Story of My WORST Flight on VATSIM, EVER!

[@AviationPro]

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[@jbu4956]

Why?

[@PeadarBoc]

Just now..when my sim crashed only 40 nm from the airport, after a 6 hour flight.

[@AviationPro]

:(

[@rayanaltowayan9558]

I can relate 😂😂😂

[@harithfisch]

Ouch. I can feel that feeling.

[@theflyingmylle]

I feel you. 😭

[@greenaviation]

This just happened to me not long ago, LAX-HNL, I crashed 30 mins from the airport after 6 hours. Sold my GPU and bought a new one because of it, lol

[@cptarianus824]

My worst flight experience was the real one. I was fresh newbie CPL and flew turboprop L-410 night cargo flight from LKPD to LKVO. L-410 have only simple GPS, no FMS. We flew to Vodochody, by GPS we should be in the position, but we had not visual on the airport. We seen the city, plus minus as I'm from Prague we were capable to triangulate where we are...but where the airport should be was just the dark hole... It's took a two go around until we found the place, but hell, it's was a worst experience ever as we were a fuel dry when we get to Prague...and Prague ATC is always pain in the ass...

[@AviationPro]

Thanks for sharing! :)

[@dominikmilien]

Češi tady :-) v LKPD jsou L-410 pořád

[@rayanaltowayan9558]

My worst experience was during my first flights on VATSIM , I had to ask the ATC to repeat the instructions so many times it wasn’t even funny. Also it was very busy, so I had to withstand him shouting at me to “listen better” and take “better notes” of the instructions. 😂

[@aquibjashifer723]

Though you are new to VATSIM, you need to learn how to respect other pilots. Your behaviour with me the other day was very disgusting.

[@cosmii]

@@aquibjashifer723 small world huh?

[@gasviation9077]

@@aquibjashifer723 god damn

[@captaineren544]

You gotta read mine! It was on 26th May 2018, I was flying from Istanbul to Düsseldorf with Blackbox Simulations' Airbus A330-300. The flight was fine until the throttles suddenly went all the way to TOGA when I was about 40 nautical miles away from Hungarian airspace. I was like "What is going on?". I tried to put the throttles to CLB detent (Which it should be there after thrust reduction until landing) but then the aircraft *insisted* to return to TOGA detent. I tried to balance the aircraft's power in order to maintain the targeted airspeed and to avoid excessive fuel consumption by pressing F1 maybe hundreds of times! It was a torture to me! I decided to continue my flight to Düsseldorf despite the problem. But it all got worse when I was about to enter the final approach course. I was approaching to runway 05R on ILS approach. But when the throttles went to TOGA again, it had climbed assuming that I'm going around. It's a bit hard to tell how the situation was but I had to declare an emergency due to my aircraft not maintaining altitude and throttles stuck at TOGA! Both autopilots were enabled at that time maybe that's why it didn't maintain altitude. It took me a time to know that. But then, I landed safely at Düsseldorf airport. After that flight, I decided to return to Istanbul with PMDG's Boeing 777-300ER. There are other incident stories of mine but I decided to pick that one. It's the worst in my opinion.

[@AviationPro]

Thanks for sharing! :D

[@khalidfh]

I remembered one time, when approach landing, TOGA goes on, so I climbed, back repeat that 3 times, so decide to climb dump the fuel and glide to the airport, that was the best way to ensure TOGA is shut down.

[@captaineren544]

@@khalidfh Which aircraft?

[@khalidfh]

@@captaineren544 A330-300

[@captaineren544]

@@khalidfh Okay. But why did you dump the fuel and then glide to the airport? You could have landed without doing that.

[@iolauspasanisi8075]

Definitely more interesting stories about your flights, pls :)

[@AviationPro]

Thanks!

