Average Man DIY Installs CHINESE DIESEL HEATER IN CAMPER VAN - VW T6 POP TOP

I HAVE MOVED THE EXHAUST POSITION SINCE THIS VIDEO
Just another lock-down project, by no means a "how to" video but hopefully somebody will get something out of this.
Fingers crossed we can get back out on the road soon ;) Plenty of camps planned for the future
Here is the link to where I bought mine
www.maxpeeding...
I used code Friday and got some discount so hopefully that will work for you guys... It also arrived in 2 days..
Fuel Line
www.ebay.co.uk...
Mud Flaps (T6)
www.ebay.co.uk...

[@DS-cf1zc]

Absolute epic effort, you are braver than me by miles. I couldn't face drilling holes in my baby, or messing around trying to get it right - so I saved up and booked her into a specialist fitter and had a planar heater fitted. I have to say it is the best piece of kit I have had added to her, warm as toast when you need to be. The only difference I can see, is the people who fitted mine hooked it under the van, and it takes it fuel from the main diesel tank. (I have no idea if that is a good thing or not). Keep up the excellent work.

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Cheers bud, yeah I was super scary, almost as scary as the pop top 😂😂! I think the way you have had it done is more convenient having it in the main tank (just one filling hole) and underneath also means its out-of the way... I may grow to regret installing it where I have but for now its keeping the van warm and toasty and thats priceless 😂

[@DS-cf1zc]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures My view is hats off to you - you are braver than I am. And if it does the job, who cares where it is fitted if it works. I just wasn't brave enough to start drilling holes in the van - and wanted someone who understood the situation. I would have potentially procrastinated far more than you did, and drunk more coffee. lol.

[@craigtansley1661]

I fitted one to my t5 its the 5kw version probably overkill 🤣🤣 on mine you can turn the pump down so it runs a lot quieter 👍👍 top job

[@MarkyJones]

Finally found someone who wants to fit the heater in the same location as me 😄 Time for me to stop procrastinating and get on with the job before winter kicks in ☃️ Thanks for the great (how to) video 👍

[@jamesmason7124]

Hello from the high desert of New Mexico USA 🇺🇸. Your fuel pump is upside down, the end with the connector is supposed to face up at 15 to 45 degrees. I hope this helps you out. Keep up the good work and stay safe and God bless you and your family

[@hulmedav]

Had my heater 6months,it’s so busy under the van so have put off fitting it but I am encouraged to have a go now have seen the position you fitted yours thanks

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

My pleasure mate! Glad to be of help... just make sure its sealed to within an inch of its life and get a good CO alarm too :)

[@censingmoth]

Your a brave brave man, no way I could do anything like this. I enjoy what other people can do but not brave enough to do it myself. Will have to save up lots of money and get someone to fit. That will probably be in the next 10 years.

[@joffty]

I love the fact you have a list

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Haha having a wife that's addicted to Excell and lists it was guaranteed to rub off on me at some point 🤣

[@dickymapster5741]

I feel you mate. I struggled committing to putting holes through my floor for my RnR bed!

[@dickymapster5741]

Good to see you can install a heater like this later on in the process and it's not connected to the main diesel tank. We are a bit behind you. We've just insulated, ply lined the floor and fit the bed but it's all very unfinished. It's hard knowing what to do next when it's bare bones and it's your first time.

[@carlfraz1869]

Wheel barrow needed for your gonads!! Bigger balls than me, hat off to you and great vid as always!! Hope it keeps you guys toasty and if you haven’t already just get a carbon monoxide alarm, just to be safe!! Keep up the good work vids are so funny 🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Hahaha brilliant, comment of the week by far 😂😂😂.... Yeah I have a carbon monoxide alarm in the van and I have also bought a second one (as a professional photographer, back ups is built in 😂) I'll grab my wheelbarrow 😂😂

[@andrew270298]

You could have fitted it where VW factory fit them underneath on a stainless bracket. I painted conformal liquid on the circuit board to protect it from the elements. Air comes in from a Webasto vent in the drivers door step and blows out between the drivers seat and kitchen units. Pump is on a rubber mount with Eberspacher 90 degree bends to reduce the ticking and the whole pump is in a silicone case. A turret plate would have helped you where you fitted it. I think you will regret not tapping directly into your vans diesel tank. Not one of your better DIY jobs but I have been a sub a long time and look forward to your videos.

