Why Vegito VS Gokhan Isn’t Close

[@animixgamer7894]

Gohan: *Beaten half to death and holding his stomach* Goku: *Full hp and could’ve just teleported to Gohan and handed him the ring* Fans: It’s Gohan’s fault…

[@Bruzenn]

Goku throw that ring to far look where landed at but people still say it gohan fault

[@dontawilliams8433]

Yea, to be fair goku could have easily instant transmission’ed over to him….so yea it kinda is gokus fault

[@fg009letyrds8]

Cope, they're beings that could easily react to lightning strikes, that slow azz throw should be easy to catch

[@erickmontes2149]

@@fg009letyrds8 Goku can aim beams of energy from long distances and yet fumbles when throwing the earring... Seriously, look at where it landed,

[@mattys6106]

@@fg009letyrds8who said the throw was slow?…

[@LienChess]

Bro I read that as Go-Khan and thought you were powerscaling Vegito and Goku + Genghis Khan 💀💀💀

[@Latios55]

I don’t ever wanna imagine what he would do with the Universal levels of power

[@thejuicerisgone3215]

No u didnt

[@gjergj124]

Lmfaoo

[@Numbers-gStands]

If you fused goku and genghis khan you’d just get yujiro from baki

[@gjergj124]

@ lmao exactly

[@jaydonharris2126]

I can’t believe how people can put the manga statement about the “rival boost” on screen and still misinterpret it

[@raidenpainn1561]

What do you mean?

[@Toxicpunk01]

Elaborate

[@backan7404]

​@@Toxicpunk01 The rival boost is about fighting style the know so much about each other skill and style their personality. They skill and style become better.

[@Six-bw3ir]

​@@backan7404vegito is stated to be stronger than a potential gohan goku fusion this isn't a debate

[@fgggg8944]

@@Six-bw3ir I'm disappointed by your reliance on guidebooks (or your friends opinion from discord who has never even touched original dragon ball, but continues to spew out nonsense info that he got from a shorts video) that, regrettably, fail to accurately interpret most of the nuanced concepts within the Dragon Ball universe. “Oh! B-but the guide books said kid buu is the strongest iteration of buu!” Thats you.

[@OverlyEpux]

Vegito transforming doesnt imply he was weaker or relative to buuhan in base. SSJ1 has no drawbacks, he has no reason *not* to use it against buuhan.

[@DomiEE]

We all know he just wanted to flex his giant instantaneous laser cock

[@OverlyEpux]

@ nah. Gogeta blue was stated to be equal to broly in a guide, but he was far more skilled while Broly was just rampaging. It specifically said if broly fought calmly he would win

[@OverlyEpux]

@ nah. Gogeta blue was stated to be equal to broly in a guide, but he was far more skilled while Broly was just rampaging. It specifically said if broly fought calmly he would win

[@deaddead2783]

It was literally stated by buuhan that he doesn't even need ssj to beat him buuhan doesn't even scale to base vegito

[@dontawilliams8433]

@@deaddead2783where does it state that, was it in the manga or anime? Because the anime does show that they are relative somewhat

[@SpiegelsSolipsism]

Vegito has better base stats because of the various rival boosts and compatibility reasons. Gokhan has the ultimate form, which is way better than any super saiyan form. Base to base - Vegito Forms - Gokhan

[@danielhenry4365]

And let's not forget - Gokhan can probably use Kaioken alongside Ultimate. That would make him unbelievably strong. Vegito can probably use Kaioken too, but not with Super Saiyan forms (unless he has a dead body like Goku in the Pikkon arc, lol)

[@TomasBregman]

Gokhan > Vegito Ultimate Gohan >>>>> SSJ2 Vegeta

[@JSun3000]

Vegeta needs to finish learning all the yardrat techniques,have Elder Kai unlock his potential,then take a gravity room(in a capsule) into the hyperbolic time chamber and train with Future Trunks.

[@nothitler941]

The htc already has a higher gravity its destroy the outside of the capsule ship

[@fg009letyrds8]

​@@nothitler941No, it only has 10x, also outside is different from the inside where the inside maybe made of extreme materials that can withstand 500x gravity but not the outside.

