How Diamond Builds Composite Aircraft

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@bertfarin8755
@bertfarin8755 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, Paul, thank you for that video. Best factory tour I have ever taken. Kudos to all the Diamond reps who shared their expertise. My positive impression of Diamond went through the roof after watching that video. My favorite was that guy Jeff Smallwood. He made me feel confident to put my entire family aboard one of “his” planes. Actually, I’d still want a chute in my next plane, but Diamond sure impressed me with their “process” pronounced in their Canadian way.
@billr8667
@billr8667 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn't have said it better.
@MAGApepe
@MAGApepe 4 жыл бұрын
a chute is totally useless and meaningless,,, its only meant to sucker ppl into buying them,,,a descent rate under a chute is twice the rate of a diamond under full stall,,, plus it lands flat as a pancake causing more injuries than having a 40-50 kt forward component landing under stall without a chute
@quinncide
@quinncide 4 жыл бұрын
M - You’re either ignorant, misinformed or deliberately misinforming others. Either way your profile pic checks out.
@MAGApepe
@MAGApepe 4 жыл бұрын
@@quinncide are you a pilot ? ,, prove me wrong or are lame insults all you can do
@quinncide
@quinncide 4 жыл бұрын
M - I *am* actually a pilot, 25 years now. And no, I’m not going to waste any more time on you. Adios.
@Felix-bj9et
@Felix-bj9et 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved the "How to build a wing" with all its annotations! It was so much fun to watch
@cleburne-dfwseptic6843
@cleburne-dfwseptic6843 4 жыл бұрын
All the knowledge and materials involved At low volume tells one why an airplane is so expensive😉
@nunyabidness3075
@nunyabidness3075 4 жыл бұрын
B. E. Russell, Ding, ding, ding!
@namewitheld
@namewitheld 4 жыл бұрын
They're expensive because of lawyers and bad government. Don't kid yourself.
@BobABooey.
@BobABooey. 3 жыл бұрын
Its the time involved to get an aircraft certificated.
@Rehmaan
@Rehmaan 3 жыл бұрын
Engine and certification kid
@horvath14041984
@horvath14041984 4 жыл бұрын
All of these people were proper presenters, well executed plant tour
@georgewalker6883
@georgewalker6883 4 жыл бұрын
Paul is my favorite reporter in aviation, always interesting, informative, and of course entertaining. Thanks
@mrbillgoode
@mrbillgoode Жыл бұрын
Exactly, everything about that sweater and safety glasses screams old hippie aviation enthusiast but I also kept wondering what brand of dentures he's wearing. It looks very well tucked and hidden. I also think there's a market opportunity in the geriatric class for stylish dentures. What could be more awesome than DA40 engraved dentures or a Lycoming swoosh.
@Kevin-yc4pl
@Kevin-yc4pl 4 жыл бұрын
I live 40 minutes from the Diamond plant in London, Ontario and always wanted to see inside it. Now I have.
@NETBotic
@NETBotic 4 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine life without youtube lol.
@rolandocrisostomo2003
@rolandocrisostomo2003 4 жыл бұрын
I live 5 minutes away from a prison, I don't feel the same way.
@McStebb
@McStebb 3 жыл бұрын
After seeing how much scrutiny and fine attention to detail goes into these airplanes, I begin to appreciate why they cost a million bucks.
@ApprendreLangues
@ApprendreLangues 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Paul, for coming up to Ontario for this video. Your Canadian fans appreciate it. :-)
@jasonpb27
@jasonpb27 4 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to have flown the DA20, DA40 and DA42 during my training and always enjoyed flying them, so great watching a video on how they're built.
@hudsoncraftworks
@hudsoncraftworks 4 жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic walkthrough. Thank you so much for taking the time to share this with us and thanks to Diamond for allowing us to see so much behind the scenes.
@junhotae1479
@junhotae1479 4 жыл бұрын
I weekly fly those aircrafts and it was amazing vid to actually look how those composite processes were done on these aircrafts. Now I know a fun fact that the nose gear is not completely centered
@Habu12
@Habu12 4 жыл бұрын
I'm about to start my MEI training in a DA-42NG. Dig it! Thanks for the vid!
