Avoiding FAKE Chinese and Asian Art on Liveauctioneers, Invaluable and Bidsquare, 中国艺术赝品

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Peter Combs

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Regular weekly and bi-weekly videos from Peter Combs and Bidamount about Asian art and the auction market. With an emphasis on fine art, auction news, and art news from numerous auction houses and online auction venues. These videos focus extensively on the Chinese art market and the Japanese art market. Other videos cover the topics of understanding and identifying authentic Chinese porcelain, Chinese bronze as well as information about the history of Chinese and Asian art. Visit Bidamount.com to learn more, join the ASIAN ART Forum and take advantage of the reference library filled with hundreds of auction catalogs and reference books on Fine Art, current art value by category, and links to museum collections. Weekly Asian art news and auction results from Bidamount.com. Avoiding FAKE Chinese and Asian Art on Liveauctioneers, Invaluable and Bidsquare
A look at how to approach online auctions of Chinese and Asian art on Liveauctioneers, invaluable and BIDSQUARE. Spot what a sale of all copies and reproductions looks like, an explanation of the auction market and how TRUE Rarities find a buyer, spotting the hallmarks of an auction offering all or mostly copies.
An explanation of WHY rare Yuan, Ming and Imperial Qing pieces are very unlikely to be on these sites, though many other good things are.
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@lindarichmond1197
@lindarichmond1197 9 ай бұрын
Newbie here. Can't thank you enough, Peter. Enormously helpful. So much to take in. Will watch again and again.
@Rose39M
@Rose39M 4 жыл бұрын
I loved your comment " stamping them out like cookies " love it Peter!
@wowreally594
@wowreally594 Жыл бұрын
Liveauctioneers is a complete scam, fake items but the worst is the scam the auction houses run with the local UPS stores to 5x even up to 10x the shipping cost. You might win an item for say $60 but they will get you on the shipping. Shipping will cost you $400 on that $60 item. The local UPS store then splits the overage with the auction house. You have been warned.
@jasonsr101
@jasonsr101 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping us out of trouble. You are priceless Sir. A+
@danbeaulieu5567
@danbeaulieu5567 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a vase at Salvation Army for 6$ and sold it for 1100$
@coinlessfirefighter293
@coinlessfirefighter293 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always ! Thank you Peter !
@MarkTulsa2024
@MarkTulsa2024 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Keep up the great work Peter!
@flowingbrooke1
@flowingbrooke1 4 жыл бұрын
Great information...thanks.
@Jade44968
@Jade44968 4 жыл бұрын
THE BEST POINTS YOU HAD MENTIONED,,,, THANK YOU SO MUCH...
@susprime7018
@susprime7018 4 жыл бұрын
Good advice always welcome.
@elohimsown9244
@elohimsown9244 Жыл бұрын
Thank YOU, Mr. Combs!
@treelife365
@treelife365 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, Peter! Good advice, too :P
@pkubek1
@pkubek1 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Peter!
@virginiastansbury5403
@virginiastansbury5403 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you . I so enjoy your knowledge and videos. Always learning. 👍
@PeterCombs
@PeterCombs 4 жыл бұрын
and thank you for watching...glad you liked it. Best Peter
@Trgn
@Trgn 2 жыл бұрын
Great informative video. Thank you
@evanpenn1
@evanpenn1 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, Peter! Thanks
@PeterCombs
@PeterCombs 4 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! glad you like it. Best Peter
@kimquiggle259
@kimquiggle259 Жыл бұрын
Interesting... Thank You For Sharing.
@loshajhamid7972
@loshajhamid7972 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Peter you are my hero
@davidnelson6563
@davidnelson6563 4 жыл бұрын
A injection of common sense, thank you Peter.
@Johnmartin-vz7yc
@Johnmartin-vz7yc 4 жыл бұрын
I remember the first time I checked out Chinese porcelain on E Bay, I was delighted that I could spot some Ming pieces. Then I noticed there were a lot of really good pieces of Ming,,,from China! Then I realised there is no such thing as a hidden gem on E Bay. The whole experience took about 5 minutes. Great video as usual!
@languishinga7368
@languishinga7368 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! Peter. Great stuff
@PeterCombs
@PeterCombs 4 жыл бұрын
Very welcome, Peter
@henrytoh8058
@henrytoh8058 4 жыл бұрын
ya.we need people like Peter.Wonderful job.You save the antique world. Crooks everywhere now Should make invaluables and liveauctioneers responsible for authenticity.They are at fault too.
@Nam_Beo
@Nam_Beo 4 жыл бұрын
very helpful
@bobolpatrick3789
@bobolpatrick3789 4 жыл бұрын
merci ,vos vidéo sont toujours très utiles pour, un amateur comme moi !
