ṢAW 4 (2007) MOVIE REACTION!! - First Time Watching!

[@RaggedyPack]

May the 4th be with you! 🪚🪚🪚🪚 This one was a lot a fun! Looking forward to watching the rest of the franchise! Full length reaction available on our Patreon www.patreon.com/collection/492382 Come hang out in our Discord discord.gg/HQFtGkCf37

[@preminsta8630]

🤮 Jigsaw/John's autopsy (sawing through skull, slicing through chest, and breaking rib cage open, all with yucky sound effects, in close-up with much blood).🤮

[@soyyothaking]

I promise you guys make it to at least saw 6 it will be totally worth it !! Saw 6 is by far the best !!!

[@jeto3557]

Pew pew 👾 may the 4th be with you as well 😊

[@jenny_lee_87]

Would love a reaction to Hostel 💜

[@shawn7257]

I liked the fact that Cecil's trap didn't work perfectly. It was John's first try and things didn't go as planned, but it sets up all the future traps & explains why he's now so detail oriented. None of his traps failed after that one...he improved and adjusted.

[@alexinator-hh5fe]

Even in death, John will always know how to read people. The shade he throws is immaculate and the backup plans to his backup plans never end

[@ZorcTheDarkOnex]

If Jeff and Riggs swapped tests, everyone would have lived. Riggs would have saved all of Jeff's people. And Jeff would fail to save any of Riggs' people and thus save everyone.

[@nilesstark]

Fun Fact: They did film an alternate ending where Rigg approaches the Final Test. But to show that Rigg had learned from this game, he doesn't go through the door. He basically let's them try to save themselves. BUT Art fails to release them when timer goes out and Rigg has to watch Eric and Art die. Also in this ending, Hoffman still gets up and walks out the door to lean in and whisper something to Rigg that causes Rigg to jaw drop in shock. Rigg then collects himself, gets up to give chase after Hoffman. But he runs into Agent Strahm instead both of them have their guns drawn at each other and fire at each other. The film would then cut to black leaving their fates open ended.

[@Adrianne519]

I honestly would have loved that ending way more! Rigg should have lived and he could have continued the series, it would have been great to see him and Strahm work together! They needed a good protagonist and every time they got one they killed them off, like Strahm was such a good foil for Hoffman.

[@corriescrivener1937]

I'm so glad you're continuing this series. Some people get bored after John dies. Basically, some people wish it was a trilogy But I kind of like how they kept it going for a while.

[@Jeptheplay]

they need to see them faster.

[@corriescrivener1937]

@@Jeptheplay I think they're watching it at a perfect speed. They watch one film every 5 days.

[@Lauren-zx3gx]

Tbf it’s because you can tell there’s a bit of a disconnect between the first three, that were kind of written as a trilogy, and the rest. And it’s because James Wan and Leigh Whannell.

[@corriescrivener1937]

@@Lauren-zx3gx I can understand that. The First Trilogy is about John. the second Trilogy was about Hoffman i mean 7 films lol

[@Artmoreralph]

The director actually said they regret killing john kramer

[@gr1mreap3rz15]

strahm being such an intense bastard that he's immediately suspected despite being the most hellbent on finding the newest jigsaw apprentice is kinda why i love him tbh lmao. sometimes you gotta fight crazy with crazy

[@viratyadav2213]

I hate what Saw V did to him. The whole series would have been so good if Hoffman somehow managed to frame Strahm and the next few movies were a cat and mouse game between Strahm, Jill and Hoffman. ffs They had one decent character that they could have throughout the franchise but they killed him off like that.

[@Morbidhouse]

The guy who got angry at cecil in the hospital flashback scene was the guy from the second movie who got shot through the eye. These movies are full of cool little easter eggs like that.

[@JessLoveyy]

Ooh never even knew that

[@R935A]

24:45 but yea I didn't know this either! Cool find

[@ChrisMovieMisfit]

There's a lot of people at the clinic, especially. Gus from Saw II punches Cecil Addison from Saw II is outside talking to John in the car. Donnie (the guy Amanda had to get the key from his stomach) and Paul (the Barbed Wire Maze) are leaving the clinic together. Troy (The man in chains in Saw III) is in the background at the clinic while John and Jill are talking. And there's plenty more throughout the franchise!

[@spinba11]

@@ChrisMovieMisfitObi (the guy who got cooked) in 2 in in the background of the flashback with John and Jill in 3

[@ChrisMovieMisfit]

@@spinba11 Also true.