@Ringele5574
@Ringele5574 4 жыл бұрын
12:30..... measuring efficiency is not about keeping quality consistent or at a high level. It is about pushing the employees to work as fast as they can with as few mistakes as possible. Often times that leads to a lower quality product being pushed out the door because people are watching the "efficiency clock".
@davidGrainger
@davidGrainger 3 жыл бұрын
placement of thick orange wire in front of computer monitor seen at 13:07 - not so efficient.
@joemeyer6876
@joemeyer6876 4 жыл бұрын
That Was A Great Presentation!
@publicmail2
@publicmail2 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic airplanes, I flew them for 20 years, hopefully this company will be more profitable in future.
@MisFakapek
@MisFakapek 2 жыл бұрын
Looking at their production systems? They will be eaten alive with so many inefficiencies. They were acquired by Chinese company back in 2017, this video was done in 2020 so I'm assuming that things started to change there already.
@markdavis2475
@markdavis2475 4 жыл бұрын
Great episode thanks! What an amazing history the factory has! Nicely done graphics! They look like they are building bix Airfix planes! I'm not a flyer but now I'm convinced that if I ever wanted a plane it would be from Diamond!
@ayatal-saaidi147
@ayatal-saaidi147 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Sally! Looking good in the video!! Keep those Harnesses coming!! 👍😊
@SHiro-le5fc
@SHiro-le5fc 4 жыл бұрын
A wonderful factory. It is the same backward as glider. I am currently considering purchasing a DA62. It was very helpful.
@DarrylZubot
@DarrylZubot 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting they put static wicks on these. I have a pipistrel and it is all composite, no wicks and no issues with static buildup. Nice looking factory, great video.
@NDCDA62
@NDCDA62 4 жыл бұрын
A very nice presentation Paul. I am so delighted with my DA62 - just brilliant, best in class and, above all, SAFE !!
@cmack864
@cmack864 4 жыл бұрын
Great review and tour Paul! I’ve got around 100 hours in a da40 and it’s a wonderful airplane to fly. My short list also includes a da62 (maybe one day).
@clydecessna737
@clydecessna737 4 жыл бұрын
One of the most interesting videos from this channel. Thank you.
@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk
@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk 4 жыл бұрын
You can see why some manufacturers prefer metal. Composite manufacturing looks very involved to me yet guess modern performance expectation demands its use. I never knew there was a machine that loaded resin onto fibre sheet on demand and just thought they bought it in pre-preged and kept it in a fridge. What was most noticeable to me was the lack of robots which makes a nice change to see in an advanced manufacturing facility.
@luccalus
@luccalus 3 ай бұрын
Nice video -- great visuals and great commentary!
@SimonHollandfilms
@SimonHollandfilms 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely aircraft....thanks Paul and AV web team.
@reelchristianfishin7397
@reelchristianfishin7397 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Really get to understand how Diamond has been so successful.
@watashiandroid8314
@watashiandroid8314 4 жыл бұрын
The comments at the bottom left of the blueprint part were great! Lol 😂 Great video, awesome content!
@keithskillz90210
@keithskillz90210 4 жыл бұрын
That animation tho! Love it. And I want one of those fiber impregnating machines!
@quinncide
@quinncide 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently the animator didn’t love making it though! 3:43
@brucekemp2578
@brucekemp2578 2 жыл бұрын
This is quite interesting. It is good to see the quality control checks that are involved. Composites are light weight but there should be testing in place to ensure the quality of the manufacturing process.
@alext8828
@alext8828 3 жыл бұрын
Top-notch animation and graphics.