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

I could have done a lot of things differently bud... Not bad for my first install ever! Next one will be better im sure!

[@andrew270298]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures I am onto my 3rd conversion. Next one is on a new 6.1 DSG. I have bought a Wallace XC duo combined hob and heater this time. I hate cutting holes in my vans too. Always makes my bum squeak.

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

😂😂😂 bum squeak is mandatory when cutting holes in your van 😂😂! Like you I don't think it will get any easier to digest. You have done quite a few then, thats ace! This is literally my first ever conversion. This year was supposed to be travelling around Europe and vlogging it but turned in to a DIY channel by mistake 😂😂. Im sure we'll be back out on the road in no time again!

[@daveadams4109]

Your fuel pump is upside down, that green fuel pipe will degrade and leek Fit a 6mm anti-vibration mount on fuel pump bracket ,stops that tick:tick ,

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

All changed now buddy, 3 years in, better fuel pipe, better (and the right way up) fuel pump and dampner on the pump too! Makes a huge difference

[@StephenStylesGoesVanCamp]

You made me pause this & buy one 5kw for £43.00 @ grandado . Now here's the funny part. I don't have a van yet 😭🤔🤣🤣 Just thought I'd check as last year they were cheap as, but noticed the other day there more money like £60 more so with seeing this set discounted I just had too 👍

[@darrenmaloney810]

Amazing - good effort. Will probably have a go myself now I’ve seen it done 😀👍 None left in country, stock in Hong Kong. If anyone fancies one they’re charging £80 shipping now at checkout as well as the £78 for the heater. Be careful i nearly plunged for it.

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Thanks for the heads up, I have updated my description so people know.... Good luck installing yours buddy! They are really not that hard to install.. :)

[@darrenmaloney810]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures ah no worries matey. Didn’t want anyone biting your head off when they fork out £160 by accident 😂 I guess you got lucky with the last of the UK stock. There are plenty of other options on the website though 👍 Keep up the good work, enjoy your videos. If you’re ever near sunny St Helens pop over for a coffee or a socially distanced beer 😂

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Without doubt bud, as soon as we can travel, im going everywhere 🤣.... Also, always up for a beer...

[@darrenmaloney810]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures sounds like a plan 🍻🍻👍👍 Just a couple Q’s. Did you wire directly to the leisure battery? When the seats are flat does the heating pipe just blow warm air out under the bed? If so the missus will love that 😂 Finally you linked fuel pipe, did it not come with enough? Cheers 🍻

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

@@darrenmaloney810 hiya buddy.... 1. Yes you should always wire directly to the battery (no switch in between, just a fuse rated for the correct amps). The unit has a set shut down procedure and if not followed it could damage the unit ie switching it off via a switch while itz pumping at full blast. 2. Yes so, the pipe goes far enough forward to push the air in to the cabin area, but with the bed down it blows underneath the bed. I'm just sat on the bed now with it ticking over and its super warm all over the van (it will also keep the underneath of the bed from getting damp) 3. Im not sure what you mean about the fuel line. It comes with a green fuel line that's (apparently) not very good so get swapped out for a better one. Ill be doing that once it arrives. Hope this answers your Qs buddy

[@qdawg4033]

Good job with the heater,think I might fit one next year sometime,I agree with you that the exhaust doesn't look good there

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Cheers buddy.. yep, its moved now, I hated it where it was, not only that, as soon as I lowered the van back off the levelling blocks, the exhaust was way too close to the floor... ;)

[@evobobber]

Very useful info / install. Never thought it was for me but this has made me think twice. Don't think the exhaust looks right there but thats just my opinion. Love the black and white van.

