Vegeta vs Android 18 was a TACTICAL Matchup

[@timclaridge8458]

Moral of the story: Do not let the androids drag out a fight, they will outlast you.

[@GhostWriter-Gohan]

I'm writing this one down

[@JJJJ-he8bz]

She was toying with him the whole time. Vegeta never had a chance no matter what

[@TyphlosionGirl]

Totally why they were a great pick for the Tournament of Power

[@rubberwoody]

The way you create real mma style narratives around a show ive watched for decades is so nice. One of my new most anticipated uploads in my feed

[@wor2xfs250]

Same here

[@MarcelxDD]

Same

[@lukaslavergne6582]

Same

[@IfritD.Jamble]

You really deserve more subs bro. KZbin needs more unique hardworking people like you.

[@SensibleSaiyan]

Thanks man, I appreciate it

[@QS4LBanks]

​@@SensibleSaiyan He's rightt bro and I'm going to use you as like a teacher for myself when I start making my own content. Good stuff man much respect 👏🏽

[@TienMostPowerfulEarthlingOfAll]

He’s growing bro it’ll happen

[@graterthan3628]

​@SensibleSaiyan for real man. Like watching your fight breakdowns makes me appreciate dragonball z so much more. Like you catch elements of the fight that I absolutely miss, and there is some legit storytelling in the fights that I would miss if it wasn't for these videos. Amazing work, man.

[@Fishkhan1]

How many subs does he deserve. 100k? 500k? 1m?

[@Lowclasswarrior778]

Crazy how people say dbz doesn’t have well choreographed fights when you take time to slow it down you can see how detailed it is it’s just they are characters that move faster than light so it’s all sped up

[@SensibleSaiyan]

Idk who says that but throw their opinions in the bin

[@DivineRageX]

@@SensibleSaiyanI think it’s when dragon ball uses a lot of the same frames for fights , people think it’s all copy and paste BS

[@tcwentertainment]

Old dragon ball z is a bit different. I think pre buu DBZ has mean fights but super? Not the greatest

[@entertheomniverse727]

​@@tcwentertainmentnah super has a lot of solid fights I'm low-key tired of the hate on super I enjoyed it start to finish

[@DesX42S]

@@tcwentertainmentsuper has better choreography and martial arts than people give it credit for. GT probably has the worst.

[@somemong989]

1:45 DEFENSIVELY RESPONSIBLE 🛡️🛡️🛡️

[@SensibleSaiyan]

He put the shields up

[@ArtsLikeCool]

W

[@gabdraws7003]

So shes not just strong, she is at least a competent brawler. Kind of wonder who they were before being roboticized

[@ivanbluecool]

Android 18 on her multi generational/timeline fade of vegeta and Goku's family lineage.

[@he_who_has_no_name]

6:43 I got Piccolo. I see them as being close in power, though Trunks a bit stronger. But Piccolo's fight IQ is far higher so he'd get the win.

[@SensibleSaiyan]

I agree. Would’ve loved to see a sparring session from the two

[@he_who_has_no_name]

​@@SensibleSaiyanyeah, would've loved to see Piccolo teach Trunks *how* to fight. Plus, when thinking about who'd win I didn't even take into account the whole army extend thing Piccolo can do. So he has a massive reach advantage.

[@AJanimate1]

I think trunks might win, I haven’t seen the anime in a minute but I think this is before piccolo absorbed Kami ,and even with the three years of training and trunks was training too right? But maybe piccolo wins🤷‍♂️

[@THENemesisXX99]

Yeah I cant blame Trunks for lacking though. Hes like what? A teenager or in his early 20s at best when he gets here. All of the best fighters were gone and there was only Future Gohan who is disciplined but doesnt have the same level of instruction his main counterpart has. Plus he only trained Trunks for a few years I honestly think its less than a year before Gohan got killed. Trunks pretty much had to figure out a lot of this on his own and despite being in a brutal environment. Its doesnt produce the same results as Vegeta's environment since he is self taught as well.