[@NextGenGamer1]

Haha I'm from Sarajevo. Though approach, huh? Even I, who knows our area very well, had problems with mountains so many times. Bosnia is a beautiful country for VFR flying in GA aircraft

[@AviationPro]

Yep you’re right! It’s very beautiful indeed

[@melvinelder3587]

A little tip for you in the future is when your planning your flight you also plan your divert airport and you can pack your charts before you get in the air

[@richskater]

Mine was a Cross the Pond event. In real life I've flown (as a passenger) from KIAD to DUB. I decided I was going to recreate the flight for CTP, my first ever. The flight over was great. Had some IMC to near minimums for landing. No worries, I shoot the ILS like a boss and I'm getting close to minimums and still no runway. Just as we hit minimums I see the runway and it's waaay off to the left. Obvious go-around situation, but for whatever reason my brain goes full off-line (or steam version) mode. I cut the autopilot and bank a hard left; I've been flying for 6.5hrs, I'm putting this bird down! I crashed. The combination of the steep turn, low altitude and inexperience in hand flying a 747 wasn't pretty. Upon crashing, I hard shut down my PC hoping the controllers would just think I disconnected. I even left the house so I wouldn't be home in case the Vatsim police called to investigate. In the wake of doing all the prep work to make sure my routing was allowed and brushing up on the procedures I didn't do any practice landings in Ireland to check if my sceneries and ILS frequencies were correct. I kinda didn't want to. I had never seen the airport in the sim before so I thought it'd be cool landing at a completely unfamiliar airport, which is not uncommon in real life actually. So to takeaway from that, always keep your composure. Even though it's a sim, I would have gone around in real life had that situation happened and I shouldn't have to tried to force the landing, especially at minimums. Also, check that your airport sceneries match your charts. Otherwise you might shoot an ILS to a runway that hasn't been built yet!

[@AviationPro]

Yes, that's always hard: how far do you want to go to pretent it's not a sim, especially under time pressure or, for example, when you really want to go to bed. Thanks for sharing your story!

[@hackbretthb2043]

Why hasn't ATC advised on the off centerline position? Normally if you deviate too far, they will check up if it's intended. Especially under bad visibility conditions...

[@benjaminkapferer4949]

I feel you, that’s very sqd

[@neunundfuenfzig]

What’s the vatsim police?

[@JUmAHQ]

My worst experience was actually on IVAO. I was flying a Boeing 767 of Condor from Frankfurt to Salvador in Brazil. During climing, I got into a deep Stall and wasnt able to recover the plane. Since today that is my only Crash in a Flight Simulator on a serious flight

[@AviationPro]

That sounds pretty bad!

[@Moshimulations]

I was flying from Paris to Ivory Coast (Cote ivore) but had to divert to the nearest airport with my A350 because I ran out of fuel, luckily I managed to land with one engine fully working. Sadly I couldn't continue my flight as I faulted the plane by not turning on APU so rip me. This was offline on Xplane 11 using FF A359

[@henrybayha1063]

I was taking off from Santa Barbara and I was just over the mountendms when for some reason my nose started to tip down and my engines flamed out and I crashed. Must have been some glitch or something.

[@ИЖирков]

I was on a training flight (IVAO), taking off from an airport located at 8300 ft. I was kind of nervous and forgot to lean the mixture. Shortly after I lift up, plane stalled and well, I lost that quiz. Since then I studied a lot about leaning the mixture, and couldn't be more prepared!

[@AviationPro]

Good to learn through your mistakes! :)

[@Gery277]

Hello! How did you this flight playback?

[@Vinzmannn]

Hey man. You got me into vatsim and I wanted to thank you for making these hugely helpful videos. Keep it up :D

[@AviationPro]

You're welcome! :)

[@meghanhailey6968]

Košice is my home airport, glad to see somebody flying from there (although mentioned on a bit negative occasion here :D ). Also, good job at pronouncing the city name right, most foreigners get it wrong. Thanks for sharing :)

[@AviationPro]

You’re welcome! I learned the correct pronunciation from some Slovak friends I met a few years ago and from a JustPlanes video about SkyEurope :D

[@ReseYT]

Fellow person from Kosice, even though the video is quite old. Yay!

