Why I am Not 'Switching' to X-Plane!

[@AviationPro]

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[@airlinepilotlife3232]

AviationPro Thank you so much for sharing your opinion with us, I’m another flight simmer with a both P3D and x-plane 11. I can really see through to your reasons. I wanted to touch up with you on the crisp of the textures, IM NOT TRYING TO DEGRADE OR DISAGREE OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT ABOUT YOUR OPINION because I agree with your opinions in comparison to prepar3d. However I don’t know if you know about this but, orbx global base pack is aimed to be released for x-plane 11 this year! So maybe that fixes and gives the sim a lot more of the crispy textures that we all know and love and find in Prepar3d. Thank you for your time. I’m a big fan of your channel, very informative and entertaining! :D

[@AviationPro]

@@airlinepilotlife3232 Thanks! Yes ORBX is making quite a move, looking forward to it. Also heard about some other plugins already that could do the job like X-vision. But again, finding the time to install all of that is difficult currently...

[@airlinepilotlife3232]

AviationPro YES I bet it is difficult especially with you and your flight training in the real world. But hopefully something huge hits xplane 11 and makes it so much better like P3D. Thank you again for your content and information. Hope to take the skies with you someday. Whether it be virtual or real life. : )

[@isaacmcpeek9636]

I am a real pilot just general avation but I agree too many developers seem to think harder is always more realistic. I find X-planes taildraggers to have a vicious ground handling problem that is so overly unrealisticly modeled that they are too difficult to practicaly handle. Even the Tri-gear models are a bit too touchy. Once in the air X-plane handles rather nice. I don't like pre3d default selection of aircraft but there is so much more add on material but for the price it should have at least the 6 to 10 most common general avation aircraft on the real world market so us real pilots can use it to train. I did call the developers at X-plane 11 with these concerns and they said they are working on their ground handling of all their moduals especially the taildraggers . they also disclosed X-plane 12 WILL HAVE VOICE ACTIVEATED AND INTERACTIVE ATC. You speak it speaks back. This is something real work pilots struggle with and need( an ATC trainer)

[@airlinepilotlife3232]

@@isaacmcpeek9636 You know I like x-plane 11 a lot and I also like P3Dv4 a lot too ( I have both). Its funny you talk about how these developers think harder is more realistic. I happen to be a pilot in training as well, although I am quite new in the real-world aviation level. I do have a question that either aviation pro, or you can help me with, or anybody, but, how realistic in terms of the physics are the 3rd party payware aircraft i.e. carenado, PMDG, etc. in Prepar3D v4? Which one is truly closer to the real thing. I know what a Cessna 172 and Bonanza would feel like because those are the only 2 airplanes I flew in the real world for now. But yeah, I just wanna here from other pilots' perspective on which sim is truly closer to reality, XP11 or P3D. Thanks, see you in the skies! :)

[@rohan.kdv21]

''maybe a friend of yours has one of the sims that you can try'' Yeah.... my friends dont even know what a flight sim is. And if they knew what it was they would probably make fun of me for it.

[@AviationPro]

Make fun of you? Hmm...

[@martinhansen9036]

I agree Its hard to find peeps that love flight simming as much as we all do.

[@readabookdummy]

@@martinhansen9036 true

[@SimHustler]

@@martinhansen9036 yep i get mocked for virtual flyin

[@ersaviation3031]

Same

[@rbarlow]

Crispiness? I might say cartoonish-ness. X-Plane 11 may look washed out to you but that is more what the real world looks like from an airplane. I say that as a 23000+ hour retired Airline pilot. I agree that with your lots of add ons you are invested in P3D and shouldn’t switch. I really think considering the cost and capabilities of each sim right out of the box with no add ons that XP11 is a better value. It handles more realistically too IMHO. Thanks for your video... I appreciate your opinion.

[@AviationPro]

That's true :) It depends a bit on the weather conditions as well I guess. Some of my real world flights were very clear and crisp, it's something that's hard to describe, but there can be days where it's hazy and misty and everything around you looks kind of washed out.

[@Androidandmore101]

@@AviationPro yeaa you still can't prove your point, When I was working on instrument X-plane proved to be the most realistic sim with by far better flight characteristics. Any real pilot would notice that.

[@jakeaviator1515]

Rolf C. Totally agree

[@airwipe1639]

jesus fucking christ that is a lot of hours, 2.6255708 years worth of hours in the cockpit to be exact

[@Androidandmore101]

Rotate Aviation fair enough! I respect that.

[@leokimvideo]

I just wish Microsoft Flight Sim came back, no one was crying about what it could and couldn't do back in the day Sad these days everyone finds faults in just about everything. Had to remove previous comment it attracted a spammer

[@leokimvideo]

@Roberto Gatti That Jesus coming back, not Flight Sim

[@iberia7376]

Your wish has been granted

[@yannisl8259]

@@iberia7376 and the sim is bad...

[@iberia7376]

@@yannisl8259 y

[@BillCipher1337]

@@yannisl8259 no.

[@chandlerhoyle754]

I don’t care what sim you use I will still learn a lot from you!

[@AviationPro]

Thanks! :D

[@chandlerhoyle754]

@@AviationPro By the way is snow on the ground default in p3d or just orbx?

[@AviationPro]

Seasonal ground textures are default in P3D, but the ones you see here are part of the ORBX Innsbruck scenery.

[@MikePlaysYeet]

Today I'm going to x-plane why I'm not switching over to explain. xD

[@AviationPro]

:D

[@rolexkings7747]

You don't have to switch..I fly XP11 P3DV4 and still fly FSX.

[@Therion0184]

I know right? Each has their strengths. I use both, though I'd grant that if you had to pick one or the other X-Plane is much easier on the wallet in the long term. But holy hell do X-Plane devotees get their panties in a bunch when you criticize it in any capacity

[@weswheel4834]

To be fair, he didn't say that it wasn't possible to fly both, just that he didn't feel that he had the time and money to get properly into xplane at the moment. Sure, all his current hardware should work with xplane 11 and there's zibo mod together with enough freeware scenery, cloud enhancements and 'free' ortho to get into it cheaply but it needs a time investment. I'm the opposite, I have P3Dv4 and xplane 11. Every time I fly it, it reminds me why I like to stick to xplane (P3D still feels like old technology to me). He's got a point about the seasons though.

