Aviation Week Pilot Report: Flying the Boeing 787

[@StratMatt777]

Thanks for the review! I will place an order for a dozen thanks to this review!

[@dawidda]

notice at 7:18 where they claim to simulate a 1 engine inoprative landing... But the instruments of the aircraft clearly show Both engines working at at the exact same thrust... -.-

[@geekybench]

nice catch

[@SottileSky]

Be advised that this is considered to be a "Simulated" 1 engine inop approach. For safety reasons, they keep the inop engine at a stable 40 - 50% N1. They don't idle the engine for precautions.

[@dawidda]

SottileSky ... They dont even do that, both engines opperate at same thrust 100% of the time. If both engines are fully operational and at the same thrust you are not simulating anything. in other words, it's a completlety normal landing.

[@ThomasMaufer]

Love the hula girl on the plane's cockpit dashboard. :-) Can't wait to fly on a 787!

[@jtmcdole]

Is it sad that I was like "V1, Rotate, V2" moments before the announcer?

[@jtmcdole]

Closing comment should have been "In short, it may have been 3 years late to market, but its still light years ahead of any other plane".

[@ThomasMaufer]

All 2-engine planes should have the yaw/pitch mitigation for single engine operation....

[@karlauerbach9568]

That's no hula girl that's part of the mass damping system.

[@JohnEapen77]

Fantastic. Thanks for sharing. Good to know that the new features reduce crew workload especially in emergency situations.

[@freddielearoyd3741]

The 787 seems to be an aircraft that will change the future of aviation for the best. Well done Boeing!!

[@stenic2]

Ok I am partial to Airbus planes but I have to admit that this is the most beautiful cockpit I ever saw...

[@jonrd463]

They only set the "off" engine to idle to simulate it being out. At touchdown, both engines are at idle, as the N1 indicates on the display.

[@islanboi671]

Awesome video and nice touch on the hula dancer on the dashboard. ;-)

[@hurtylfc]

Fred you lucky, lucky man! Great video.

[@tf51d]

That's because the Capt and PNF didn't realize the PF was pulling back on the stick, (Which is what caused the stall) which at least the PNF would have with an interlocking control column, as the yoke would be pulled back into his lap. Then corrective measures, could have been taken, preventing the stall in the first place.

[@DanTheCaptain]

@rockfleet ya and Airbus was the first one to also implement the Fly-By wire system to commercial aircraft. the udea first became in the military and Airbus Picked it up, then Boeing improved it and Airbus is improving it again with the A350 to compete with this 787.

[@FlightSupreme]

7:30, the engine display shows that you are using both of the engines. So why did u say you used only one engine or is it just another clip replayed again?

[@shamalzji3832]

Mike was having fun with the throttle control, just like a new student pilot.

[@kahr2201]

Never thought of that, but it's a good point. Should AF447 had control columns someone would have noticed that the 2nd Officer was pulling back.

[@richarddastardly6845]

I've got a 787 poster on my wall, probably will be the closest I'll ever get to flying one. Looks absolutely amazing, I admire the men and women that will fly her.

[@Aeromin]

That cockpit HUD is very impressed

[@AviationWeek]

Thank you for all your comments on this video. Please note that we do not tolerate xenophobia or foul language, therefore a number of comments have been removed. ^RH

[@bundesautobahn7]

Technical question: In both 777 and 787, I've seen the centre ailerons first deflect down, then up, and then go back to its original position, all during the takeoff roll. What is the purpose of that?

[@djblanton]

Great video --thx for sharing.

[@mmtot]

It also has cool pen holders too!

[@sisturfistur]

Idk which is better!! 757 or 787, 787 is like a brand new car that everything is easy, but 757 is just a classic and what ive flown for years

[@richygambs321]

so is manual handling in normal law operations the same as that on an airbus? if i pitch up 15 degrees and turn right 10 degrees and leave go of the yoke, will the computers hold it there for me? is there auto trim?

[@RobbieIsbell]

I wish you did this in Closed Captions.

[@Kaipeternicolas]

Great video. Extremely cool that you got to test the plane very thoroughly. The music however is horrible.

[@sisturfistur]

this video is clearly for pilots and aviation enthusiasts.. so if it doesn't matter to you, why do you continue to watch it?

[@addos999]

probably a drop in the bucket that would be the marketing budget for this aircraft!

[@alexinalexandria]

Loved the hula girl, is that standard equipment?

