Avoid THIS Lexus Model | Pre Purchase Inspection REQUIRED for this one and Here's Why.

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The Car Care Nut

The Car Care Nut

Күн бұрын

A Toyota Master Diagnostic Technician Speaks about a Lexus Model You Should Avoid Buying Without a Proper Pre-Purchase Inspection
Folks Avoid This Lexus Model. The Lexus LS460 without knowing what you're going into and doing your homework.
People often regard Lexus as one of the most reliable luxury brands out there and most of the time that is the case. However the LS is in a class of it's own. Very sophisticated and aimed to rival the german offerings.
And because of that things are usually very complicated with the Lexus LS460. Buy one that is in good condition and continue to take care of it and you will have a very reliable and pleasant experience.
However if you buy one that's been neglected or simply never had it's issued fixed and they piled up and you are in for a typical neglected german car experience of mechanically totaling itself.
The Lexus LS460 is a drop from the reliability of the LS400 and LS430 but it can still be relatively reliable with good maintenance and care.
Things will always be expensive with the Lexus LS even the LS400 and LS430. The car we're looking at in this video is a 2008 Lexus LS460 which had it's front suspension and the air suspension fall apart costing thousands of dollars to repair. Be careful when buying one.
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0:00 Intro
0:46 Suspension Issues
3:47 Under Car Inspection
5:02 Damaged Parts
12:15 How About The Rest Of The Car?
18:55 And Things Really Can Go South....

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@rockbay79
@rockbay79 Жыл бұрын
Sir, I was a Federal OSHA Inspector from 1982 - 2002. I can tell you after viewing several of your videos that you maintain a degree of perfection, I've seldom seen! One could honestly eat off the floors of your shop. You always wear proper PPE and immediately clean up small spills. You also collect and label your waste fluids. I'll even bet you have a nice file for your MSDS records for working with chemicals. All I'm attempting to say is: Well, Done! I'm impressed!
@jamesriley4857
@jamesriley4857 Жыл бұрын
Don't confuse a television studio with an automotive repair shop
@resistftl
@resistftl Жыл бұрын
MSDS has changed to just SDS.
@johnsee7269
@johnsee7269 Жыл бұрын
Me too! Scotty too!
@07wrxtr1
@07wrxtr1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I I have a curse: I notice stuff like that whenever I'm in/around a shop as a customer, or I'm just driving by and see the sea of vehicles they failed to repair/sell. I always think: "Well, if they don't care about their own property - what makes you think they'll care about my property?!"
@rockbay79
@rockbay79 Жыл бұрын
@@07wrxtr1 I agree.
@Boldstep001
@Boldstep001 Жыл бұрын
I own one with 208k miles on it. Yes, they can be expensive to maintain, but they rarely break down. These are some of the best cars ever made period. Great review.
@haveagoodone123
@haveagoodone123 Жыл бұрын
I love my ls460 L
@d1spoonky
@d1spoonky 5 ай бұрын
I am about to purchase a 2008 LS 460L LITERALLY over the next few days with 158,000 miles on it, is it WORTH it?
@MrTeddycozmik
@MrTeddycozmik 5 ай бұрын
​@@d1spoonky Yes. If you can afford new brakes, valve cover gaskets and plugs, ignition coils/ tune up. I've had mine for 4 years and bought it with 127k and have 172k miles. Best car I've ever owned or driven by far
@d1spoonky
@d1spoonky 5 ай бұрын
@@MrTeddycozmik Thanks, the dealer sold it from under me LITERALLY the night before I was to buy it (NOT mad though, its business), but there are others I'm considering...Thanks!
@samman4602
@samman4602 3 ай бұрын
@@d1spoonkyknock $6k off the price for inevitable suspension work
@bombero3368
@bombero3368 Жыл бұрын
My son wanted a higher end Lexus with all the bells and whistles. I informed him that all those extras mean headaches down the road, plus they take premium gas. He ended up with an ES350 - simpler but still has a nice interior. So far he’s been happy with it.
@kr9181
@kr9181 Жыл бұрын
Exactly you don’t need modern cars full of electronic crap and huge tables in them. So called outdated cars just works better and have less headache. If you want expensive modern car go and lease it.
@dyalanbrain001
@dyalanbrain001 Жыл бұрын
@@Motorsportsgeek have you even driven the es350? They are based on the Avalon btw.
@Motorsportsgeek
@Motorsportsgeek Жыл бұрын
@@dyalanbrain001 Avalon is a camry, not hating on it, Camry is the best selling car in the world for good reason but typically when you go Lexus, you want the rwd based that is more of a lexus and less of a toyota.
@worldhello1234
@worldhello1234 Жыл бұрын
We don't even have peasant fuel anymore across the pond. It doesn't hurt to use good fuel to have more power and a healthier engine. Unless it is a rather primitive design. 😊
@worldhello1234
@worldhello1234 Жыл бұрын
@@kr9181 The price of comfort is more electronics. 🤷‍♂ You can have even reliable electronics Japanese so called luxury cars of the 90s are prove for that, especially the Toyota Crown.
@normanfillmore3490
@normanfillmore3490 Жыл бұрын
My ‘08 460 has 190k miles, burns no oil, has no leaks, gets 27mpg real world at 75 mph. It’s honestly my favorite car I have ever owned, and yes I owned a LS430. Repairing the 460 is not a total nightmare, you can certainly do it yourself. When buying, yes, The car will reward you like a Lexus should. RWD non Air Ride, one owner with proper maintenance history is definitely recommended. But if you do find one that has been properly maintained, buy it, change oil every 5k miles, change brake fluid and coolant every two years. Will you need to keep an eye on the front end bushings? Yes, but the aftermarket parts are reasonable and the labor is easy.
