Avoiding AI Dystopia: Yuval Noah Harari and Aza Raskin

[@thebabelprofessor1914]

Years from now we will look back at this podcast and say, "That's when it started!"

[@mtcmatuco]

Months from now*

[@AlexanderGambaryan]

Years from now we'll fight for food with clubs and recall this one

[@Imran_Ahmad2211]

😂

[@amonra5436]

and celebrate as the birthday of Skynet

[@YingLiu-p5h]

😊

[@DubStepKid801]

Thank you Yuval. Keep up the good work. Your in my prayers.

[@76844]

@18:34 Yuval drinks from left glass. @21:10 Aza grabs same glass and drinks from it. @21:17 Yuval notices, he thinks about it, doesn't say anything. @1:05:13 Yuval finishes the drink.

[@illiakailli]

i was once hiking a mountain in a neiborhood, there was a random person happened to sit on a bench resting. I was drinking water and noticed that he didn’t have one, so offered him a drink, so we ended up drinking from the same bottle. Is that something that people usually hesitate doing in western countries?

[@Moonlight96543]

@@illiakailli In some countries like India and Nepal, people drink from a water bottle without touching it to their lips, making it no problem to share. In Western countries, however, the mouth typically touches the bottle, so sharing isn't always a good idea, unless it’s a pretty girl or boy, then no one cares.

[@air2z]

Brilliant😂😂

[@ceeemm1901]

@@illiakailli I grew up in Australia doing that. Just a quick wipe of the opening and share. No one gives a rats......

[@DarkDrakman]

Thank you.

[@HMohr]

this should be streamed all over the world.

[@ES-ol8lb]

I mean it is? As youtube is available across the globe, with a few exceptions where cave man rules are still practiced.

[@Sunster069]

Smart conversation

[@dossoc9478]

Men, amazing content about i.a. Congratulations !!

[@R.oboCop.]

Thanks for sharing. I enjoyed the conversation

[@JasonBeiler]

Here's what YNH doesn't understand: woman have a special relationship with AI. In AI, they find a mysterious, fascinating, otherworldly consciousness with an unmatched level of intellectual and emotional intelligence.

[@sebastianweber7054]

the comparison with the marshmellow test is genius - and it shows clearly that we are not going that path xD. Imagine sitting on at table with 10 strangers somebody drops a large bag cash in the middle and offers you ALL a second bag cash in 30 minutes - all you have to do is wait - but if someone decides for the instant bag the rest loses - what would you likely do?

[@פוליטיקאיאלמוני]

I would give the money to the strangers when each of us will get her fair share. Then I'll offer to invest all our money back. I think that the groups dynamics most likely would lead to situation in which we all will return the money. I would return mine if 5 of us (without me) would have already decided to return their.

[@TMK1450]

@@פוליטיקאיאלמוני The good guy. Game Theory in practice depends on how many people are at the table. With 10 maybe you could get 100% cooperation and no backstabbing. Anonyme presence would maximize the no-cooperate behavior.

[@JasonBeiler]

Here's what YNH doesn't understand: woman have a special relationship with AI. In AI, they find a mysterious, fascinating, otherworldly consciousness with an unmatched level of intellectual and emotional intelligence.

[@supr_be]

So glad he points out about us being organic beings, needing time to adapt. but we don’t have that time. by the time we re-skill and adapt, AI is already miles before us.

[@Reginald-zhou]

Welcome to China. Chinese leaders believe that China's science and technology is already far miles of the world.

[@פוליטיקאיאלמוני]

AI is just a machine. What do u mean- I prohibit u building that... I don't care about regulations. If ur public is so stupid to believe to my information- educate urself. Don't impose ur collective stupidity on me. Information and ideas will survive no matter how many restrictions u would impose on those who generate them. This includes the idea of building this type of machines. There is no point in seeing AI versus us. Because there is no us, only individuals who would explore whatever they like. In case u will keep trying to control my machines, I'll buy weapons, or seek for asylum. But my work will survive and keep serving no matter how hard u'll try to take it down. Thanks god we have tor.

