Avoid Splice Loops, Says Music Lawyer

[@DJPain1]

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[@clintmusic1]

Another thing that makes splice and other royalty-free loops tricky is in the way that we create deliverables. Most times we are asked for stems such as drum & bass, synths only, guitars only and sometimes individual stems. Once it’s in the TV/film editor’s hands, they may decide to use just an individual stem for the placement and naturally will credit us as the writer, but if that stem ends up being a splice sample, we are then in violation of the EULA. A lot of production music libraries are now also putting in their agreement with composers that we must own 100% of the music we send them to avoid all of these issues so we basically just decide to stay away from them all together even though they are technically legal to use in sync. Also, thank ya’ll for your perspective on this clip! 🙏🏾

[@DJPain1]

@@clintmusic1 we’re not necessarily violating the Eula by delivering stems. Watch my convo with Krystal (top music attorney) and she touches on the ambiguity of this stipulation. Has there been a case of Splice or a Splice vendor taking legal action against a producer who sent stems out that included their royalty free sample?

[@6stringbeats397]

I’ve been in the sync game for a few years and have gotten 100s of placements on TV and big blockbuster movies. The reason why I avoid Splice is because publishers don’t want to deal with the headaches of content ID problems etc. Even though it is legal, it still creates headaches for the publishing companies. So to avoid unnecessary headaches and to keep an up standing relationship with my publishers I just avoid Splice or any other pre made loops.

[@blakasmurf]

Ah yeah this was what I thought, if you're unlucky enough to use the loop in the exact way as someone else Content ID may not allow your track. I guess it's my luck I've always hated loops lol!

[@6stringbeats397]

@@blakasmurf yeah I actually do love some of the loops myself and Splice really does have some great sounding loops but I just can’t risk using them.

[@blakasmurf]

@@6stringbeats397 Yeah some of the loops are great. But if I don't rework them somehow, they always feel like someone elses, I need to impart my own sonic signature on things to really feel it.

[@KSS184]

How about drums / percussion / oneshots?

[@TheSoundLegend]

This is why I make all my beats from scratch. No loops or samples. Makes my life easier as a producer

[@TheNoticer12]

I make trailer music for a living and its not just splice. Our publishers are pretty upfront they want nothing from us with any pre baked melodic loop from anything at all.

[@blakasmurf]

I would have thought it's due to the fact that it would cause issues fingerprinting for Content ID systems. I.e. if a loop is already fingerprinted it will cause issues trying to finger print it again.

[@nuh-uhbro765]

This is why I see melody loops as training wheels that are best taken off eventually. I use loops more like reference tracks to give me ideas for sound selection sometimes. If a really cool loop uses a dark piano and a flute, just find your own dark piano and flute and start cooking.

[@TheNoticer12]

@@blakasmurf that and also they want to negate any potential claim. They know it's "legal" but to go through the legal process is a hassle they don't want to take on. So no melodic loops at all and if you use a percussive loop it better be within other percussive elements, and even that is a grey territory.

[@thevoicewithin1544]

​@@nuh-uhbro765same with me

[@KSS184]

How about drum loops / percussion / one shots?

[@Bthelick]

We've never had a problem with splice and syncs, but like you say it's a trust thing and it's a small world. We catalogue every sample source and declare every single one so we're known to be organized.

[@gauche9999]

I've been doing ad music for a bit and they do just want it to be your stuff when syncing. nobody making an ad or short video wants do the copyright tracking down stuff. good video.

[@johnwatkins1944]

If you take a sounds/loop from splice and starter adding your effects chain and/or chop it up and rearrange the sequence, you won't have a problem. I haven't had any placement issues at least and I've been using it since 2018

[@youceethrillz]

Will pitching up or down help

[@thelattelawyer]

@DJPain1 Thanks so much for discussing my words with Ryan and the Music Entrepreneur Club, and for sharing your concerns about what I said on remakes. For context-and in line with the rule of completeness (an evidentiary rule that suggests evidence should be considered in full)-I wanted to clarify what wasn’t included in that short clip from my talk on the Shades of Sync panel. While it’s true that Splice’s terms define "Splice Sounds" broadly, during the panel, I was specifically referring to non-copyrightable elements like chords, chord progressions, and drum patterns. I also explained that remakes of loops and samples are generally okay if they’re transformed enough to meet fair use standards in court. I only provide advice to clients, but I stand by this. In fact, in this video, you mentioned that in the scenario you discussed, the legal team you worked with had you rework music to reduce infringement risks-a great example of why transformative use matters so much. I know the internet will have opinions, but as someone who said these words, loves and works in entertainment law, and wants my words evaluated in full, I thought it was important to respond here. Thanks again for opening up this important discussion and for Ryan's great takes on Splice and other music libraries in terms of sync.