[@Mrs.Garrison69]

The whole movie, except the scenes in the autopsy room, are a flash back.

[@marklouis1890]

Introduction to Detective Hoffman. An important piece

[@VAVORiAL]

2nd best character of the franchise imo

[@BigFactss_]

@@VAVORiAL after Amanda

[@theunknownuser9609]

His introduction was in the previous movie in truth. It was just a very short scene in the beginning.

[@invizzy]

@@theunknownuser9609 yup he was at the classroom trap and said kinda suspisous "all he had to do was..."

[@anapaulavv22]

And the most horrible character

[@brandoncameron2686]

Don't get me wrong, I love a good female villain. But Amanda Young wouldn't have had the physical strength to do some of the things that were required in the Saw franchise. So it made sense that a guy like Hoffman was a part of Jigsaw's "crew". Jigsaw (specifically John Cramer) would have needed someone with more physical strength than Amanda Young to carry out his plans. Plus Hoffman brings the police expertise. He knows a thing or two about forensic science and how to get away with crimes.

[@nilesstark]

Fun Fact 2: The opening of the film was originally written as another alternate ending for Saw 3.

[@Cinemaniac81]

The man that claps Cecil in the clinic was the guy that got shot in the eye looking through the key hole in saw 2.

[@ChrisMackTalks]

Saw 3 and 4 are happening at the same time.

[@doctorwooga]

I’m glad that this one also shows how the pig mask came to be as well. It was the zodiac animal for when his unborn child died.

[@tl1110]

Pretty proud of Blake tonight. Somebody get that man a cookie 🤣🤣🤣

[@leviwheeler4114]

Oil after his nausea wears off 😂

[@henriquejambu]

19:38 this is my favorite transition in the saw franchise and the behind the scenes of how they did it practically is so good!

[@Lifenotfound11]

SAME

[@jacoblofthus7908]

In this installment, we start to dig deeper into who John Kramer is. Both figuratively and literally.😅

[@kyleanderik6627]

Saw IV is actually really underrated and really good

[@TheAmazingAdam]

Mark Hoffman is one of my favorite villains. Keep on watching :D. Strahm is GREAT and he has the smarts. The perfect match against Hoffman. Love this franchise and 6 is such a banger. 5 is really good too.

[@Silphiroth]

You wouldn't think that a movie labeled "dumb torture porn" by many people requires it, but a rewatch of Saw IV is HIGHLY recommended. Its a very convoluted plot actually. Also, I wonder when you guys started to realize that that was Hoffmann in the trap this whole time. I had the feeling all of you thought its a random dude, but maybe I am wrong xD

[@gje3]

I now look forward to this every Saturday! Welcome to the Hoffman era, boys!

[@markwebster7435]

While the movie takes liberties with emotions and realism, Jeff’s character is to show the utter self destruction some people feel by a tragic loss. His whole life was torn apart by the death of his son, compounded then by the driver’s light sentence. The break up of his marriage. Torn by wanting vengeance he could see nothing else. Forced by John to face destruction or forgiveness.

[@shoyohinata3462]

I think his marriage wasn't broken yet though, maybe rocky... But I don't think anything had been finalized prior to the game

[@thebwoods15]

Sorry for such a late reply. So Jeff is basically the same as John, isn't he? They both lost their sons because of another person. Both of them hated their son's killer and wanted them to pay. So I guess John thought he could fix Jeff, because he basically went through the same thing.

[@leeloo2071]

Guys, here’s a list of a few great movies for you to watch: - 28 days later - Black Swan - The hunger games movies - Orphan - Juno - REC (Spanish movie, watch it with subtitles) - The Impossible - Society of the Snow (it’s in Spanish as well, make sure to watch it with subtitles) -Insidious movies (especially 1 and 2) - Scary movie saga (they are spoofs and so stupid but funny) -World War Z - The Hangover - Superbad - Mean Girls - The Notebook - Back to the future - Eurotrip - Grown Ups - The Karate Kid saga (1980s movies) - Whiplash - The princess bride - Crazy Stupid Love (so good) - Child’s Play - Mamma Mia

[@Nexidal]

I know it's because it's a movie, but why didn't anyone just say fuck this and leave the city? I mean, if a local serial killer was targeting all my colleagues I'd be gone yesterday.

[@Mrs.Garrison69]

YESS😂😂 THIS IS WHAT SAW IS, A MINDBENDING SOAP OPERA

[@lilgreentealeaf]

Something I really appreciated about the movies (at least the early ones) were the practical effects. I would spend hours watching behind the scenes stuff. The entire body during the autopsy was all practical effects to make it as realistic as possible which is just great imo.