[@samajai4638]

@@THENemesisXX99only thing that has confirmed amount of time trunks had before he went back in time for the 2nd time was kakarot which if I’m remembering correctly was like a couple of months making him 17/18(if his birthday passed) but yeah future gohan told him (in the manga) that trunks could surpass him with a couple of months (trunks had ssj in the manga pre gohan death) with gohan being gone having no one to train or being properly trained potentially stunted his growth

[@Stungun48]

This is a really good channel for new artists to learn and understand story boarding and newer animators to learn about fight choreography

[@gabdraws7003]

I feel this

[@theparadoxzone87]

Vegeta was blinded by the fact at this point he thought a super saiyan was Invincible. He learned that lesson the hard way.

[@zeroelus]

I’ve seen this fight many times but it seemed closer to me without the detailed breakdown, seeing it frame by frame it’s even more definitive. And then Vegita goes and makes similar though not as bad a clown of himself vs Perfect Cell, like he didn’t quite learn, even if he did catch cell off guard with the final flash a bit. Amazing work, and merry Christmas! Have a good one, man!

[@Ruduwulf]

Me: Say the words! SS: ... SS: "Defensively responsible" Me: 🥳

[@JJJJ-he8bz]

This was Vegeta worst beat down for me. He worked so hard and died trying to become a super sayain just to get his ass beat by a teenage girl. She wasn’t even trying to kill either which makes it that much more humiliating. It’s funny that 18 is the cause of two of vegeta most embarrassing moments

[@StareachValcin]

This is definitely Android 18's best fight in the series. Not only was she clearly stronger than Vegeta at this point, but she fought smart against him, especially since Vegeta is a fighting genius with more experience than her. This was a humiliating moment for Vegeta because he finally became a super saiyan, quite possibly surpassing Goku and being the strongest of the Z-Fighters, only to be legitimately defeated by Android 18. She legitimately made super saiyans obsolete. Worst of all, 18 was the weakest of the Android trio consisting of herself, 17, and especially 16. So, Vegeta being the strongest known saiyan at this point had 3 people stronger than him. It was a major blow to Vegeta's ego, especially when Future Trunks warned him about the strength of the androids. Not to mention that the present androids were stronger than the future androids. This is still my favorite fight of Android 18, and she deserved the win for humbling Vegeta.

[@bcleary120]

The most wild part about this fight is that Vegeta's ass-whooping was completely self-inflicted. He initiated the fight in the first place, talking all manner of shit and basically bent over and presented his ass before 18 for her to kick. Geets gets his shit rocked on a fairly regular basis but I think this is the only time where this could have been completely avoided if he just shut the hell up and left well enough alone.

[@cristiansaucedo4707]

But he wasn't going to shut up and leave well enough alone. We all know how Vegeta was at that point lol

[@bigdaddynero]

Raditz vs Farmer was a BLOWOUT

[@wolfshocker1]

This is one of my favorite channels, Gotta be honest. Rewatching these fights and analyzing them is somehow just so fun

[@yoyokid8]

Actually though. I can rewatch these videos as many times as I can and not get bored.

[@eriktarte2743]

These are beautiful analyses

[@jacobcrowley1675]

Perfect explanation of 18 VS Vegeta

[@JuanPablo-ev2kn]

"Aye Krillin where you at?" ... ☠️

[@Niall_Sene]

18 humbled Vegeta here, and the way she broke his arm solidifies how cooked he was. Loved the vid, the callbacks you made to 17 and Piccolo's fight got me man 😂.

[@DLxxx]

He needed it though. Bros ego was _out of control._ My guy was literally attacking and insulting his own allies because they were trying to protect him, lol.

[@Taiyama2]

I'm eternally amazed both at how much thought there is in these fights and how well you can spot everything.

[@TheChosen-of4lb]

8:05 ay yo, u roastin Metal Frieza about him havin leftover refrigerator parts on him got me ☠😂🤣

[@tacitidesong]

These breakdowns really show how great the choreography is in some of these fights. Love this series.

[@jmsyuh5776]

Vids keep getting better

[@SmartManAwesome]

great video after finals to cool off, thanks dude!