[@rodthedigger2902]

Great video!

[@steffanofumo]

Gokahn stomps, even if there is a tangible rival boost, it’s not going to equate to the multiplication of Gohan much stronger power and a added form in Mystical that has no stamina drain, you can’t take a non tangible effect that even in universe is a just a speculation over the concrete power of Gohan that is then multiplied.

[@Vicioussensai]

It would be funny as hell to see Freida and cooler do the fusion dance in super.😂

[@dionysisnance4204]

Gohan could each bullet but not a earring just sad.

[@sparklemore2]

It’s just an off guard thing that happens to Vegeta and Goku as well. Post Goku Black arc, Goku gets hurt by a bullet which only just grazed his arm. In the Moro arc, Vegeta gets taken out of battle by a 🔥.

[@ClashMasterStudios]

Gohan has bad Eye Sight that's why he wears glasses

[@Jayy2real_Yt]

@ClashMasterStudiosSo does his eyesight get better when he's in super saiyan?

[@TacticalPressure2345]

Yea, because it enhances all of your senses

[@ClashMasterStudios]

@@Jayy2real_Yt i don't think soo maybe we have seen him take them off when he goes Super

[@dontawilliams8433]

This was a really good video, I came here believing gokhan would stomp but expecting you to use the infamous guidebook to say he loses, but I was pleasantly surprised to see that wasn’t the case. And I agree about the guide coming into question about it lining up with the inverse and it further losing its credibility by using “probably” instead of guaranteeing that vegito would be stronger (with it more than likely being simple hype).

[@ryzen1296]

Goku literally has instant tranmission, teleport to Gohan and then give him the earring. He literally does the same for Vegeta 😭

[@bartdoomguy]

bc he learned from his mistake. yea goku is kinda dumb for not giving it to gohan directly instead of throwing it to him ._.

[@RyanOwensWorldofTyros]

Its a multiplier so i do see gokhans being wat powerful. But its his son so thats weird. Would have been better to see vegeta and gohan fuse.

[@Sage-2002]

How do you do that black flowy line in the video ?

[@SeoulSavvy]

In DBZ Gokhan would easily win cuz he could definitely use Ultimate Mystic form while Vegito at peak in DBZ could use SSJ3.

[@6942-c8g]

Gokhan will win overall but that's for 1 reason because he has the ultimate form which unlockz potential and a fusion of Gohan and Goku would have a lot more potential to draw out than Gohan by himself and vegito only has ssj3 so that ultimate Gokhan form has to be atleast stronger than 400x

[@devanplays3509]

Bro we literally have an official statement that vegito would be stronger lol

[@benjaminbebans4974]

No he wouldn't and he doesn't

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Love your content ❤❤❤

[@maximvs272]

yo crazy idea but what if vegeta fuse with gohan??? would a hypotetical vegehan be stronger than vegito?

[@GodsNut]

I think Vegito should be the stronger since Goku beat kid Buu hand kid Buu in the anime at least is the strongest Buu, while Gohan got beat up by a lesser Buu.

[@Lunchbreakw]

Potara=Fusion stop hating on gohan

[@SpammytheHedgehog]

Gokhan is a much stronger potential than Vegito. Thanks to Gohan's real powerful potential.

[@brandonleemoss]

Bad writing and favoritism 😂

[@benjaminbebans4974]

No

[@InfernoCleric384]

Btw, Vegetto admitted that he underestimated himself (not to mention that his initial base ki was his resting ki, not his fighting ki) meaning he could have beaten Gohan Boo in base, but chose not to for ease. Also, the Potara = Dance retcons came from V-Jump, which also said that Gohan Boo = SSJ3 Goku, so take that as you will.

[@Memesarus]

Why are you saying gohan buu Instead of buuhan

[@deaddead2783]

​@@Memesarusu understood what he meant anyway

[@Memesarus]

@deaddead2783 just wondering why becuse it just looks out of place

[@Toxicpunk01]

No he used ssj because vegito thought he was permanently fused. So they wanted to test their power because it’s forever and minds well enjoy it

[@deaddead2783]

@Toxicpunk01 yh and he wanted to see what the body was capable of

[@ashuraomega1000]

Just because Vegito in the manga immediately transforms into Super Saiyan doesn't mean he's weaker than anime Vegito or that he can't take Buuhan in base. Elder Kai in the manga implies that base Vegito should be enough to defeat Buuhan and there's also the fact that base Vegito fighting Buu in the anime is just filler, it's extra scenes added onto the anime to pad out time, i don't see why manga Vegito also couldn't do this.

