 2 is really a highlight of the show. I remember watching this for the first time and going "nah, I mean, they're just teasing this kind of topic, right - they're not literally going to go in on the surveillance state, this is a kids cartoon". And then they did :) Spartan is my spirit animal every time Pudgey starts shipping Zutara

[@streamspoart2671]

15:51 i love seeing aang's reaction, from smile talking with Toph to fully blushed saw Katara

[@nouraouni2819]

I think he blushes because she calls him twinkle toes, no? He’s still looking at Toph when he blushes and looks up at Katara a second later.

[@cjjackson2423]

​@@nouraouni2819She always calls him that though 😅

[@kzbw]

@@nouraouni2819 100%, if it was intended to be interpreted the way they interpreted it then it was very poorly animated.

[@Sinewmire]

Chilling episode, especially the end. I think it's fine to be frustrated at Aang, but as you say, recognising it's an important part of his personality. It's also very important to Aang, that as The Last Airbender, he keeps his culture's traditions and spirit alive. I'm glad you're enjoying this new arc! Ba Sing Se is fascinating, and such good world building.

[@rundownthriftstore]

Wait is the head of the Dai Lee voiced by Mr. Krabs???? How have I never noticed this!!!

[@StevenARC]

Yup! Clancy Brown himself

[@rundownthriftstore]

@@StevenARC also after watching Punisher and Lost recently I have to say the man is great at playing a Spook!

[@krystaloftheshores]

I didn’t know that!!! That’s super cool!

[@PHSDM104]

I thought his voice sounded familiar! That's Clancy Freaking Brown!!!

[@BoredOnlineBoardOffline]

The Dai Li are really such a fantastic shift in the type of enemy Team Avatar faces. So much more subversive and subtle than going head to head with fire benders.

[@riolkin]

I love how when it is very important, these kids come up with wicked strategies on the fly. But when it's not life and death, Aang and Sokka share a single brain cell and headbutt each other.

[@SagaciousSilence]

It’s funny how the Avatar gang were focused on saving the Earth Kingdom from the Fire Nation, yet now are like “yikes…. They’re worse than the Fire Nation!”

[@Real_Genji]

Considering that during Kiyoshi's era the earth kingdom literally almost conquered the ENTIRE planet... yeah they are pretty bad in comparison to the fire nation

[@BhBc8f8]

"They’re worse than the Fire Nation!” Idk about that

[@lanafrank6086]

10:35 I never noticed this. She says “I won’t get in the way” but at the same time she gets in the way (physically moves in the way of Toph) which is foreshadowing for the next few episodes. Such a cool detail👌

[@acaciopoliveira]

Spartan is giving the real drama of the Avatar... "he's going to have to do whats necessary!"... Moral philosophical point is, how much the path is justified by the endpoint or not! No War is actually the war to end wars!... But this is conversation for the last confrontation

[@CitroChannel]

Wow, I'm so lucky! I just got an invitation to Lake Laogai from the Earth King!

[@KelappanKing]

Great work!. This was one of the episodes I'd been looking forward to the most :) Regarding Aang's pacifism, I agree mostly agree with you. One thing to bear in mind: those philosophies are all he has left of his people, which might explain why he clings to them so closely. Through him and his adherence to their traditions, they live on. - As Toph pointed out in S2E9, Aang's preference for evasion and going around problems (rather than through them) is a personal flaw he needs to overcome (and a hindrance to learning a style as rough and direct as Earthbending). - Bumi said mockingly in their "fight" in S1E5 that avoiding and evading is a "typical Airbender tactic". - All the nations have flaws in their approaches and bending styles if you watch closely. Iroh also alludes to the characteristics of each nation when he teaches Zuko in S2E9. For every positive characteristic he pointed out, there's a corresponding negative characteristic. * People of the Fire Nation = desire, energy, drive and will. These, left unchecked, can lead to aggression, violence and imperialism. * People of the Earth Kingdom = diverse, strong, persistent, enduring. But they lack unity (being divided into several city states unlike the single centralised monarchy the Fire Nation has) and, though strong, are very rigid in their traditions and social systems, failing to adapt to changing circumstances (as you saw in this episode). * People of the Air Nomads = detached from worldly concerns, peaceful, free... but they were conversely inattentive, naive and scatterbrained (qualities Aang demonstrates early on) ... perhaps if they'd played closer attention to the world's politics sooner, the Fire Nation might not have been able to steal a march on them and wipe them out by ambush. Food for thought :)

[@davidreynolds5936]

You all are in for a treat, a few surprises and some tears as this season plays out.