[@dollerkid]

at 2:55 is that a Tomtom on the screen?

[@kurtisflyer]

Its fun to hand fly! Thats what airplanes are missing these days. Nice job boeing :)

[@luisruiz2430]

One day I hope to sit in that seat

[@Haji84]

I want to shit in that seat too

[@ZiKanWatch]

ʕʘ‿ʘʔHaji84ʕʘ‿ʘʔ same

[@Irishpilot24]

hmm these new features are all very well but i think the best feature.... is the hula dancer above centre console

[@Alwayzsmilin]

2nd Officer was Pilot Flying, 1st Officer was in the Capt. seat as the Capt. had just arrived to the flight deck after rest. PF had his sidestick pulled back. Capt. and 1st officer couldn't figure out why the plane was loosing altitude, as with the A330, there aren't any visual cues i.e sidesticks don't move where as control columns do.

[@HEMIDAVE100]

I like the "hula girl" on top of the instrument panel.

[@theRealAV8r]

@oktal3700: Agreed, AF447 had everything to do with pilot response to a recoverable event (at several points), never meant to say otherwise. Just that it started with blocked pitots, which would still affect an analog asi. But in terms of 'redundancy' I'll bet that A330, properly configured could have recovered itSELFonce the pitots were clear - for sure it would not have fallen 30,000 feet belly first

[@FunPlacesToFly]

Great Video! Thanks!

[@Starflight2006]

Awesome machine, nice Video. Since I fly a jet which is a mixture of start-of-the-art-computer-technology and old school, I do share some concerns about developing manual flying skills with the new joiners in this profession. In my opinion, Pilot Training must be updated to care for the negative effects of higher levels of automation.

[@theRealAV8r]

What does display type/redundancy have to do with AF447? LOC incidents arising from pitot/static port issues transcend analog and digital equipped aircraft from either maker - ie rubbish data is rubbish data, regardless of display type.

[@capt.shukri]

Is there a built in table in the cockpit like Airbus ?

[@ns81]

Like the redundancy for the pitot system - would've prevented a few ice-related crashes we've all read about...

[@DanTheCaptain]

@rockfleet But the thing i wonder is what would happen if this aircraft suffers a massive loss of electric systems, what would happen. i'm wondering this because i don't se any backups.

[@xOlGuN619x]

I wonder how complicated that speed calculation algorithm is, deriving a constant with 6 different variables. damn

[@Jimbo898]

Alternate air data system,,,,NICE. Air France 447 would have survived if they would have had one of these in place.

[@jeffreygettemans2646]

Also the feedback control column as opposed to the sidestick. The pilot would have been aware that the co-pilot was pulling back and would have been able to correct him about pulling back. I don't know why airbus doesn't use feedback controls, it would probably eliminate confustion in the flight deck if the pilots could feel the action or visually see the action of the moving control as the other pilot controls the aircraft.

[@dawidda]

Jeffrey Gettemans tho, if the pilots where correctly trained this would never happen.

[@nyc1231988]

Dont airbuses have a "dual inpu" callout if two pilots are using the sidestick at the same time? i though I saw that somewhere.

[@infinity-1789]

Where can I buy one of these ?

[@TheAviationJake2930]

Most technology advanced Boeing Plane there is. Love it!

[@robertglenn5398]

Hey, if you don't get a 787 for Christmas, let's go halves on buying one.

[@thelastgameboy]

Hmm it's really interesting how the design of the 787 focuses on safety handling much more than its predecessors. I hope that doesn't get too much in the way for pilots experienced with the older airliners. :/ Well at least the newbies might like it better.

[@lebotshetsheko7027]

AFF 447 didnt have stall protection? I thought if the pilot is wrong, the system does what is correct. Yes?

[@MultiNico35]

Hello. In manual flight, and in the descend and aproach, hoy can the pilot control if the AT si to control speed or rate of descent? If there any pilots out there that can answer my question, it would be grate. Thank you ver y much

[@socratesprint]

could they upgrade the existing 777 fleet with these features?

[@jmcfarlandjr]

@ 4:15, what exactly is he doing with the throttles?

[@madisonelectronic]

How much does Boeing charge for the dash hula dancer?

[@pepelay9748]

787 - the best! No problem, minor flaws can be fixed easy; [consider it good thing that they showed up early].

[@jan-zumwalt]

Is there a Radio Shack part number so I can upgrade my Cessna 172?