[@cutliss]

Why do you use fsx? Md11?

[@CDNSpartan]

I fly in FS9, FSX, P3DV3, XP10, and XP11

[@PrinceRock9]

I know, this switching rather than just flying another sim also is divisive. Sets up an ultimatum which is ficticious.

[@theflightsimboy4310]

Some add ons to make your X-Plane look much better: -Ortho4xp (free) -MisterX: HD trees, Airport environnement HD and static aircrafts (free) -Sim heaven X-europe 2 (free) -X-Vision pro (18.-) -Active Sky XP (36.-) (the first 3 are must-have) Enjoy!

[@AviationPro]

Thanks, useful list! :)

[@Mastercaution666]

Nice

[@c0r5e]

Now you just need an extra 100 gb of space

[@flywitholiver]

Yes, for similar reasons I am not switching to Prepar3D, but mostly because I'm more used to Xplane

[@Willoz269]

So lack of seasons in XP upsets you but flying with a 14 year old navigation database does not??? P3D bases all their flight dynamics with a text file...nothing dynamic about it, this is why it is not “exaggerated”....flying P3D to XP visuals is like comparing War Thunder to DCS....looks crisper and nicer, with nothing to compare for flight dynamics. This is why more pilots use XP than P3D...

[@Pbt31]

Nomad I agree with you. A flight sim as it says, tries to simulate flight experience first. For me XPlane does this job. I have a private pilot license and I can find the same feeling on XPlane, not in my previous FSX experience because of his outdated flight model. For example crosswind approaches are hundred times better in XPlane when you have practiced in real Life. But everyone is looking for something different... (sorry for my approximate « french » english :-)

[@AviationPro]

The navigation database is updatable, and using AIRAC data for FMCs this is not a problem. Watch the video carefully, I already explained that flight dynamics are not even that important to me.

[@stm3252]

thanks Nomad for bringing this up!!For people complaining about seasons in XP, there's plenty of great seasons mod in x-plane.org!!!

[@fingerhorn4]

@Nomad It is a complete myth that P3d/FSX flight model is based on a "text file". The quality or accuracy of FDEs in both sims is largely reliant on the individual programming of the flight model for individual aircraft, which in both sims is very flexible regarding variations in lift, inertia. drag, thrust and other parameters. I've flown good to terrible flight models in both sims. Both have major flaws in ground handling and turbulence but once in the air both can provide decent flight modelling. The vast majority of sim pilots, at least from youtube evidence, seem to fly largely without any particular challenge to a sophisticated flight model (they usual take off, cruise and land after a pretty boring flight with almost zero demands made on any advanced aerodynamics) and that's because most sim pilots are emulating very bland passenger airline flights which require FMCs, autopilot and procedures rather than pushing flight envelopes. Both sims can do this very well with decent programming.

[@mro9466]

@Nomad X-plane 11 default flight model is so good that Flight Factor built a complete Flight Model outside of XP for their A320 :)

[@fly_with_xcz5060]

On my way is Xplane more realistic flight simulator and I think that the Zibo 737 is really good aircraft when you have the cabin and interior update. But it is you’re choice :) P3d is still good sim. But I like Xplane more..

[@rickyboy199554]

4:38 "it's very different to X Plane" i see what you did there

[@dariusthesimp5943]

okay good one xd

[@pushingtin207]

...very difficult to x-plane"....LOL

[@AviationPro]

:)

[@DeineOmi1976]

The lack of seasons can be solved with xAmbiance for 35$. The best feature in xAmbiance is, the season landscape is not only depent on chossed month or season. If you will fly in December and you set -10° outside temeratur, than you will snow fall and snowy landscape. If you choose December with +10°, you won´t see snow fall you will see rain and you don´t see snowy landscape, because is to warm outside.

[@DeineOmi1976]

@Mr TriL I´m not agree. If you will fly with P3D or FSX, than you need to spend lot of money. I spent lot of money for FSX SE only for nice fly. P3D and FSX SE are based on old engine and they looks very ugly out of the box. For XP11 I purchased only few things, most of them was planes, because in my oppinion XP11 looks really good out of the box.

[@Final_Turn]

I switched to xplane 11. Though I used FSX for 15 years, I am not going back to FSX. ZIBO 737 gives similar feel as you would in level D. PMDG does not. Plugins are way better. On top of everything, FPS ! It took one week for switching but it worths really ♥️ Regards,

[@paulsynnott2709]

I switched a couple of weeks ago. No matter what addons you have, the immersion will be destroyed by low FPS or stuttering. On the other hand, a completely smooth flying experience can mean that you forget about those other bits of immersion that are absent (for now). I still fly both anyway.

[@jakub-kube]

@@paulsynnott2709 I actually get about 2-3 times more frames in xplane than fsx

[@vhbil]

A lot of simmers like P3D, and that is OK. Because I am a real world pilot and know how a plane handles... I choose X-Plane 11. If you after more realism, go for X-Plane.

[@elijah.g]

As someone who is a diehard x plane fan, I see where your coming from, especially with the crispy textures. It’s hard to explain, but I can usually tell immediately if someone it using the PMDG or the zibo. The PMDG/FSLabs aircraft textures are just crispier.

[@vedymin1]

I have both sims and i like p3d more, fm's in good addons like a2a or pmdg are very good, even better than in airfoillabs or rep etc. if you want unstable air, you can set it so and there will be no flight on rails feel, i always set some small turbulence to simulate this.

[@RPSchonherr]

I went from FS 2004 to X-Plane 11. The biggest thing I miss is lack of VFR ATC. If you fly in class G or E airspace you do not have to contact ATC but you do tune in to local traffic and call out your positions for other traffic in the area.