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Cheers buddy.... just take your time doing it and check, check and check again.... there are better ways to install it but this is about my level of DIY 🤣!! PS Exhaust has now been moved out of sight....

[@Mark-ob1dh]

Great video. You could put some rubber bushing/rubber in between the pump mounting and the chassi/body to reduse noise.

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Cheers bud, its already a full rubber mount so not sure how to make it quieter. I'll be honest, its not that bad, ill not be sleeping with it on and the fan noise drowns out the click..

[@jamesmason7124]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures all you have to do is hang the fuel pump with some zip ties or exhaust hangers but make sure you still hang the pump at 15 to 40 degrees angle with the electrical connection facing upward also you will want to replace that crappy green fuel line with the proper white hard 2mm inside diameter fuel line I hope that this helps keep up the good work I subscribed

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Thanks so much for the tips buddy, muchly appreciated.... :)

[@EdArnoldyorkshirebagpiper]

Thanks for making this video. Bought mine last week and been bricking installing it and messed around finding other things to do since to put it off. You've defo given me the confidence to have a crack at it now. Think I'll start it tomorrow.

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Awesome mate, keep us updated on how it goes... The first drill hole is the scariest 😂😂! Good luck

[@nickpritch3152]

Ed just do mate . Just the best once fitted warm air out of it you will think why I worry about fitting 👀💪💪😂

[@EdArnoldyorkshirebagpiper]

@@nickpritch3152 thanks. Got started on removing the spare wheel and shielding which took all afternoon, couldn't have picked a colder day for it! I'm wondering what to do about the shielding as it covers most of the back chassis and doesn't leave anywhere for the exhaust to go. Will I have to cut away at some of it?

[@nickpritch3152]

Ed on my t5 fitted under drivers seat out of the way and there holes already cut out so some pipe work or wiring loom down for best place 👍🏻👌

[@linoleumbonypart385]

@@nickpritch3152 yea most ppl fit them up front either external under drivers seat or in drivers seat..

[@bobcheckley6802]

Well done very impressed with your DIY i wouldn't be as brave and confident, luckily my T5 came with a diesel heater already fitted love it nice and toastie on those cold wild days out. keep the vids coming, What's next?

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Cheers buddy, im hoping to do a wild camp next, maybe a photography trip or similar. Unless I get drunk again and buy a load of van gear 🤣🤣 then there will be another unboxing video! We also have q&a coming up answering everyone's questions and I'm still doing the explanation of my electrical system video....

[@classic1989mini]

It looks like a very fiddly job, but you did it. Great

[@diwarburton7120]

Great job, I admire your bravery.

[@ruds7913]

Change the green fuel hose to a better one. You’ll end up with no end of trouble with that green stuff.

[@justharryjohnson7250]

Just silence the pump. Its really simple I will have a video out in a week showing how to do it

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Awesome mate, ill keep an eye out for it

[@dudesndrones]

nice job well done.

[@MrDods26]

Great informative video 👏👍

[@nickpritch3152]

Move the silencer and drill hole on side and lay flat. To be honest there so cheap there like £3 each if in a few years it rust buy new happy days 👀👀💪👌

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Cheers bud, I did exactly that today, it looks so much better now....

[@davidbloomfield1871]

Brilliant video, nerves of steel lol, I'm getting mine done after Christmas but getting someone to do it, I'm too scared lol. Did end up buying a load more stuff after your unboxing video, water bottle, cushions and some other bits, the Mrs is very impressed NOT lol. Loving your vids mate keep them coming

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

I may have to start a marriage counselling channel for partners who have bought too much van stuff 😂😂.... I hope your install goes well, it will do if its done by a pro...