[@vinsterful]

actually, if you did you research correctly the computers are there to see if the pilots are doing their job correctly.

[@roywhiteo5]

how much did the fuel cost for that demonstration?

[@sharp4810]

Az a zöld fűszoknyás baba milyen műszer ott középen legfelül? :-))

[@ctdesing]

sir, what you said has nothing to do with control philosophy, airbus use a sidestick because every airbus after the a320 has an autotrim system. if that wasn't the case every airbus would be using yokes like the a300-a310.

[@Notateabagger]

Great video. Thanks! The music is really annoying though.

[@Aviatorspot]

Excellent videos! Have subscribed you!

[@templarjay]

but does it fly inverted?

[@robertl30]

Is the Hula Girl on the MEL?

[@giannakisloizou9414]

πετουν σε αποσταση ξερετε ποσα χιλιομετρα ψηλα στον αερα?

[@markbradley2367]

It's a lovely plane to fly, no doubt about it, almost perfect. It's the first aircraft I flew that is not only fool proof but almost idiot proof ( I managed to fool it once)!However the EFB is cumbersome and not in the natural scan. Using our Airline iPad was much easier. Shame Boeing /FAA felt it necessary to make it the same as the 777 for pilot common rating. Look at the A350 where the screen is for charts etc. However felt so privileged to have started on the B737-200 ,757, 767 and finished my career on the B787 .... The ice on the cake would be if the screens were touch sensitive ....

[@ClaysonAntoons]

This is a great comment to see. Got a question for you. When it comes to the hydraulics, is it true that the 787 can still be controlled if were to have all 3 of it's hydraulic systems failed via the Electro Mechanical Actuators that operates 2 pair of spoilers per wing and the horizontal stabilizer without hydraulics needed?

[@markbradley2367]

@CoasterGuy787 Yes, you are correct ( but retired in 2019, so memory is slightly fuzzy), though I wouldn't like to try it! Depending on the nature of the hydraulic failure, if there was still hydraulic fluid available, then the Ram Air Turbine (RAT) could be deployed to power one of the hydraulic systems.(can't recall which system) These multiple failures would be extremely unlikely and if it did happen it would be one of those days you should have stayed in bed!

[@ClaysonAntoons]

@@markbradley2367 Thanks for the reply. One more question if you don't mind. I'm aware the 787 uses roll rate in normal mode like a FBW Airbus and that there is artificial force feedback for the pitch axis. Is there any for the roll axis also, despite the use of roll rate? If you was to be flying manually in gusty winds and the 787 rolled, would you feel that through the yoke via artificial feel? I'm curious as I'm fascinated by the 787's design since it's among my top 3 favorite Boeing aircraft.

[@markbradley2367]

@CoasterGuy787 you are really pushing my memory now:)) In roll once you banked more than 45° (I think)then stick forces increased to try and prevent you overbanking , although when practicing unusual attitudes in the simulator you could,with muscle override it ! From a pilot perspective, it felt in roll no different to the 767 I flew before, even flying a very gusty 40kt crosswind it behaved beautifully. I must qualify that I am not a test pilot, so wouldn't have the skills to differentiate small differences between types, though the 757 was much heavier in pitch .

[@ClaysonAntoons]

@@markbradley2367 Ah, lovely to hear. The 787 is truly a wonderful aircraft. Thanks again for the reply :)

[@bossamood6536]

Sweetest engine sound I have ever heard!.....almost sounds like someone playing an electric piano with backing!! :)

[@MrConny123]

What about fire protection?

[@BMKingston]

I thought an Airbus can go into Direct Law mode if you turn off all of its FCC's?

[@robertgift]

What about lightning strikes?

[@noble6trololo]

DID U FLY THE AIRCRAFT UR SELF?????!?

[@ibe3174]

You are right, but boeing and airbus only share the name they dive to their direct fligh inputs.. baceuse actually they are really diferent. And btw the airbus direct law is really a pain in the neck..... id be very scared flying a 320 in direct law associated with other problems.

[@ScottPankhurst]

gotta have the hula dancer! the ultimate bank and tilt instrument.

[@paulgard755]

Where's mine?

[@williamtang8453]

cool HUD'S !

[@PashaDefragzor]

Cool profession my brother was a military pilot, now he flying Boeing..

[@Aleksandar6ix]

wow....so impressive. I like.