[@seraphel616]

After long years flying in FS9 I was wondering what sim would be better for up-to-date simming. I really loved MSFS and knew all the keyboard commands etc - it was my home. I gave a try to demo of X-Plane 11, few flights - I wasn't convinced about this, weird key-commands, different menu, dull and different graphics, but what catched my eye was physics. Physics in this sim is far more convincing for me than products of MS. You can feel the wind, can soar like in old good Condor Glider sim using thermals. And after years of MSFS on my PC, the new came - XP11, after few upgrades its really good (not perfect still) sim. So turning to (let's say) different team sometimes can give a new and fresh look of what we know. Happy flying!

[@AviationPro]

Honestly, I would wait for FS2020. Lot's of good stuff seems to be coming that year, so it does not really make sense to invest heavily into a new sim.

[@Doggepe]

Performance is the biggest factor for me, i can see you lagging in the P3D videos. I have a i7 9700k and a 1080ti but i'm still having low FPS in P3D/FSX with my addons. XP is stable around 50 or more fps depending on area. Huge factor for the whole feeling of flying

[@NegdoshaManido]

I still fly FSX a bit because I have some Addons I really love, but I decided it was time to give X-Plane another try. I tried it many years ago and just did not care for it, but I now see it rapidly moving in to replace FSX/P3D. The thing that really moved me to get X-Plane was the FlyJ sim 727v3 plug-in. I flew the 727 for 7 years and she remains my favorite to this day. The FlyJ sim 727 is really well done, and I prefer it over the Captainsim version for FSX. Also, the Toliss A-319 and FlightFactor A-320 plug-ins are great in X-plane, and as a current A-320/19 pilot I find them useful for staying sharp on emergency, and rarely flown procedures. I also like to “pre-fly” arrivals into new airports just to get a feel for the area before I actually go there. The flight modeling in X-Plane does feel more authentic to me, especially in general aviation aircraft like the Piper Cherokee which I learned to fly in. I will say the runway “contouring” does feel a bit exaggerated, but I have been on some runways that were pretty “wavy”! Most just do not give the kind of ride you get in X-Plane as you roll down the runway. I swear, sometimes it feels like your catching air on the takeoff roll! :D All the best to you, and keep up the good work. I enjoy your channel.

[@thenormanator9379]

The one thing I hate about X-Plane is that you need a super powerful computer to run it. I used to run FSX with high-quality add-ons on a computer designed for home use and got pretty awesome performance. Now I have a mac with which is quite a bit more powerful and I don't get the best performance in X-Plane.

[@OrionRox]

I'm still staying with FSX, main reason: I bought all addons from PMDG and many senary. I DO NOT want to purchase them again for P3D or XPlane

[@GCOCommander]

X-plane looks far more realistic when you use VR and Ortho4XP, add in live traffic and use the Zibo 737 and the game is far better than Prepar3d for visual effects. I spent thousands on add on aircraft and scenery for FSX / Prepar3d. I have spent far less on x-plane and have been far more impressed with the look and feel, especially in VR. Both sims don't give the exact feel of flight, they both feel too stable compared to the real thing. The biggest reason not to switch would be frame rate. In x-plane VR the frame rate is pretty bad with all the add-on's. I get locked in stable at 22fps on a 5.0ghz i5 7600k with a 1080ti. In Prepar3d that is more like 70fps.

[@teftaofficial7590]

i5 7600k is base 3.8 and oc to 4.2, where did you get 5ghz from?

[@adamvongaertner5224]

@@teftaofficial7590 it's overclocked to 5.0 GHz. It's easy to do with most 240mm liquid coolers. The 7600k is the best overclocking processor because of it's low core count. When people mention the clock speed it almost always is to clarify the actual speed it is running at over the stock clock. It wouldn't make sense to mention the stock clock speed in the description. 4.2 GHz is the turbo boost, which is not considered an overclock.

[@klasdillon]

FS 2020 will fix all of this and all other flight simulators will be dead

[@02tyandy]

DillonGD maybe Microsoft is over hyping it, or you will need to get a really good computer to run the graphics that they are showing currently

[@klasdillon]

@@02tyandy yeah i dont know

[@johnpro2847]

I am still using FS 2004.Love the realistic flight models and add on scenery and add on AI makes it an ideal trainer. I tried FSX but was underwhelmed by the relative cluckiness. On the other hand some sims can seem so smooth they are like arcade games.

[@Flying_Acehole]

I know what you mean...

[@xaviation5144]

x plane has Blade element theory on all Airfoils...

[@chadquail]

I’m a long time user of MSFS and P3D. I’ve been flying the series since the Sublogic Flight Simulator II days. My P3D recently died yet again and I couldn’t muster the will to re-install the dozens of addons required to make P3D look and fly well. I decided to give X-plane 11 a try and was absolutely blown away by how much better it was then P3D in pretty much every way. I haven’t even considered re-installing P3D since.

[@AviationPro]

Awesome!

[@magnumgrp1]

I have been simming for almost a decade now, and just like you I started with Flight Simulator and am now using Prepared. One more reason not to switch to X-plane 11 is that Prepared currently has a gazillion times more add-ons available!

[@xX_Gravity_Xx]

Yeah. I just uninstalled X-Plane 11 (sadly and purchased P3D) to make room for ORBX. I realized while flyingthe AFL 172 that I'd miss my TFDi 717 too much to leave this sim. Maybe when I get another SSD lol.

[@EmesiS]

Switching over is a pain. I started with FSX and then to P3D. Once you start investing in software then you're really stuck with what you have. I thought about switching to X-Plane many times, but they were still behind on a lot of addons. FSUIPC was one of them. At the time there wasn't an XPUIPC. There were other pieces of software that didn't have X-Plane compatibility either. If you're building a full size sim and not a desktop, then X-Plane still has some catching up to do. Maybe X-Plane 15 will be the one. Time will tell.

[@mathiasstokbk8065]

4:38 idk, it's very difficult to "xplane", btw i know im not funny

[@finnxmusic]

charles leclerc

[@amllsoup9732]

@@finnxmusic nice

[@Eructation1]

X plane with Orbx True Earth UK is simply stunning. The c172 and that scenery is as real as it gets. It’s perfect for VFR navigation practise.