@jayflip3756
@jayflip3756 Жыл бұрын
Best & most accurate on point response!!!! I’m a true enthusiast & own every model from an LS460 with 370k original miles, and every other model from the previous generations! The 460 does require a bit more love than some of the others but as you said they are not such a killer to the pocket especially if you’re going with a more base model without the air suspension and can do most the labor work yourself. In the end of it all, unless you have a brand new car out the dealer with warranty and owe your life to it, you’re going to have to put in money in any other used car you decide to get. But if I’m going to spend money on repairs/maintenance, I’m at least going to do it to a vehicle/vehicles that I have had the best experiences with as far as quality, reliability, comfort and longevity overall! There’s a reason Toyota/Lexus holds the most value in the used car market…. ✊🏽
@zaker600
@zaker600 Жыл бұрын
@@jayflip3756 Yessir. Btw did you say you have 370k miles on your LS460 sheeeeeesh. Would be interested to know what you've had to repair so far. I have 100k miles on mine (only had it for 2 years so far though) and I repaired the radiator and my air suspension and bushings are likely going to need replacing relatively soon. Surely, the LS burns oil at that mileage, holy cow 370k!
@zaker600
@zaker600 Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@jayflip3756
@jayflip3756 Жыл бұрын
@@zaker600 Yeah man I actually got the car with 270k miles from the original owner and I can honestly say it looks, runs and drives like a brand new car! Yes the control arm bushings were replaced as expected, I did have to replace the starter and I am getting a random transmission slip type of symptom from 3rd to 4th gear but I am going to get it further investigated as it’s very intermittent. The car drives phenomenal most of the time until it gives that issue, I have no problem spending $700 on another transmission but I like to get to the bottom root of the issue so I know what to look for and how to possibly avoid it in the future. I honestly think it has something to do with the transmission thermostat which most people aren’t aware that these transmissions have. In my opinion if it was a mechanical issue with the transmission itself, it would slip 100% of the time and not once in a blue. Nonetheless the car does have higher miles and it is more than deserving of a transmission swap if need be. I average 24mpg overall and I don’t burn much oil at all, perhaps a quart total within the 5000 miles. I truly love this car and honestly as an enthusiast that I am, I really don’t see myself getting rid of it unless maybe one day I find someone as passionate as I am and has the same appreciation as I do with the car. But that’s in the far future ha ha!
@christophermagee9079
@christophermagee9079 Жыл бұрын
@@jayflip3756 my transmission is doing the samething started about a month ago doesn't do it all thr time im at 195k miles it doesn't do it everyday if u find out the problem please let me know
@Reggaejames
@Reggaejames Жыл бұрын
This is the type of channel that deserves all the success it gets. The presenter comes across as a very knowledgeable but more importantly, caring person. I am so happy to see his new garage. You can tell he takes great pride in it. Best of luck to you.
@shaddavis2490
@shaddavis2490 Жыл бұрын
Wow how did Toyota screw up so bad?
@franciskowalski7367
@franciskowalski7367 2 ай бұрын
wish we had you in NJ.... Thanks for the video's, very informative.
@hayksamvelyan
@hayksamvelyan Жыл бұрын
Great video as always AMD. It's so refreshing to see a real mechanic show you the truth about these models from hands on experience. You can really see the the dollar amounts add up when you see it all broken down like that - that aluminum knuckle alone is around $500 per side..
@sleepyzzz_9198
@sleepyzzz_9198 9 ай бұрын
This is no cap!!!! I luckily came across a 2008 Lexus LS 600HL back in 2019 with 85k on it. I bought it in VA and luckily the dealer had to replace these parts before it would pass inspection before they could sell it to me. No wonder the dealer was freaking out over how much the repairs were going to cost!!!!! I guess I lucked up on this one!
@ositapeters211
@ositapeters211 Ай бұрын
Do you still have it? What's the maintence now like?
@combinedeffects4799
@combinedeffects4799 Жыл бұрын
He’s such a good teacher . One of the best - I love this guy.
@oishangui1
@oishangui1 Жыл бұрын
I love your honesty. I sense no bias in your message at all. Keep up the good work.
@m.newman7722
@m.newman7722 Жыл бұрын
My wife drove her 1998 LS400 for 19 years. Other than a mirror switch which broke,. after 18 years, just changed the oil and nothing else to fix. Replaced the LS 400 with a used low mileage 2014 LS460, and other than a rain sensor, replaced under warrantee, it has been 100% problem free. Regular oil and fluid changes, and it keeps on going without any problems what so over. I've had 6 different Lexus models, all problem free, other than routine wear, brake and tire replacements. What's not to love about Toyota/Lexus products? I'm now driving a 2020 RC350 F-sport. After 2 years, no problems. Southern California weather may help the longitivtiy, but does not change the almost complete lack of problems. So far, ultimately cheap to keep. Oh, my 1984 Supra's first brake job was at 96,000 miles. Talk about bullet proof, and I sold that vehicle in 1995 for a Lexus. Of course my opinion is, that these vehicles are very reliable, after their initial cost.
@connor3288
@connor3288 Жыл бұрын
Most cars should last a long time in the southwest. In new england rust kills cars way before their time, and makes it a pain to work on. Wheel bearings are a pain, calipers and brake/fuel lines rust out from the road salt spray.
@zedzedski7382
@zedzedski7382 Жыл бұрын
" just changed the oil and nothing else to fix" so tired of these delusional expressions. No car can last only on oil changes. You still have to replace, brakes, shocks, springs, belts and many other wear and tear parts as the mileage keeps growing. The question is: can you afford to maintain it?! Any car can last as long as you can afford to maintain it, which depends on your budget. So, reliability comes not from the car but from how reliable is your wallet.
@martinducre1821
@martinducre1821 Ай бұрын
Hey Car Care Nut, thank you very much for making a very informative video. I just replaced my front control arms to the cost of $2700 and my deductible was only $100. I bought an extended warranty to cover my expenses on my 2008 LS460. For those who are looking to buy this vehicle, buy the extended warranty, and listen to this guy... My warranty has paid for itself already. Keep up the good work 👏 🌷
@jpete3027666
@jpete3027666 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. This convinced me to go with a base model LS 460. Still a beautiful car. I didn’t want the headache of the air suspension.
@realestatenow
@realestatenow Жыл бұрын
I had a 1996 LS400. No air suspension. The quietest ride with a nakamichi sound system. The only repairs I had to do were the front suspension. The engine was a very quiet V8.
@MrRez86
@MrRez86 Жыл бұрын
Best LS made and the LS430 and love the GS too back then too!