[@lumineinfinitussilverkagat8094]

6:43 I say Piccolo not only for the better fight IQ but because he trained with Super Saiyan Goku so he's somewhat close to his level while Trunks is weaker then Goku even before the three year training arc

[@Flaris]

Nothing taken away from 18. This may have pretty much been her only fight of the saga...but it was a good one! Absolutely handled this fight! That arm crush is right up there with other decisive moments in DBZ for me. The message was sent. The Androids were an insane threat! This fight honestly had so much going for it. I agree. Vegeta didn't have many options. 18 wasn't engaging and he had to push the issue. His only other "option" was to back off. But he's a Saiyan, he's not doing that! Credit to Vegeta for hanging in there. While 18 played the match beautifully, she also had the edge the whole time. Even when fully fresh Vegeta wasn't as strong as her. Like you said maybe if he went absolutely nuts in those moments where he had her then maybe. But it's tough. No scouter obviously and couldn't sense her energy. Plus the reputation of the Ginyu Force legit had him shaken. He just didn't know how cornered he was until it was too late. Also fair point on Trunk's low fight IQ. It's not all his fault since for his formative years his only trainer...was Gohan. Smart guy, but training mastermind he isn't. Though credit to Trunks in that he at least is merciless. When he can kill his opponent...he generally does! But yeah it says plenty that Piccolo could figure this out at a glance. If they fought right now...I'm not betting against Piccolo. He is the man! Raw power goes to Trunks still, but Piccolo...is a junkyard dog. He knows how to dig deep...and he remembers! Love the idea that he was looking forward to paying 17 back for those big hits! Also wow Krillin. Really losing that credit you earned in your fight versus Piccolo. Just standing around glazing Goku while everyone else is fighting! All for keeping the Cell Saga running. But now I'd be down for a Ginyu Force set of matchups or maybe giving Yamcha a bone by showing some of his good fights (or just that fight against the Saibaman). How is the latter even called? A draw?

[@T-heehee]

When Sensible Saiyan uploads you KNOW you’re in for a treat. 10/10 as always bro

[@T-heehee]

Oh, and Trunks has that 1v1 locked in

[@Jayflay13]

The Lineal champion is out for blood is one of the best and worst lines in reference to Vegeta ever lmao

[@DarkCT]

beautiful break down. 18 taking advantage right here was a heck of a show.

[@Dingdongfuggas]

Piccolo's 'ahahaha' will never not make me laugh

[@dionysisnance4204]

I love how you break down these fight vegeta vs 18 has always be one of my favourite vegeta fight.

[@aGemInI96]

Your attention to detail with showing not just the fighter’s precision strikes and techniques, but also their characteristics that emphasizes the SELL of the fights. You COOKED~! 🔥

[@Nobodysurvivesevenonebit]

Vegeta never dare to say anything bad to 18 after that fight 😂😂😂

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Yeah, Vegeta's gotten the message. And 18 made sure he heard it.

[@Flaris]

Yeah he was very quiet when it came to letting Cell absorb her ;).

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

@@Flaris I have to wonder if his reason letting Cell absorb Android 18 was in part revenge for her humiliating him.

[@the_exegete]

@@PrincessQ-fj9ly Ha, I never thought of that. Yeah he was getting two things that he thought he wanted.

[@CallMeMimi27]

Vegeta : You smug c**t 😈 Krillin, Piccolo, trunks and Tien Shin Han: 😨 android 17: 😳 Android 18: 😑 Yeap.

[@Augmental_Art]

Haven't even watched yet but already liked, sound the bell round 1 let's go.

[@SensibleSaiyan]

Let’s go 😤😤😤

[@lumineinfinitussilverkagat8094]

I like this fight because it showcases how much Super Saiyan clouds the judgement of the Saiyans (especially Vegeta) which leads up the training arc of Goku and Gohan mastering the state so they can be calm while in it (also looking forward to you covering every fight involving Cell) I feel the second he got headbutted that's when he lost the mental game and started trying to show off instead of trying to finish the fight quickly for the best chance of winning

[@celldh0825]

Anyone who says Vegeta only lost by getting tired is crazy. Like, I don’t think Android 18 showed a single sign of pain this whole fight. Example: at 2:23, Vegeta rocked her clean in the face and she didn’t even flinch

[@zaja2418]

I'd say Vegeta was closer to beating Recoome than he was to defeating 18.😆

[@Saintsrow1824]

@@zaja2418I don’t even know bout that lol

[@DynastyZwarrior90]

@@zaja2418 Similar fights. Vegeta starts off good, but once his opponent starts fighting a bit seriously he is finished. Vegeta kept fghting back till the end in both fights despite being outmatched and in both ends up holding his arm lol. The only difference is that against Recoome, Vegeta knew he probably couldn't win from the start while he was confident against 18.