[@blackjack6259]

I spent about 2 years trying to decide whether to switch to P3D or XP while I was still playing FSX. I finally made the switch this las December to XP for multiple reasons but the biggest reason is the realistic flight model for GA flying as that is what I prefer to do. You are correct about the cost of add-ons. I think the reason you are not seeing the seasons change right now in XP is because they are working on switching the base code to Vulcan. Rewriting the sim from the base up will take a lot of time but I think it will be the best for them to do that right now instead of later down the road. I think once that is done then they will work on things like the ATC and seasonal changes. I have been flight simming for well over 20 years and I think they are finally getting to where it is much more “real world” than it has ever been. I also chose XP for the ease of switching in and out of VR and how well it functions in VR. Best of luck on your future flight training!!!

[@AviationPro]

Thank you! :)

[@AviationPro]

In this video I explain why X-plane requires some explanation to explain my reasons for not switching to X-plane using explanations of my X-plane experiences so far explained using explanatory X-Plane footage and other X-plane experiences that explain my reasons not to use X-Plane...

[@IceFilmsss]

I got it.

[@AviationPro]

;)

[@christianwendt7852]

Please explain

[@joewaxman8746]

Hey do you get better FPS with modded P3D or vanilla XP11?

[@guitboxgeek]

@@joewaxman8746 I've come to focus more on immersion than fps. If you're chasing fps, X-Plane probably isn't the right choice for you since it's more about intense calculations around the flight model.

[@jerrywestfall4785]

I have over 2000 hrs. of which most was as a CFII. When I was actively flying I used MS FSX to practice instrument procedures before my IFR proficiency check rides. I just moved to X-Plane and I agree with a lot of your findings. My main complaints with X-Plan are the flight dynamics of the GA aircraft and the lack of a good ATC system. I like to do instrument flying and the X-Plane ATC just doesn't even come close to the real world controlled environment.

[@AviationPro]

You may want to try VATSIM to get a more realistic ATC experience :)

[@Sy-T007]

I have Xplane and P3D and honestly, Xplane doesn't seem to be making any attempts none whatsoever at realism in terms of texture, it looks washed out, cartoony, so unreal . Metallic planes look like shiny plastic. That's my opinion anyway. I'm glad I dont have to choose between them but I honestly cant remember the last time I flew Xplane but judging from KZbin videos, I really dont want to.

[@xaviation5144]

1: Seasons can be changed to the viewers wish 2: runway follows terrain can be turned off, x plane has the most realistic airfoils using Blade Element theory, p3d must be bad if the plane just flies straight 3: Reshade for x plane 4: x plane has thousands of presets for almost all joysticks, and the download depends on your internet speed. 5: not waste time with plugins you dont need 6: P3D has a weird blue effect and x plane can be easily customized without getting reshaders, x plane overall feels more fun as almost all planes are included with FMOD sounds.

[@dontquestionmypfpijustlike8146]

X Aviation .Fsx and p3d have PMDG though. And PMDG is boss in payware aircraft

[@xaviation5144]

Vladimir Lenin think you’re forgetting the org store, loads of highly detailed pbr cheap-expensive and great for money. :)

[@RPSchonherr]

As to "Crispness": real world flying in mostly hazy. If you get 10 miles visibility you are lucky. I am bummed though that the scenery doesn't include winter, will have to get an add on.

[@AviationPro]

It's not just winter, also spring, fall etc.

[@firebird2186]

Man you're a genius. I literally learned a LOT from you. Keep up the best work Captain. Love your channel

[@AviationPro]

Thank you!

[@Hyestar]

I totally agree with this video...and I am a 20K hour airline pilot....XP11 is realistic but it falls short in several areas that P3Dv4 has done well....They should merge...kinda like the airlines. :)

[@AviationPro]

That would be a good idea indeed :)

[@fredcalvert3105]

I’m been flight siming and real world pilot for about 30 years. Both XP-11 and P3Dv4 have their strong points. For practicing real world stick and rudder procedures, X-plane is pretty much like a real world sim. I was just in a real non-motion CRJ-200 sim a few months ago and just purchased a CRJ 200 for X-plane 11 and feel that X-plane 11 is very close to the real world sim, both are over sensitive compared to a real world aircraft. On the other hand if you want to learn procedures, P3Dv4 is a more stable flight model and not as over sensitive. In reality, a real aircraft is in the middle of the two Sim engines. P3Dv4 is my preferred sim for IFR where you are procedures heavy. For stick and rudder flying x-plane is the sim I use. P3Dv4 needs to improve their basic graphics such a airport ground lighting. Floating lights on the runways is just wrong. Xplane airport lighting is excellent. Ease of uses goes to P3Dv4. I currently uses both 80% p3dv4 and 20% xplane. The biggest improvement that xplane could make is not having to use two computer and two copies of the software to put the instrument panels on a second monitor that is 100% independent of the main monitor.

[@mro9466]

But then DCS is even better :p

[@RPSchonherr]

There is a adjustment you can make for control sensitivity in XP . Make it a little softer than default. Widen the null zones a bit too.

[@nigergalactic6380]

Fly small cessna in real world to get the idea what is sensitive.

[@anessenator]

P3D is far too expensive, it's exclusionary for getting new people into the genre, which is killing it.

[@czdaniel1]

Once you bite the bullet for an entry-level Saitek yoke, and the petals, and the ULTRA High-End PC, and the _Tobii_ or _Track-IR_ and the Airplanes, and the $100 for XP11...Then the $300 on top of that for making _Prepar3D_ look and be awesome is just a drop-in-the-bucket as far as barriers it's creates to the genre.

[@LynxSergeant]

@@czdaniel1 but xplane is 60 bucks, not 100

[@czdaniel1]

@@LynxSergeant - Yes, sure...and *DCS* is, _"Free."_

[@LynxSergeant]

@@czdaniel1 You don't need addons to play X-Plane. Now yes, it greatly enhances the experience, but it's not mandatory. There are also a ton of great freeware addons, like MisterX's scenery for example.