[@darsonpark8608]

"You can just shoot the hair" made me laugh out loud haha

[@juniorlks1]

Welcome to Saw's soap opera phase. It is AH-MAZING! And yes, the story in Saw 3 and 4 took place at the same time. This is just the first time-bending moment from many more to come. Can't wait to see your reactions to the final trap in 5, it is BRUTAL.

[@ReelPiscesPlays]

That is how they do autopsies. You guys should play mortuary assistant 😂

[@langdonledwig3734]

I like this movies twist that it takes place at the same time as 3 except for the autopsy of John

[@talkingstarwars]

that's a dummy body at the beginning the actor that plays Hoffman thought that was really the guy that plays John lol

[@TheoriginalMach2000]

Every Jeff who knows Blake is questioning their friendship now

[@5ohnnyfive]

I came for the reactions, I stayed for Blakes gag reflexes and dry heaving!

[@Seb4041]

When I first saw Manifest I instantly recognized her from Saw 😂

[@randylahey1822]

Blake been looking hella stressed out during most time of these movies 😆

[@NapolianDynamite-lr4hg]

You guys are the best so positive and such good chemistry even though you haven’t all met up a bunch, i hope to see a horror reaction with everyone together 1 day, i don’t love the franchise in my opinion the first few are good then it doesn’t get good again till 10 but it’s fun watching Blake struggle through it, so close to a quarter of 100k, 25k here you come.

[@radioactive_moose]

When Cecil fell in the razor box, I found that really funny for some reason.

[@tbrrrdmn]

Side note... The guy from the beginning with his mouth sewn shut is the captain of the Black Ship from Shogun.

[@bklynkat23]

What I always wonder with these Saw movies is, how does no one see the traps being set up? Like in this one literally had a trap set up in a school. So he had to drag multiple bodies in there as well as all the equipment needed to set up the tracks and nobody noticed?!?

[@spinba11]

In 3 we see the bathroom being setup

[@rodgill9376]

Rigg’s tests is quite surprisingly more simple and straightforward than most would have you believe. The whole point of Rigg’s tests is not only to let go but also let people save themselves by themselves. All he had to do was literally NOTHING. While Rigg is not a totally bad or evil individual, he is no different than Eric or Jeff. He’s just as impulsive as Eric and he’s just as reckless as Jeff. You’d think that he’d learn from his mistakes after being told numerous times not to go into areas that he’s not supposed to go to but no. He doesn’t listen and he got his best friend killed. Rigg is by far one of the dumbest characters of the series. You wanna root for him to win but he doesn’t make shit easy. He’s a very frustrating character.

[@esorenilegnave]

Basically, Riggs and Slow a$$ mf Jeff needed to switch their speeds/mindset and they both would have been fine.

[@rodgill9376]

@@esorenilegnave facts!

[@Adrianne519]

The problem I have with it though is how do you tell someone to go home when they literally see their friend & colleague who has been missing for who knows how long strung up and in danger? Of course he's going to help him, clearly he couldn't help himself. He's also a cop, it's kind of his job to save people.

[@rodgill9376]

@@Adrianne519 as his wife pointed out, he can’t always save everyone. If he would had just left with her, he would not had been targeted and he’d be still alive. But unfortunately, his nature ended up being his undoing. Again, the whole point of his test was to do nothing and let people save themselves by themselves alone. Rigg was just not a smart dude sadly.

[@boredperson7248]

“The manifesto is kinda cookin” is a WILD quote

[@87jcksn]

Saw 4 said we need crazy transition, lol. The glass on was nuts!

[@tparkerevans7165]

Franchise Ranking Up To Now: 1. Saw II (4.5/5)) 2. Saw III (4.5/5) 3. Saw (4/5) 4. Saw IV (3.5/5)

[@KingChrisXX]

The thing i never understood was that Tapp was seconds away from completing every trap, no? With all the time he wasted helping everyone.....he still had enough time to reach Eric. That dude was dying either way, no matter how much time went by, it seems.

[@Namelessstew]

I think you mean Riggs, Tapp is from the first saw movie. Also the point of his game was for him to not go into the room. Eric and Art die because he refuses to listen to the lesson jigsaw was trying to teach. Which was stop rushing to be the first to save people and let people save themselves.

[@R935A]

Once you guys get to Saw X, remember that there's a post credit scene!

[@anelsatxlife]

The actor who plays Jeff plays a great Robert the Bruce in Braveheart.