[@mmxxiii9503]

12:07 the show making fun of them selves xD. Long Feng is a terrifying character: he keeps controls of Ba Sing Se and the Dai Li are his personal army. This episode hits differently from the others

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

I don't know why the concept of a non hybrid animal is wierd to them. Nearly every bird, bug & fish is a non hybrid. Most cats & dogs are not hybrids. Many reptiles & amphibians are not hybrids. Also if they're sticking to the canon the only "high society" Toph knows are her horrible parents & dumb earth bending teacher because according to the people in her town the Biefong's "have no children".

[@MrEvers]

one of my favourite episodes, and the one that truly made me a fan.

[@ryanoz3124]

The ending music is so perfectly creepy

[@sakutaro3musik486]

There is no war in Ba sing se is the biggest and most beloved meme in the Avatar Community and now I can open say it, finally :D

[@rjcwell770]

Lol Spartan always expects people in charge to be badass men but the show makes a lot of commentary about how people in power often are just there because of nepotism/money, not because of their actual skill.

[@LetsPlayCrazy]

"Why would they keep the earthking and not this strong figure?" ever been to a monarchy in modern day? The queen was beloved by her people. Imagine if brits didnt have that and all the prime ministers were kings... and every few weeks/months they'd crown a new one... it would be chaos. Its good to have a representative that everyone loves with more or less little power.

[@FabbrizioPlays]

You say "Aang has it within him to be violent" referring to the avatar state, but the avatar state quite literally isn't him.

[@thegentleartoffisticuffs6983]

It really is fine what you think about Aang's pacifism. Your reactions & opinions are after all, what we come here for!❤

[@tabaxi]

Even though I disagree with them, I still appreciate they're engaging with what turns out to be a central conflict throughout the series and especially in the final episodes. Their perspective is interesting!

[@elkins4406]

@@tabaxi I agree. Their perspective is very odd, from my point of view. But that's exactly what makes it interesting!

[@keny1555]

Kings ending up as stupid/useless figure heads with no actual power is something that's happened several times in Chinese history. I like the parallel here with Chinese history given how the earth kingdom is actually based off of 2 different Chinese dynasties.

[@corgiluver9718]

Love this episode. Continue to be here for your honest reactions to the show & especially your genuine enthusiasm while watching. Don't worry, it is clear that you understand that Aang, while being extremely powerful, is not a warrior at heart. It has been and will be a conflict that helps drive the drama in the plot. I just love how no one would predict the Ba Sing Se arc to involve mind control and the state's censorship of ideas. And the Iroh/Zuko interaction in book two is so good. Some of the upcoming episodes in this arc are my favorites.

[@jshirlee]

Totally surprised me when they used such a mature theme as fascism in this story arc. And it worked perfectly.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

Nah, this is North Korean style communist Juche Idea.

[@driezzy]

I think it's more Totalitarianism, no?

[@iwantcoconutv2877]

@@driezzy what's the difference

[@its_joey]

@@driezzy well totalitarianism is an aspect of fascism since fascism is inherently authoritarian so it can be used interchangeably in this context I guess

[@ericfalley]

Yeah, totalitarianism probably describes the situation at Ba Sing Se better, but the terms do often get mixed up. From my understanding, fascism usually involves some level of patriotic nationalism with a sense that they as a people are destined for greatness if they only remain true and pure to their country's original values. Authoritarianism usually arises out of a drive to enforce these values and filter out those who don't truly represent their nation.

[@darllington8995]

If Aang changes the way he is, the the airbenders’ culture is gone forever

[@TimberlakeTigerGirl]

I call bs: it'll only die if he dies without living long enough to produce an Airbender child. He's the Avatar; he can't just adhere to his birth culture and philosophy. Him unwilling to do what he needs to do, regardless of how he feels about it, nearly got him killed at least twice. As both the Avatar and the last of your kind, if you are dealing with someone as evil as Ozai and you've exerted every other avenue to stop them without killing and it fails. Can you honestly say that feeling like preserving your practically dead culture is more important than doing what is necessary (killing the bad guy)? Saving millions of innocent lives, saving the world and other cultures from suffering a similar fate? If it weren't for that energy bending cop out, killing Ozai was literally his only option to stop the war. Fact is that men who are willing to commit genocide with no remorse or hesitation cannot be reasoned with. And they are too dangerous to be kept alive.