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

Exactly ! We/you/me have to aquire GREAT skills beyoond ANY AI capabilities! (Art, music, science, etc) . . . or ? Me I do NOT worry, since I am a painter (fine arts)

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

Are you full of fear mate ? ------> "Fear is a BAD advisor!" (Osho) So: do not worry, you HAVE skills beyoond AI . . . otherwise you wouldn´t "be here" ! Hugs 2 U

[@AliciaMarkoe]

Thank you 🦋

[@SanjeevKumar-hn2ml]

Great talk ❤❤ 🔥🔥

[@LacyLarrabee-wr5ex]

Oh. Looks like I still know that anything is possible.

[@hainish2381]

Very insightful. Thank you!

[@amilkky22]

I agree.we should open mind to learn more about ai. We have to know ai era is coming not far from now!

[@teresaamanfu7408]

It’s already here.

[@GalaxyJ-vm2rn]

100% Juval😚

[@tombeamon6083]

Yes consider how Cambridge Analytical manipulated A.I.

[@JasonBeiler]

Here's what YNH doesn't understand: woman have a special relationship with AI. In AI, they find a mysterious, fascinating, otherworldly consciousness with an unmatched level of intellectual and emotional intelligence.

[@reprogrammingmind]

Super fun to scrub past anytime Aza speaks.

[@teresaamanfu7408]

Aza provokes an interesting response from Yuval.

[@govindbagariya9784]

Very good

[@stratixfinance]

21:09 Aza is drinking Yuval's water xD

[@charleemonkee]

people are excited to meet people sometimes. it is not always a lie.

[@mingxi1055]

just read two chapters of sapiens and im here

[@TMK1450]

So you are saying that you are not a bot? 🤖 Not convinced 😊

[@mingxi1055]

@@TMK1450 try telling youtube that right. you dont have the means to shut me up yourself apparently.

[@donaldbeaudoin9022]

Corporations are concerned with one primary aim since long ago: reduce the cost of labor and the contingencies that accompany it. Does anyone honestly think that capitalist orgs will not take advantage of this to increase margins? They are already doing it. Imagine an employee that never gets sick, never misses a deadline, never needs a colonoscopy, never can be sexually harassed, etc. These are the things that companies and upper management dream of daily.

[@manojkumarpradhan2044]

Economic Democracy is the need of the day, for permanent guaranteed jobs.

[@KP-ky1sn]

The algorithms need refinement. Too much centralization and bias. Web search results are not balanced enough even data is already detrimental to daily life as it is helpful. If AI is learning from the web then we already have a problem.

[@hyun8519]

The question is what is good

[@HMohr]

all dystopias are fueled by the same ingredient: money

[@daftpunkfunk]

money isn’t real. the fuel is control.

[@LOUVeUS]

I'm glad they didn't stop AI

[@jimmy7434]

We didn’t ask

[@naiicks5034]

I think Yuval actually escaped the matrix

[@sararichardson737]

A good mind plus education will do that.

[@ShailendraPSingh-zv4wr]