@CarsofGlasgow
@CarsofGlasgow Жыл бұрын
ls 400 is great! I have a sc 430 and its so smooth and quiet
@realestatenow
@realestatenow Жыл бұрын
@@CarsofGlasgow 👍
@claudiadickerman4218
@claudiadickerman4218 6 ай бұрын
We have two Lexus cars. A 1993 LS400 we bought for $4000.00 three years ago in California, a one owner, always garaged, good maintenance records. Under 80K miles! Still have it, the only problems are with the 'bells and whistles" some of which I don't bother to fix as they don't present any real problems to me. I also bought a 2007 LS460L, less than 70K, one owner, clean carfax, always garaged in Florida, it is in pristine shape overall. I paid 28K for it. Have had problems already with sensor lights coming on, had some brake parts replaced, the interior is the one that turns to "putty" over time and unfortunately the owner never took it to Lexus for the no cost redo of the interior parts so there's that. At the moment I have to say I am already having buyers remorse as it isn't any "better" than my 93 LS 400 in most ways. I think I will sell it as soon as possible and keep the 93 and fix whatever may come with it, it will be a lot less expensive in the long run. Buyer the LS460L was an impulse buy, I should have done more research.
@realestatenow
@realestatenow 6 ай бұрын
@@claudiadickerman4218 yes, the ls460 can be more expensive to maintain.
@deebee3901
@deebee3901 Жыл бұрын
Very informative! Love your videos. Would never have thought there would be so many issues on an LS 460 - you have opened my eyes.
@rockbay79
@rockbay79 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see more Toyota Tacoma issues and maintenance videos! Thank you for all you do!
@lesevesel2898
@lesevesel2898 Жыл бұрын
I have an '18 GLE350 and your comment about checking the rear main for leaks is helpful because I want to catch these problems (or potential problems) at their smallest before they become so unbelievably costly. Man, I'm so glad I subbed your channel; already a real favorite.
@robertmaybeth3434
@robertmaybeth3434 Жыл бұрын
Friend if you find your rear/front main seals have a leak it's already bound to be costly, esp if you have it done. If you do it yourself, many times you can change those seals with the engine still in the car and possibly, even without removing the crankshaft.
@markwagner4909
@markwagner4909 Жыл бұрын
My boss had 4 LS’s driving them each over 150,000 miles each This one was abused and not cared for properly. Good thing the new owner found you!
@petervan7372
@petervan7372 Жыл бұрын
i bought a used LS, looks like previous owner didn't spend a penny on the maintenance. found a bollywood cd in the cd changer when cleaning it, when seeing the title the previous owner's name on it speaks for itself
@golfmaniac007
@golfmaniac007 Жыл бұрын
@@petervan7372 oh no....bollywood cd. 30k interval oil changes at jiffy lube for sho
@hitzoneproductions7858
@hitzoneproductions7858 2 ай бұрын
​@@golfmaniac007 You mean Bolly-Lube 😅
@JR1068
@JR1068 Жыл бұрын
This is why you need a Toyota Master Diagnostic Technician working on your car! Great videos AMD awesome work, thank you for all your videos and knowledge. GB
@richardorosso7377
@richardorosso7377 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! I've been considering a 460 and just came across your video, a great reality check for me! Will definitely be taking a closer look now before hitting the buy now button!
@BrockOhhhh
@BrockOhhhh Жыл бұрын
I remember watching auto repair shows on TNN when I was growing up. This channel is better than any of them.
@samgetward1218
@samgetward1218 Жыл бұрын
As an LS lover I have to disagree. The blue book value of a vehicle and the value to a person are very different. Say you spend $10K for the vehicle and another $6k in repairs there is not a vehicle that exist that will give you that level of driver experience for 16K(except maybe another used LS). So while some see a headache I see an incredible value.
@cdmsvt
@cdmsvt 9 ай бұрын
I spent 14k for mine and now I'm looking into replacing the control arms 😅 Was quoted 5k at the dealership. Hard pill to swallow but I can only imagine how better the car will feel!
@meenam300zx
@meenam300zx 9 ай бұрын
If you listen again at 16:90, he is telling you that you may feel you got a bargain, but things begin to become brittle and you may end up with one expense after another that by the time you realize, you will become like one of my employees that spent $14k on a used car he bought 2 years ago for $15k. Set the emotions aside and look at it logically. If your emotional, you can drive a unreliable, unsafe car that looks good or take all that money like my employee would have spent on a nice reliable newer car.
@abedawg94
@abedawg94 7 ай бұрын
@@cdmsvthow many miles?
@cdmsvt
@cdmsvt 7 ай бұрын
@@abedawg94 144k
@emiliog.4432
@emiliog.4432 Жыл бұрын
You are being kind describing that rotor groove. The pad was slicing the rotor off like a lathe. The mechanic that did that should go back to school. Thanks. You have an amazing shop. Congrats.
@anthonybanks4958
@anthonybanks4958 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir, I was considering buying a 2010 or 2011 LS460 BUT after watching your video & another, I'll keep maintaining my '03 ES300. The comments about the air shocks & that knuckle was the final straw. Thanks again for all the info & details, continued success & Blessings!!!
@billng6024
@billng6024 Жыл бұрын
Dear Presenter, you are fantastic and I enjoyed throughly with this video. Can tell that you are a very detailed professional and you earned much respects from most of the viewers. I had a same car , 2010 LS460 F Sport , rear wheel drive with air suspension. I am still the first owner of this car and odometer is 70K kilometer after 12 years of driving. I intend to keep it for another 10 years and I will take serious note of all these issues. I m very impressed of your presentation and your clarity of your good speaking and narration skill. I come from Singapore where the LS is situated. A small island country sits on equator . You take good care and would like to see you more often in Utube. Cheers.
@bobbyb.1743
@bobbyb.1743 Жыл бұрын
Have an’08 LS 460 since new. 140K w/ the usual maintenance, still love it, recently replaced the stereo and amp. Every time I think about replacing the car w/ something else, I come back to the point….w/ what? That V8 & transmission is glorious…I just can’t bring myself to get rid of it.
@ILOVEBACONBOY2018
@ILOVEBACONBOY2018 Жыл бұрын
Can learn a lot from these videos, thanks for the work that goes in to these videos!
@toma5153
@toma5153 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised those brake pads could be incorrectly installed and result in wear to the rotor hub. Thats seems to be contrary to lots of Toyota mistake-proofing designs (poke-a-yoke). Thinking back to pad replacements I've done on Camry's, Tercels and Subarus it would seem impossible to incorrectly mount the pads. Either the caliper design is flawed, or some knucklehead found a way. 🤕 Thanks for the fair warning on Lexus air suspensions. This type of video is invaluable.