[@Crow_Rising]

On the matter of guidebooks, the way I see it is that the highest level of information is what is presented in the original manga itself. After this would be guidebooks directly authored by the series creator, in this case Akira Toriyama. However, even then if anything in the book outright contradicts what's in the original manga then I'd trust the manga over the guidebook. After this is direct statements from the author, though these are also to be taken with a grain of salt as sometimes these individuals will make things up on the spot for various reasons, such as to make a joke or to shut up fans asking the same question over and over or etc. After this are official guidebooks that aren't directly authored by the series creator. These are heavily subject to the interpretation of whoever wrote them and it's not unusual for these to get the thumbs up for release from the original author despite often having sketchy information in them. Even if the original author provided guidance, it's not too hard for things to slip through the cracks unnoticed or just allowed through due to not being a priority or etc. Then there's promotional material, as these will often just say whatever they want to make you want to buy something even if it's not strictly accurate. For example, advertisements for movies and even the text on the box for the physical product. Then finally, anime filler. So in summary, from highest to lowest priority in what should be trusted for information in my opinion: - The original manga (in the original language, though a faithful translation is good too) - Official guidebooks authored directly by the series creator (as long as they don't contradict the original manga) - Statements made by the series creator (grain of salt) - Official guidebooks not directly authored by the series creator - Promo material - Anime filler (Can sometimes be used as a way for the original author to squeeze more information in, but more often than not this is just here to draw things out to give the manga more time to come out while the anime is in production and isn't written by the original author. If the series creator doesn't outright state particular filler to be canon non-jokingly, it's not)

[@SAWhowhatnow]

i think something very important that wasn't discussed is that Gohan isn't a fighter like Goku and Vegeta are. he does not train, he does not practice or train, he is just overwhelmingly powerful. even if Gokuhan was stronger Vegeito would be the superior warrior

[@heroricspiritfreinen38]

This is not very important at all

[@puma21puma21]

Rival boost aint making up for the at least 4x boost Gohan has over Vegeta

[@Darkion-ed2me]

5:00 cant say what it means if he didnt fight him in base form in the manga it would just be an assumption

[@FrankAsagi]

The anime and manga are both Dragon Ball. Unless the anime contradicts the manga, it doesn't need to be disregarded. I say this to say the anime and manga versions of Vegetto are the same in regards to power, unless stated otherwise by Toei. The reason Vegetto initially fought Boohan in base is because the anime was too close to the manga and they didn't want to contradict the manga by overshooting it. Remember, Akira Toriyama, his editor, and his inker were the only ones working on the manga. Toei had entire teams working on each episode, which is why the art-style was so inconsistent at times. Boohan didn't assume Goku and Vegeta were going to fuse via the dance. When he was Bootenks, he heard Goku tell Gohan to put on the Potara earring so they can fuse. And Bootenks mocked him for it. This is annoying. There is no "rival boost." Old Kai's point was the reason Vegetto is so strong is because Goku and Vegeta are strong. They live to outdo each other, and in having that kind of mindset, they are strong. They don't just get a random boost from the Potara because they are rivals. Their rivalry is what fuels them improving themselves separately. And lastly, Potara has always been said to be a greater fusion than the Dance. But it was *NEVER* stated that one version creates a stronger fighter than the other. Only that Potara is better because: 1) It doesn't require a silly dance 2) It is permanent These were the only criticisms Old Kai brought up to differentiate the two methods of fusion.