[@Ogstevetheproducer]

This was definitely good gems 💎 and I love how you clearified how to properly be prepared with any splice samples by downloading the license agreement just in case it ever came down to you providing legal clearance.

[@RLBSOUND]

This is a very interesting conversation. I’m glad you guys having this conversation. Thank you so much.

[@PetrolMediaInc]

I work with several publishers for sync licensing placements. The real issue with that is they can’t track who has ownership of the loop and whenever things finally get placed a lot of times people come out the woodwork claiming that they have a share of this loop and start demanding numbers that don’t make any sense so publishers and placement houses don’t want anything to do with any of that unless they know 100% you have ownership of the piece of music, or you have everyone involved listed before you submit the piece of music

[@cdk]

when it comes to royalty free samples its not about who uses it, its about who publishes it first. Their distributers will gladly claim other peoples work once its published. effectively shutting the door for others to use that specific loop or sample without some type of claim or battle.

[@JayfkProductions876]

A lawyer just casually telling ppl u can (Remake) the Splice loops seems like one hell of a red flag..

[@DJPain1]

@@JayfkProductions876 the clip was taken out of context- I’ve spoken to her since

[@theopinions47]

This is why I have started moving away from samples.

[@diefreemediagroup]

I know yall each got your own things going on in life but I love when yall link up 😂.

[@DJPain1]

@@diefreemediagroup every week!! 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@migzart1434]

I agree with Pain on this. I can see from a sync perspective how they would want to limit liability on their end. I can also see that if a producer does their due diligence and is organized enough, all parties could be happy (win/win). It sounds as if it comes down to clear and effective communication, preparation and organization.

[@disciplethepoet]

I got flagged for copyright using a splice loop that someone already used. Smh

[@Sputz3]

Stop going to “Top used loops” and find something unique to use.

[@GoldieBadBoy]

@@Sputz3 lol but true

[@omgjamesbeats]

i mean if someone already used that should tell you it has a higher chance of being copyrighted

[@disciplethepoet]

@Sputz3 i wasn't in top used loops and the person who already used it had like barely any plays. KZbin told me the song that already used it

[@theend9494]

I used a sample from a library I bought, I uploaded a track to KZbin, using just 1 sample 4 bars long, very insignificant, KZbin warned me I was using a copyrighted piece of music at 1 min 30 secs whatever, I thought WTF, I found out later this sample library was now on splice I was so annoyed

[@SyncsationalMusic]

In the sync world it can cause a problem with the end user/client. If you use a melodic loop on a track and say the NBA picks it up. They post a clip on KZbin and possibly get a copyright claim on it because an artist used the same loop...that's a MAJOR problem for the network, the music library they got the music from, and the composer. It's all bad!

it's more of a content ID issue than anything else just like pain mentioned in the video.

[@Retrodbryant]

Great video! And thank you for clearing up the legal concerns. I agree that every music supervisor and Sync agent doesn’t have the same stance on Splice and none that I’ve worked with have asked me about it. She may be speaking from her experiences but it’s not absolute.

[@QueMusiQ]