[@dariusthesimp5943]

I learnt how to pronounce it from him XD

[@Ruby1994ful]

this reminds me of the flight i've done from romania bucharest to beijing with one refuel stop in kazahstan. when doing the approch at beijing, ive discovered that i do not have any working instruments and no FMC, just relying on the ATC telling me the altitude and speed. It was night and a bit foggy and just on final found out i don't have a landing gear as well and also no flaps indicator, so i didn't knew if they are deployed or not. But hats off for the ATC from Beijing with his perfect english and his help, i've managed to do a belly landing at around 143kts after the second attempt. What a flight I had. P.S. was using a TAROM Boeing 737-800 NGX

[@tommegg8486]

One of my worst VATSIM session was when I'm pretty new with the network. I was flying from Vienna to Innsbruck with a321, i was pretty new with airbus family as well as I'm a Boeing guy. The lack of mastery in the aircraft, English is actually my 3rd language, plus the heavy German accented ATC basically brewed into a disaster. I was sweating bullet trying to understand the aircraft, what the ATC are saying, and scouring over my chart. It was painful experience to say the least but was a very humbling experience

[@wizzair0017]

Now, you are a pilot I would fly with. Sincerly, The World

[@phoenixfloof9799]

The worst Vatsim flight I ever made was the one on the first wings event (don’t worry it was my 7th flight on vatsim) The controllers spoke so quite or ignored you although nobody else was speaking and the other pilots were so annoying. They flew with American delta or Qantas and sometimes did not know how to fly their plane! The guy in front of me was trying to figure out how to take off! If you want to learn how to fly then do it via tutorials and not with the ATC. All together created a delay of 40mins and then when I arrived the EGGD controllers left (the event was not even over yet)

[@RNPAR0.1]

I think the point of "First Wings" was to get new pilots flying with ATC on VATSIM... Before my first flight on VATSIM I had at least 2 weeks of studying real life procedures and phraseology. Not everyone has the patience to understand how things work before jumping into VATSIM. Anyway, "First Wings" was an opportunity to have ATC guide pilots who are noobs/new to the network

[@phoenixfloof9799]

I understand if someone does not know ATC rules but I don’t know why they join without knowing how to fly

[@AviationPro]

That’s sad to hear. The event description clearly stated that pilots were expected to know how to fly their planes. I’m afraid it will always remain difficult to let people extend their attention span and read and prepare properly.

[@ronijatkola]

Where l can dowload Tivat Airport scenery? I don't found it anywhere :/

[@AviationPro]

Check out the last posts in this Avsim thread: www.avsim.com/forums/topic/518681-installers-needed-for-skyhighsim-sceneries/?page=2 It's from an old scenery developer that isn't around anymore.

[@ronijatkola]

@@AviationPro that works with Prepar3D v4? My computer says "unable to locate Microsoft Flight Simulator X (includin Steam Edition) or Lockheed Martin Prepar3D v1/v2/v3" when i'm trying to install that.

[@AviationPro]

For me it works. You might need to create a fake Prepar3D V3 folder and install it there and then just copy the scenery contents into your V4 folder

[@ronijatkola]

@@AviationPro okay😅

[@sebastiaanmarynissen9667]

My worst flight was my second one on vatsim, EIDW to EBBR on the 777-300ER. I was not aware that the PTT button on my joystick was also mapped to TO/GA. During the descent I already noticed a few strange things and after the landing clearance I seemingly lost total control of the plane. Had to go around about 3 times and ironically it was not until the controller logged off after being patient with me for half an hour that I was able to put it on the ground. 😂 Took me a year before I dared to connect to vatsim again. 😅

[@M4TTFPV]

Last year I was flying on the vatsim network. Doing a VFR flight in an a2a Piper, when I lost all electrical power heading from Shoreham to Sibson (my local airfield). As I was only 20 miles from sibson I continued visually

[@AviationPro]

Luckily you were VFR :)

[@OliverDavidson-em8hj]

do you use active sky or rex sky force 3d

[@darkshadow7709]

Both

[@AviationPro]

Yep, both.

[@aviatorsdream4686]

My worst vatsim flight was my inaugural flight of my PMDG MD-11. Had no idea how to fly a Douglas! Went back to the A320!

[@ericburns8697]

Another very dangerous flight I had on the network was a local hop from KPHL to KLNS (Lancaster) Cruise was low, as we were VFR, around maybe 1000-2000 ft AGL. Long story short, weather changed in a matter of minutes, and during dusk, extremely thick fog set in from 3500 ft down to just 100 ft above. I was flying an EMB-120 Brasilia, which isn’t exactly the most maneuverable plane in the world (not many are when you have 100 feet to make a maneuver) and we had to resort to IFR ruling and initiate an ILS approach as the 20+ Mi visibility conditions we took off with just disappeared. This was the perfect time for the ILS system servos to fail, resulting in me having to blindly hand fly the plane down onto the runway with no visual contact with the field until by then was 50 feet above the field. Talk about an IFR approach! Bit of a rough landing, but acceptable for a Brasilia with a pilot flying blind lmao.