[@danielhenry4365]

Gokhan is waaay more powerful than even a SS3 Vegito, if Gokhan is in Ultimate form. For all we know, Gokhan's Ultimate state probably brings out Goku's potential as well! Even IF SS3 Vegito's power is within the same ball-park (I can't see how) as Ultimate Gokhan - the SS3 form would drain Vegito while Gokhan stays in Ultimate with virtually no stamina/Ki drain. And let's not forget - I think it's very possible that Gokhan can use Kaioken alongside Ultimate. Even if he can only use standard Kaioken x1 - that's Gokhan Ultimate x2. He would be far, far too powerful for Vegito. And lastly, Gokhan having Gohan's blood technically makes him a Saiyan/Human hybrid. That alone could make him naturally stronger.

[@Vegitodaaaa]

Why is bro scaling fanmade concent :sobb:

[@Detectivewondertainment]

😂

[@Nwrfan1243]

Bros just mad he can’t win 😭🙏

[@Vegitodaaaa]

@@Nwrfan1243 SHADDDDDAP

[@AnimationsStudioza]

Real

[@Darkion-ed2me]

Its literally just scaling gohan

[@kevinsimpson9876]

8:02 whats this ost called?

[@cryptedz7664]

1/100th of goku and vegeta were relative to ssj3 gotanks after the fusion amp they got after defusing

[@stephenchambers7972]

I still think broly has the most broken and cracked potential in the whole franchise.

[@VolKNo0]

What about Frieza?

[@MRBass6000]

Broly has way more potential than Frieza. Remember that frieza trained for 4 months then Trained even more in heaven and even got stronger after that from the tournament of power. And after all that he still got his ass whopped for an HOUR STRAIGHT by a broly that for the first time in his life didn't fight a low tier fodder like paragus. If broly trained for 1 year he would destroy black frieza easily.

[@stephenchambers7972]

@@VolKNo0 he would be second then Gohan in my opinion but broly is on another level

[@stephenchambers7972]

@@MRBass6000 not to mention how quickly he adapts and grows even stronger during long drawn out fights because of his insane saiyan battle prowess.

[@Jayy2real_Yt]

@@MRBass6000Frieza in 4 month went from below goku ssj names to being as strong or a lil stronger than goku and vegeta in ssjb. He didn't win because he did isn't know how to control his power and it drained his stamina. Also frieza training in heaven was mostly mental and ki training so that his golden form is more efficient.

[@dieselx999]

They should've made this fusion and switch it up a bit. Goku and vegeta fusing got old it's only them and gotenks who can fuse

[@alexrobinet7576]

Stanima * takes a drink*

[@Ty1Master]

people did not watch the show where was it gohans arrogance that got him absorbed he got absorbed after he had the earring and goku said yeah buu lost a third of his power no need to fuse now

[@seawarrior954]

El Manga Legendario is copyrighted by Toriyama’s personal studio (bird studio), and the original text was created BY shueisha. That’s as official as it gets. EML is just a translation of that text.

[@lordraiden7397]

The Spain publication isn't even the original translation. It's the french

[@dontawilliams8433]

Which he already said is official, but official doesn’t mean it’s canon to the inverse of the story (not to say it isn’t)

[@jordanglasper1064]

The Dyson shoe seven is completely unreliable when it comes to fusion-based multipliers. The reason why I know you’re wrong and what you’re saying. It’s because the variables are the same which ever the fusion technique we’re talking about. It doesn’t matter which technique is used because the variables that are the same is Goku and Vegeta. Think of a math principle or a math problem. And you use a concept/formula to solve the problem the integers are the same in another concept you still come up with the same answer because you don’t have different integers you don’t have different variables. Goku and Vegeta are the same variables whether it’s on the left side fusion dance or the right side the Patara fusion. The outcome the power equation is the same as sum total. Relying on the guidebook that is very shaky and unreliable when it comes to power scaling consistency.

[@Ando1428]

Actually it is closer then you think. Gohan took damage. A lot of damage. So gohan power would be weaker then he is at full power. Goku and vegeta in both anime and manga make sure to use senzu before fusing in super and in z vegeta and goku werent as damaged.

[@boredbox]

I was thinking about another death note video. What anime character would do a better job of being Kira than Light(I say anime character cause of course batman would probably do a better job than him)

[@SeoulSavvy]

Plus in DBS if Gokhan debuts he can use Beast form as well while in such what-if Scenario a Beast Gokhan would easily defeat a Perfected Ultra Instinct or Ultra Ego Vegito too.