[@czdaniel1]

@@LynxSergeant um...if it greatly enhances the eperience, then you need it. Nobody buys a program to experience the shit experience

[@loremaable]

I do have both sims definetly I think x-plane is closer to reality especially upon landing. Under P3D there is not even any shaking sensation when you touch down .

[@osils1]

Neither is there in xplane unless u have a mod

[@VinLimited]

I actually followed your footsteps. From FS2004 to P3D. I’m happy with it. Currently im even satisfied with P3D v4.5.

[@BruhBruh-mk5yg]

how is the game now? im considering switching to p3d or to xplane(but i need to wait for xplane 12) from mfs 2020.

[@BradenBogdan]

Yes I agree with you. One big one is compatibility with your system and also the quantity of the amount of add-ons. Thanks!

[@AviationPro]

Thanks for watching!

[@MyArmA2Channel]

I don't know you and this is the very first video I've watched of yours. I'm excited for you and hope you get selected for flight training! Good luck!!! I'm VERY curious to see what your opinion on the sim flight dynamics are once you've come back from flight training (I have no doubt your enthusiasm and drive will help you prevail in your endevours!). As a real world pilot who also grew up on MFS prior to any flight experience, I found myself leaning away from MFS once I understood how it FELT to fly an aircraft. I miss MFS for it's beauty and fidelity, and the wonderful community all of which are undeniable... But from a pilots standpoint, especially in the realm of general aviation I just can't get past the MFS flight model. I challenge you to come back and give us your second take down the line once you've got real world experience to compare too. In your position you have the unique opportunity to explain to your following, whom many of which will not ever have the experience, what real vs. simulation is like. In my opinion, my sim experience made my flight training easier; in both fixed and rotary wing flight training. It gave me a strong foundation. I have found that in turn my real world experience has made my simulation experience more realistic and in some ways, more challenging. For any other simmers out there reading this, the single most recommended piece of hardware I could suggest is TrackIR for head tracking. The use of head tracking dramatically increased the immersion, realism and fun of my simming, and brought it MUCH CLOSER to my real world experience. HIGHLY RECOMMEND as a priority, even over a dual or triple screen set up. It may entirely negate the need for that. Again, good luck in your selection process!

[@AviationPro]

Thank you, welcome in! :) That's indeed something I'm planning on doing. Although I can already say from a few minutes of real world Cessna 172 experience that X-Plane is indeed more realistic, no denying that, yet it's not my main point of simulation. I learned a lot using FS2004 and Prepar3D, especially in terms of system knowledge, procedures, phraseology and the general operation of an airliner. I'd love to give a full and honest opinion when I get some real world flying time! :)

[@AV8R_1]

I really need to switch from FSX to prepared, but I don’t know what’re to begin. I have sooooooooo many payware addons for FSX that there’s almost nothing left of the original sim...

[@Tom-kt8lu]

Love your videos, but I think that 'I don't really care about flight dynamics' shouldn't wait until 10:45. That's exactly what a sizeable proportion of new simmers are seeking.

[@n-plane]

Hi thanks for the vid! 3:56, im really struggling to install Locher airfield for xplane. I have the links and everything but the instructions are difficult to follow. I know im asking for much but can you please by any chance make a tutorial video on how to install the scenery for xplane 11. Thankyou .

[@epiccars5440]

Which is d best flight simulator game to play in P.C and how can i use VATSIM with the best simulator game plz reply

[@lorismeistar818]

Epic Cars probably Xplane or P3D you choose Xplane is more realistic but P3D has better add ons.

[@epiccars5440]

@@lorismeistar818 thanks mate can u pl tell pc specs

[@Izmael1310]

If you are new in Fsims you should start with XP11 if you fly for few years it is hard choice and the best choice is to have both sims (unfortunately). You dont have to invest that much money into XP11 than you have to invest in P3D (scenery and visual mods, camera mod). You can get very complex 737 for free you dont have to pay some 80 USD for PMDG 737. Problem is that P3D cant offer anything new in the future but XP11 can but it is very slow progress. Setting up hardware in XP11 takes about 10% of time than it is needed in P3D (all the calibrations, hotkeys etc.) New custom joystick setups in XP11 also help bring something new. But yes in general XP11 effects overexaggerated, xp11 cant create fog/mist at night and it does not have seasons. If you really want to have the best exprience you need both sims (unfortunately).

[@swapnilkapadia]

Overlord yeah seconded. Been on flight simming since FS2004. And now it's 2019. For guy like us it's better to have both the sim and take advantages of both.

[@TheCloudhopper]

So I've been "away" from aviation simulation for quite some time.... 8 years maybe? I flew less after the release of FSX and stuck with FS9 for a while longer. I dabbled in x-plane a bit, but always preferred the AI ATC in FS products. I flew military (DCS) for a while, primarily cause i like the helicopters. I'm kind of getting "the bug" again. Any recommendations what to try? Old FSX? Or should I buy XP11 or P3D? I got quite a few FS-addons, namely a very extensively modified A320 (PSS) that i love to bits, a PC12 I really love and my ATR72 that somehow is the plane i want to fly right now.

[@AviationPro]

I'd say try X-Plane 11 first. Perhaps try the demo and see what it feels and looks like. Then if you decide to buy it expand it with free stuff and see if you like it. Take a good look at the addon market. Make sure you determine which addons you definitely want, so you don't miss out when picking the wrong sim. In that sense the Prepar3D market is still bigger, but it looks like things are changing. Nevertheless, it takes a long time to develop something like a PMDG aircraft, so best advise I would give is do not buy a sim just because you expect a particular aircraft addon to appear sometime. That can really take quite a few years.

[@LMDProductionsOfficial]

I've been wondering how to describe that. "Washed Out" thats perfect. I am XP11 but I still agree it looks like that. P3D does look better in my opinion.