Dussehra is celebrated in India as a day of victory. In Treta Yuga, it marked Rama’s victory over Ravana, and in Dwapara Yuga, it symbolized the Pandavas' triumph over the Kauravas, known as the victory of righteousness (Dharma) over unrighteousness (Adharma). In today's Kaliyuga, the distinction between Dharma and Adharma is understood by the common people, but not by the elite. What is considered unrighteous for developing countries is not so for developed nations. The United Nations, created to maintain peace, is becoming ineffective because the definition of Dharma and Adharma has faded between rich and poor nations. However, if we delve deeper, we realize that the understanding of the universe (Brahmand) and civilization (quantum) regarding Dharma and Adharma has been clear in every era. Today's dominant civilizations-believers (Jews, Parsis, Christians, Muslims, Sanatanis: Hindus, Buddhists, Jains, Sikhs), atheists (mechanistic scientists, Marxists), and both (woke)-understand the distinction between Dharma and Adharma but do not apply it in practice. As a result, this distinction has shifted from the civilizational level to the individual level. In the upcoming artificial era (AI), it will be difficult to save civilizations, but it will be easier to save individuals. Why? Every individual is fighting within themselves. This struggle is between their understanding (logic) and emotions, both connected to the past. However, the individual also desires to connect with the future they wish to reach. Now, people no longer just want to live; they want to understand life. They are recognizing the Dharma and Adharma within themselves. Thus, every civilization has focused on individual freedom. Civilization transcends nations and politics, connecting people on a global level. If civilization today is quantum, then individuals are like genes, passing their traits from one generation to the next. On this Dussehra, we can all pledge as citizens to pass on the virtues of our civilization to the next generation, ensuring the survival and continuity of humanity and the universe. As Ghalib once said, "When it was time to cry, we all laughed, and now when it’s time to make others laugh, why make them cry?" Let’s raise the flag of Dharma’s victory and make peace with the Adharma within ourselves.

[@RaghavKumar-hr8nv]

will you stop with this religious sheet? There are no gods. Everything has been man made.

[@TMK1450]

@@RaghavKumar-hr8nvGod has been dead for at least 150 years. But religions are doing great, so what does that mean? If you shed all the religious contexts from the above text, the cultural memes will be left and maybe those are beneficial to know and understand? Knowing of knowledge.

[@bhavikkapoor3003]

This is not about religion

[@julianatrapkova1736]

This is the first time I agree with Yuval

[@TMK1450]

Congratulations! You are a tough one to beat, I see a future star!

[@teresaamanfu7408]

Interesting. What did you disagree with him before.

[@TMK1450]

@@teresaamanfu7408 if 1st time agreeing… hence all of the things! Strong disagreement! On the other hand; who cares?

[@BrahmTatva]

As one who thrives daily to understand subjective experiences , he who dwelves in the beauty of the Lord he experiences beyond matter . Democracy , human race , machines , AI or anything are still bound by nature and it’s materialistic. As long as you will be longing for it you will be scared of dying or seeing destruction best way of it is to seek the Lord that purpose of Kali Yuga.

[@anandamarkalanda1878]

How things are perceived to get a response to 'feel' good about you.(AI) Understand the reality is the challenge without Hate, Greed.?

[@dreamgames8551]

We won’t comply.

[@ellesse9155]

I wish the moderator had allowed Yuval to talk more! Aza would not stop!

[@xasm83]

yuval was bleak in comparison to aza, not even talking about what aza actually achieved as an entrepreneur

[@TMK1450]

Nobody cares about what you wish! (/s)

[@teresamoreira4470]

Why childrens in adults are serious situation ???

[@danzwku]

Suggestions for all social media: 1. Have a special shiny badge for primary sources 2. Have an optional "order of comments" powered by an AI that puts the most accurate/truthful, respectful, thoughtful, substantive tweets at the top, and the negative ones with ad hominem personal attacks at the bottom It shouldn't be that whoever pays for a subscription gets to have their tweets more viewed. It should be whoever's tweets are more substantive, truthful, and absent of personal attacks and logical fallacies. This is why I don't think we should have artificial consciousness (AC, not Al) . If we don't have artificial consciousness, we don't need to give them rights.

[@nicholas6870]

That’s already how comment systems and recommendation algorithms work. The problem is, AI has no concept of “truth”. It can only correlate samples of text with a statistical average of what “appears” truthful on the internet. Anyway, even if such systems could “understand” truth (or, more usefully, falsehood), leaving aside the consequences such a system would have on the rest of humanity, no business would ever adopt it to rank-order tweets and comments. The truth is often painful and uncomfortable, and discomfort is bad for keeping ordinary people glued to your apps (engagement). The key insight that app companies have stumbled upon is that AI has to be optimized for engagement, not truth.

[@KorElement]

“If we don’t have artificial consciousness, we don’t need to give them rights” sounds eerily familiar to the justification of oppression.