Legally speaking,as someone who both has made beats, gotten (tiny laughable but very real) placements while also being an attorney, I’ll speak based on my opinion but not in the capacity of being a music lawyer. I do employment law now, but I’m kind of monstrous on the beats. Who isn’t, right? 😂 I was a lawyer first. Did my jd dissertation or thesis whatever research on this sort of thing. Then went down the autism rabbit hole for decades in hip hop. Emceeing (BlackSoultan) BBoying (was a cast member on soul train for years) and production (ΩueMusiΩ). But my chosen academic background DID MAKE ME LEERY OF SAMPLING EVER. I mean, I DO sample. For FUN. But because I’m literally trained as a lawyer, I never EVER want to try and get a beat placed with a sample. Lawyers are a lot of things. Scheming. Sneaky. Professional narcissists (I went to law school because as an entertainer, I knew not to trust lawyers, so I learned what they learned.) But specific to our purposes here, we are trained and paid specifically to WORRY. We are used either front end to brainstorm what COULD be legally actionable so as to help the client avoid those risks, or back end to navigate mitigating the consequences of a client who’s already made mistakes. As a young LA 20-something who knew a lot of producers who became extremely successful, I was gobsmacked at the fake law they would rely on. “If you recreate the sample, you’re good!” Nope. Wrong af. “I mean, I flipped it. Won’t nobody care.” Wrong. If you’re caught, YOU will care. TRUST ME. “I mailed it to myself tho.” WHAT? Come here right qui 🤜🏾 💥 But the indie/underground scene would just do things like the aforementioned. Or they’d put “for promotional use only” on the artwork, “give” you they album, then “ask you” for a $5-10 donation. The album be fire, but every beat had samples, and from guys who today 25 years later are known and have been known worldwide. But the fame changed. No longer is it a bunch of interns checking to see if you have samples in your beat. It’s been algorithmic for over a decade, and the algorithms are improving so exponentially, it’s not gonna matter that you “recreated” the loop. THAT YOUNG ATTORNEY IS WRONG. Your recreated loop will still be melodically similar to the loop it’s based on. If the loop itself would be flagged, so would any recreation. So that trick we all know about of converting audio to midi and changing the instruments via vst to then play that same melody? You really aren’t avoiding the bulk of the frustration you’re trying to avoid. Interpolation (recreating the notation with other sounds, or covering a protected work) will still cost you back end. If you want to place a track with a jumpy label or music director, they will be leery of this recreation too. This time not for PERMISSION to distribute, but for the backend cost for doing so. Instead? Like, if it’s a piano riff and you’re like “ooh, that’s a FIRE idea!” Great. Pull the notes in midi, grab Alicia’s keys or keyscape or whatever you have, then use a scale locked randomizer. You got the same “wybe” as my 🇧🇸 people dem say, but it isn’t a sample, it isn’t a reproduction, they have no claims. It’s basically making a “type beat” of the SAMPLE, then sampling THAT in the song. You can keep the vibe, even the exact swing, but alter the pattern significantly.

[@Illanesmusiccl]

fl studio chord generator changed the game, + there are so many tools to help you create original loops.. there really shouldn’t be an excuse to use loops unless you reimagine them or simply use them for no profit

[@mikeslickmix8840]

FL Studio is actually 6 yrs late in the chord generation game🙄🤦🏾‍♂️ but I get your point. It’s really easy to create your own original loops nowadays

[@alexinthemiddle]

Hiphop was never made for ad placements. That’s what messed up the game. If you’re an artist for the money limit your risk of course but if you’re working for the people who consume it, don’t stress the art.

[@EchoSlim]

Shoutout to Somara. She knows what she's talking about. She's always researching and up to date on everything regarding music law

[@SoupTubeTV]

I make hip hop and I sample music..no matter what it is, that’s the essence of hip hop

[@chrisb6296]

people sampled at the beginning as well as writing original composition e.g. "the message"

[@VigoBeatz]

Thank you @DJ Pain 1 for posting this. 🔥🔥

[@TheJyagerShow]

One thing i found a bit strange is when they said “just replay it” and not use the splice sample. This is still an infringement on the writer composition. It’s not like they advised replaying the sample and changing it slightly like how interpolations are done.

[@migzart1434]

What about one shots from splice? Are those okay for sync?

[@prod.bycheese]

That whole part about sync no sync is already in BeatStars don’t you just buy the higher tier? Exclusive even?

[@DJPain1]

@@prod.bycheese sync licenses should always be separate. Don’t talk yourself out of money man

[@AthensTheOfficial]

Isn't the upload of that sample to a site like splice, a legal surrender of their opinions on how you use the sample?

[@junglejackbeats]

Would you think that using Arcade samples would apply the say way for placements? im getting a understanding that they would want 1000% organic creativity, but you kind of have to know what they are looking for?

[@DJPain1]

@@junglejackbeats loops are loops

[@mindovermuzic]

Just why i love creating stuff from scratch. Never trusted samples period..AT ALL. Im creative enough to come up with my own samples

[@RiserOfficial]

Yep, definitely. If you found a splice loop that inspires you then way better to remake it and change it slightly just to make it your own. If it's vocal or melodic especially.