[@darllington8995]

@@TimberlakeTigerGirl Agree, he would've killed Ozai, but it doesn't he shouldn't change anything else about him

[@charsonmendiola576]

OMG YOU GUYS WILL LOVE THE NEXT EPISODE PLEASE START IT ASAP

[@oriyanbarnes]

Man i CANNOT wait for you to get to a very specific episode and scene bc of some stuff that you said 🤭

[@stephentaylor3437]

"That's creepy" You have no idea how right you are!!!

[@corym.m.3084]

I love Ba Sing Se. It looks like this utopia but is really a twisted, hostage city.

[@dasunperera7734]

"There is no war in Ba Sing Se"

[@dreamfyre3868]

The guides are some North Korea type of „tourism“ control.

[@Sinewmire]

Yes, similar to post WW2 communist China, too. Er Hong talks about being such a tourist guide in her youth in her biography, Wild Swans. The Dai Li clearly take inspiration from several different organisations, including the Kuomintang secret police (whose durector was called Dai Li!) and the Guān scholar-beaurocrats.

[@commanderkorra3316]

Watch the Legend of Korra after this series, its really great. And Korra definitely brings it in her fights.

[@gandheezy6163]

Separately, Aang is a powerful warrior and Sokka is a master tactician, but when they team up they share a single brain cell and it is hilarious

[@thelegacyarceus]

Ba sing Se bears a lot of similarities to like China where there are things there that u can’t talk about freely as well

[@PHSDM104]

I remember Xiran Jay Zhao pointed that out in her review of Book 2.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

The two Episodes in question technically aren't a 2 parter. Nickelodeon (USA) aired the 2 Episodes as 1 so Netflix treats it the same way.

[@withxoutxlife]

Aww come on Spartan, you've never shipped any characters together? Not as big a fan of the relationship plotlines? At least Pudgey is having a bit of fun with that aspect of the story. 😜

[@ScootertrixStudios]

I really love both of your reactions and theories/discussion in each video. Videos like these are wonderful to listen to while I'm at work on the night shift. It's always so fun to see reactions to shows like Avatar and Game of Thrones. Both series are such emotional roller coaster rides and it's a joy to watch them through your eyes. I cannot wait for your future reactions as Avatar especially just keeps getting more insane. It's literally exciting seeing that you've posted a new video. XD Thank you for making such fun content!

[@TukaihaHithlec]

Never seen anyone expecting the fortune telling to have any validity or relevance past its episode’s end

[@DokkanG0D]

Aang definitely resembles gohan in that way for sure! Doesn’t want to fight but when it comes down to it he’s damn near the strongest being on the planet

[@timslade5808]

Tales of Ba Sing Se next....

[@_clavita]

And then appas lost days 😍😍 best episodes

[@DevlinBlake]

I bet the dili probably knew that Iroh and zuko were fire benders. But as long as they weren't actually bending any fire or causing any trouble, they decided to ignore it. After all, if you're not at war, there's no reason to hate fire benders who aren't causing any trouble.

[@kaijingarou6526]

4:43 That's it, express yourself, Pudgey! Pudgey? 🤣🤣

[@erikperhs_]

24:48 Zuko's not a really strong bender though lol

[@horsearcher6852]

Poor 1st judy

[@renegarza9]

There’s nothing like watching Spartan and Pudgy coming to the slow realization that Avatar is a pretty messed up kids show. Still very good, but a little messed up for a kids show. P.S. In think the correct political term for Ba Sing Se is a “bureaucracy”. It basically means a multi-layered government structure that is ruled by state officials, involves the separation of social classes and uses a number of rules and procedures to regulate everything from its economy, to it’s local environment, and even what kind of media or propaganda is fed to the public.

[@iandor1381]

It's okay to call us shitty... We know how we are. 😂

[@oscarluna4268]

2X15 next!! Can't wait. One of my faves to watch reactions to.