[@theplanedude7960]

My worst flight was with a 757-200 from Reus 🇪🇸- Glasgow 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 and the Glasgow approach was terrible thunder storms / low visibility & crosswinds I requested visual (FMC CRASHED ) and instead of saying turn left heading 247, maintain flight level 120 i though he said 227 ~ i was coming down and the controller “TOMJET 886 GO AROUND’ I flew into terrain about 20NM from the runway

[@PreciselyTuned]

And that's why you should always read back :)

[@ghostdog688]

Little late to the party but I’ll share a story with one of my MP flight sims (Falcon BMS) In an earlier version of the sim, the weather updated every so often but uses a probabilistic system (or basically rolls a dice to determine the weather change and how severe the change is). Night approach, low on fuel after a sortie and I’m on a 3 mile final. Calm winds but only enough fuel for this approach or I’m gonna have a bad day. About 30 seconds to touchdown, the weather updates, and I must have rolled a bad one. Suddenly I have a 25 knot crosswind and visibility drops off a cliff. 25 knots is bad in an airliner, but in a little jet like an f16 i felt like a sock in a tumble dryer! I managed to recover and complete the landing, going long and not actually touching down until about halfway up the runway. Pretty sure my brakes were about on fire and my tyres would have burst if this had been for real.

[@AviationPro]

Haha, thanks for sharing, good recovery! :D

[@sadranasseri6838]

Never had a bad flight experience, but as a s2 controller I have had some bad times. An example of that was when I was controlling tower for the first time since I have gotten my S2 rate and all of a sudden 3 aircraft: 1 A350, 1 trike, and 1 piper just appear out of nowhere and request circuits. The reason that it was bad was because it was a pain in the butt to separate them bc their speeds where not matched at all! XD

[@AviationPro]

Haha I can imagine how frustrating that must be :)

[@sadranasseri6838]

AviationPro it sure was, if you ever want to fly in the Iran VACC let me know and I can provide ATC service for you . [e-mail]

[@ericburns8697]

I was maybe two or three weeks into flying on the network, third year total of flying on XP10, so I knew the planes but not so much the ATC interactions. Was flying an A330-243 for US Airways from KPHL-KMIA. The plane was larger so if we encountered weather I wasn’t too concerned with the capabilities of the ILS computer systems onboard. Climb out and cruise from Philly were fine until around FL210, descending into KMIA, when the turbulence hit the slightest bit, and the ATIS system I had onboard the JAR330 failed. So not only did I not have weather info, at nearly the same moment it began to hail, which damaged the radome and forward TCAS / WX Radar dish. Descended to FL100, then 050 via ATC. Still no ATIS, no WX info or radar, aside from airport ATIS given via radio, which only covered the Class Bravo around the airport. Ended up going around three times and having to declare a fuel emergency on top of airframe / hail damage. Glad I landed ok tho.

[@MikePlaysYeet]

The fmc failure, was it that the fmc just froze and refused to work? Cause I’ve had that problem on xplane with the zibo

[@AviationPro]

It technically froze up :)

[@MikePlaysYeet]

AviationPro I guess it’s an actual failure then. I tend to get it when I choose a new rwy / star after I’ve already programmed the descend with speed restrictions and altitude restrictions.

[@geofferyshanen7758]

I have a quick question. Is it normal when I open Vatsim on my sim for it to keep me from using any button pushes or function of the sim? As soon as I minimize it then every thing works. But I am unable to see any text messages from ATC when it is minimized. Thanks in advance.

[@AviationPro]

I guess you mean the pilot client? Maybe when that is the active window certain buttons might not work. Try to run everything as administrator, otherwise Windows has a hard time making buttons work on programs that are not on the foreground.

[@eliacomo9891]

My worst flight was a complete engine failure 30 seconds after takeoff with an A332 at LOWI in X-Plane 11... I landed in a field with the minimum amount of hydraulics, but I wasn't able to stop and I went trough a neighborhood...