[@misterkim7517]

LET'S GOOO!! Another banger! I'm bringing the popcorn

[@ray_g000]

Building up to gohan vs cell I’m looking forward to it. Love your fight breakdowns man keep it up

[@tassadarc8069]

At this point, Piccolo takes down Trunks by round five by my estimate. Trunks is the ur-example of "wins fights only with a power advantage" that became the series' main narrative problem going forward, while Piccolo has proven that he can punch above his weight class with skill, and doesn't get complacent like Goku and Vegeta usually do if he has a power advantage. Trunks has a slight power advantage and inherited Vegeta's iron jaw, but he just doesn't have the fight IQ to win a fight against a near equal who fights smarter than he does. He could probably have destroyed one of the androids in his own timeline if he fought smart enough, which we kind of see in Cell's branch of the timeline, but the Trunks we know is too green to be that good just yet. Give him till Super.

[@Real-qk6pm]

Watching this video felt like watching someone who knew how to fight against someone who knew how to attack, 18 simply handled Vegeta like a toddler having a tantrum. Great showcase of these fights and analysis.

[@hispanichipstervlogs8971]

I’ve been waiting patiently for someone to cover this hellacious match

[@lilllwizzzle]

Describing mecha freeza had me dead 😂

[@Jagent]

Yep. I'm still a big fan of your videos. I love the MMA commentary on a cherished series. Some of the most eagerly anticipated vids in my feed.

[@Ishmon16]

Love your videos bro keep it up and thank you for having Piccolo laugh at everything he says its built in at this point.

[@ZyronDel]

That Piccolo laugh gets me every time.

[@sadgetrollge5614]

These vids are amazing man. Talking about high-level fighters but you're a high-level commentator

[@mathuasher9184]

Perfect timing for the upload! I was just finishing my supper for my day off. This'll be a great video for my meal. Gratitude 🙏.

[@MantasDamavicius]

yes bro i waited for this thank you

[@thewrathofarthur2523]

Absolutely love these videos. I’ve said it before, you got something very unique here. Keep it up bro.

[@vincentshadetree]

6:48 Piccolo. In the original timeline, Goku would have died of the heart virus, so the majority of Gohan's training was done by Piccolo. By extension, that means that Trunks martial arts style will have elements of Piccolo, and he'll pick up on it immediately and adjust for Trunk's sword or anything else 😁

[@AWarriorofGod-777]

YEEEEEHHHHHH! LETZ GOOOOOO!!!!

[@tronus571]

These fight analysis videos are really cool, revealing that there's a lot more detail to DBZ choreography than I thought and plenty of tactical depth. I wonder what we'd see in an analysis of Vegeta's fights with Zarbon, particularly the first.

[@romaatwar]

Vegeta came in pride regained feeling like a boss, just to get humbled and get his arm broken. Bro was not ready for that ass kicking. 😂

[@amphicyon4359]

I agree with 18 being a good deal stronger. I honesty feel she could start dominating whenever she felt like it

[@enzomaxwell2807]

Damn been waiting for u to drop again really do be enjoying ur videos man keep going ill be watchung every single 1

[@thelightgaming1739]

Maaaan, this particular week I actually was hoping that your new video would be this fight in particular! Can`t wait till you get to the cell saga bro, keep the fire hot

[@yoyokid8]

Awww yeah, the GOAT has dropped another one. Locked kn on this

[@Avghistorian77]

Considering what else Vegeta would do, or should I say fumble, later on in the Cell Saga, this fight was definitely satisfying to see him be humbled.

[@TechNinjaSigma]

The humbling Getes still feels to this day!!!

[@JrBurger]

Amazing breakdown bro. Keep up the great work!!