@johnhardwicke7517
@johnhardwicke7517 4 жыл бұрын
Cool Vid, and hello from Production at Diamond Austria ✈️♦️♥️🍺
@Chris-mk5tp
@Chris-mk5tp Жыл бұрын
hey, nice video, and I can see many people I worked with in 2016-2017, was exhausting but good then, best regards from Germany
@nickschmitz841
@nickschmitz841 4 жыл бұрын
I have seen these aircraft in Vancouver and thought they looked somewhat fragile with the thin fuselage but I am definitely mistaken after watching this video. What an impressive airplane.
@mitchalwaggoner1648
@mitchalwaggoner1648 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful craft.
@mattj65816
@mattj65816 4 жыл бұрын
Touch one and compare the feel to that of a legacy aircraft (Cessna, Piper, etc.) The feel is noticeably sturdier. It feels like one, single, solid object.
@nunyabidness3075
@nunyabidness3075 4 жыл бұрын
They are many times stronger than aluminum monocoque craft like Cessna and Beech. I spoke to a retired pilot who was hit from above on final approach and dropped from 400 ft to crash. He had a sore wrist because he broke the stick (it’s designed to break just that way!) and some bruises. The pilot that hit him was in a basic aluminum fuselage, broke many bones and was hospitalized. The Diamond was repaired and put back on the line. The other aircraft was literally a pile of bent metal. Also, an early DA20 was landed upside down due to wake turbulence with similar results!
@bobninemire6859
@bobninemire6859 4 жыл бұрын
Another Excellent Production Paul !! Great Job !!!
@emersonguimaraes8811
@emersonguimaraes8811 4 жыл бұрын
Is very amazing, see these process of fabrication of Diamond.
@alexandersheppard1997
@alexandersheppard1997 4 жыл бұрын
I learned to fly in a 1998 DA20. Still one of the most fun, nimble planes I have flown.
@publicmail2
@publicmail2 4 жыл бұрын
There's a reason the SR22 has a fatal accident rate 5x's and sky high insurance rates over the DA-40. And it has a parachute for the entire plane. Can you say side sticks? The DA-40 is about a perfect as you can get, maybe a jet chute option?
@mikeanjor9079
@mikeanjor9079 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Paul I love your videos and I hope one day you will get that red da62
@UraFlight
@UraFlight 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting report from the factory
@stevenflattum156
@stevenflattum156 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome as usual great work I enjoy your videos! And hummer in other places.
@matthewmillar3804
@matthewmillar3804 4 жыл бұрын
That was a spectacular video! So interesting to see a plane made, especially a composite one.
@ben3989
@ben3989 4 жыл бұрын
Really well done video! Super impressed.
@jomomma8754
@jomomma8754 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, that wire stripping machine is straight from heaven.
@santanubose1653
@santanubose1653 4 жыл бұрын
Love the channel , specially to see how its made. Wonderful vid.
@saml7610
@saml7610 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome animations, really simplifies the understanding of the whole process. Great video overall, thank you for posting this.
@williamvan909
@williamvan909 3 жыл бұрын
Out standing videos 👍👍👍😊 thanks for the info and the idea to building these are great 👍👍 take care stay safe down there 👍 everyone.
@joedowning1434
@joedowning1434 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Thank you for sharing!
@robertbolding4182
@robertbolding4182 2 жыл бұрын
cool no vacuum infusion, just vac bagging or prepreg. I love that idea. so simple yet elegant. that vac bagging is for consolidation only so it so simple
@mitchellroberts7954
@mitchellroberts7954 4 жыл бұрын
How I would love to own one of those beautiful aircraft..
@engineeringeveryday
@engineeringeveryday 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Very resourceful🙏
@llwellyn1
@llwellyn1 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Paul. I really enjoyed the editing, hidden humor, visual aids, and process information. In particular, it was great to learn about the anti-static chemical they spray on the wings during the paint process. That , and how they test for PASS/FAIL of that static electricity wicking system. I always thought they must have had some kind of metallic mesh woven into the composite, or something. Learning about the avionics wiring and test equipment was also very interesting. Keep up the good work ! If I could choose the next topic, I would select cockpit window technology. How has the testing process ( chicken cannons ) , materials, and construction of the forward windows evolved over the years? Can they withstand bird strikes any better ?? Are they stronger and lighter ? Is it all about the same as of a particular date ? Curious minds want to know......:)
@chadn8186
@chadn8186 Жыл бұрын
I figured out who Paul reminds me of. It’s Lt. Dangle from Reno 911. I can’t stop thinking about this now. You’re welcome.