[@davidbloomfield1871]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures forget the councilling can you just go for divorce lawyer and always ensure the husband gets sole custody of the van 🤣🤣

[@petercollins7157]

Enjoyed the video.Think you will need to think again about the exhaust,to low and looks ugly.Where do you find (description).I can’t even do that never mind fitting heater or solar panel.Stay safe.

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

I completely agree, it on the to list this morning! I hate it where it is and I'll probably smack it off on a curb 🤣🤣

[@jonesdecorators]

Hello. I’m a new subscriber and have to say I really enjoyed this video. I’ve got a transit connect and looking to fit one of these under my passenger seat 👍

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Thanks for subscribing and welcome on board... Good luck with your install

[@1971JGG]

Good job sir. Looking at doing this myself but procrastinating also. What posh work clothes you wear in Yorkshire! Peace and Love from Lancashire !

[@robertlee3734]

best thing with pump is not to bolt it to va try to suspenp by cable tie

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

100% although the holder is made out of rubber so the click isn't that bad, I think I can live with it but a good tip though thanks

[@dieselbushcraft1299]

Well done, it’s on my bucket list but I want to have mine feeding from the vehicle tank but it’s a little daunting as mines a T6 with the adblu.

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Cheers... it was easily the scariest thing I have done on the van ... Good luck with your install and keep us up to date on how its going ;)

[@dieselbushcraft1299]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures after 5 months I’ve got myself the heater and all the kit to fit it, even got a £20 gadget to turn it on and off by text message 😃.

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Awesome mate.... enjoy a toasty warm van °

[@robhamilton5057]

I'm thinking of putting one in the same position that you did. i like what you did with the fuel tank, have you had any diesel smells inside the van with having the tank internal?

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Hey buddy, yeah the diesel smell is noticeable when the bed is down. We're definitely going to send a fuel line to the tank at some point...

[@robhamilton5057]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures thanks, think I will go for the main tank too

[@ian_morg]

Great video! Are you changing the fuel line soon? A lot have said that's the #1 to do. You've got bigger ones than me mind, I don't think I've got the nads to do this myself 😂😂 Well done Sir! Well done!

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Hiya Mate, Thanks so much... My nads were trembling Ill be honest haha!!! The new fuel line has arrived but I am going to see how long the original fuel line lasts before replacing it - I will also do an update on the channel if anything changes too

[@ian_morg]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures get it done! Safety first 😎👍🏼

[@teresawright9067]

alrite buddy been looking at the heaters but the fuel tubes are all bigger ones did yours come with that one . i proffer yours . thanks john

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Hiya buddy, I bought the fuel tube separately! They should come with a rubber adaptor to step it down to the correct size :)

[@Rex-the-T6]

At point 21:28 I noticed the control panel what is that if you don't mind me asking?

[@edd30t4vw2]

Awesome video mate. How's the diesel heater holding up? I was looking at getting one. Some people say don't go Chinese some people say yes. I'm confused. 👍🏻

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Hey buddy, I'd say go with what you can afford, if you're not super confident installing it get a pro to do it for you too. My heater is still going strong, even if it breaks now, I'd buy another one the same. I could do this every year for the next 10 years and it would still be cheaper than the branded ones. Having said that, the branded ones are brilliant and you cant fault them at all.. Good luck with it all matey

[@edd30t4vw2]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures Thanks for getting back so quick. I'm going for it. They're going for about £175 on Amazon at the mo. I'm going for it. Thanks again. 👍🏻

[@mattwillcox9605]

Hi There matey, think you did really well with this install was thinking of doing someting similar as i have the same van and cant think of anywhere else to place it. The drivers seat has the leasure battery and the passenger double swivel. Was wondering though where you put your wheel jack and tool, as it was attached to the wheel arch? Yours defo looks like the 2k version, the 5kw wouldnt fit in there.. keep up the informative videos btw good work!!