@MaxPartridge146
@MaxPartridge146 Жыл бұрын
I've been watching your videos for about a week and have really gained a ton of knowledge about certain Toyota models. Two thumbs up!
@shonhartvigsen4698
@shonhartvigsen4698 Жыл бұрын
Need more honest and smart mechanics like this guy great videos
@kaafromoz
@kaafromoz Жыл бұрын
TY Sir as always super information and explained open and honestly, wow that front disc groove was scary bad so i am glad you showed us that and the owner is replacing them. Keep Safe Keep Strong My Dear Friend 🦘🦘🦘🦘🚗🚗🚗🚗
@p6102zrfxe
@p6102zrfxe Жыл бұрын
This video is good but last minutes make it excellent. We need more technicians like AMD. Thank you.
@lklpalka
@lklpalka 7 ай бұрын
I love watching your videos, so thorough in explanation and background reasoning. Watching this, I'm glad that I have no desire to own something this complicated but I DO enjoy sharing in your easy-share expertise! Fun.
@cardo1111
@cardo1111 Жыл бұрын
Your extensive knowledge and honesty is much appreciated 👍🏽
@KaiPonte
@KaiPonte Жыл бұрын
I need to get myself a LS460.
@Colin-cb8hv
@Colin-cb8hv Жыл бұрын
I wish I had a mechanic like you in my area. My area is full of mechanics like the one who did this brake job at the end of the video.
@paperandmedals8316
@paperandmedals8316 Жыл бұрын
Same. Mechanics in my area were ripping us off so bad I’ve actually committed myself to working on our own vehicles. Toyotas, BMW’s and Mercedes. Have saved thousands.
@ALBreezyx68
@ALBreezyx68 Жыл бұрын
@@paperandmedals8316 I agree also not to descriminate against middle eastern people I lived in Los Angeles for 35+ years and they always Rip me off and charges more than dealership 🤣🤣🤣 Armenian Russian 🤣 I really wish more mechanics are more honest and trained and cool temperated like you 🥂
@paperandmedals8316
@paperandmedals8316 Жыл бұрын
@@ALBreezyx68 I’m in Phoenix. My brother has a mechanic garage in NYC. I tell him the prices out here and Phoenix and they’re double that of NYC prices. How’s that even possible?
@peteyesco
@peteyesco Жыл бұрын
@@paperandmedals8316 supply and demand. More mechanics in NYC, if you find one too expensive, you’ll go to another one usually near by.
@torocars9227
@torocars9227 11 ай бұрын
@@paperandmedals8316Arizona is like a 3rd world state vs NYC. Most millionaires par square male lives there … mostly they all have modern cars and their used cars often shipped to car auction ending up in poor states brought by used car dealerships. There’s so much work for mechanics in your area and lower middle class people in your are can’t afford new vehicles therefore abundant of used cars giving mechanics luxury to charge high rate on labor.
@billman32
@billman32 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the video! I was thinking of buying a used LS. Now I know what to get inspected before purchase. I'll probably go a different route now.
@wernerdanler2742
@wernerdanler2742 Жыл бұрын
That brake job, unbelievable!
@serlaws
@serlaws Жыл бұрын
I had a swb 2008 LS460 with 19" wheels. Loved it!. It was rare non air suspension with reclining rear seats. I was able to swap out a lot of the parts myself. It was well behaved but I always feared the brake actuator failure. It was an automatic $3000 cost that only the dealer can repair. I ended up reluctantly selling it. 3 years later I heard from the owner and it has been problem free! 😭 I regret selling it & could have enjoyed a few more years of ownership. I ended up roughing it in a 2006 V6 Camry. The Camry has been extremely reliable and stress free it blends into the crowd . It's what I need in these "crazy times" !
@rockflock4698
@rockflock4698 Жыл бұрын
Wrong. A regular mechanic fixed mine. I got the part for $800 and charged me $500 to put it on and program it.
@JJ-rw2pj
@JJ-rw2pj Жыл бұрын
@@rockflock4698 b.s
@rockflock4698
@rockflock4698 Жыл бұрын
@@JJ-rw2pj facts
@kaisalis7895
@kaisalis7895 7 ай бұрын
Who told you only the dealer can repair it? Lemme guess, they did? 🤣
@topherd1011
@topherd1011 Жыл бұрын
I have stayed away from air suspension my entire life. I’m glad I’ve made that choice.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
It's seems just so unnecessary.
@zaker600
@zaker600 Жыл бұрын
I have an LS460 with air suspension and although its nice, springs are almost just as good without the headache lol.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Жыл бұрын
@@zaker600 This is why I find air suspension so dumb. There's a reason the Land Cruiser doesn't have them.
@blackcoffee730
@blackcoffee730 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating video! Thanks for this info. Don't own one, but love learning new things.
@markreynolds3850
@markreynolds3850 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this video, interesting and informative review of lexus air suspension.
@andybub45
@andybub45 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather had an 07 LS460, no suspension issues and no air suspension but it did burn oil. It was well maintained too.
@SocraticMind89
@SocraticMind89 Жыл бұрын
The owners manual even says the 460 burns roughly 1qt every 500 miles or so crazy!
@Jackson_Hts_Mr_Randy_Watson
@Jackson_Hts_Mr_Randy_Watson Жыл бұрын
I currently have a 2004 LS 430 as my daily driver. It has no leaks or issues of any kind. I've driven it for about 8 years now. I had cross shopped it with a 2007 LS 460 and I preferred the ride of the 430 by far. I sometimes look at a late model LS460 for an upgrade, but I am also considering an ES300H instead. I don't want headaches as I get older and the allure of driving the flagship has worn off. At this rate though, I don't see parting with the LS430 anytime soon. Maybe drive it a couple of more years? I have a feeling I'm really going to miss it once I move on.
@samwalton4598
@samwalton4598 Жыл бұрын
I was just looking at buying an 8 year old LS 460. I love the car and it is such a beautiful car but this gives me pause. Great video and thank you. I owned a couple of LS 400’s in the 90’s and loved them. Great cars! I traded them for Chevy and Ford SUV’s as my family was growing. Kids are out of college now and I am looking at easing into some luxury again. I am technical minded and you have provided me with excellent intel. I will look at the ES models as well. Have a great day!