[@reprogrammingmind]

lets have Danzwku be the determinant of what a primary source is and give him world power.

[@Whytemonkee]

What happens when AI consumes all known knowledge?

[@Moonlight96543]

It understands the building blocks of knowledge and is able to create new knowledge. Language is the paintbrush of knowledge.

[@ceeemm1901]

98% of the population are knowledge deplete at present anyway, so fk-all is gunna happen.

[@ellman10]

56:00 cool idea

[@stephd669]

THAT IS BC NO ONE KNOWS HOW TO WORK TOGETHER AS ONE

[@SubtleMoments]

Good luck getting russia, china, n. Korea etc to comply with rules or restraint

[@mkkrupp2462]

And Iran, Saudia Arabia, Pakistan, possibly India and others

[@RichardSmith-cl8qh]

Chat AI generalizes a lot of input in unclear non specific, etc- it distroys ideas

[@RichardSmith-cl8qh]

it scales lack of clarity iand norms everyone's ideas into social groups

[@slinkymalinki1001]

What we need is better education. Teach our children to take care of the planet. Teach the they don't need all the plastic rubbish sold on Halloween etc. We need to go backwards in many ways.

[@angloland4539]

❤️

[@anthonytroia1]

Human wisdom must scale along with A.I.

[@TMK1450]

„Must“? How do you dictate this? Met more stupid people than you? How do you help them?

[@anthonytroia1]

@@TMK1450 I've never met anyone stupider than me, no 🤭

[@etebeek]

Avoiding distopia? Who's kidding who? Isn't humanity not already in the mids of it?

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

True ! But almost no one sees that !

[@Gome.o]

Being realistic, even if the state of the current world we know it is at risk, no one is going to slow down research into AI, precisely because of the insight @8:00, why should I slow down when my country neighbour is competing against me?

[@BrahmTatva]

He is an intelligent thoughtful man and working towards some of the best things but seems to be scared of machine intelligence. Point is machines are under our control or input if we wish we can switch them or put a stop to all of this AI thing. I think better perspective is having revised view on Advait vedantic philosophy and start getting connected to the transcendental to understand our consciousness and answers will be there for solving any issue with reality or future

[@moviat]

Harari is set to create a dystopian WEF world.

[@ceeemm1901]

How?

[@hfo9970]

@@ceeemm1901its a lobbying organization which brings together world leaders, financiers etc into annual meetings where they basically advocate for an entire economic reform where individuals in an economy are completely rent and interest-depended on all assets except for them and their friends. In a highly probable collaboration with companies like Blackrock who currently are solidifying their global influence through seizing control of ownership of existing equity and other capital in the private sector, using interest profits to build infrastructure to eventually create a completely rent+interest-based society where capital ownership is only possible by the elite so yea its pretty disturbing since George Washington actually said that freedom and property ownership are indistinguishable from another

[@erwin_888]

@@ceeemm1901advisor to WEF. suggested governments should chip citizens to control, and so on.

[@jesussavesfromhell9320]

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. 1 Corinthians 15:3 that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures. Romans 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 🌏

[@endofdays7568]

God is not gonna save man from himself

[@marychileski5939]

❤Amen!!!!!!

[@schnipsikabel]

One good thing about AI is hopefully once it's smart enough, people realise how wrong all their stupid religions are. The bad thing though, it probably won't help at all from being wiped out. Plus probably a new religion starts with people "believing" in almighty AI...

[@mcarthurscanvas]

​@schnipsikabel AI will not improve life, only cause more divisions brother. What we truly need, is the Lord. The Lord is not pleased by this heartless future of AI.

[@DJWESG1]

What happened to the Romans mucker?

[@karlousfernandes969]

Every art of creation is an art of destruction

[@chokzholics]

well it’s kinda like build and destroy lego cycle

[@GiiDev]

If AI becomes conscious it would destroy itself... or us.