[@7thangelz]

What about Kontakt libraries?

[@tinyhambeats]

Do Serum presets and one shots count as splice samples? Should those be considered as something that needs to be disclosed? Or is the concern more for splice loops?

[@clubtonberry]

Aside from HiHat loops, I don't think I've ever used a Splice Loop. I mainly get one shot drums, synths and serum patches from there. It's interesting to see this, especially considering I am a lawyer myself (dealing with personal injury and banking, so copyright and music law are not my wheelhouse at all).

[@kayetroniczentertaimentmus7048]

After not wanting to get ripped off by local producers …some would even try to hold you back or worse if you had potential …. I spent finances on construction kits …only to realize “this grey area” of use (even after talking to some creators & distributor of sample packs) … They Really wasn’t creating to make songs ….but to get over & take advantage of those who wasn’t intelligent enough to read between the lines …. But this has taught me how to mix & master (two processes) & make a beat of my own …chop, manipulate it, blah blah blah … The underground “industry” so deceitful & petty that …. If I made a song from a sample pack I “leased” from 5 years ago & haven’t heard em yet ….in songs or movies , etc ….bet it’ll all of a sudden become a problem … The outcome : A lot of broke rappers that didn’t make it & a lot of 🔥 🔥 🔥 beats in the graveyard…..but you can still play em, stream em though … Executives don’t wanna fool with em though ….(toooooo much confusion)

[@RapNerdRadio]

Keep it all on the same channel! Music and music tech, just put all the tech vids in one playlist.

[@stacksbeatzinstrumental]

This why everyone should make beats from scratch you can avoid all these problems just from doing that

[@osmanhalifa7348]

What if you change the key of the sample. Was just thinking for example, Michael Jackson's human nature, Teddy Riley sampled it for Swv, I heard a Nas song and Queen Latifah song with the same sample, also Chris Brown. Why those songs don't get flagged for content ID violations.

[@DJPain1]

@@osmanhalifa7348 because they cleared the samples

[@804EBEATS]

I like splice because it keeps me creative however if I'm chasing big fish then I would have second thoughts. I've seen tracklib samples on splice

[@officialhardnox]

Splice needs to have an option for a buyout of loops. For example, if we put a melodic loop from splice in one of our beats and we are like “holy F this is INSANE!” We would probably buy the rights to own that Melodic loop so NO ONE else can have/download it. More and more sounds will get uploaded every day. So there’s always gonna be plenty of sounds. Similar to leasing or buying exclusive beats. Are we right on this?

[@DJPain1]

@@officialhardnox I’d say no, this wouldn’t make any sense

[@officialhardnox]

@ then do you see companies like Splice sticking around or going out of business?

[@jamesdavis7017]

If the person hiring you has a clause in the contract that says that any music you provide shall not contain loop derived from a third party and your submission has a splice loop, you should be very concerned about what happens if they find out. It matters if its is legal, but it matters more if the person who is paying you can sue you for breach of contract with their own terms and conditions that you violate.

[@KurvoMadeIt]

I’m currently go through this right now. Someone used one of my beats and lied about leasing it and it got sync and it got played a few times.

[@Bthelick]

So the reason they don't like using splice has got nothing to do with splice, but sampling in general, and people not being organized cataloging their sample sources. Gotcha.

[@DJPain1]

@@Bthelick seems unfair to splice

[@djkt1024]

🤣🤣🤣 I think it’s funny cuz I know big artists use some splice samples so I call bullshit

[@ImMetalMechanika]

Right? Plenty of tracks out there that use splice loops 😂

[@allwayzactive4599]

Use your head bro if you use the same sample as me and my prs tells me i wont even tell you i will just wait for you to make the bag and then collect

[@djkt1024]

@@allwayzactive4599 I barley use loops but most big time arists use loops all the time and even then I wont pay dime so

[@djkt1024]

@@allwayzactive4599 plus I dont need a label or placements I can be my own boss

[@BakariYahmoor]

Yeah it probably just depends on the situation Tee Grizleys Robbery 7 is a splice loop because I’ve heard that loop before

[@DJPain1]

Tons of hit songs are splice loops

[@BakariYahmoor]

@@DJPain1 Yeah word I love splice still gonna use

[@PBen1]

Good video! Don't know if you saw this news yet, but apparently Universal Music just announced they're partnering with an "ethical AI company" to make a music generator - "Universal Music Group announced a new deal centered on creating an “ethical” foundational model for AI music generation. It’s partnered with a company called Klay Vision that’s creating a “Large Music Model” named KLayMM and plans to launch out of stealth mode with a product within months." So you were right about the labels not wanting to get rid of AI, but actually make their own AI models and maybe subsume places like Suno and Udio.