@gusbisbal9803
@gusbisbal9803 4 жыл бұрын
2:45 Peel ply is a releasing layer so that you can remove the breather and resin dispersion mesh easily. Why would you put peel ply in between the carbon fibre and the fibre glass? That makes no sense!
@ScramLoot2
@ScramLoot2 4 жыл бұрын
I worked for Diamond in engineering. This is definitely an error in the animation because we certainly never did this for any lay-up. As the original comment said, it makes no sense. Edit: we also put peel ply in areas where something will be bonded as it leaves a rough surface finish!
@diamondaircraftindaustria5549
@diamondaircraftindaustria5549 4 жыл бұрын
You're absolutely right and the explanation at 2:45 is simply wrong. The peel ply sits as top layer under the perforated vacuum film. :)
@michaelhoffmann2891
@michaelhoffmann2891 2 жыл бұрын
This was astonishing: I would have expected automation and robotics at some stages, but no, it's hand-crafting all the way. Also answered a question I posted elsewhere: can they be delivered in containers, instead of ferrying, with wings/engines off and the whole craft in a container and assembled at destination. The answer seems to be no because the wings are really "fused" with the fuselage.
@ingramleedy
@ingramleedy 2 жыл бұрын
Wings are removable - they are not fused, but bolted. There is a small rubber gasket that protects the seam. I don't know the process of disassembly and assembly and the economics of it, but it can be done.
@michaelhoffmann2891
@michaelhoffmann2891 2 жыл бұрын
@@ingramleedy Thanks for that! Now all I need is the lottery win so I can personally evaluate the cost of disassembled shipment and ferry flight! 😆
@ingramleedy
@ingramleedy 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhoffmann2891 I did my instrument training in a DA40 NG and got spoiled! I absolutely loved it and I cannot go back to anything lessor. I put in an order for one, 12 months out ... Gives you time to save. :-) Im sure its easier to ferry the aircraft to wherever you are -- This link has Mike Lang who does it for Diamond, some cool adventure videos kzbin.info
@forgottenautos8461
@forgottenautos8461 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, AVweb! I'm not a pilot, but I enjoy watching your videos! Do a review of the Flaris LAR01 - those single jets are so cool!
@angelos8958
@angelos8958 4 жыл бұрын
Hello and thank you for this excellent video. There is something wrong here or i dont get it. Check the wing laminate starting 2:38. It shows that they add peel ply between the laminate layers. Why is that ? They dont want the layers to adhere together ?
@اميرالظلام-ج4ب
@اميرالظلام-ج4ب 2 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic... Thanks diamond
@Weitian0828
@Weitian0828 4 жыл бұрын
You think all of the people watching this won't notice 3:43? . Look at the lower left. 🤣🤣🤣 . I love it though. Very informative, and Diamond makes good aircraft.
@hannesaltenfelder4302
@hannesaltenfelder4302 4 жыл бұрын
Smart way to argue with the boss. Lol.
@Weitian0828
@Weitian0828 4 жыл бұрын
Smart way indeed! Lol
@dalecomer5951
@dalecomer5951 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was poorly done. The main reason I watched this video was to learn about composite construction. The video just kinda skips thru it.
@ozziepilot2899
@ozziepilot2899 4 жыл бұрын
That was fascinating thanks for posting this.
@VikingsFan27
@VikingsFan27 4 жыл бұрын
You make awesome videos. Well done!
@superchargedpetrolhead
@superchargedpetrolhead 4 жыл бұрын
if they add a cabin pressurization on the da62 it will be perfect and will be the ultimate GA piston aircraft money can buy.