[@StxtczZ]

Just a complete shutout from 18. She straight violated Vegeta and this was a complete mismatch from jump. Just a common Vegeta L as we like to say. Amazing breakdown yet again my dude. We only going up⬆️🐐🔥💯 P.S: This is how Prince Vegeta lost his legacy in a single day (new video title idea)

[@ASTMVN]

As for Piccolo Vs. Trunks, not as simple of a matchup as you might think. Trunks has Super Saiyan but Piccolo has spent three years training with that and likely figuring out all the strengths AND weaknesses of the form in the process. That combined with his previous battle experience overall and his regeneration nullifying Trunks's sword as a definitive game ender not to mention Trunks's level of INEXPERIENCE, I think the fight would end with Piccolo slowly draining Trunks's tank dry like 18 does to Vegeta here or Trunks mindlessly overpowering Piccolo. But my personal bet is on Piccolo, 6/10 probability.

[@SensibleSaiyan]

I think I agree with that

[@dushandvr5765]

No way Piccolo is stronger than super saiyan before fusing with Kami. Trunks wins, no matter his inexpirience.

[@BIGTHANKSHEESH]

@@dushandvr5765 Nah. 17 dropped SSJ Trunks as fast as he dropped Piccolo. The fight would be far closer than youd think

[@Saintsrow1824]

@@BIGTHANKSHEESHI don’t really think that means anything, Tien didn’t get knocked out til much later than the both of them, but you’re not going to say Tien>piccolo and trunks

[@BIGTHANKSHEESH]

@@Saintsrow1824 Tien got knocked out via strangulation. It’s different as for Trunks and Piccolo, they were knocked out via hits/having people thrown at them. Trunks by 17s hand and Vegeta getting thrown at him and Piccolo via kick and hand hit. Tiens knockout and how long it took can be chalked up to 17 wanting to make him suffer before knocking him out hence the method and the length

[@wor2xfs250]

Another banger video from sensible Saiyan

[@TheCronq]

I really appreciate your fight analysis'. You clearly work hard on these and I think your videos are fantastic.

[@peacefulwarrior9518]

Video was clean. I'm loving it. Keep it up the good work.

[@AntoineBell-Wright]

YESSIR ANOTHER W VID 🗣🗣🔥🔥

[@VyDovah]

Your content is next level ❤️

[@theexpert758]

Dude me and my son found this channel and it is some crazy stuff. You're the man and these videos are great. He is so into dragon ball now. He loves your training arc video on goku and krillin. Much love dude.

[@SensibleSaiyan]

That’s awesome! Wish you guys the best

[@jaytwotimezz]

Cory and Sensible upload in the same day😮‍💨

[@SensibleSaiyan]

Just watched his vid while mine was rendering lmao

[@Diceman82]

How about some more Yuyu Hakusho coverage? I really liked the Yusuke vs Chu coverage you did.

[@JrBurger]

7:10 Not sure what’s more brutal, what 18 did to Vegita, or what Sensible Sayien did to Krillin. 😂

[@man9uu]

I Just Watch Your All Before Videos Now And Suddenly You Uploaded Another I Love Your Channel' And Your Narration" Respect 🛐✅️💯

[@Psax88]

Piccolo’s got Trunks cooked all day. After merging with Kame I think he’s probably at least equal in strength, but the higher fight IQ, regeneration abilities, and deep bag of attacks I don’t think Trunks could figure out how to fight him fast enough before it’s over.

[@simplyhoodie]

Same thing I said about Vegeta last time applies here. Win or lose, he's a dog who knows how to make a fight flashy and fun to watch. Just a shame we didn't see him unleash the best until it was already over. Looking forward to his next fight against Cell. Gonna be a good one to watch as a Vegeta on top is a Vegeta that's king.