@Andrew-rb4gs
@Andrew-rb4gs Жыл бұрын
I can tell by watching your body language,that you really love those car lifts. Much better than jack and stands from your older vids. Love the shop.
@stuartstein8062
@stuartstein8062 Жыл бұрын
I got a 2009 GS 350 rear wheel drive this thing does not burn a drop of oil runs like it's brand new with 135,000 mi on it. Pick your lexus's wisely
@MilesDeluxe
@MilesDeluxe Жыл бұрын
There is a revised part for the front lower rear control arms. I am strongly hoping for more detailed LS460/600 content like this. I love mine and here in germany they only came with "all bells and whistles". None were sold without softclose or the air suspension. The sales numbers here were really low (like 70 over ALL twelve LS F4 model years) so it is not easy to find someone that really knows this car inside and out. I would love to see a transmission fluid change on your channel, since this is the next thing that needs to be done on mine.
@kinglumpy6145
@kinglumpy6145 Жыл бұрын
2010+ has the revised LCA right?
@MilesDeluxe
@MilesDeluxe Жыл бұрын
@@kinglumpy6145 I am not 100% sure but i think so. It has the problematic mounting point reinforced.
@dermotwallace5533
@dermotwallace5533 Жыл бұрын
Once again, an amazing video tutorial. Thanks mate.
@jsdpe1200
@jsdpe1200 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing sir. God bless your craftsmanship.
@Chinunit22
@Chinunit22 Жыл бұрын
I ain't going to be surprised if this vehicle with high mileage had over 4 owners which couple of them just driven the car rough for couple years and just trade out if it.
@raymondcanessa7208
@raymondcanessa7208 Жыл бұрын
Leased and no Maintenace when new. SAD!!
@MiroBG359
@MiroBG359 Жыл бұрын
If they're leased you can pull up their maintenance record from Lexus
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto Жыл бұрын
I've meet a couple of people locally that have had issues with these models. They are amazing and the technology is awesome. As with anything else it'll break down and cause issues. Hopefully the new LS500 is better as an all around vehicle. (:
@timothyrobles8777
@timothyrobles8777 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining the expence of maintenance compared to the Avalon and Camry, good stuff.
@kennynguyen2105
@kennynguyen2105 Жыл бұрын
I owned 2016 LS460 swb without air suspension and I got rid of it after it has almost 100k miles. It's a different class and please don't compare it with the low end ES350 if you can't afforf it.
@dantheman070
@dantheman070 Жыл бұрын
I was considering buying one of these LS460 with 100k miles but you convinced me to steer clear of them, decided to go with an ES350 instead. Its not quite as advanced or luxurious but I would still drive it across country. It's a very nice car and super reliable.
@MiguelRPD
@MiguelRPD Жыл бұрын
I have one and it's been super reliable. Yeah the tech isn't good. But you could get a sony headunit from Crutchfield and replace the head unit to a modern Bluetooth android auto/apple carplay one.
@CarsofGlasgow
@CarsofGlasgow Жыл бұрын
why not get the GS?
@normanfillmore3490
@normanfillmore3490 Жыл бұрын
@@MiguelRPD Why do that? Just go with the Grom Audio V-line 2. It runs Android Auto/Apple CarPlay through the stock head unit and retains all factory functionality. I run it in my ‘08 LS and it works brilliantly.
@MiguelRPD
@MiguelRPD Жыл бұрын
@@normanfillmore3490 Oh I have the regular model. Not the ultra luxery version.
@dantheman070
@dantheman070 Жыл бұрын
@@CarsofGlasgow I mean yeah if I can find a GS350 with AWD I would go with one of those but they tend to be harder to find. I need either FWD or AWD because I live in mountainous terrain with bad weather (currently driving a RWD car).
@iracohen3864
@iracohen3864 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis of the issues, A warning to anyone who wants to buy a high end model Lexus BMW, AUDI MERCEDES etc, You are buying trying to enjoy the look and feel of luxury you simply can't afford, If you have the $ go ahead and get a newer one , but for most it's just a guaranteed nightmare every time you go to the shop,
@rockfieldlangley1955
@rockfieldlangley1955 Жыл бұрын
Wow! What a quality video. Thanks for the information. I look forward to checking out more of your videos.
@rickzech6490
@rickzech6490 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that you give a cost estimate with your interesting video
@kgisabeast
@kgisabeast Жыл бұрын
I had a 08 GS460 for about 5 years and loved that car! Same engine/trans as this but none of the suspension issues. Put over 100k on that car and was still running great at 230k when I traded it in
@davidkosa
@davidkosa Жыл бұрын
That's a rare car. Less than 2000 made over four years. Better than the LS, for sure. Different suspension that lasts much longer.
@MiroBG359
@MiroBG359 Жыл бұрын
I refuse to let go of my 3GS 300, but thinking of swapping for a 460
@daveh2612
@daveh2612 Жыл бұрын
Crazy rare car!
@Surveillance-
@Surveillance- Жыл бұрын
Have the gs460 currently with 153k. I don’t think the prior owner took much care of it when I got it at 118k. But it’s good now! Solid. Wish the GS interior was a little bigger, but very stylish car overall.
@kgisabeast
@kgisabeast Жыл бұрын
It was probably my favorite lexus out of the 4 I owned, so much power and looked amazing
@rafaelmeneses5066
@rafaelmeneses5066 Жыл бұрын
When I compare the suspension cost of a Lexus vs the Mercedes the Lexus is more for sure. I have an LX470 and the brake parts were north of 600 for original parts. My biggest complaint with the Lexus is the parts availability. The Mercedes is more of a world brand so the parts can be found easily. Great videos by the way.
@great_deception
@great_deception 9 ай бұрын
Thank you, finally someone who admits it!
@Supercruiser66
@Supercruiser66 Жыл бұрын
Had an Ls460 (2009 model). Needed all the bushings replaced at 60k. Abs went out after that. I've owned LX and NX too that had no problems at double the mileage.
@fentonpainter5275
@fentonpainter5275 Жыл бұрын
A BG oil flush service may help the oil rings to free up. See "Watch JR GO" for a DE-sludge of a late model Camaro. Also if you disable any cylinder de-activation that may be on that car it could help. Your shop could become a BG dealer easily enough.