[@a_username_346]

My Reasoning on Both Simulators I currently fly in both simulators. I just recently got X-Plane 11 and I can't say the difference is ginormous. The big factor for me was ORTHO! I live in the United States and that is where I do most of my flying. I think P3D is a great sim but I do fly in X-Plane more. The autogen is 10 times better if you have Ortho installed. Any Orbx product besides True Earth can't compare. Plus Ortho is free, the downside is it takes up so much room on the Harddrive. X-plane lacks in Weather, Vatsim Model matching, long haul aircraft, and some flight dynamics, in my opinion, are a bit over the top. I think if you want to do short flights with ortho scenery X-plane is the sim but if you want to do Long hauls or Vatsim flights I would still pick P3D. The reason I tend to fly X-Plane more is the better-looking autogen, great night lighting, and the better frame rate.

[@AviationPro]

Thanks for your comment!

[@Boneyyym]

Try the bluebell obj8 csl packages! They are very good, even better than vPilot or WoAI on Fsinn modelmatching.

[@guidroidek6325]

I personally prefer x-plane but I agree with you that it's just a feeling becaus I started with it but prepard has also very great addons and it's a nice sim. That's why I gave you a like. Good video

[@AviationPro]

Thanks for watching!

[@AllThingsFlightSim]

As a CFI,I feel X-Plane Flight dynamics are better, also graphics wise use some freeware to work on the colors because yes by default X-Plane 11 is very washed out and drab,but Prepared3d needs better lighting as it still looks a bit much like FSX. I feel setting up X-Plane is quicker. I’ve had an issues where Prepared breaks for no reason at random,but I use both because they bring something different.

[@AviationPro]

Thanks for watching!

[@4ndroidG]

I fly X-Plane 11 for the flying experience and P3D for accurate system simulations like the PMDG products. The ideal would be the best of both worlds. Hopefully FS 2020 will be that product.

[@hansloyalitat9774]

fs2020 is neither, bad physics, bad systems only good graphics

[@laxter2535]

I feel your problem of defining the ˋcrispinessˋ

[@H0NDAJET]

yes especially the sky textures and flat sun. x plane sometimes look like a cartoon. i only use x plane but there are a lot things i miss even from fsx

[@AviationPro]

Haha yep

[@mhsd7178]

@@H0NDAJET To be fair the sky textures can be changed easily to look however you want.

[@H0NDAJET]

@@mhsd7178 how? ive been interested in making my own sky textures for a while

[@massimodalessandro9259]

Xvision for X Plane instantly transforms it into unbelievable! A recommended add on for sure.

[@Masonwhite12796]

What ever you like to do and whichever one you feel more comfortable with that is fine with me. As long as you have fun with it it is up to you!

[@CanadianTexaninLiguria]

I switched - you're missing out. Barely fly 4.5 anymore and MSFS, i may be ready in 2 or 3 years (as of 2021)

[@MagnumMike44]

With Laminar Research's latest X-Plane 11 update (11.53) I noticed a frames per second loss and more stutters, keep in mind that the sim is running on a custom built i9 9900K overclocked to 4.9 GHZ, 64 GB of DDR4 RAM, GTX 1080 ti GPU, on a NVME 2.0 SSD. I've also seen problems with aircraft that I have not seen before, unpredictable behavior is the best way to describe it, one example is I lost the ability to control the Beechcraft C90 on final approach and I crashed, and it wasn't a failure that I programmed. So I'm not impressed with the latest Laminar release of XP-11. I might be looking at switching to P3D V5 or MSFS 2020.

[@vraouas]

You need to fly REAL PLANES!!! first before you decide which simulator is the best. X-Plane 11 is what the vast majority of pilots use nowadays. There is no exaggeration when we talk about X-Plane, there is simple a lack of realism when we talk about PREPAR3D. It's that simple. You will realise that yourself when you start piloting a real plane. Just remember my words.

[@Aastan]

Great videos, what's the grass field when flying the Bonanza?

[@AviationPro]

Thanks! That's Locher Airfield in Italy :)

[@joveeke]

Zeer begrijpelijke uitleg! Ik ben al heel mijn leven gek van vliegtuigen. Met het zien vd upcoming MSF2020 heb ik besloten, naast het zeilen ( thuishaven is in Wolphaartsdijk), er nog een winterhobby bij te nemen. Dus helemaal nieuw in de FS-world kijk ik vol spanning uit naar de release van MS2020. Zal nog wel is menig filmpje komen bekijken op je channel. Alvast bedankt voor de nuttige tips!

[@grantmiller6570]

Agreed, just a matter of personal preference, what system you have, what you can afford, what you like the look of, all sims have their pros and cons either way. I wouldn't bash anyone for choosing any system, as long as you enjoy using what you have.

[@AviationPro]

Couldn't agree more! ;)

[@AlRashad]

Wishing you all the best, you'll make a great airline pilot someday!!

[@AviationPro]

Thank you! :)

[@talon5368]

I use X-Plane 11 and still think P3D is just a better "overall rounded" simulator. My reason to switch to X-Plane was purely based on cost. The out of the box X-Plane looks great on its own as opposed to P3D..you spend $100+ to get the same result. I admit the X-Plane flight model is definitely better but can be really wacky at times. Also, the lack of seasons is a bit of a drawback but there is an add-on for this. Basically this just comes down to cost and user preference. We should really all be happy we have these wonderful sims to use.

[@JustAnOrdinarySimmer]

I tried XP11 - managed to climb a 747 at 45 degrees up to 10,000ft - then done an entire 360 using JUST the rudder...I personally think the physics are crap

[@Hoekstes]

If I wanted to fly on rails, I'd get a train simulator. Made the switch a couple of years ago. Not looking back.

[@nowi25]

yuge

[@TheCarsandplanes]

Same as Fifa vs PES.... Play both and decide what fits better for you. But as a GA pilot, using MS FS since FS2000 and fascinated about the community and add-ons created by them, the out of box solution and physics of XP11 make me feels more comfortable despite the lack of realistc scenerys and other addons.