@christophermichaelson9050
@christophermichaelson9050 3 жыл бұрын
That plus autothrottle, autoland, and a BRS parachute haha
@SSURAJ-rd9ee
@SSURAJ-rd9ee 2 жыл бұрын
Hello all, Regarding the wing manufacturing i understand that first the lower wing skin is layed up, compacted using vacuum bag and precured. Then the ribs and spar are placed and again precured, then the upper skin is laid up and precured. Doesn't the upper skin also need compaction? Also if the upper and lower skin are seperate don't they form a rough surface or a joining mark on the wing skin which is not desirable?
@williamhoward4384
@williamhoward4384 4 жыл бұрын
GREAT coverage of the process... Can you imagine that detail in the Ford Factory making B-24s?
@machinesandthings7121
@machinesandthings7121 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid, more like this please!
@stevet5629
@stevet5629 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, excellent show
@wkdravenna
@wkdravenna 4 жыл бұрын
Is Paul a licensed journalist in Canada? That's a great report.
@No4murasame
@No4murasame 4 жыл бұрын
Wait, why is there a peel ply between the carbon and the glass at 2:47? Shouldn’t it be before the carbon and/or after the glass?
@diamondaircraftindaustria5549
@diamondaircraftindaustria5549 4 жыл бұрын
The explanation at 2:47 is wrong. The peel ply is the top layer under the perforated vacuum film. :)
@stealhty1
@stealhty1 4 жыл бұрын
Wow , thx for the tour
@LS8eighteen
@LS8eighteen 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Paul, a brief reference to how composite glider manufacturers have developed all of the molded parts construction from the 1960's on would have been helpful. Modern gliders are made in the very same way and were the forerunners of this impressive technology.
@TheJacobshapiro
@TheJacobshapiro 4 жыл бұрын
Paul, I would be interested to see a comparison of Diamond and Cirrus in terms of safety. Both are makers of high-tech composite light aircraft, and both pride themselves on safety. Cirrus takes the approach of having an airframe parachute, optional FIKI, and very sophisticated avionics, while Diamond simply focuses on building a plane with very safe handling characteristics and a very crashworthy cabin.
@AndyRRR0791
@AndyRRR0791 3 жыл бұрын
WTAF is going on with cable management at 13:07...?
@ryangee7354
@ryangee7354 4 жыл бұрын
I hit subscribe because of this video. Amazing work!
@alfredocalpito9439
@alfredocalpito9439 4 жыл бұрын
Can they impregnate a carbon fiber in the shell for extra crash protection like having a roll cage ??? I’m looking and shopping around.
@djatnikasaleh2218
@djatnikasaleh2218 4 жыл бұрын
The questions is: how strong the composite material than allumunium & life time? How heavy allumunium or composit ..... tks
@christophermichaelson9050
@christophermichaelson9050 3 жыл бұрын
Composite is stronger and lighter. A composite airframe should be good for at least 20,000 hours.
@NETBotic
@NETBotic 4 жыл бұрын
DA-62 is my dream airplane.
@berkylmaz6654
@berkylmaz6654 4 жыл бұрын
such an amazing video. thanks a lot
@jameshiggins5573
@jameshiggins5573 4 жыл бұрын
That was plain awesome very interesting
@juansebastianaraque3646
@juansebastianaraque3646 4 жыл бұрын
4:19 Workers jamming to hot tunes lmao
@billhart9832
@billhart9832 4 жыл бұрын
It was a very revealing plant tour, though I'm sure some of their "secret sauce" was edited out. It seems like a nice environment to work in, but I thought I'd see more masks considering the "sanding, a lot of sanding".
@reggielavoie5260
@reggielavoie5260 4 жыл бұрын
Bodymen are a different breed, there would be times im grinding fiberglass with no shirt on, not at that plant of course..
@peachtrees27
@peachtrees27 4 жыл бұрын
You've got the best job in the world.
@nraynaud
@nraynaud 4 жыл бұрын
is a welded aluminium tank safer than a blow-molded HDPE one that they use in the automotive industry? it feel that having a big elongation at break is an advantage.
@R2robot
@R2robot 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to have a DA-62!