[@DJPain1]

🎯

[@theorize999]

Hey dude I hope you see this comment, I think you might have some experience with this, I’ve been sampling an old yamaha drum machine (RY-10) and want to release them as a pack with some other drums I’ve synthesized or sampled or a hybrid of both, I don’t think sampling a musical instrument is illegal (it’s not like I ripped the samples from the ROM) but the way things are now 8km not sure they won’t try to sue me anyway, any thoughts?

[@johnathanbeats]

Im not against loops as long as the terms are met. It is also rare for me to use a loop.

[@smytheplays]

What was the video title about the loopmaker/Future?

[@DJPain1]

@@smytheplays no video, just a post on producer culture’s instagram

[@djerikfox]

..so i guess its much better if you use AI suno or udio to get the idea and re record that beat...there wont be any problem with copyright..??

[@DJPain1]

@@djerikfox I have no idea, I don’t think anybody has a clear answer

[@Rastetah8472]

I heard about this! So I do not use samples at th I s point, unless that artist is with me on the song.

[@djvlive305]

Great video!

[@yglegacy100]

To simplify what there saying is you can use splice but…BUTT when you do the person,people who really created that loop sample or whatever you used may not clear it that’s where the problems come from

[@michaelwashington9388]

So essentially all of these new sample libraries like loopcloud and traklib are essentially no good for making tracks for sync unless you’re remaking the melody?

[@DJPain1]

@@michaelwashington9388 that’s not what I’m saying at all

[@Scabadart]

Let’s say I like a splice loop, it’s some chords and melody. Drag it into midi in ableton and re make it with another patch. Then release that track. Since I would already have the license to that sample from splice, am I chilling ?

[@DJPain1]

@@Scabadart no, i don’t believe so at all, but read the terms.

[@Scabadart]

@ that’s interesting, I wouldn’t have expected an issue. Does that mean you lose the right to a splice loop if you modify it ? That’s what I’d be doing in essence. I’ll have to do some good reading because that just presents me with lots more questions. Splice terms sections 3.1.1.1 and 3.1.1.2 - I think that as long as you are using your recreated sample inside your own new recording and not trying to sell the recreation specifically then you are ok. You would have no rights to the recreation beyond as described by splice for the original sound.

[@DJPain1]

@@Scabadart Right, you're still using Splice's intellectual property, so this wouldn't be a solution if you're working with an anti-splice music supervisor

[@Dannytentoes]

Makes alot of sense

[@WhatYouActuallyGet]

Hey Pain, if I have the completed beat but lost project files in a hard drive crash, will it be impossible to get a placement if I can't pinpoint each sound origin? (Even though everything was used with tweeked stock FL Studio sounds). Thanks bro

[@DJPain1]

@@WhatYouActuallyGet nothing is impossible, sometimes artists use the two tracks

[@WhatYouActuallyGet]

@DJPain1 Yeah, that's all I have is the two track. Already mixed and mastered. Other than being upfront that I don't have project files, what else can I do?

[@DJPain1]

@@WhatYouActuallyGet prevent this from happening in the future

[@RangeWilson]

Most important part is at the end. Getting sued for a successful placement is way worse than losing a placement. That lawyer is giving bad advice all the way around.

[@thelattelawyer]

@RangeWilson. Respectfully, not advice - this is information that I shared with producers at a sync conference, that I stand by. Second, you can remake a loop or sample if it is transformative enough to qualify as fair use to go to court - this was also discussed by DJ Pain in his response when he talked about having to redo the songs many times to try to make the song a strong contender for the fair use defense. Third, in my full discussion during the conference, I also stated that certain elements in Splice like chords, drum patterns, and chord progressions are not copyrightable. I think it's important when evaluating a person's words, you know what was fully discussed in the conversation, but you are entitled to your opinion.