[@AnimationsStudioza]

@@SeoulSavvy easily is a overstatement

[@jordanglasper1064]

2:06 ” but they were able to tap into super Saiyan three and become stronger than Super Buu.” Let the wrecker stay he’s talking about SSJ3 gold tanks. Also the statement you just made is completely not true it’s entirely false. Receive based on the fight as well as specific reference by Piccolo “Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks is equal to Super Buu.” We can trust what piccolo saying is absolutely 100% the truth. Why? Because piccolo both witnessed a fight between Gotenks and Super Buu. He also witnessed both of them perform and identical feet of breaking out of the Hyperbolic time chamber. After witnessing this and witnessing the fight across the planet piccolo deemed both of these warriors equal. Both in manga and anime is highlights the Buu Arc.

[@YourboyStink]

If Gokhan was a real fusion it would last 0.0001 seconds

[@miggyalcomendras8468]

Vegito has the rival boost, Gokhan dosent, better potential won't get you anywhere if you can't tap all of it due to Vegito's significant power + stat advantage. Debate over.

[@jordanglasper1064]

6:25 you’re creating a problem where there is none. I’ll give you an example in the manga you have events a and C. But in the anime you have a Events a BNC. There is no B in the manga but even if there was it doesn’t change the major events which are a NC. So essentially when you have to solve a math problem with some form of complex math you have to equalize it so in order to do so anything you do to the left you have to carry over and do to the right. So like if they say for the less you have -2 you have to go to the right and also put negative to the left represents the monger the right represents anime. But instead of caring it over identically you’re changing the integer when it was never supposed to be changed because it’s one of the same whether you’re using the manga or the anime. I’ll give you an example on the left side of the equation you have -2 what when you go to the right side of the equation which is the anime. I’ll give you the perfect example in the freezer ark the manga Goku’s power level as a super Saiyan is 150 million, what you’re essentially doing is OK transferring it over to the Anime and Saiyan Old Gohan Hwy Power Hwy Level is no longer 150 million an anime it’s 180 million. You see that you’re making a change with her what is no change. Because there are events that take place in the anime it don’t take place in among what it doesn’t have to take place in among us because they are synonymous to each other you don’t have to do any extra math you don’t have to do any head gymnastics you can take it for what it is. They are synonymous to each other they are one and the same. And that’s with you and so many things keep getting wrong y’all are making problems were there are none y’all are making complications with that shows to be simplicity.

[@superrobo]

To be honest the daizenshuu should be the one with most credibility because of what Toyirama said that it is more trustworthy than himself

[@jordanglasper1064]

Let’s talk about Gohan for a moment. I don’t have the timestamp mark for when you spoke to him. So I’m just gonna speak freely. Everything you just stated about Gohan was wrong. Except for him getting stronger that is true. But even in that context he’s not stronger than everybody else that part is wrong. You are also calling him to have a new transform state or a new transformation. But then you contradict yourself in the same breath by saying he doesn’t even need to transform. Do you know why he doesn’t need to transform because all of his inner potential was unlocked in his base form. This is not a transform state. It’s not called Mystic it’s not called ultimate this state is called base form. Also Gohan was one of the week is fighters in this particular arc he wasn’t the weakest but he was one of the weakest ones he surpassed Vegeta Gotenks Super Saiyan Three Gotenks. But it never mentions that he ever surpassed Goku for a reason and a purpose. Because he did not. Now that I cover Gohan I can move forward with the next point to disprove.

[@Skivv5]

Well vegito's cool as fuck so idk

[@Ringoismybirdo]

If anybody thinks vegito could win ultimate is a free win at this point as unlocking a fusions potential is broken

[@androidsenpai1462]

I mean, no shit. Gohan was WAAAAAY stronger than Vegeta by then. The only way Gokuhan doesn’t win is with wardrobe choices.

