Aviation No Tie Downs: We’re going to put it in the trees

[@patrickheavirland3599]

Hello from Minnesota!! thanks for sharing your story.

[@GingerThePlane]

A must watch for every aviator, especially those of us who fly in the Pacific Northwest. Thank you Teresa and Team Lightspeed for sharing these interesting and informative videos and the survival guide! Tom Martin (VG Team Member)

[@TheToddrwilson]

Well done Truman! I am very glad you listened to Bob Hoover. He perfected the engine-less landing! Next you should tell the story about the time you did a 360 in a 737. Taxiing on the ramp!

[@jsteiger2228]

If you are in IMC, you need the carb heat on. If you are getting rid of ice, you need to keep the heat on for a long time to ensure you got all the ice melted. That's how I've been trained anyway....

[@etdey]

Love the Haiku.

[@fdtank81]

For me… no more carbureted engines Simple as that, yes it’s a tough decision

[@PostcardsfromAlaska]

Throw me a lifeline She turned me toward a mountain Thanks for nothing ma’am. Original Haiku

[@trumanobrien4772]

No, actually the vector was the shortest distance to the airport. And a second vector was away from the higher terrain. She did a PERFECT job and I will be forever grateful.

[@PostcardsfromAlaska]

At 8000’ you’re likely to load up your plugs if you’re not properly leaned out. Having a moving map gps like a $400 garmin296 or ForeFlight (or both) allows situational awareness so you can immediately turn to a river or runway, not towards terrain. Thanks for that crappy vector, ATC!!

[@trumanobrien4772]

Wrong again! The vector was perfect and the mixture was leaned exactly via the EGT. In IMC with no autopilot rest assured, I was not going to mess with a GPS when a highly capable controller was there to provide a vector. And, there was no river or anywhere else to be vectored to. We were over the lower slopes of higher terrain with VERY dense forest. Before you trash ATC you should know the facts.

[@PostcardsfromAlaska]

@@trumanobrien4772 Glad all ended well for you. I’ll stand by my statement however. I’ve flown light twins and turboprop twins over Alaska mountains and oceans, single pilot IFR for 20+ years. If youre single engine IMC over dangerous terrain, and have to ask ATC for the nearest survivable crash site when things go bad, thats a sign you may have been caught napping. The Flightaware track shows you smack dab over the Columbia River when you started your descent on course toward higher terrain. The heads-up play would have been to accept your predicament, deviate from your clearance, and immediate turn toward the River, the highway, and CZK. Those trees and rising terrain could have just as easily killed both of you.

[@trumanobrien4772]

@@PostcardsfromAlaska Gosh, Yann, I'm really sorry that with your vast experience you weren't with us to help us make the proper decision. Of course, I should mention that had we been able to determine exactly at 8,000' MSL (approx 6,000' AGL) that the engine was absolutely going to fail, and immediately gone to best glide of approx 80 mph (1.3 mi per min) at 700 fpm rate of descent that pencils out to about 11.1 miles of glide. I'm guessing the river was approx 15 miles in the straightest possible line but I'm sure you would have been able to do it. 😃 Oh, I should mention that I have a wee bit of Alaska experience myself - DC4 captain hauling fish off of Eggegik Beach and Kodiak, and a few thousand hours as a captain in a B737-200 flying into gravel strips and all the little villages in Alaska. But I'm sure that doesn't compare. 😊

[@PostcardsfromAlaska]

@@trumanobrien4772Welp, I’m clearly talking to a legit AK sky pirate, if you’ve flown DC4s over the Alaska Range. In my personal experience, getting ATC apprised of your situation takes longer than it’s worth, since the person on the other end may or may not be up to speed with the topography, your level of desperation, and your capabilities. Keep the greasy side down.

[@trumanobrien4772]

@@PostcardsfromAlaska Ha! Yeah, I agree with your sentiment. In this case she was right on it with a terrain overlay to see exactly where we were. I was impressed with the overall level of expertise. Good bantering with you! 😁