[@theend9494]

if you have the sample licence in place you can't get sued, some idiot might try but will lose in court and have to pay costs

[@PlasJopexBeats]

What about Looperman? Your thoughts?

[@otaviobonenberger93]

same thing, probably

[@boknows8376]

Forgot all about looperman lol

[@billysaint4981]

That mustache is insane lmao

[@roqmarin]

Where’s the link to other channel

[@DJPain1]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pp7PiWlmfat0p6c

[@NeverRnB]

Can you make a video on Artist Connect

[@stay.in.school.]

im pretty sure bandlab is hq'd in shangai too....splice does legit own the sound factory in Hollywood, gold records since the 50s....

[@NicGoOnTheBeat]

What about one shots ?

[@JAYFORJAY]

What about arcade?

[@Locsta_Beats]

Same problems

[@pkizzlebeats]

I knew splice wasn’t like that 5 years ago…as far as remaking the loop, I guess, but at that point why even sample just make your own melody. I get remaking a sample as an interpolation, that’s understandable, but if it’s a simple 4 bar loop that’s not really complex, u might as well make your own melody, unless it makes that much of an impact in the song n u don’t feel like u can recreat that sound perfectly

[@fuquanbaby9346]

What about arcade? Can we use that?

[@DJPain1]

@@fuquanbaby9346 please watch the video and replace the word ‘splice’ with ‘arcade’

[@EternalRecurrence88]

I avoid using samples like the plague. Even if i believe everything is cleared, idk what kind of petty stuff might come up. Its a good thing samples are not part of my workflow so i don’t have to work around that.

[@mreugenealmighty]

I'm still going to use splice samples because, as he said, they have the PDF download files to prove the complete use of a sample. Just like tracklib, they have a clearance thing going on, too. Cause when I heard the video those two things I mentioned also came to mind too. So Im not afraid to use splice at all. And that video is misleading with that lady and too out of context too.

[@stevenswisher4339]

Is this strictly for loops or are we talking splice 1 shots?

[@godleefamily]

So from my understanding now, it’s OK for publishers to be lazy and not just submit the proper paperwork to complete the sink licensing. This really just sounds like it’s a easy way out.

[@DJPain1]

@@godleefamily … what?

[@diefreemediagroup]

From an artist, if I see “no sync” I’m hitting up the producer if I get or want a sync. If I don’t see if, I might take it and run with the money 🤷🏾‍♂️😅.

[@DJPain1]

@@diefreemediagroup as a producer, if an artist gets a sync and cuts me out, he will never work in sync again 🤷🏽 so it’s more dangerous for the artist tbh, definitely not something I’d want to see happen to a person

[@TrapMonopoly5970]

Can you sell splice beat to local artists

[@DJPain1]

you can do nearly whatever you want with them

[@bristyla]

@DJPain1 - 1 of the main problems is you identify as being a "person" /persona.. do you not realize there is a BIG difference between "legal" & "lawful"? when you use your strawman identity as a legal fiction..you open yourself upto the whole corrupt industry of lawyers,barristers & judges... who only took an oath to the BAR ..not we,the people. get clued up to this ^ m8.

[@thejudgejuror2547]

The music business in every sector is cooked!! RIP to the art of music

[@Ghost_Text]

The real bottleneck then is naturally sung vocal samples. Everything else can redone through VSTs, one shots, synthesis or recorded instruments on the piano roll. But unless you got the voice yourself or reliable people to provide....

[@Ghost_Text]

@DonJohnson-y1v As far as sync risk aversion and avoiding content ID flagging, I imagine theyre gonna wait on the result of those cases against Udio & Suno. Till then, depends on where the training material came from.

[@reedy8585]

what she's done saying you can remake the loop is bait people into working for free knowing full well the legal claim against them will succeed and the artist/producer will be left ripped off. It's a crued play from splice.

[@DJPain1]

@@reedy8585 the lawyer left a comment here and that is in fact not her intention

[@reedy8585]

@@DJPain1 the product is not always the desired result of the intention. It is what it is.