[@Noctureal]

P3D vs X-Plane is a topic that pops ups almost daily on forums (especially in reddit). I am totally with X-Plane and I love it as sim. But currently I still do believe that both sims have major pros and cons. It's more about personal preference what you are ready to give up to get something more. Do you want free amazing photoscenery or seasons? Outstanding GA flying or perfect long haulers? Do you prefer rails or aircraft made out of paper? These are questions person have to ask when choosing what sim to use. It's impossible to say which sim is better. With correct arguments we can make other sim look like garbage and it works both ways. In the end it will be just personal preference because both sims are really good! Important thing is that we are still one big family who just loves aviation and I am happy everyone can do it in the way they like it!

[@zorancosic1237]

Do Xplane 11 has joystick rumble feedback? Freaking Microsoft Flight Sim X doesn't have that feature like before? Thanks in advance.

[@Marc-oi7jf]

Im a xplane user myself for 1.5 years now and the thing that annoys me the most is the low availibity of addons. There are way less payware aircrafts and sceneryies availible than for p3d/fsx.

[@AviationPro]

That might change in the upcoming years...

[@TARS..]

I sure hope it does! im really thinking about buying P3D just for the PMDG 777

[@santiagosegura1281]

AviationPro as x plane can change in some years too :)

[@H0NDAJET]

yeh literally just ffa320 and zibo are the only good airliners

[@santiagosegura1281]

Wilfred Jones FF,zibo, toliss, and well for GAs a lot

[@theflyingmylle]

Fsx, is still the mother of all desktop flight simulators

[@marceghel4669]

Already too old.

[@MauritsVeen]

The flying Mylle more like the grandma

[@OninDynamics]

As an X-Plane fan... I agree. But X-Plane 11 is starting to actually catch up. It's growing faster than ever, but FSX will always be the one who started this all.

[@frankbyte]

The flying Mylle: not really or you must be very young. FSX was only one of many versions of that sim. For me the mother of the sims was FSII and Meigs Field as default airport.

[@mro9466]

FSX MASTER RACE

[@daveslow84]

none of this matters now... Microsoft FS2020 :p

[@AviationPro]

Yeah, looking forward to it 😃

[@THEMADSOUTHAFRICAN]

DCS world . Nothing as good as that flight model.. Would love to see what they can do with commercial airliners..

[@tedtedsen269]

but fs2020 dosent have helicopters dosent have sesonal texures or rendering and is online dependent and the speed of Your internett speed

[@michahund4879]

@@tedtedsen269 Ever heard about mods?

[@jaksims]

Issue for me is I went from fs98 - fs2004 - fsx - P3D V4 - so I'm familiar with the system, xplane still feels a bit alien, and I've yet to learn the key controls etc. But the biggest issue is the flight model, using a saitek yoke, most aircraft are practically unflyable, especially on takeoff / landing when the aircraft always seems to jump forward when I ease back pressure (even when trimmed correctly..) but both sims have their pluses, P3D is just my personal preference

[@Tiber234]

A well balanced explanation of your pref demonstrating to the XPlane and/or P3D bashers in each camp how to express their own pref without being negative to other ppl's . I totally agree with you re your flight dynamics point - im not a real world pilot but I have been up in a 172 so as long as the product give a decent level of ral world flight - im satisfied. Keep it up.

[@AviationPro]

Thank you!

[@stefan_x7625]

Guys, i have i problem, i cant use multiplayer. I have normal sim, not aceleration. When i put server ip it is loading for 90 sec and then stops.

[@ZicajosProductions]

To each their own. I used FSX for a long time then was between XP10 and FSX for a while. I eventually made the complete switch to XP11 and invested my money there and I am not disappointed. People spend lots of money to make P3D look “realistic” but I always preferred the kind of light-washed textures in XP over the over-shaded and over-contrast textures in P3D. As a student pilot, I also find airports, especially smaller airport layouts, to be substantially more accurate in XP over P3D, which is important to me. Then again, it just matters what’s important to you.

[@robertoates7452]

I think your last few points are probably the most valid -- I used to own both sims but found myself using X-Plane more, eventually I stopped using P3D mainly because I wasn't willing to invest a lot of time and money to bring it up to par with what X-Plane was basically giving me for free. Likewise, if a person who has already invested a lot in P3D will probably be less inclined to go with X-Plane as their main sim since X-Plane not quite as well rounded in terms of overall features -- even after you take addon's into account ... but as you said this is changing too.

[@AviationPro]

Yep, those are the ones that are most important to me as well. For me it's especially the time thing, with real life commitments now really making the 'switch' difficult :)

[@andreyaviator737]

Nice comparison , I like it. really in prepard3 much better model aircraft . But as a pilot, I’ll say that the flight in xplane11 is more real examples: TAC etc. in real life, there are many flight factors, and in the x plane they are more approximate, although the obs are going to the SOP...

[@swapnilkapadia]

Greazer Zibo is nowhere close to Pmdg 737 lol. You can't simulate failures with proper QRH and stuff. FMC is very basic like not being able to enter RNP or No wind data calculations for descent planning etc. It's only good for what it cost which is free. I am fixing my Zibo most of time than flying it lol. Sure, FF757 is better than P3D's shitty Captain Sim 757. Same goes with FF767 since P3D doesn't have one. About FF320 it's really good but not as detailed as FsLabs A320/A319 which allows to simulate failures with Ecam actions, icing and way more advanced FMC. The only plus side of X plane what I have found is good default airports, many freeware add-ons and flight dynamics until it's in bad weather.

[@andreyaviator737]

Greazer any plane in the simulator does not perform 90% of the simulation neither prepar3d nor x plane 11. it's me as a civil aviation pilot talking. it's about flight quality ; such examples as wind, icing, all five types of turbulence, taxiing with a tiller . I tried to land the plane in prepar3d model according to pmdg in icing conditions, wind more than 60 knots and to my surprise I land, how it can be the right physics? if you want real physics so let's fly with me)))

[@swapnilkapadia]

Andrey Tabolin winds, 5 types of turbulence etc neither does a full motion level d sim can do it

[@andreyaviator737]

Swapnil Kapadia so x plane 11 is much better than prepar3d, I tried and on the dynamics of x plane 11 in my opinion better simulates flight conditions

[@swapnilkapadia]

Andrey Tabolin yeah environmental effects on x plane is great compared to p3d

[@kekke2000]

I'm an X-plane fan and it is more of a platform than a complete sim. If you want a good airliner it will cost as much as the sim itself. Seasons is easy to install as a free addon. But it would be nice to have it there out of the box.