@TechnoComposites
@TechnoComposites 4 жыл бұрын
Great work!
@Vgk36
@Vgk36 Жыл бұрын
Do all these guys have their A&P Certs?
@hzmeister9596
@hzmeister9596 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm kind of surprised there is so much fiberglass and wet layup. I would have thought there would be more prepreg in huge autoclaves.. but I guess that would be too expensive..
@gusbisbal9803
@gusbisbal9803 4 жыл бұрын
iTs also unnecessary. Carbon fibre is best used when your pushing the design geometry to the limit. Strong fibre glass mesh with high quality epoxys produce incredibly strong composites and at a much lower cost. CF is a little like titanium. Have a look at the strength to weight ratio of Chromoly and titanium it ain't that different but its not as sexy as titanium so people use ti to people be interested in the product.
@hzmeister9596
@hzmeister9596 4 жыл бұрын
@@gusbisbal9803 If profit margins weren't an issue and they wanted the best performance possible, you can be sure they wouldn't be using fiberglass. good carbon fiber is over 2x as strong as fiberglass... also, while pure titanium may have the same specific strength as CrMo, titanium alloys can be over 3x better... not to mention it has many other properties than can be more favorable in certain applications.
@gusbisbal9803
@gusbisbal9803 4 жыл бұрын
@@hzmeister9596 how much more do the titanium alloys cost than CrMo? Can you answer that? In relation to the fibre glass. If profit margins were not an issue they would be using two jet turbines instead of props. Diamond aircraft is not an artisan workshop where art is their objective and if they make nothing if does not matter. Every single material choice ever made is based off of cost versus return.
@londonairbrush
@londonairbrush 3 жыл бұрын
4:20 Is it music?
@essendavis
@essendavis 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve probably watched this 4 times since it was published. Lol.
@DC.
@DC. 4 жыл бұрын
The DA40 is a really great airplane to fly.
@AirspotterUK
@AirspotterUK 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed that, thanks
@abubakeralbaity4990
@abubakeralbaity4990 3 жыл бұрын
That's what's my lovely works .... creative
@44hawk28
@44hawk28 2 жыл бұрын
I do realize that diamond star has gone a long way to reduce the incidence of engine out occurrences. I cannot figure out for the life of me, and if you could get this as an explanation and perhaps to a video on it it would be greatly appreciated, at least by myself, why in the world put counter rotating props on the da 62. It is not that hard to make an engine run opposite direction. I've done it with Chevy small blocks for marine applications.
@stivi739
@stivi739 9 күн бұрын
All u guys should be happy and proud to work in such an industry..in australia we can't even build a toaster
@joeypadgett7895
@joeypadgett7895 4 жыл бұрын
Oh...MY...GAWD...12:05. As a former 2M Tech aboard a navy ship, this makes me extremely jelly
@richardjooste4636
@richardjooste4636 3 жыл бұрын
A few more Da42s and 20s getting shipped from New Zealand soon soon! They in the process of getting dismantled 😭
@zapfanzapfan
@zapfanzapfan 4 жыл бұрын
Take away message: Even a small and simple aircraft is not so simple...
@WowRodg
@WowRodg 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, I really like this one
@danfrederiksen1607
@danfrederiksen1607 7 ай бұрын
Always interesting to see. I know it's common to do composite as two shells but isn't all the massive manual labor and weakness of the coupling much harder than to simply make the fuselage as one? you'd need some rigging to do layout inside a closed mold but to me it is obviously worth it. It's faster, stronger, lighter. Also carbon fiber. It's easily pays for itself.
@danielcockerspaniel
@danielcockerspaniel 4 жыл бұрын
No core pan downs for internals? 🤔
@djwashx
@djwashx 2 жыл бұрын
great video!!!!!!!!!
@eaglezxz3354
@eaglezxz3354 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck with what you are doing....personally for the rest of my life i will be trusting oldschool analog teck .I must say i would very much like a pair of supercub wings built with carbon fiber. Very cool built in CAN.guys.
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