[@justinallen4034]

Posted this just in time I just got my food lol

[@googledoxxdmebruh6283]

I need a DEFENSIVELY RESPONSIBLE shirt from you ASAP

[@DarthHawthorne]

I think this fight really highlights Vegeta's biggest flaw: arrogance. Whenever he gets those big power boosts he likes to play with his food. You are right that Namek Saga Vegeta would have put pressure on 18 nonstop. And I think it's important in context. From Vegeta's POV SSJ's are undefeated. Goku crushed Freiza (the strongest fighter in the galaxy). Then Trunks rolled up and bodied both Frieza and his dad. While Goku lost to 19, Vegeta would assume it was due to the virus. Then Vegeta absolutely crushes 19. Sure, he's aware that Trunks can't beat the Androids in the future and everyone died to them, but that Vegeta wasn't a SSJ, and honestly, Trunks has awful Battle IQ. Vegeta probably thinks Trunks is wrong or exaggerating. And we'll see this flaw play out again with Cell. Because the reality, Vegeta (and the other SSJ's) don't have good chances to explore the limits of their power. The Androids (and Cell) represent an amazing opportunity for Vegeta, just limit the serious number of zenkai boosts he got between Earth and Namek. In answer to your question, Piccolo at this point is at a weird power level. We know he's at least on par with 19/20 because he had his fight with Gero and was doing quiet well with his runback. And we know that SSJ's are stronger than 19/20. So Trunks and Piccolo at this point would be a good matchup. I'd give it to Piccolo for his Battle IQ.

[@LuizCezano]

I disagree that Trunks was being naive when he figured Vegeta could keep up with 18. In the TV special, both he and Gohan would only manage to get 2 or 3 good hits in before getting overwhelmed. So he was in good reason to be surprised at Vegeta's performance.

[@thorofasguard9770]

Love these so much

[@Superbox647-o5q]

I don't know if you noticed it but 18 pants disappeared when she was standing on top of the car

[@zachzeaman]

Christmas came EARLY

[@blastoise70]

Excellent work g

[@Markuth777]

Great content, keep it coming

[@NYGJMAP]

Doing the round format is legit keep it up!

[@EZdelFresco]

I fuckin love this channel

[@Dianaprincey-sr5ys]

Android 18 performance is how to attract men

[@kimarous]

"We needed the Vegeta that fought Recoome here." Hint hint?

[@golork3267]

Man I hope you do King Piccolo vs Goku Round 2 soon. Your fight analysts are on fire man!

[@DLxxx]

Lemme just say this: I don't care if 18 had unlimited stamina, there is no excuse for how badly Vegeta performed in this fight. He was even with 18 at full strength, but burnt himself out so fast that she completely humiliated him. Compare that to Piccolo's fight with 17. Both of them were also equal, but Piccolo was WAY more efficient with his attacks, and made the fight extremely competitive till the very end (despite 17 fighting at increasingly high intensity to burn him out). Point being, Vegeta's ego and need to prove himself superior really clouded his battle tactics. If he had just respected his opponent, the fight would've at least been closer than it was.

[@Guilherme-JK]

Man, i cant get enough of your videos.

[@boombox3162]

Another for the books brother. Great video love the commentary at the end for this one side fights in DBZ

[@Rexollator]

3:26 Anyone else noticed that in this frame she has no leggings? lol

[@ree3e717]

Oh yeah lmao. IG someone forgot to color in the legs lol. Never would’ve spotted that

[@OGWopkstar]

The funniest fight analysis will be Vegeta Vs Perfect cell I can see it now😂 cell destroyed him with 5 hits

[@JRBDWD]

"Vegeta is cooked aHaHAhaHaHa"

[@mirandacecania1580]

HYPE TRAIN ALL ON BOARD BABY

[@natecartwright2319]

another must watch vid. love the content!

[@Kyzen_Wrell]

4:15 Play cat and mouse with her. Pretend to start losing gas only to bait an opening. It’s not much but it’s better than what he has been doing. He also needs to not waste energy of little ki blasts. They need to be finishers or something that’s gonna be a hail mary.

[@Seaweedsz]

Hey I really like your videos. It really helps me appreciate the fights even more. Also, I last week I showed my boxing coach your video of Goku vs 19 (specially the part about the footwork) and he liked it too.

[@kingdarkstalker7247]

i know you're doing these dbz fights in order, but we NEED the Goku vs King Piccolo REMATCH

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

@@kingdarkstalker7247 Absolutely agree. It's time. We need to see that iconic fight. 😎

[@dionysisnance4204]

Piccolo going to give trunks a 10 piece combo no biscuit

[@SensibleSaiyan]

Tell ‘em