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Thanks buddy, it wasnt the most pleasant of jobs thats for sure haha!! My wheel jack is in the cupboard under the bed, its always been there! It was a 2k version, I think the 5k version would make the van a full blown sauna haha!!

[@paulfireandsecurityenginee494]

A successful nipple instal, said the plastic surgeon 🤣 Good job 👍

[@algrainger]

Great install. Couple of questions: what hole cutter did you use, is it anything special? Also, how much fuel does it use? Appreciate you'll need to get out it in to test but would be interested to know. Thanks!

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Hiya buddy... I used a metal cutter (just from Amazon) set that did the job.. Still a bit faffy and didnt cut through like butter as I was expecting.. The fuel consumption isnt too bad, I have had it on for about 15hrs (in total) and used about 2.5L of diesel - I am using red diesel too (because you can in these) so its SO MUCH cheaper... ;) Take care bud

[@MarcusHorwood]

Question, Is it very noisy being under where you sleep? I see most people put them under the drivers seat that’s all.

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Hey buddy, it would be yes, but I don't leave it on once I'm warm and toasty in bed so that wasn't an issue for us :)

[@m1les7]

Fair play 🏁🏁

[@DG-tj6xq]

Shipping is saying £133 to the uk plus customs for this heater did you have to pay these aswell?

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

No buddy, I just paid around £80 delivered

[@Hotdogburger668]

Great vid, how’s the noise if the heaters under the bed where your head would be lying during the night?

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Thanks buddy You definitely know its there when it's on full. But during the night it tends to be put on super low and although you can hear it, its a soft low blowing fan noise and actually a calming white noise. We came from an electric fan heater and its quieter than that if that helps.

[@teresaemmerson9599]

Hi great vid. We’re interested in the mud flaps and clicked your link. However, it says they don’t fit a T6 with Barn doors. You’ve obviously got barn doors on your van, have you had any problems? Thanks 😉

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Hiya, thank you Teresa.. Thats really odd, they fit mine perfectly. I'll be honest I didn't check the description I just bought them 🤣🤣. But yeah, no problems fitting mine as you can see on the video they are a snug and moulded fit too. Might be worth sending them a message to put your mind at ease...

[@teresaemmerson9599]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventuresthank you, will let hubby know 😃

[@irenedale5256]

I found this really interesting, even though `I’m not so handy myself. Our heater was installed by the company who sold us the van, the control panel looks exactly like yours. Did you have an instruction sheet for the control panel? I daren’t use mine (I always use the fobs) in case I press something I shouldn’t. I may just have to have another look at the video at the point where you show and explain the controls. Btw have you had any problems getting it to heat up in this cold weather?

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Hiya Irene, The control panel didn't come with an instruction manual but I'll be honest with you, its super hard to do anything bad as you have to put a pass code in to it before you can make any detrimental changes. Apart from setting the time and timers, the control panel is really just a glorified version of the remote and works the same. Hope this helps

[@irenedale5256]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures Yes, thanks for getting back to me on that. Hope you and the family are all staying well.💕

[@stocks301]

Hi pal Great video as always. How you getting on with the heater? Heard bad things about then.

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Cheers bud.... heater is working a dream, just spent two nights in the Lakes and it has been on about 90% of the time

[@stocks301]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures Great to hear. J Purchased one myself but my local VW converter turned his nose up at them and tried to get me to buy a £2000 one. Think I'll stick with the Chinese one. Thanks

[@robbiemulholland8412]

How easy is it to fill the diesel tank and do you smell diesel in the van...getting prepped for an install myself. Cheers buddy stay safe

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Hey Robbie, its super easy to fill, either with a pump at the petrol station or a can.... I did smell diesel at first (which was annoying) but it was because I hadn't screwed on the cap tight enough and it was leaking out a bit... tightened it today and its sealed and fine now... ;) good luck with the install

[@njt937]

Does your heater still work okay mate I’m going to buy one this week

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Hiya bud, yes it still works perfectly. I recently had to replace the bracket for the exhaust (as that perished) but that was about a £1 fix ;)

[@njt937]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures thank you mate did you by any additional parts for it. I will also mention I recently purchased a t6 your info as helped loads would love to have a catch up in a vw festival in wales one day 👍

[@ianharvey289]

Going to have a go at installing one myself in same area of the van..... did you have to remove all the plastic cover under the van and if so did you replace it after around exhaust ? Cheers and enjoying the vlogs.