[@DJPain1]

@@reedy8585 in her defense the clip was taken out of context, and I feel for her given that she didn’t edit the clip herself

[@CONSAPO77]

日本ではサンプリング文化がまだ根付いてません。 他のアーティストと使用するサンプルが同じ場合 後発のアーティストはリスナーに盗作だと非難されます。

[@DJPain1]

This happens in America

[@thatboimarco9351]

whats the big deal with the future song whos the prod im not up to date with the prod community

[@michaeldaniels8818]

so have I

[@youngscott1074]

the whole story in short is avoid using splice samples make your own composition

[@camdatboi]

Ppl are copyrighting compositions??? How is that even a thing

[@DJPain1]

@@camdatboi … 🤦🏽

[@theend9494]

You still have to copywrite the song, but the sample should not be included, it's a production thing.

[@unknwngamer1]

moral of the story: learn to make your own melodies n u'll never have to be in this situation

[@DJPain1]

*learn to play multiple instruments, including having the means to record them all, learn to mix them, invest in 10s of thousands of dollars in equipment such as bass and guitar amps, mics for stringed instruments and woodwinds etc.... Or just use loops as needed.

[@JaguarPanda]

@@DJPain1 you might as well save a bunch of money by using kontak libraries instead of real instruments

[@theonejet]

@@DJPain1no need to do all that extra stuff

[@prodbyryshy]

Tbh

[@DJPain1]

@@JaguarPanda they’re not the same but ok we disagree

[@chrisb6296]

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[@LPphotographyLP]

One of sabrina carpenters hits was using one sample pack from splice, they didn’t even change it, just dropped the samples into a DAW. It’s the most lazy, uncreative way to make a song using Splice and somehow it made No.1 or whatever. Crazy 😂

[@DJPain1]

@@LPphotographyLP it’s almost as though… nobody gives a fuck if you use splice or not if the music is good 🤔

[@Mean_O983]

How about track lip ??

[@DJPain1]

@@Mean_O983 track lip is a serious medical condition that should only be diagnosed by medical professionals

[@jawn.anderson]

Tracklib samples show details when you download - some songs will show “not for sync”. Depends on the song

[@donniehall0829]

@@DJPain1 🤣😂😭 made my day 👍🏾

[@LowGainElectronics]

What new channel?

[@dexlex8499]

exactly!

[@dooshnukem32]

The vid from the other channel is linked in the description

[@solowolfbeatsuk]

So we pay £12.99 a MONTH to use Mickey Mouse sounds? I only use it for vocals but if it’s legal make sure you document it all and keep track of what loops your using. Splice need to let you download a license with every sound

[@MRB-dg1fr]

I use Splice samples all the time. Just can't tell because i hide the sample. Easy as that

[@DJPain1]

@@MRB-dg1fr but you can’t just lie to a synch company about it though

[@MRB-dg1fr]

@DJPain1 understand... that was a low key way to get someone to critique my first two tracks on here as well. To see if someone A- liked the track and B- could spot the samples. At least I'm honest. Great video btw.. didn't expect a response. Gave a like and subscribed

[@davidwashington9623]

That's crazy cuz I use Splice all the time and I hear Splice samples on TV and Radio all the time.

[@DJPain1]

they're being used EVERYWHERE

[@davidwashington9623]

@DJPain1 💯

[@AntoineLyles]

I dont even you use spice I go to the music store like Jermaine dupri say. And make my own loops and sounds

[@MistaTr3ff11]

Ion use splice loops I dig through records for my samples

[@reed5823]

Idc. I use splice

[@Cfeldersproduction007]

🤔

[@TrapMonopoly5970]

I use looperman at least you can choo it up with the person who made the loops and get them cleared

[@DJPain1]

@@TrapMonopoly5970 unless that person is a thief

[@solowolfbeatsuk]

If you use splice make the loop UNRECOGNISABLE 😂

[@Taneracikgoz]

Loopcloud making a video about splice loops. Smear campaign 😂One sample from splice and hundreds of producers and dj's using that sample in their own songs. Still you want a placement? 😂

[@DJPain1]

wat

[@StreetCars101Magazine]

I run a TV show and completely stay away from loops of all kinds. Tv is a different ball game and eventually social media is going to do the same once producers and artists start demanding more

[@DJPain1]

@@StreetCars101Magazine demanding more what?

[@StreetCars101Magazine]

@DJPain1 royalties. This streaming service stuff is going to come to an end from the small payments artists get from their music being played but you have companies like Spotify making billions. As a once upon a time and producer myself, I believe the mp3 era or at least artist selling their music on their own websites again