@sgoldens24
@sgoldens24 Жыл бұрын
WOW, I can't believe an auto mechanic would do such poor workmanship on those front brakes, very scary, thanks for posting !
@jmnoah1
@jmnoah1 Жыл бұрын
I have a 2010 LS460 that started burning oil not long after I bought it. Turns out it was one of the valve stem seals going. I did notice some blue smoke on startup and it used about a quart per 700 miles. Luckily, I got the car with an extended warranty which covered reconditioning the cylinder heads (and everything else that goes with doing that) and some other suspension parts (like control arms) that were found to be going out. There were also two summers where the dash had to be taken apart to replace AC actuator motors.... again covered by warranty. The warranty covered more than the car is worth so far and I still have 24,000 miles left on it with a car that has 126,000 miles. I got lucky... I would never get a car like this without some sort or warranty.
@dibaz1
@dibaz1 Жыл бұрын
Did you get the warranty from the dealership or an independent? What type of warranty and how much? Thanks.
@torocars9227
@torocars9227 11 ай бұрын
Hey . Where did you buy that warranty? Carmax ?
@Proximax9
@Proximax9 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for showing this stuff. I am planning on buying a lexus in future, maybe in a year or two, and videos like these are super useful
@mikechiodetti4482
@mikechiodetti4482 Жыл бұрын
A thorough inspection yields information for much needed work AND an unsafe condition with the right front brake. Nice looking car, needs a lot of work!
@Windowsinside
@Windowsinside Жыл бұрын
Great Video!!! most I have a Lexus is250 2012 (direct injection) could you please talk about the importance of installing a catch can and how it is a cheap insurance for the engine :) also Get yourself a better camera that can focus better and give more definition 4K 8K
@AlanForde-CheyneMS
@AlanForde-CheyneMS Жыл бұрын
I always say that the first and and second gen Lexus cars were built to the tagline relentless pursuit of perfection....the third gen was starting to show some cost cutting, still nice cars but.....not as bullet proof as the earlier models
@anthonycartwright2460
@anthonycartwright2460 2 ай бұрын
I love this guy too...great professional mechanic!
@Gaffar767
@Gaffar767 Жыл бұрын
I wish you were in Los Angeles CA, I would love to just shake your hands for an honest professional work you do, am proud of your work and you videos are very educational for all of us lexus owners. keep up the good work and God bless you and your team.
@jamestamu83
@jamestamu83 Жыл бұрын
I had a 2002 LS 430. Started to have front-end suspension issues at 75,000 miles. Apparently that's a common problem with the LS platforms because they have so much weight on the front end that those components wear out quickly. I went to polyurethane bushings, but the car was never the same afterwards. Beautiful car otherwise.
@Kauffman578
@Kauffman578 Жыл бұрын
Mine has 112,000 miles. Haven't encountered that issue. Are you sure it is an LS430?
@angeljaimes9703
@angeljaimes9703 Жыл бұрын
@@Kauffman578 they might have the air suspension version, is yours air suspension?
@Kauffman578
@Kauffman578 Жыл бұрын
@@angeljaimes9703 mine is the middle one, except air suspension.
@lowstrife
@lowstrife Жыл бұрын
You don't want to go with poly bushings on these cars. It's going to be a huge downgrade in the ride quality. & yes lower ball joints on these things love to get burned up. One of the few things they didn't overkill overbuild.
@zoomee99
@zoomee99 Жыл бұрын
PO of my 2004 430 went to the Lex dealer time after time for "loose" front suspension. They threw LCA bushes, ball joints, struts, alignment after alignment at it. Did not fix it. After I bought it (100K mi) I can verify at highway speeds any bump would send it all over the place. Spent some time researching on the Lexus forums then DIY replaced 4 steering rack bushings (parts cost about $120) it now rides like a dream. Check your steering rack bushings, they are a weak spot on the otherwise bulletproof LS430.
@dw6015
@dw6015 Жыл бұрын
As an ls600 owner, the symphony of noise over a bump is an accurate description, mine at 94k miles. However, it's not the hardest diy to replace the bushings and lower ball joint on the awd models. I also suspect axle issues so I bought axles as well. Definitely adjust purchase offer accordingly when buying one, pay the right price, enjoyable cars for the money.
@Mabeylater293
@Mabeylater293 Жыл бұрын
What year is your car?
@Toyota4Life
@Toyota4Life 11 ай бұрын
How is your 600 ownership
@andrewlace
@andrewlace Жыл бұрын
Didn't expect the benediction at the end. Great video, thankyou 🇦🇺
@eshea5050
@eshea5050 8 ай бұрын
I love your channel! Keep up the good work.
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
AMD, A picture is worth a thousand words so a 21 minute video like this must be worth a million. I was reminded that a thorough PRE - purchase inspection is compulsory in the used car market and a car that is MORE expensive to buy is a car that will very likely be MORE expensive to maintain. 😁
@SteveB88
@SteveB88 Жыл бұрын
Also a lot of people who buy those higher end performance cars run them into the ground don’t maintain them. A vehicle inspection is an absolute must if buying a high-end model
@rightlanehog3151
@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын
@@SteveB88 I would say a detailed inspection from a qualified mechanic is mandatory for a used Yaris and becomes more mandatory with the additional complexity of more expensive models. I have walked away from a couple of potential used car purchases that failed to meet the required standard. The money it cost was well worth it. Like all my car lessons, I learned this the hard way 😂
@be5952
@be5952 Жыл бұрын
@@rightlanehog3151 Totally agree. And, I will add, if your inspection turns up _however-many-$_ worth of repairs, you might still decide you like the car enough to buy it, fix it and enjoy it anyway! And this especially if it seems okay other than whatever has worn out and just hasn't been replaced. To me, there seem to be two types of _need-a-lot-of-repairs_ used cars: *1)* Those that are driven by generally careful drivers who'd just rather buy a new(er) car when theirs has too many parts wear out, and *2)* Cars that are beat to crap by someone who abused or didn't care about them. This second kind might need the same list of repairs right now as a similar one from criterion #1. *_But_* due to how it was treated one might expect a ton of extra troubles down the road.