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

That's awesome matey, yes I removed it but didn't put it back as it may be a melting risk! - I did seal underneath (heatproof seal) ;)

[@ianharvey289]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures great thanks for that. I was wondering about the heat and plastic !

[@grantmarshall2775]

Great video as always thankyou. One big question i have about using a remote diesel tank is do you get to smell the diesel in the van? hope not as it makes the install so much more simple if so! Keep on the good work mate!

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Cheers Grant, I'll be honest, I had a faulty cap on the first bottle and diesel was coming out of it. You could smell it if you got super close but it didn't smell the van out. I bought a new cap and its totally fine now. Can't smell a thing!

[@chrispalmer8782]

What size heater did you go for bro?

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

The 2kw one matey, the 5kw is a larger unit and was too large to fit in the space I wanted it to go and it would have kicked out far too much heat for my small van too. If you have a larger van a bigger one might be a good option though. Also, I had a few friends install a Chinese heater underneath (outside the van) and they have all failed as the water proofing (certainly on their models) wasn't very good.

[@Mark-ob1dh]

Sort the exhaust out lol. Hide it away.

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Its on the to do list tomorrow 🤣🤣

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Its also too low and will no doubt get smacked off on a curb 🤣🤣

[@deanpodmore865]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures and the wrong side, should be on the O/S (road side) in the uk.

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

@@deanpodmore865 hiya bud, where did you get that info from? My (main) exhaust is on the road side but my wife's car is on the curb side... If you could send me a link to the legislation I'll happily change it.

[@deanpodmore865]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures I work for a vehicle converter and we fit 100s of Eberspaecher and Webasto units each year.

[@adamkoz6358]

I have an Eberspacher installed cost me £895 fitted brand new I hear these are good because there after sales team are really good in terms of communication if anything isn’t working as it should. No hassle of filling a separate tank because it runs off the main diesel supply and really let’s have it right for something like this it really isn’t a DIY job yes you have taken great care but I wouldn’t trust any Chinese brand.

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

Thats great bud, glad you've got something you're happy with. :)

[@adamkoz6358]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures sorry I didn’t mean that in a patronising way I just don’t trust the Chinese manufacturing standards. Personal opinion I know and yes maybe I should keep that to myself 😂😂

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

@@adamkoz6358 Honestly mate, dont worry about it. I totally get what you are saying.. If I had the money, I would have probably bought a more expensive one and had somebody fit it for me, it would have definitely helped with the heart palpitations when drilling a hole in my van haha!!

[@adamkoz6358]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures I just realised how I sounded apologies. Good video though at least it gives someone the insight on how to fit one correctly. You never know I might see you in the road sometime look after yourself 👍🏻

[@evdm1912]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures hi first of all, really love all your video's. I've bought a 13 t5 with this very heater installed. What's really well, so well that the thermostat doesn't work, would you have any idea either how to fix this or who might. Ps. Give a shout if you are still planning to support your cycling friends through Scotland, would be happy to support as well where possible. Tia Erik

[@Brad_hodge_photography]

longest install

[@Yorkshirepoptopadventures]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 tell me about it 🤣🤣🤣

[@Brad_hodge_photography]

@@Yorkshirepoptopadventures haha 😂 love it

[@hulmedav]

Had my heater 6months,it’s so busy under the van so have put off fitting it but I am encouraged to have a go now have seen the position you fitted yours thanks