[@joaopfgomes]

Dai Li, the earth kingdom KGB

[@oriyanbarnes]

18:15 and from this moment on... Prepare for a way darker show

[@MattSamma]

Avatar, the children's series that suddenly gets dark as hell.

[@juniorsoccerlife2347]

Love y’all reactions to avatar

[@XanthoGrl]

Can't WAIT for the next episode

[@jdnaz1288]

Hell, the next 2 episodes.

[@UncensoredScion]

guys come the hell on, sitting there complaining about their takes on Aang without them seeing the whole series is sort of the most braindead approach ever. No one when watching this for the first time was thinking 'boy I sure do love the fact that Aang isn't taking the fight to the Fire Nation' we wanted to see him cut loose like they are. Let them enjoy the damn show without complaining about it.

[@riolkin]

Also, Joo Dee is scary, these episodes disturbed me a bit as a kid.

[@Swagg494]

One step closer to Tales Of Ba Sing Se. AHHHH

[@needyverse]

There is no war in Ba Sing Se 😊

[@user-wb2tm3hv8w]

At this point I should really consider Patreon since I watch both the current shows

[@BobGnarley.]

The Earth King has invited you to Lake Laogai..

[@Itsant33]

Its PTSD, jet was traumatized

[@_clavita]

I love the music theme for ba sing se, its so creepy

[@hakmanp.8702]

I felt attacked by the comentary of the coments 😅😅😂✌🏻

[@nd3469]

i really cant wait for book 3😁

[@DancingRayne]

There is no war in Ba Sing Se 😳 welcome officially to the city of walls 😅

[@shadden_x]

north korea tourism mustve been an inspiration for this lol

[@aidanlara2630]

I think you should keep in mind, that Aang is only 12 years old and handling everything pretty well…

[@ethanpost9774]

Spartan the word your thinking of dor Ba Sing Se is authoritarian or totalitarian to describe the isolation and control

[@acenull0]

I like to think that this is how life is under the CCP 😂

[@Vlad.Larionov]

I'm really looking forward to your reaction to the films Robocop and Robocop 3 👍👍👍

[@johannbredell9446]

Can't wait for tales of Ba Sing Se

[@KillingMachine56656]

lol ignore the haters. Idk why people think they can tell yu how to think. Aang is incredibly stupid at times, it's ok to acknowledge that, and its ok to acknowledge that he can do better and has done better.

[@Jonathan-ug9yu]

There is no war in Ba Sing Se 🤐

[@jmo759]

Have ya`ll been suggested to react to Dragonball Z abridged? If not, then maybe that could be one option to react to next.

[@Jermrants]

Avatar can be VERY creepy 😅😁

[@justanotherartist5646]

Love seeing the notification for these Avatar reactions 💪💯 Much love to you both, can't wait for the next ones

[@Papo030492]

Hopefully pudgy has tissues for the next 2 episodes

[@humayunkabir3814]

THERE IS NO WAR IN BASINGSE

[@dthenihilist4926]

Long Feng is voiced by Clancey Brown, AKA Mr.Krabs

[@jdouat7536]

?? Netflix are u guys using a VPN I'm like Avatar isn't on Netflix Aus 😂

[@LoseTime-d6m]

Is something like what happens in North Korea, or even at some levels, china. But North Korea is a better comparison to the level of cultural control that we see in Ba Sing Se

[@VcD-d4q]

have some tissues next to you, for next episode

[@tommysoliz3064]

Good stuff

[@StefEndz]

Anyway you guys can add Punisher to your list of shows to watch

[@togetherbewell]

So excited for the next episode 🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃

[@caitlinbrooks1085]

If you both like game of thrones, I think you'd enjoy The Last Kingdom

[@now1994]

Second this!

[@boomarcus22]

"Hopefully that hit the quota" 🤣

[@jubilantsleep]

8:00 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@westonpierce952]

17:37 Mauo Mauooo oh naur

[@Mike90317]

"Less passionaly" -she said. lol

[@TjayW12]

🔥🔥🔥

[@thyone3925]

In the beginning of the series Aang mentioned being a pacifist I think. He's sent Zuko flying a bunch of times. If he really wanted to he could end just about anyone

[@dansby37]

Creepy episode indeed

[@תאירזלצמן]

❤️🔥