@esoteric_Derek
@esoteric_Derek 2 жыл бұрын
You Sir, are a good find! I whopping big thanks to you, from a literal DAYS old noob not-even-novice, non-starter no-collector, but epiphany'd of interest, single bad Goodwill shelf piece-holder(x1)/petty ebay auctioneer...All sad,,,All true. But I had no idea how these understandably exquisite and incredibly storied pieces of deep, deep antiquity would so completely and instantly capture my fullest fascination! And I am not generally given to fixation(especially at so seemingly random) on subjects so far removed from my typical main groups of interests. But enough, I'm sure, about me. You though, are a great resource for someone like me who is interested in learning and quickly becoming aware of the importance of an actual trustworthy voice that can be an authority and fact totem to help facilitate my personal journey of discovery in this. And I AM SEEING NO CHARGE as of yet for the already hours of the straight dope from your channel! 💪🤓👌 So that is why, once again, I thank you, Good Sir!
@lorriedmussett4692
@lorriedmussett4692 4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 My original favorite was..." Run for your life ! " Now its " Of course not...( pause ) Of course not !! " Add in the way you said it .....Haha that was great BTW...longer posted videos are a bit more exciting.
@PeterCombs
@PeterCombs 4 жыл бұрын
😁 glad you liked it...Best Peter
@lorriedmussett4692
@lorriedmussett4692 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man...i love you Peter!!! " Of course not....of course not!!" That was funny!!!!!
@joannietrotter2344
@joannietrotter2344 3 жыл бұрын
This is so informative... it's really tempting to bid on something that looks stunningly too good to be true when you're as green as the grass, like me lol. I rescued a beautifully painted large blue & white charger from a big bin (dumpster?), it's beautifully painted with funny googly -eyed bats around the rim and three wise looking men, it must have taken forever to paint. Alas it was broken into three big pieces but I practically climbed into the bottom of the dumpster to rescue it. It still has a piece missing but it's mainly all there after careful gluing. I cherish it because it came so close to being lost forever
@gloriahanes5338
@gloriahanes5338 3 жыл бұрын
It can still be repaired by a professional who restores ceramics.
@truefire1178
@truefire1178 4 жыл бұрын
As a more then twenty years of Chinese antiques collector, I 100% agree with Mr. Combs. He is the man to save the lives of Chinese art lovers who cheated by tones of fake “antiques” nowadays! Love you and thank you Mr. Combs!
@egjohanns
@egjohanns 4 жыл бұрын
Thank's ! 🌸😊
@PeterCombs
@PeterCombs 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@wmf1235
@wmf1235 3 жыл бұрын
thx for warning
@CaliforniaPickin
@CaliforniaPickin 4 жыл бұрын
RUN 4 YOUR LIFE ! Lol. Hi Peter, any opinion of Heritage Auctions? I know they do well with Rare Coins and Sports Memorabilia.
@PeterCombs
@PeterCombs 4 жыл бұрын
Heritage is good actually I think , Rick Cervantes (formerly at FREEMANS ) runs the Department. Heritage is a well run house, he and I have spoken a number of times over the years, he's a very good guy and quite bright. Best Peter (I liked your last few videos, always interesting stories)
@RichMitch
@RichMitch 4 жыл бұрын
Would you do some videos on the history of different porcelains? Different glazes, styles and fashions through the ages
@mikeharrington5593
@mikeharrington5593 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, weight & glazes for comparative pieces would be interesting. I have a blue & white with a very thick glaze, including a central glaze flow across the whole diameter of the base/foot with a Y-shape pooling at one side. What does this indicate? Also what is the significance of the small 1mm sized brown spots scattered around a base/foot?
@mikeharrington5593
@mikeharrington5593 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter for the sound advice It's a useful warning of the minefield out there for unwary speculative buyers because most won't have the specialist knowledge needed to verify provenance or to really know what they are buying. Caveat emptor.
@henryshockem9242
@henryshockem9242 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Pete, I recently watched one of ur vids on identifying porcelain goods that was awesome. After watching, I went to the auction site with those kids wearing the cheap Chicago gangster suits. U know the ones, they're on Live auctioneers.. So even for a beginner like me could see that every single item they put on the block was fake. Yeah I know, suprise suprise. So I just wanna say thanks for the education. I know it usually takes years to learn this stuff, and usually its the hard way. But you really nailed it, Thanks again, I shall now call you Teacher. Most respect and peace be with you.....
@Corinnasmusic
@Corinnasmusic 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree about not finding treasures in the boonies. Just recently I bought an Indian sculpture for $75 and am being hounded by museums for it as it's rare and worth 1000s. I've also bought a Han Dynasty head with all documentation and receipt of payment for $900 hidden in the box - for $20 at a flea market. The list goes on. It's my super power. I've been a magnet all of my life.