[@AnimationsStudioza]

@@androidsenpai1462 that’s crazy 😭

[@jordanglasper1064]

I’m gonna take a break cause I have to get back to work and focus on that. But I’ll leave it with this I’m not I’m intentionally not watching the rest of this video so I can make an analysis on the real. The fusion of Goku’s and Gohan is far more potent far more powerful and far more elevated then the fusion of Goku and Vegeta. It’s Goku in a potential which is greater then go hot but they both have massively hi in a potential when you combine there in a potential they become so powerful it’s almost unfathomable. Think about it the elder Kai was not expecting Goku and Vegeta to become as powerful as they work when they fused baby Keem so strong that as Vegito in his baseborn he was far more powerful than Boo Han. So that’s Goku and Vegeta‘s in a potential mixed together as one warrior. Imagine how massively overwhelmingly exceedingly and exaggeratedly powerful the fusion of Goku‘s in a potential and go hunt in a potential fused into one being would become. They would mud stop the fusion of Goku and Gohan would ultimately easily mud stark the fusion of Goku and Vegeta. Why? Because Goku‘s in a potential and go hunt in a potential are so massively powerful when you combine that it is easy to see why it is far greater then go cruise in a potential mix with Vegeta‘s in a potential. Because go hunt in a potential is far more massively powerful it’s far more massive and far more powerful than Vegeta Center Potential. It’s a simple calculus. If that is it the conclusion that he comes to by the end of this video she doesn’t know how to power scale correctly and he doesn’t understand the concept based narrative as well as characterization and inner potential growth. Enter potential does not stay dormant or at a certain level from the moment of the birth. Goku proved in a potential grows massively he started off the weakest saying possibly in the history of his entire generation and era. I brought his life he grew to become the most powerful sans in all of existence. Goku‘s in a potential grows massively it shows why he’s able to gain new or more powerful transformations. No one else is able to do it the way Goku can’t the way Goku does that’s why Goku’s inner potential is the greatest.

[@jordanglasper1064]

5:22 You are completely wrong again. Anytime a Majin boo is shocked that is usually a denotation that the character they are versus is stronger than day themselves. That boo was shocked by Goku. Super boo was shocked by Gohan. Now you have super boo Gohan absorb shock by Vegito base form Vegito. That is denotation that Vegeta is stronger than himself. He cheated to gain more power. So Goku and Vegeta had to see if you will in order to gain more power than him. It’s checks and balances that’s what it’s all about. To add onto the nature and the character of Majin boo, Kid Buu was shocked when Goku use it was gathering energy for the spirit bomb. Because he understood Goku was gathering energy enough energy in the spirit bomb to be far more powerful than Kid Buu himself. Siri the outcome Kid Buu was trying to kill Goku before he could gather more than enough energy stronger than Kid Buu himself. Again the book of shock is universal which means oh someone stronger than me or they’re gaining power to become stronger than me.

[@spectacledpikachu6391]

Isn't Gohan and Goku fusing kind of incestuous. I'm always very creeped out by this possibility.

[@borjaarellano9966]

If it was Steven Universe,then yeah probably

[@mtsfmmm5521]

Its not anything sexual though? More so magical

[@alexanderliew3415]

Gohan being much stronger than Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta is enough reason.

[@ppppppppppppp2972]

Yeah I think gohan was a little stronger than ssj 3 goku at that time

[@Dududeias]

Dude, it was NOT Gohan's fault

[@brandonleemoss]

Gohan is trash 😊

[@rinneganvision_quest9592]

Gokhan would be stronger than vegito for three reasons 1. Gohans potential 2. Goku’s natural fighting talent 3. The fusions of blood relatives was said by elder Kai to be more compatible thus making the fusion stronger and better suited.

[@dontawilliams8433]

Wait, when did he say that blood relative stuff?

[@rinneganvision_quest9592]

@ I think it was either dbz when he first introduced the potara or dragon ball super during the tournament of power when they were debating if android 17 and 18 should fuse

[@dontawilliams8433]

@@rinneganvision_quest9592 hmmm, do you have the chapter perchance?

[@cosmicthanos]

isnt gokhan just 75% goku

[@tyler-qr5jn]

or 25% bardock

[@Tweaking_Gohan]

​@@tyler-qr5jn or 25% gine

[@giulianopisciottano8302]

​@@tyler-qr5jn gokhan would actually be 37.5% bardock And 37.5% gine

[@AnimationsStudioza]

@@giulianopisciottano8302 real

[@MindoftheNorthStar]

I will always downplay anything Gohan related AFTER the Cell saga. I'm saying Vegeto, simply because hes "Gohan-less".