@ethanmain4794
@ethanmain4794 7 ай бұрын
Bought a 2010 LS 460 two days ago without pre purchase inspection. Definitely going to have it checked out soon. Wish me luck 🫡
@sha22276
@sha22276 2 ай бұрын
How was it?
@highiii6605
@highiii6605 2 ай бұрын
I’m thinking of getting a LS 460 this weekend but now I’m nervous. How’d your inspection go
@ethanmain4794
@ethanmain4794 2 ай бұрын
@@sha22276 The mechanic said everything looked good and nothing needed attention.
@ethanmain4794
@ethanmain4794 2 ай бұрын
@@highiii6605 The mechanic said it all looked good, and I’ve been happy with purchase overall. I still definitely recommend getting a pre purchase inspection if you have the time, you don’t want those control arms to fuck you.
@jparkhku
@jparkhku Жыл бұрын
I hope you can do a video on IS250 2nd gen issues. Yes, you already said about its Direct Injection issue. I think such a video will be popular as so many people own one...surely more than this LS460
@eightys4ever
@eightys4ever Жыл бұрын
Love your Left hood strut “Hold tool!”
@joeblow871
@joeblow871 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2006 LS 430 with 155,000 on it. I had to replace the entire suspension like you see here. Saved a ton of money doing it myself, and learned a lot.
@bpaige12
@bpaige12 Жыл бұрын
Did you convert it away from air suspension because it typically doesn't cost that much when you get a conversion kit instead of reinstalling air suspension
@johnguidetti5839
@johnguidetti5839 Жыл бұрын
@@bpaige12 lol why would you want to change it from air suspension the better setup.
@brians7604
@brians7604 Жыл бұрын
@@johnguidetti5839 are you an idiot?
@AngryManSki
@AngryManSki Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I’ve been considering getting a newer year LS. I can definitely attest to the repair cost of owning a Lexus. But, once it’s done, I’m very confident in the reliability. You get what you pay for.
@roninbushito
@roninbushito Жыл бұрын
Way cheaper than bmw or Benz or Porsche
@paystyles5429
@paystyles5429 Жыл бұрын
Best off with top trim Avalon
@njsongwriter
@njsongwriter Жыл бұрын
I have no plans of considering buying a Lexus but found thus video to be eye-opening. Thanks.
@netman88
@netman88 Жыл бұрын
Great shop and videos as always, I always learn something new watching. I got a question on Toyota/Lexus Parts. How long they make them for discontinued vehicles? Till the warranty expires or longer? Thanks again.
@jamesanderson4014
@jamesanderson4014 Жыл бұрын
Would ventilated and slotted rotors with ceramic pads work better? What about smaller rims with a tire height of 60-65 maybe 17-18 inch rims ? Soften wear and tear on the control arm bushings. Standard coil over strut it will ride better. Your videos are really good and easy to follow.
@zalcan3620
@zalcan3620 Жыл бұрын
Wheels*
@raycollington4310
@raycollington4310 Жыл бұрын
In UK, the annual MOT (Roadworthiness) test would not allow this car to be on the road with all these worn parts.
@alechappy2070
@alechappy2070 Ай бұрын
In my country the person who did the Front RHS brakes would be forced to pay a fine after rectifying it to correct standard with original Parts. That was Frightening
@chuksayodele
@chuksayodele Жыл бұрын
Thanks, for such learning and entertaining piece
@FAISAL29579s
@FAISAL29579s Жыл бұрын
Am following your video from KSA and also am Toyota owner as well. You do a good job by delivering very value information for DIYs 👍
@antonioprado8068
@antonioprado8068 Жыл бұрын
And this is why I do my own repairs. I save money and know it was done right. Shops just wanna get it in an out and quickly as possible with no inspection
@be5952
@be5952 Жыл бұрын
And you're one of those people that make people like me cry---we who aren't smart enough nor technically inclined enough to *_do_* our own repairs! (Just kidding. Good for you!👍) # Extreme_envy
@UnkleAL1962
@UnkleAL1962 Жыл бұрын
When I saw this I had to go look on my list - my list I compiled listening to you during another of your videos on good vs. not so good Toyota & Lexus car models - and yep you've spoken about these LS's before I even made 2 notes on that one!! Good Toyota list: Camry: 2015-2017 Camry: 2004-2006 V6 Camry: 2000-2001 was a workhorse Corolla: 2005-2008 1.8L Bad Toyota list Corolla 98-2002 worst ever, bad rust Camry 2002-2004 unless hasn’t been overheated V6 is ok - 2A2-FE Rav 4: 2006-2008 Camry: 2007-2009 oil burners/rings Matrix & Corolla 09-2013 - ONLY 1.8 or don’t do it Good Lexus List: ES350 RX350 but 2010 up IS - good but not as good for tall people GS350 - a little more in maintenance GX/LX - both good LS430 is the legend 2005 up ES 300,330 - all except 2002-2006. 2nd best after LS430 - Like 2004-2006 Camry XLE V6 very good 4.7 V8 is great engine Lexus Bad List IS250 in all years disaster had DI only and carboned up 4GR-FSE 2.5 w/D4 system avoid at all costs GS250 - D4S is ok - has DI and port injection- no carbon S250 LS460 - 2007 to 2011 LS460 - nickel and dime you, bad brakes, prem fuel, etc. etc
@Robert8455
@Robert8455 10 ай бұрын
Excellent advise and insight to the complexity of this model. I've been considering buying a used LS or GS to take some long road trips so this video was right on. Now I might need to look at a Camry now. 🙂
@Mabeylater293
@Mabeylater293 10 ай бұрын
Get a 2011-2016 ls460 or any year LS430
@YouKnowGeo
@YouKnowGeo Жыл бұрын
Wow. I must say, this was a great informative video. You explain things very well.
@JesusisKingRedeemerMessiah
@JesusisKingRedeemerMessiah Жыл бұрын
My 2007 LS 460 burned so much oil , had suspension problems, and replacing the starter was a big expensive job. Even replacing a headlight required taking of a tire. Great nice car but it is expensive to maintain . Traded it in a while ago. My ES is more affordable to maintain not to mention not a premium only fuel V8. Had to cancel appointment but I can’t wait for you to see my 2000 ES 300 with over 200k. It has HID factory Installed lights which was very surprising to me. Thanks I really enjoy these videos !