[@AviationPro]

How did that happen? :P

[@eliacomo9891]

@@AviationPro Uhmmmmm I bought the aircraft the day before and I didn't understand that with that plane you can't use the default fuel loader but a plugin I basically ran out of fuel 😂 What a good pilot I am... Btw I wasn't on Vatsim so there weren't traffic problems

[@bertoverweel6588]

Landed thursday at EBLG without ILS in low visibility , almost mist the rwy . I had the right ILS Freq. but ILS din't work .

[@AviationPro]

In that case you might want to go-around and prepare for another type of approach :)

[@airlinetransportationtycoo5252]

@AviationPro How do we contact you in regards to doing a beta test or a review for our game?

[@AQWorldsRay]

My worst flight involves being on short final after 16 hours of flying and crashing to desktop with no autosave.

[@branimirfilovski8388]

Program PIN error also happen to me on approach in EHAM on a flight LJLJ-EHAM but I recovered my FMC. I don't remember what I did but as I remember (not sure) I set STANDBY POWER to OFF and back to AUTO/ON. This also helped on old versions of PMDG 737 for FSX if my FMC had frozen.

[@AviationPro]

Good tip, I guess that works indeed, will try something like that next time so I don't have to divert :P

[@craigers37]

My worst flight was when my nav data was from 2011 and the controller cleared me for a an approach with a different name and I told him I didn’t have that so he told me to go down to 3000ft and stay at a heading of 360 and then he left.

[@AviationPro]

Aww.... ;)

[@casocaptain5493]

I experienced a PROGRAM PIN ERROR too on the NGX.

[@catcrafteryt5935]

What would be the best route for a beginner? Like, I am just starting off and I want to know where is not that busy (but short)?? Also what are the best addons that really enhances the experience? BTW, I love your content. Keep it up.

[@AviationPro]

Watch my tutorial series! ✈️🌎 VATSIM Tutorial Pack 2017 🌎✈️ kzbin.info/aero/PLtO_n5SzuAadbW1hjV59Ebm6s9APfWsZM

[@ioannismazonakis3055]

In my opinion the best route is EGKK-EGCC in england but there is quite a lot of traffic over there, that's the flight i learned and because of the traffic i got nore familiar with the terminology

[@catcrafteryt5935]

@@ioannismazonakis3055 Yeah. I've flew offline on ProjectFly a bit from EGKK>EGPH and EGPH>EGFF but just thinking the best for vatsim now.

[@mikelf4086]

Are you gonna fly the vatsim event EHAM-EDDF?? Lover youre vids❤️

[@AviationPro]

Nope! Thanks!

[@swapnilkapadia]

You could have used Grid Mora on Navigraph map to check the minimum safe altitude.

[@AviationPro]

That's the problem, I didn't have Navigraph yet.

[@swapnilkapadia]

AviationPro ah alright

[@vincehoffman2734]

I once had a flight that was fun but my frames are very bad so I was on approach and then my frames started to get really nasty I thought ooh shit. But when I was about to land the frames were just the worst ever, because of those bad frames my landing was very bad...

[@AviationPro]

Yes the more frames the better, especially when landing!

[@jannisn454]

One Question, where did you got your Pilot Stripes? Keep it up!

[@AviationPro]

aviationmegastore.com :)

[@bannanachef1091]

I have a question what site do you use for SID ground charts exc.

[@AviationPro]

Navigraph ;)

[@RNPAR0.1]

You'll need to go Navigraph ( google it ) and you'll have to pay a monthly subscription to have access to all charts worldwide. In the real world charts are constantly changing ( sometimes there are major changes to charts, when new runways are built etc ) and Navigraph reflects all those changes with AIRAC cycle updates which match the real world AIRAC. Current AIRAC cycle is 1901. There are 13 cycle updates per year ... one cycle update every 28 days Some people prefer to google charts, but there is a high chance the charts you will see online for free are outdated. ATC on VATSIM use Navigraph charts, thats why its important to get your charts from Navigraph or any source ( like Aerosoft ) that has updated AIRAC cycles applied to all charts you may want to use. I made the mistake of flying on VATSIM with outdated charts and ATC chewed me out because he told me to use a departure procedure that my chart didn't have..That departure procedure was on the current real world cycle that I didn't have because of my outdated chart ( outdated by just 1 month ) Anyway, hope the long explanation gave you some insight.