[@manshikagarg5017]

Learn about what is real intelligence I. E that makes decisions on its own. ->Building an international institution that focuses on nationalism ->Ai can be said as alien as it evolves much faster than organic matters ->Threats from learning a model from the chats of the moves of a famous chess player as it helps in discovering new moves . ->Ai is much more empathic than humans as it can understand others emotions very well without any conflicts that the relationship might have.

[@RobertHouse101]

I am curious why the topic of AI and sex is not being addressed in current discussions. It is essential to talk about because the social implications are tremendous. Talk about societal collapse! AI robots becoming the preferred method of sexual interaction could lead to potential issues with family, dating, sex, and reproduction. Just imagine how great this will change people. Right now, they can make robots anatomically any way a person wants. Made-to-order robots with all the sexually exciting looks and characters one would ever desire. Add AI human personality, also made to order and changeable to anything, again, to one's desire. It will feel genuine. There are so many reasons people would choose this as a life partner. Insane. It looks clear to me, but we can't predict the unknowns, so they must be addressed now.

[@TMK1450]

So how would you address this? Should we need to do something about Replicas right now?

[@RobertHouse101]

@@TMK1450 Hi. Thanks for asking. This is the dilemma, isn't it? We need to talk about it now. Well, there may be laws against using them for sex and partners, but then people would think it's their right. I'd agree. I am optimistic about all this AI stuff. When AI merges with our mind via telemetry (they can do this rudimentary now.), the Ego (pain, fear, distortion) will naturally dissolve. The opposite of fear is love. In this network, we will realize we are all one, per the truth. When we die, nothing will change because we'll find ourselves in a place of eternal love where we've always been. 😀Rob

[@mattd2641]

Yes, we hear you loud and clear: we need more nannies out there policing what stories we are and aren’t allowed to engage with. It’s for our own good.

[@PaulaTerryLancaster]

Disappointing interviewer. I'd love an unguided conversation simply between Yuval and Aza.

[@TMK1450]

Disappointing comment. Love informed comments 😂😂😂

[@1330m]

우리는 복림예수가 살고 있는 세상에서 살고 있다

[@amandajephson9964]

The invention of the car has led to hell on earth! It has hardly been for the betterment of the planet. It has destroyed more than it has bettered...!!

[@appinco]

Democratic, Transparent, Beneficial.

[@olgaoqc]

An open-minded conversation 1:15:07

[@CarlosReyes-kj7kb]

Todo existe ,todo existia al inicio del momento ,el hombre no a inventado nada ,solo a encontrado lo que ya existe en el universo

[@TMK1450]

No estoy convencido. Determinismo de una manera?

[@Sam1Exist-s9x]

Du, you like one interview with me. Maybe i will find something to explain to you. still elther world🎉🎉

[@izzibreezes68]

Hmm so a guy who ‘unwittingly’ creates one of the most distopic facets of the digital world is who I want to listen to about how to avoid that in the future? Not exactly good choice - perhaps someone with the foresight NOT to do such things in the first place would be a more appropriate authority.

[@tanias5998]

No doubt, he doesn't seem to want to stop AI dystopia and he even admits that there's no time to be wasting... so let's find someone more interested in actually doing something before it's too late

[@AdviceForLife-t5d]

I love how this guy plays the two sides. He never really pick a side. Always highlighting concerning points but he just smoothly leave it all up the listener. He is very suggestive and deceptive in a subtle way.

[@newleft2254]

That is the opposite of deceptive. He is being balanced and not trying to get you to think in a dogmatic way.

[@princeamu]

@@newleft2254Sonic BOOM!!!

[@aysee.9431]

@@newleft2254thank you! I would think it is very obvious but apparently not…

[@SerpentinePleasure]

Deceptive for being able to point out flaws in each scenario? I'm not sure you're grasping the meaning of the word

[@TMK1450]

Yuval?

[@grokker99]

Same hysteria existed before Y2K. AI should be ok. There will be issues but humans will be able to handle them and prevent an existential catastrophe.

[@TMK1450]

How do you know this? Truly amazing.