@PeterCombs
@PeterCombs 3 жыл бұрын
In house cleanouts and things like that it is much more likely to happen, but for major lots it's extremely rare. It can and does happen on less expensive things or none Chinese objects. best Peter
@Crossword131
@Crossword131 Жыл бұрын
He's not saying ONE thing or maybe two won't show up in the sticks, just that you won't have a wonderland of awesome at your bidding. If you find more than a couple things in an out-of-the-way auction, they're probably bunk. Good find!
@aminaa4436
@aminaa4436 3 жыл бұрын
Peter, j'adore vos vidéos, malheureusement je n'arrive pas à tout comprendre. Please, vous pouvez mettre les subtitles à vos vidéos pour que je puisse suivre. Mille merci d'avance
@bifeldman
@bifeldman 4 жыл бұрын
I suspect that when the winning bid says “competing” the object did not sell but was bought in by the house shill. LiveAuctioneers or other platform gets no cut other than the listing fee for the sale as a whole. Those marked “internet” bid probably did sell and tend to be modestly priced.
@jodyclark7527
@jodyclark7527 2 жыл бұрын
I look for the small win! I like to purchase clean examples of mid 20th century porcelains and even good stuff from the 1970's as buy to hold future antiques. Don't like stuff that is marked painted in Hong Kong though. Not looking for rare stuff. Just uncracked and well executed stuff.
@user-oo7nj9pb2s
@user-oo7nj9pb2s 4 жыл бұрын
Thank's would you please explain about last you mentioned auctioneer Pauling's 3items,0008,0042,0252.thank you
@PeterCombs
@PeterCombs 4 жыл бұрын
From what we can see, in that Paulings auction they placed in the sale piles of copies and reproductions of paintings by VERY famous artists as well as bronzes, jades and porcelains. They also put in a few legitimate items that are easily identifiable in the hope it will give credibility to the copies. People who have build up major collections do not consign them to Podunk nobody auction houses with giveaway estimates and low to non existent reserves..maybe once in a while a piece will turn up in some random sale, but NEVER large top end collections. If you had a Monet or a Picasso, would you consign it to Christie's NY or "Fred's Auction House" in in the middle of nowhere? You're going to Christie's of course, or Sotheby's, Phillips, Bonhams or Tajan Paris..Best Peter
@user-md9qk5gb9d
@user-md9qk5gb9d 3 жыл бұрын
I would suggest filtering the auction houses from LiveAuctioneers.
@gklpang
@gklpang 4 жыл бұрын
so true
@kastuszhukouski
@kastuszhukouski 3 жыл бұрын
Hello. Sorry. Please help to establish the author of the porcelain vase by the stamp and signature of the master. Thank you.
@TheFiown
@TheFiown 4 жыл бұрын
A question, given the enormous/gigantic amount of Asian porcelain on the net on one site or another and supposing that they are almost all fake ; WHO buys these pieces ? Is it people believing that they have found a treasure ?Is it people just wanting a pretty vase/bowl ? Is it people who buy on these sites to sell on using the auction site are provenence? There is so much of it out there. Why not just go straight to Jingdezhen China and buy direct and maybe see Something of the world!
@Rose39M
@Rose39M 4 жыл бұрын
Where can I find good information about Canton ware. I picked up a cup which looks older than any I've seen online. No handles. Bridges, mountains, trees, that don't look like bushy ferns. I paid a buck for it.
@MarkTulsa2024
@MarkTulsa2024 4 жыл бұрын
There is a great book on export ware called Made to Order by Daniel Nadler. I recently picked up a copy on Amazon for $31. Also, for $12, Peter himself will give you an online evaluation. bidamount.com/chinese-antiques-identification-assistant-services
@himalayanbeads5437
@himalayanbeads5437 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna meet you with my stuffs Peter.
@ytn00b3
@ytn00b3 2 жыл бұрын
There are a lot of fake copies or fake artefacts in China as well.
@dtrain5519
@dtrain5519 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is great but I must say Christie’s credibility is suspect after the Salvatore Mundi. This piece supposedly went through some of the best appraisers hands and now the Louvre says its not all DaVinci. Seems like they used they're "credibility " to make a cool 50 million in buyers premium.