[@AnimationsStudioza]

Nah this is some next level hating 💀

[@MindoftheNorthStar]

@AnimationsStudioza Someone: "Here's a source saying Gohan is the strongest unfused character" Me: "Well in the anime..." Yeah I'm that guy. I woke up early on a Sunday to hate on post Cell saga Gohan 😕

[@axiom6000]

@@MindoftheNorthStarI’m actually like this too but ONLY for the Buu saga.

[@KristopherDorsey-rq8ek]

​@axiom6000 I don't blame you guys one bit since Gohan turned himself into a bum to be honest.

[@MindoftheNorthStar]

@@KristopherDorsey-rq8ek the thing is that he turned himself into a bum _TWICE_ which endangers everyone. I can see if you fall off once, but you gotta learn from that. Had Gohan been training just a little bit, Buu wouldn't have been a problem. Hell Beerus may not have bullied everyone or at least he wouldn't have gotta embarrassed. Frieza wouldn't have been a problem in Resurrection F. So he wants to be a bum, then I'll treat him like one

[@Ponera-Sama]

"Goku and Vegeta both have high battle power, but they're very aware that they are rivals, especially Vegeta, who was once the prince of all Saiyans. This rivalry between them makes Vegito even more powerful; *Had Goku fused with Gohan like he intended, they never would have reached such a level."*

[@heroricspiritfreinen38]

This quote doesn't exist You just made it up

[@Ponera-Sama]

It's from El Manga Legendario, an official guide made by Bird Studios

[@Ponera-Sama]

@SpeedersLM El Manga Legendario was made by Bird Studios who were essentially Toriyama's personal team and was supervised and approved by him.

[@Vegitodaaaa]

Could patrick jane catch dexter Morgan? Seems like a banger

[@RamiSoe]

La Pasion

[@Vegitodaaaa]

@@RamiSoe fair point

[@CrimsonMysteryCake]

The way I look at it is Vegito is far greater than the sum of his parts. There's no reason Vegito should be able to even hurt Buuhan if you JUST look at the sum of their parts (Goku + Vegeta vs Majin Buu + Gohan + Goten + Trunks+ Piccolo) but Vegito eclipses Buuhan. Vegito's strength isn't just battle power but Vegeta & Goku's shared experience, shared battle IQ, shared desire to grow stronger. Problem with Gokhan is that while Gohan would give the fusion more battle power Gokhan would get none of the other things that make Vegito so strong. Since Gohan is inexperienced Gokhan would also not understand how to use their immense power same way Vegito does, Gohan's reluctance to fight would also hurt the fusion. I actually think Gohkan would have a father-son debuff since Goku can sometimes be a bit too soft on Gohan and not push him as much as he should like Piccolo said. Vegito is just a far more complete warrior than Gokhan would be and thus should be far stronger.

[@jordanglasper1064]

7:19 Catora fusion is stronger than the fusion dance. Your words. That’s where you’re wrong. Again you’ve been wrong this whole time about Darner everything prior to this you’ve been wrong Sanne Gotenks Way Stronger Del Super boo. You were wrong when you stayed in Gohan stronger than Goku. And now you’re wrong again when it comes to the using techniques. Goku and Vegeta represent a and B those variables don’t change whichever fusion you use because their power never changes the only time the variable will change is when you use a different character to fuse with one of the two. Big mark pink. When the elder Kai said the Patara fusion is stronger wasn’t talking about the result of the Warrior. He was talking about the result of the technique because it was the implication that the Patara fusion was permanent for old race of being. But it’s not till later on that we learn it’s only permanent fusion for Kaioshin. The Petar fusion is only permanent for one hour. One hour is more than enough time for them to defeat their opponent. The reason why they did not defeat their opponent is because the fusion warrior video was so super intelligent he was figuring out a way to become absorbed so he could rescue their friends and family I’m gonna say it again because you’re not actually doing it, Bing Mark think. You guys are not using your brain you don’t possess common sense because you’re not actually using your brain. What I’m speaking on is common-based sense. And if you don’t use your brain in the way you need to you won’t have the ability to even possess common sense. Think of Goku and Vegeta‘s power levels and or their inner potential power level can also be equated to inner potential. Goku is in a potential is nine páginas in a potential is three when you combine three and nine on the left side it equals 12 when you combine three and nine on the right side it still equals 12 there is no change. Now the difference in the reason why the elder Kai said the Pretoria fusion was stronger is because like I said they thought it was a permanent fusion there is no weakness of separation that is the context that is the point. When it comes to the fusion dance there is a 30 minute time limit there is no one hour it’s only 30 minutes. The technique of the Patara fusion is stronger then the technique of the fusion dance they thought it was permanent now they learn it was wrong now they know it’s only one hour so even with that one hour that’s 30 minutes longer making the fusion technique stronger when it comes to Patara fusion over the fusion dance. I’m gonna keep saying this until you get it pink mark pink. No check this out I’m not a genius but the way I’m talking yo call me one. Cause I’m the only one to figure it out then and now.