[@daletrickz8012]

I've subscribed to you, Nice Videos 👍

[@kylerider5519]

I agree with the comment below. Every time something goes wrong on an airbus plane the computer spits out like fifty error messages and leaves the pilots confused

[@bilalashraf7496]

Nice!!

[@Jet-Pack]

Its quite funny to see Boeing implementing some features that the Airbus Fly-By-Wire system already has and to see Airbus copying the Winglets/Sharklets :D

[@shadjohn9]

how much pilot get money?

[@WGazeon]

I want one for Christmas :)

[@JeanPierre94061]

You people do not seem to understand that all new major aircraft experiences "childhood diseases" It's like that with all new machines, cars, planes you name it. Boeing is not alone with this and certainly not the 787. Just think of the Airbus A380 which was delayed 2years. Cracks was discovered in the wing structure and an engine failure on a Qantas A380 which was caused by an oil leak. And it still does not make the A380 a bad plane.

[@tf51d]

Because it's completely against any stall recovery procedures, the Capt, and the PNF, probably wouldn't even think the PF would be pulling back on the stick in that situation, hence the confusion. Had they had a interconnected control column, they would have seen the mistake earlier, and most likely reacted sooner, and save the plane!!

[@rockfleet]

Airbus "invented" the glass cockpit with 2 crew only, Boeing took it over and improved, Airbus improved things again. The fact of the matter is that competion is healthy and because of it both have been producing better and safer and more economical planes. Current demand is so high that no single manufacturer could take-up the slack.

[@Maverick9847L]

Yes but because of the severe icing the Air Data computer had reverted to what is known as Alternate Law. This shut down the protections that are provided by the airplane The pilot, who was unaware that this was possible, was able to stall the airplane. At least that is my understanding of what happened

[@bige6560]

NO WAY he actually got to fly it I’m jealous

[@balderdash707]

What makes you think that? They certainly put more emphasis on computer assistance, but Airbus isn't stupid enough to get rid of Direct Law entirely.

[@Ramster211]

Goddamn, i knew the 787 was advanced, but i did not expect this. I work on F-16s, and a lot of these automatic systems seems like something ud only find in fighterjets!

[@TJHOW1]

your point?

[@V2000-t8v]

I like the hula dancer ! 😊

[@DeesoSaeed]

777-200LR still my favourite Boeing. I like extremes :3

[@guitarheaven1747]

it got tokyo over the pacific ocean to london

[@CoffeeAndPaul]

Most important adjustable in-cockpit item: air-conditioning nozzles.

[@gymheart69]

I like all this fancy stuff, but give me a 727 with an updated panel anytime. But then again, I'm old and old school!

[@elijahthomas-eddy5881]

Technology is great and all but i think many pilots are losing there stick and rudder skills which they may need to use if the computer was to ever fail.

[@CaptKindel]

I flew the B767 till I retired in 2000. To me that may have been the last plane that made it easy to shut off the electronics and hand fly an approach and also to fly engine out approaches and go-arounds in the simulator. The 787 is a magnificent plane but when the parameters of the computer are exceeded or the computers fail you have to have stick and rudder skills to fall back on. We are already seeing accidents where the pilots are defaulting to the computer such as the Asiana SFO accident.

[@functionfirst7355]

Air France 447

[@dragonsqrrl]

Matthew Taylor That accident probably wouldn't have happened in a Boeing, dare I say it would've been impossible, particularly with the 787.

[@blaketibbitts2875]

+dragonsqrrl Or a Triple Seven, I might add! Or any Boeing aircraft!

[@tanshaomala]

+Blake Tibbitts It would have, because the crew were unaware of the situation they were in, and had very poor CRM, not knowing who was in control when a simple "I have control" would have been sufficient. They were over-reliant on the automation and when they were given full control after the autopilot disconnected, they didn't know what to do. When you have airline crew that cannot recognise and recover from a stall can you really blame the machine? Remember, a bad workman always blames his tools.

[@svg571]

NICE

[@cashonline101]

Its actually dangerous to rely primarily on a bunch of computers, when pilots do the minimum. Computers are computers, if something goes wrong, pilots are literary " blind". Even my new pc shuts down sometimes with no apparent reason. Plus 787 appears to have a common lithium ion battery problems still.

[@Dr.SHERIFF]

the 62 dislikers are Airbus fans (Apple-Android style) :P

[@kilosle]

Those 5 dislikes are Airbus staff.

[@VIPERGTSR01]

It's a GoPro camera

[@danielalcantara4701]

avião é um show!