Avocet ATK worth the risk?

[@JohnSmith-bf3gi]

You make it look so easy,I struggle to even pick the 6 pins(let alone the trap pins)hardly any feedback from the pins or movement from the core when trying to tension it.very impressive picking skills bro.really appreciate these videos

[@harrybow4006]

Thanks for taking the time to share with us all mate 👍😁

[@mitchellw7118]

I am new to lockpocking and smithing and never knew about anti pulling mechanisms in locks!! Every time I think I am getting the hang of it I see something new.

[@GxAxV]

So much to learn all the time. I’m 13-14 years in and still something new every day pretty much.

[@mitchellw7118]

@@GxAxV what would you advise if I come across the above in a domestic environment? My understanding is if i encountered that lock first i would try to pick but if that fails use a pick gun, and then if that doesn't work use a plug puller. But looking at the above the only way seems to be picking is that right?

[@GxAxV]

@@mitchellw7118 most well established locksmiths never use plug pullers, we all buy them but never actually use them. With all these cylinders that can’t be pulled including the ATK and screws potentially breaking in the core and making life 10 times harder. Simply drilling the lock the normal way is safer and faster. With this lock and almost all others is pick gun 1st if it won’t go then hand picks then drill.

[@mitchellw7118]

@@GxAxV that's perfect thank you. I'm going to set up a mock frame and door in my garage and started fitting random locks to experiment with. It is so wierd as since I discovered it as a hobby nobody else sees what I do and thinks I'm crazy haha

[@GxAxV]

@@mitchellw7118 lol that’s the best way to do it mate, theory and videos are great to learn but best to get something in front of you and actually do it. If you enjoy it while you learn then you know it’s right for you.

[@diggerlenny4836]

Was given this lock as a beginner. Before realising what I was at I got stuck in those trap pins. Watching you're video to hope I can get out of it now😕

[@diggerlenny4836]

OK. So for fun picking purposes I can ignore the cam bit for now anyway, but I need to pick pins 2,4 and 6 to get me out of the first row of trap pins? And if I manage that, I need something to stop the next 3 pop into the lock as it turns around?? Interesting lock. Thanks for posting this and great job on it👍

[@captmidnite8142]

cheers Gav thanks for sharing.... just watched this again , nicely picked Gav , i wont be having a go one of them yet , ,,,

[@claytonpompeypickersomerse8205]

Brilliant video mate and some very valuable information 👍🏻✌🏻

[@bikkies]

Very interesting. I have a couple of these which I'm keeping with a load of other complex locks, staying safely out of reach until I feel my skills have advanced sufficiently for me to give them a try. I picked up a term in this video I've never come across before: "string method". Time for me to do some googling!

[@GxAxV]

Maybe I should have called it string theory 😂

[@chriscapune7873]

A wonderful lock and great picking! Very nice description of how to go about picking the trap pins and dealing with the cam!! Stay safe! 🐈🐾🐈👍🐈🐾👏😷

[@AC9DJ]

Thanks for sharing. Definitely not a pick for a relatively new picker like me.

[@JayKay-ht8rg]

Is the Yale Platinum a better safer lock? Which other one would you recommend please? For a homeowner like me, for home security. Thanks.

[@lockenthusiastlocken8990]

Brilliant. Great picking mate.

[@the_urbanphantom]

You mention the die grinder, if you were to overcome the standard pins and lockdown mode with this method where does that leave you regarding the trap pins will you still have those to deal with?

[@GxAxV]

Yes they will still come into play but grinder again sorts them

[@DerekMercerlocksmith]

Nice picking and well explained thank you

[@tonikelope]

In your opinion, would these trap pins be resistant to electric lock picking tools?

[@GxAxV]

No it is quite possible to use a pick gun on them successfully and would definitely be what I would try 1st 👍🏻

[@MissHappyKate]

Hi Gav, thanks very much. Can you please, please, please let me know as soon as possible which lock to buy. I'd really appreciate it.

[@GxAxV]

I can’t really tell you without assessing your door and property. If you have a big glass panel door then why spend lots on locks. Same goes for if your back door is pants. Most locksmiths will do a free quote for you and asses the property. Get someone over and by all means you can ask my opinion on what they recommend.

[@gilessparkes2699]

Great video as always, very detailed, keep safe

[@AbbeyLocksandSecurity]

Great video Gav, really helpful :-)

[@aaron6841]

Hey Gav what do you think is one of the best euro cylinders these days? All the best :)

[@FortressLocksmiths]

Brilliant video pal, I have not been unfortunate enough to come across one of these on a live job yet, and I do wonder what method I would use, I wonder if once you’ve picked the cam up whether it would be possible to plug spin past the trap pins? 🤔

[@gorkemalbayrak7693]

Well that is a good question man i would try that if i had this avocet atk :)

[@cocksure8430]

Watch him answer his own question on his own vid a year later😁👍

[@robertwhite936]

Nice one Gav. Just a thought not tried it myself but do you think it's possible once you have picked up the cam to plug spin it passed the trap pin's?

[@GxAxV]

No unfortunately not. That’s a question as old as trap pins themselves tho that everyone asks 😁 simply not enough time to pick up speed and a very high chance of damaging the lock.

[@robertwhite936]

@@GxAxV makes sense. Brent a few tap pin's in my time.

[@prawnk1ng]

So this being a difficult pick, is this a good lock for an the average home? Or what other euro cylinders would you recommend?

[@GxAxV]

No criminals ever pick locks to gain entry. Look into anti snap and drill protection.

[@ArthurTugwell]

Thanks for sharing. What did you mean by ‘it’s in the bible’ and the ‘string method’?

[@GxAxV]

The Don Of Pies nice name 😂 the bible is what the bottom part of the lock is called that houses the driver pins. The string method is a way to get past trap pins in other types of locks using string.

[@ArthurTugwell]

GxAxV thanks man, love the fact you reply to your fans! Remember me when you’re bigger than the lock pick lawyer please!

[@GxAxV]

The Don Of Pies 😂 that won’t be a thing but I will 😁👍🏻

[@VetalR]

👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍

[@markmenow2day]

what bit would you use in a die grinder ?, thanks.

[@GxAxV]

I wouldn’t lol

[@plug4uk696]

Excellent stuff but I must admit you totally lost me when you mentioned the string method, is this something us novices can get to know about or is it only for the professional of which I totally understand for security reasons but now I'm intrigued to know the meaning of it ;-)

[@GxAxV]

Plug4uk it is just a method to get past the trap pins but like you say it’s kind of a bypass so I won’t share. Maybe you can look it up tho.

[@plug4uk696]

@@GxAxV : Understood and no worries my friend, better to be safe than sorry especially on here with these sorts of things because we never know who's watching ;-)

[@danieljeffries8466]

Top Vid Gav

[@fireblaster9961]

To be fair, picking locks in a vice is 100% different from inside a door and not being able to see the cam and trap pins 🔥🔫

[@GxAxV]

It’s a little bit different but not much really I would say more like 20% harder tops depending on the position of the lock. I pick a lot more locks in doors every day than I do in the vice.