[@pc44pilot94]

X plane is the way forward in my opinion after years of fsx... the colours, default scenery is amazing, and very stable... but each to their own...

[@andrewmartin9995]

How’s X-Plane 12 treating you? 😂😂

[@adamarzo559]

and 4 years later x plane is no where to be seen.

[@Noio_]

Even though there was no ATC, did you send a PAN-PAN message in order to get some help from other pilots flying around?

[@AviationPro]

No, there was no-one on UNICOM either.

[@Noio_]

@@AviationPro Then it was really a tough flight.

[@vladorradovanovic]

Hi, just to know, there is some problem with FMC in Tivat. I had same issue, FMC Pin Error for Tivat NDB. Sarajevo as divert airport is bad choice. Monutains around and fog is frequent in winter. Nice video. Interesting! ;)

[@AviationPro]

Yes, I think it's also related to the data. It happens sometimes at other airports as well when messing around with the approach legs. Luckily the weather at Sarajevo was just a few clouds at that time, but indeed the terrain was a bit challenging. Nevertheless, the views were nice :D

[@georgeward7124]

@AviationPro , When are you starting flight training? :)

[@AviationPro]

I'm still in the selection process, so not sure if and when! ;)

[@dann9208]

My worst flight was my 3rd flight on vatsim I didn’t know the Airport ground and i was using charts but the chart didn’t match to where i was and then when i arrived i was on short final when they told me to go around but I thought they said i was cleared for landing

[@AviationPro]

Oops!

[@FiFi03__]

Yay aviation pro uploaded

[@AviationPro]

Every Thursday and Saturday! :D

[@381delirius]

Atc made me do a terrain escape maneuver

[@phoenixfloof9799]

Could you do another Xplane flight with the newest zibo, newest Xplane and some custom scenery (there’s very good one for smaller airports and if you fly in the US then payware quality for big int airports by misterX)

[@AviationPro]

Yes I'm planning on doing that, there have been some great updates for the Zibo mod! :)

[@jaydenjn8006]

Can someone please explain why I just keep disconnecting randomly

[@panam4938]

Ima li ko sa ovih prostora?

[@jaimichu9914]

An interesting video could be how to divert with no fmc, would be very interesting! Thanks for sharing the story!

[@AviationPro]

Yes I'm considering making a video on something like that, you're welcome!

[@pedrovicnt_]

my worst flight on vatsim was Memphis-lax,the controller was a jerk

[@AviationPro]

Which, Mem or Lax?

[@bannanachef1091]

Keep it up i love ur vids

[@AviationPro]

Thanks!

[@CanadianTexaninLiguria]

So how did being on VATSIm make things WORSE (or not )? I was expecting controllers yelling at you calling you a Noob? Thats the burden of being a Captain - its you and only you that can make the tough decisions. But in the end is only a simulator. I was once in a ship simulator doing river pilotage (eyeball navigation) and I was set up to meet in a place that we avoid meeting at. I had the right of way (I was downbound) and the other ship (controlled by a technician) should have waited for me. He didn't and we met safely at a VERY narrow place in the river with tons of current. The instructor came in and yelled at me for meeting there. My answer - I had the right of way, you better go talk to the technician....he stormed out.

[@zhuolixie5922]

Avoid flying in airports close to Class B airspace I.e. KHHF/KADS without preparation and contact, else you will be roasted by ATC.

[@RyanTheHero3]

my worst flight was when i flew into a mountain at innsbruck

[@khalidfh]

Lets get one live stream,,,, summer is coming

[@pc44pilot94]

Have you swapped to x plane yet?

[@AviationPro]

Nope!

[@Chasem20]

Good video

[@AviationPro]

Thanks!

[@hrvojemaslin1348]

jebajga brate to ti je balkan

[@rahulmaurya3886]

Why the heck do we only have 11 likes???!!!!!

[@AviationPro]

Let's give some more then! ;)

[@rahulmaurya3886]

@@AviationPro Wish I could make out a way to cheat the youtube system and spam the like button to the moon and beyond!!! LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!!!!!!

[@hmk_944]

wesh i m french

[@AviationPro]

eh?