@Rahz743
@Rahz743 Жыл бұрын
I have the same car same issues minus I don’t think I’m burning a lot of oil. Thinking about selling it. The front needs to be done I did the two rear air suspensions and starter on it so far
@mattb9664
@mattb9664 Жыл бұрын
That's right around with the HID (and clean lighting) craze started! Time is flying by!
@be5952
@be5952 Жыл бұрын
@@Rahz743 Hi. I don't know if you come back to check your old posts, but I have a thought for you (and others in a similar position). I can see you might be tired of putting a lot of money into your car, so you figure maybe get something else. But! If one buys another used vehicle, as someone else above said, all, or most, will need some repairs to 'bring them up to snuff'. At that point (with a different car), 2 things: *a)* What's the general prognosis for that type of vehicle, regarding what might typically go wrong with it in the future? (As in, in a few thousand more kilometres, what else do those owners typically have to fix?), and *b)* How would you feel about having / driving / enjoying _that_ car? I'm assuming an 'alternative' car wouldn't be as nice as these Lexuses (Lexi? hehe) seem to be. So, driving something 'lesser' might not give you the fun and enjoyment? I'm thinking about this because let's say you put another $3000...$5000...whatever into your nice Lexus. Then from that point what's the prediction for future 'known issues'? Are they then good for the next 5....6....7 years without expected breakdowns? Because if so then you might actually feel better about keeping your Lexus. You will have spent the necessary dough to make / keep it good, and you won't have to worry about a different car's future 'unknowns'. Just a thought. I guess the answer is different for everyone. But I know I'd rather 'invest' in a generally great, well made car with all the luxuries a Lexus has than drive a lesser car.🙂
@Rahz743
@Rahz743 Жыл бұрын
@@be5952 thanks yeh that’s exactly what I’m doing. Doing the install on Thursday. Everything new up front. Air suspension, control arms, and knuckles and tie bars
@saladbreath607
@saladbreath607 9 ай бұрын
With the ES330 you have to partially remove the bumper and battery to replace the driver side headlight housing.
@lexustech48
@lexustech48 Жыл бұрын
I made A LOT of money fixing these cars. The LS460 got better in 2011 with much more robust control arms. Its far cheaper to completely replace the air struts with standard spring struts. Air ride was much plusher in the LS430. Water pumps and engine valley coolant plate leaks are also a known weak point of the UR family of engines. Not uncommon to see radiator failures as well.
@Mabeylater293
@Mabeylater293 Жыл бұрын
Did they stress the water pumps, coolant valley leak and in the 2011+ years like they did with the suspension?
@torocars9227
@torocars9227 11 ай бұрын
This comment should be pinned for those suckers still willing to buy this car
@menombakglobalis
@menombakglobalis 4 ай бұрын
​@@japanwatchconnectionits land cruiser, 😅
@sha22276
@sha22276 2 ай бұрын
Lmao you saved me from buying that, I'm thinking of just getting a GS instead 😂​@@torocars9227
@sha22276
@sha22276 2 ай бұрын
​@@japanwatchconnectionthey're pretty much junk unless you plan on spending $6k every few years
@Me-nq4gz
@Me-nq4gz Жыл бұрын
I had a brake job come in once similar to that one. Customers complaint was that she would lose control of the vehicle when she’d brake. The brake pad shim had cut all the way through the brake rotor hat. The rotor was on two pieces rendering the brake at that wheel useless. She said that her neighbor or someone replaced the brakes a week prior to that. It doesn’t take long to happen! It was an interesting test drive!!
@peterkwok9608
@peterkwok9608 Жыл бұрын
Thank you AMD for another awesome video 😎😎👍👍
@kimbilinkimbilin
@kimbilinkimbilin 11 ай бұрын
Avoid any car that has air suspension
@mikeb3536
@mikeb3536 Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2007 LS 460 a few years ago with 100k on the clock. Had it professionally inspected before purchase and only paid 12k. I feel very lucky that I got two years of fun driving out of it and only had to pay for one $2000 brake job. BTW, it burned about a quart of oil every 700 miles when I got it. Changed oil to Mobil 1 and went on some long road trips (adding oil as needed). After 5000 miles, the oil burning stopped. Guess the rings were fouled when I got it.
@roncaster2804
@roncaster2804 Жыл бұрын
I've always used Mobile 1... Some say it's just hyped advertising... I don't know the truth, but I have never had issues with any vehicle or yard equipment
@roninbushito
@roninbushito Жыл бұрын
@@roncaster2804 it’s not hyped
@NA0533
@NA0533 Жыл бұрын
2000 for brakes on Lexus? I paid $1200 for all originals on Porsche (parts and labor with new wear sensors)
@Nicedesk
@Nicedesk Жыл бұрын
Amazing! Finally found the channel that I have been looking for!
@marshallwise1763
@marshallwise1763 Жыл бұрын
Have 98 ls400 104,000 miles. Performed regular maintenance: timing belt, water and power steering pump, brakes, battery, new tires ect. Best car ever owned. Fast, smooth, quiet and luxurious. And no car payments. 😋
@pauldevassy2379
@pauldevassy2379 Жыл бұрын
As a Lexus GX owner, sure they are reliable but for some reason Lexus wont put a standard DIN stereo in any of their models. Sure my car may last 20 years but feel I am rolling with 8-track with NO option to upgrade.
@chrisso6903
@chrisso6903 Жыл бұрын
Wow you went over this front to back and didn't miss a thing! Who worked on this before? He wasn't a good mechanic and I hope the owner shows him the rotor because as you said "very Dangerous " and he must be shown the mistake he made! There are not many honest. Good mechanics left out there and in Australia I have had trouble with servicing from Toyota but that another bad story! There blessed to have there car looked at by yourself as you would be overwhelmed here if you were to work over here. May you be blessed as I know you are. Aussie chris 🇦🇺 ♥️
@roninbushito
@roninbushito Жыл бұрын
Our dealer Servco bought all the Australian Toyota dealers from Hawaii
@amirshake9803
@amirshake9803 Жыл бұрын
I had one 2008 ls460L. That car drove like a dream. But its the same old suspension issue. I wanted to change the air suspension but I was advised against it. 3 months later after patching and toying. I flipped it. But the car is a dream.
@thevanmancan4850
@thevanmancan4850 Жыл бұрын
That FR pad and rotor. Wow!!!!!
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