@linhan9759
@linhan9759 4 жыл бұрын
You save a lot of people and their money
@chronicexposure3839
@chronicexposure3839 4 жыл бұрын
I bought what was estimated to be a $15,000 Han Dynasty, Hetian white jade, with nice Qin colour, nice carving--dragon on the axe, the meaning is Palace with Dragon. big size 16.9x8.5x1.4cm. I bid on it and got it for $240. Are you thinking what I'm thinking? Too bad I can't post a picture here but I got it off of Live auctions, Catherines Art Center out of Beijing China. I'm still waiting to receive it I believe the auction date was April 4th 2020. Thanks for all the great tips
@PeterCombs
@PeterCombs 4 жыл бұрын
If you bought it off a Mainland Chinese Shop, it is a modern example. It is and has been illegal to export Chinese antiques from China for decades. If they get caught doing it, the prison sentences are long, depending on the value of the object they can range form 2 to 15 years. A few years ago the CCP hung a man on the spot for doing it, literally on the side of the road when they found an early stone head in his truck. Not something any seller in China wants to mess around with, unless they are crazy. Best Peter
@chronicexposure3839
@chronicexposure3839 4 жыл бұрын
@@PeterCombs Jeez I've been taken! Wonderful to come across you... I searched under "invaluable"
@gloriahanes5338
@gloriahanes5338 3 жыл бұрын
Also, here in America the Asian collectors are familiar with the vintage pieces many pieces from China were exported to England. The rare pieces can still be found in England as these pieces were all the rage in the 18th and 19th Century.
@Crossword131
@Crossword131 Жыл бұрын
I've been very confused by the utter lack of description or detail in SO many auction results I've read. I thought I was getting the 'abstract' or the broad strokes version. Nope. That's how it was listed in the catalog. Can you imagine trusting anyone with your money based on virtually nothing?
@sofiareyes2949
@sofiareyes2949 2 жыл бұрын
Where can i buy original ones?
@PeterCombs
@PeterCombs 2 жыл бұрын
Keep an eye on the Bidamount.com News Letter page for something you like. Best Peter
@ElmarABusch
@ElmarABusch 3 жыл бұрын
Great and necessary educational video! The prices paid, if one only looks for a good decorative piece I.e. $800 for a piece, which if original would cost $300,000.-, is OK! But if you look for a hidden treasure, you are stupid!
@himalayanbeads5437
@himalayanbeads5437 3 жыл бұрын
“Use common sense’’ thank you.
@NIGHTNOTLOC
@NIGHTNOTLOC 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh if i had anything worth over a mil i probably wouldnt be worried about where to sell it lol
@daydreaminginventor-k8957
@daydreaminginventor-k8957 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god , I saw that Ru ware guy,
@kimlongsa285
@kimlongsa285 2 жыл бұрын
auction house are not to be totally trust, if a fake is sold the auction house will find a professional expert to be on their side.
@gloriahanes5338
@gloriahanes5338 3 жыл бұрын
A reasonably priced reproduction can be just as beautiful in the right setting rather than spending millions. Keep your money in the bank and love the pieces at a reasonable price so what if its a reproduction if its still a copy of a 17th Century Asian Art.
@PeterCombs
@PeterCombs 3 жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with buying a fabulously well done reproduction, not any worse than buying a bench made reproduction Chippendale Block Front Desk, just so long you're not being told it's authentic and paying a high price. Best Peter
@user-ss6kb8ls4e
@user-ss6kb8ls4e 3 жыл бұрын
Please leave the extra speech that it confuses when translating, only that old piece with evidence and signs, and that piece is forged with signs indicating only false, direct speech is brief and clear only ...، F .thanks .
@aloha2104
@aloha2104 4 жыл бұрын
If you are not familiar with Chinese art, don't buy it!.. As simple as that.
@CWROOFMASTER
@CWROOFMASTER Жыл бұрын
4:12
@jimpollard113
@jimpollard113 3 жыл бұрын
No great art in the Midwest? Be suspicious of Midwest dealers just because of where they live? Sounds like coastal bigotry toward "flyoverountry." For example, the world's largest collection of Impressionist paintings reside in the MIdwest - not New York or wherever this guy is from.
@PeterCombs
@PeterCombs 3 жыл бұрын
What I meant was, virtually no top notch Chinese material turns up in local auctions in the midwest, just as Monet's or Pisaro's virtually never turn up in regional auctions there. With regards to Chinese art, If something does turn up and is going to be sold, they head straight for NYC, Hong Kong or London typically, best Peter
@johnbruyn
@johnbruyn 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think I will collect china!!
@gloriahanes5338
@gloriahanes5338 3 жыл бұрын
John, buy what you like and pay less than $10 and you can't go wrong. I trust my instinct and never pay more than $20 on larger pieces, and I only buy the pieces I love.
@earlycuyler9729
@earlycuyler9729 4 жыл бұрын
I would propose not selling any Chinese items back to Chinese buyers or purchasing anything from Chinese vendors until that Country's CP admits to their egregious actions surrounding the current pandemic.Although it's not my intent to punish Chinese citizens in general, a boycott is one way to get the attention of the current ruling Party - leaders of the CCP need to be held accountable.
@Rose39M
@Rose39M 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter for another informative video!
@PeterCombs
@PeterCombs 4 жыл бұрын
Very welcome Rosemary! Best Peter
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