[@budguy21]

I see you use 2 keyboards. You should check out the Elgato StreamDeck, it is amazing.

[@peterlevel]

It all comes down to what you want in a sim, what's important to you and weighing ur options

[@chrmantilla]

I use FSX, and i know X-Plane or Prepar3d may be better, but i put big money buying software, add ons and hardware and setting it up, so I dont think changing would worth it.

[@sevburkart6524]

I really like this new year’s videos and their frequency. I especially encourage videos like this and story ones like “My worst VATSIM flight.” Keep up the good work!

[@AviationPro]

Glad you like it, wilco! :)

[@lpma4286]

Hey, you don't have to X plain !

[@Daimo83]

What is the airstrip at 4:00?

[@AviationPro]

Locher airfield, in Italy :)

[@Daimo83]

Awesome, thanks - that's my sunday sorted!

[@Mezott]

Hey capt! Nice video, dude i need your help, my landings are terrible !! I always got like -230~-280 fpm on touchdowns !! Do you have any tutorial for improve landings on the boeing family (737,777,747,787) ? Thanks capt for those tutorials.

[@AviationPro]

Thank you! Try this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2nVY6qKZthrhbs

[@Neo-je4bi]

I used Flight Simulator X and P3D for 10 years now. I switched recently to X-plane and now I wonder why I didn't do it before, because the simulator has everything better ! I think the only real reason is that I was not opened to something new. I think FSX has made it's time now, but I don't want to use MSFS, because it's not ready yet. I'm having so much fun with X-plane now. I had lost that excitement before flying, but now it's back.

[@ajc0372]

If you're just starting with flight sims which would you recommend to start with?.

[@AviationPro]

I'd say X-Plane! Just to see if this hobby is really for you :)

[@ajc0372]

@@AviationPro Thanks for the reply. Can you use X-plane to learn flight procedures?.

[@Canadian76]

I agree 100% whatever your used too and whatever your comfortable with. I’m a P3D fan I got lots of money invested in Prepared and that’s what I’m staying with. Plus I don’t have the time nor the money to invest in another sim.

[@AviationPro]

Thanks for your comment!

[@brownechr]

I can only talk about a 172 but my experience is that, out of the box, XP is very very stable compared with the real plane and P3D is so far away from reality it's insane. Adding REP to the 172 and having Active Sky running in XP brings thing up to quite close to the real thing. When flying a 172 on a hot day you are constantly being shoved around in the sky - the difference is that it's much easier to correct things in the real plane as you can feel every movement, which makes the case for having them toned down in a sim. Also, as someone else mentioned, XP looks real from the cockpit, down to how close you need to be to see the airfield - perhaps a review of your graphics settings is in order?

[@ВладимирЗенкин-я4щ]

Can anyone tell me why X-plane aircrafts are sooo easy to control? I mean, they fly exactly where I point them to fly, I can easily make a 180 degree turn at much sharper angle than in P3D, I can with no effort do a barrel roll and loops on heavy planes like 737 for example, which I cannot do in P3D. Although all my sensitivity settings are on "maximum realism". I do enjoy graphics X-plane provides but is it really how planes should act in real life? I ve never piloted one so just guessing. Is there anything I can do to that issue?

[@sol3cito33]

I bought X Plane 11 a week ago, being an FSX/XPlane guy for over 20 years... Lacking proper seasonal textures, it's unlikely I will make the "big" switch. Such a shame Laminar didn't bother making seasonal textures.

[@alexbeckett2148]

I think the whole debate about simulators is like the debate about if Cessna, Piper, Cirrus etc is the better aircraft. In the end it doesn't matter what you use as long as you are flying! Love the content BTW!

[@AviationPro]

Haha absolutely true, thanks! :)

[@AlohaRaceTeam]

Thanks! I stream fsx but have people on my case about still using fsx and was stuck between prepared and x plane wasn't convinced with x plane and this video helped cement that

[@AviationPro]

You're welcome!

[@EnVyGamez]

I Respect your choice i fly X-Plane 11 and still run P3D V4 also and where you said its the feeling i can relate to that :) Thx

[@AviationPro]

Thanks for watching!

[@gemster18]

I respect your decision but I do not agree with you, if you're looking for a desktop simulator that actually is closer to reality, not perfect by any means but closer and you should look no further than X-Plane 11 at this point. FSX and prepare 3D are very similar and just don't really do it as well as X-Plane 11.

[@CyberSystemOverload]

That is a very subjective view and this debate on the sims will never end. Someone else will say "look no further than fsx". End game: all of us should just use what makes us happy.

[@CAL1MBO]

@@CyberSystemOverload Actually it's pretty much factual.

[@ninthcsg]

Hey, does anyone know what airport that is beginning at 2:35seconds??

[@AviationPro]

St. Barths.

[@ninthcsg]

@@AviationPro Thanx Bro.....

[@AV8R_1]

I really want to switch to Prepared, from FSX, but I’ve had FSX since it came out and am absurdly invested in payware adding for it. I really don’t want to have to buy all that stuff again. It must be a few thousand dollars at least.

[@sal_strazzullo]

Maybe some of the software you got is still compatible with Prepared, since Prepared it's based on FSX.

[@jguthauser]

Just discovered your channel recently and love it. Learned a lot of information about VFR thanks to you in your other videos. You speak very loud and clear and not to fast which is good. I personally began my flight sim experience recently and went straight ahead on MSFS 2020 which is getting better and better (specially with all the mods that came out and are coming out). But I recently bought X-Plane 11 to test it a bit. I kind of like it too although I still prefer MSFS for now. It is a lot easier to install mods also with MSFS. One day I'll try maybe Prepar3d too, just to see all the differences between all three sim. Keep it up with your videos, they're useful ! Have a lovely day !

[@AviationPro]

Thanks for your nice comment, Jonathan! :)