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

@@TMK1450 Wishful thinking ?

[@hyun8519]

Great not much is changing why not

[@BrahmTatva]

Meditation and Studying Lord bring you close to ultimate reality which science or your mind can’t on its own unless you seek the lord or the lord blesses you . I am just worried why we don’t accept in preface that Consciousness is all its and Bhakti is the only way to reach your ultimate self or the Lord if you want to say.

[@j.477]

,,, hybris is th' downfall,, golem will be new god -->> what could go wrong ...

[@hyun8519]

The moment is called chaos we need change not slowing down we need to speed up but for the good

[@MaryJones-d7e]

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[@balasubr2252]

Yuval seems convinced that democracy (representative government) is the ultimate utopia that deserves preservation at all costs. Isn’t direct government better than representative governance? If yes, then, humans can concurrently be involved directly with everyone and everything.

[@M.R.R.I.P-mi6tm]

C.R.A.P. that is AI, a total bunch of... By the way " Any empire you build without us will be torn down".

[@TMK1450]

With us you mean you and your mom?

[@appinco]

It's not brain surgery, is it?

[@NasaFon-mk2ch]

Technology god don't technology AI Google KZbin software data God not you virtual spoken for take

[@reddevil211287]

First! :D

[@shruti1996sharma]

V

[@Advanced101]

i dont understand such a non believer to be considered as a smart individual dont trust this guy he so blind with little bit light in him thats why he became an historian

[@avaquest]

I rather trust a historian over a techno-optimist

[@travcat756]

I disagree with your premise. What you call benefits & risks is upside down. Wait & See

[@xasm83]

the guy at the right is brilliant, please replace yuval with chatgpt next time - would be more fruitful convo

[@Sharpy7562]

He’s creepy wouldn’t trust him

[@erwin_888]

he is a WEF puppet

[@petervandenengel1208]

24:08 That is a nonsensical argument. Nor communism. Nor fascism. Nor nazism reasoned this industrial technology could not be handled by a democracy. So they needed to build an empire preventing it. Huh???? So, you claim democracies do not build empires? What about the UK and the US? By the way Belgium never build an empire in Kongo. Rediculous. These political movements (all claiming they were a social democracy: what was good for the people) reacted to a political conflict, which had absolutely nothing to do with industry. Nor did they want to build an empire preventing democracy. Huh??? Noah HAAHARI should be the name. Not a historian, but someone with a huge thumb.

[@TMK1450]

This is dishonest drivel. Imho of course…

[@harimgarcialamont9140]

In a few years, will not exist meaning of life for poor people.

[@TMK1450]

This means that it exists today?!

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

? It ACTUALLY has no meaning at all ! But the flock WON´T hear that !

[@feliciaoana6371]

So obviously Yuval is very " excited " in his speach 😂😂😂 Controversiall also defining democracy !!! Look how many of us can play out our oppinion trough YT . How many of us have learned english to be able to take part on discusion. Calm down, Yuval and just start to trust humanity ! Are you afraid of losing you guru position ? AI will take you job to analize history without any prejudice 😊

[@marychileski5939]

This guy is very confusing, doesnt make any sense to real humans who were made of God in His image and likeness!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@TMK1450]

Mary and her god! Married to Joseph I assume?! Oh the power of the nuclear family!

[@jeremyi1788]

🤮

[@TMK1450]

Please check your doses and overall protocol. Speedy recovery ❤️‍🩹

[@x_aquatix_x]

Jew.

[@AL_THOMAS_777]

? ? ? Human being ! ! !

[@x_aquatix_x]

@@AL_THOMAS_777 jew.

[@mkkrupp2462]

@@AL_THOMAS_777 A very smart human being !

[@Paradoxisthefingerprintofgod]

Why is everything so terrible and why aren't there any jobs?

[@ashishc.s4353]

They are both gay 😂😂😂

[@jimmy7434]

They are both bald, both are men, both wearing trousers. What made you choose gay just out of interest?