[@EriPages]

#RivalryBoost is insane

[@EriPages]

But at the same time, we're all forgetting something: Gokhan would be a HYBRID Human-Saiyan....he's 1/4th or 25% Human....giving him a natural crazy #HybridVigour boost

[@oceanicblaze-o_b-9752]

Im just saying Goku = SSJ3 Vegeta = SSJ2 Gohan = Ultimate Pretty sure its obvious which fusion is stronger 😭

[@AnimationsStudioza]

@oceanicblaze-o_b-9752 *“BuT gOkU aNd VeGeTa HaVe A rIvAl BoOsT”* ☝️☝️🤓🤓

[@oceanicblaze-o_b-9752]

@AnimationsStudioza 2 stronger forms >>>>>>>> frig the rival boost 💀

[@rageikku9398]

So wouldnt it mean that filler episode are canon to powerscaling 😂😂😂

[@casualcrusader1547]

in their respective continuity (ie the anime) then yeah you can use it. you just cant use it in the manga continuity

[@Kell_SOM]

Bro that wasn't Gohan fault I didn't catch Goku can't throw

[@tusantus]

goku can somehow throw a frog into a beam of energy that even himself cannot dodge (offguarded) in frieza saga while heavily injured btw and then in buu saga his aim got wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy worse which is wild

[@Hardtienedit]

Gogeta clears regardless

[@jumpintheairxd]

gokhan vs hanku

[@dontawilliams8433]

So going based off manga = Gokhan slamming low diff With guidebooks = vegito winning

[@VidelxSpopovich]

Gohan is terrible.

[@GimenewzSteven]

I think Vegito is stronger, Vegito's strength stems from the superior Potara fusion mechanics (the rival boost), the complementary synergy of Goku and Vegeta was stated to make Vegito the perfect fighter, and his proven feats in both the manga and anime. While Gokhan might be stringer in strength and speed due to Gohan's latent abilities, Vegito's combination of raw combat experience, expertise of martial arts, synergy, and skill makes him the stronger fusion.

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[@GreyLeo]

Yeah I honestly believe they would have been called Hanku maybe Kuhan but not Gokan its too close to the name Gohan

[@JayHawk-z7z]

In the anime ssj goku or ssj vegeta>ult gohan so gokhan is losing in the anime

[@mega-dragoooon942]

ssj goku/vegeta is in fact not stronger than ultimate gohan

[@JayHawk-z7z]

@mega-dragoooon942 yes he is in the anime they beat an FULL strength ultimate gohan in ssj by himself.

[@mega-dragoooon942]

@JayHawk-z7z the clones made in buu are likely not as strong as original

[@JayHawk-z7z]

@@mega-dragoooon942 I think buu himself of the narrator says they are + kid buu is the strongest in the anime

[@JayHawk-z7z]

@@mega-dragoooon942 I would agree if this was the manga

[@Umbra_Okkotsu]

Ya keep calling him "Gokhan" like "Kuhan" don't make better sense

[@rageikku9398]

So wouldnt it mean that filler episode are canon to powerscaling 😂😂😂