[@dudeguys6362]

The actor who played Jeff killed it. Just an annoying character. It wasn't the actor.

[@aniharutyunyan3625]

I don't know why I loved watching these movies when i was like 12-14

[@Random-mj5np]

I loved straahm, he was very smart, antijigsaw, too bad they killed him off. wish he would have been in each film

[@ch30ris.39]

I'm ready to see blake's faces and screams

[@_Omega_Weapon]

A few others to consider, Hell House LLC and Grave Encounters (both pretty good found footage), The Autopsy of Jane Doe and Event Horizon.

[@BrianZatzke]

“Piense que si” “I don’t speak French.” Had me dying. 😂 I’m surprised Blake didn’t say it’s not French.

[@bernardjohnsonii8388]

The last ten minutes of each Saw movie were so hyped in the theatres growing up seeing what could have been done differently for survival. To your point that Riggs is a cop and that changing his format to take action can’t be undone in 90 mins. Great reactions guys!!

[@alss_sensitiva5167]

Saw is Not for who can't bear to look gore or blood... I love this franchise❤️

[@Spectreffex]

Nothing like opening a movie with a nice gooey autopsy, right? It's really nicely executed though tbh. Rigg was supposed to learn from Eric's mistake from Saw 2!! "Remember who you're saving" on the last notecard is the Jigsaw way of saying "Eric didn't wait patiently, look at how that turned out for him. Maybe you should learn something" lol. The Fatal Five are next! Let's keep this party going!

[@tzichigamer8291]

That hair scalping trap was the most brutal scene for me, it was so brutal that I would skip it every time I watch this movie with my friends.

[@dudeguys6362]

I always liked 2, 4, 5 and 6 more than 3, but I thought I was crazy. I'm glad you guys made me feel better lol

[@Random-mj5np]

loved the creative transitions in this movie

[@bencampsall8563]

Fun fact, the AMC Theater in Framingham MA showed the autopsy scene at the start of this movie instead of Bee Movie

[@araej9293]

"Someone cooked here" Obi from saw 2: am I nothing to you???

[@annawehmeyer]

So glad you liked this one better than the last one and are continuing the series.

[@michaelgrimes381]

here about 5 minutes or so after posting, i think this is the earliest ive ever been to an upload🤣👍

[@mannyegarica12]

Yeah the main cop who was in this game had a savor complex. And people with those conflicts have to deal with the fact that they know they can't save everybody but they just don't want to admit it.

[@ShannonStringer]

I loved manifest! She was in that show, her husband, son and sister in law were on the plane.

[@Christianplus10]

Love this franchise, glad you guys are having fun with it

[@Anonymous2306]

Amazing reactions guys, catched up with you after seeing your Terminator and Alien series reactions, now enjoying revisiting one of my favorite movies franchises with you. The Saw story and backstory at this point is still bound to expand further with even better twists!

[@jaycebradley8404]

‘THERE’S BARBED WIRE IN THIS MOVIE’ the collective leo pointing meme 😭🤣

[@viperlionheart5837]

back and again with my facts.... 18:37 "what a transition" ... seamless transitions between separate scenes in the film were not created using digital effects but were done practically. The sets were built in such a way that two separate scenes could be filmed in one shot without interruption.

[@mandareborn]

4 & 5 are some of the weaker entries but i can't wait for you guys to see 6 cus it SLAPS. 7 is a cheese fest, but 10 goes HARD cant wait to see the reactions!! Blake may have a hardtime with 10 tho 😅😅

[@theddrara186]

I appreciate the Manifest reference ITS ALL CONNECTED!!!!

[@RaggedyPack]

ITS ALL CONNECTED

[@sakuraii_16]

We need 5 and 6 asap

[@notyouraveragebear9326]

That’s interesting that you guys all enjoy this one more that Saw 3. I mean we all can’t stand Jeff but usually people love 3 more than 4. Saw 4 is usually forgotten or hailed as the more convoluted chapters that start the soap opera era.

[@Lillianna2478]

Saw 4 is my second favorite after the first

[@Angelacarolinax.]

My second fav saw movie but can't wait for saw 5 bc it has one of my top 10 fav traps, can't wait 🤍

[@FLQueerLiberal1982]

See? I told ya so. In the last three reactions, I told ya Jigsaw isn't the real villain. He's just an antihero turned vigilante delivering justice to the real "villains".

[@Renaronaaa]

Ah there it is🫶 been waiting 😅

[@aarongibson168]

The name of the DC character who’s just a brain inside a robot is “The Brain”

[@billramirez8686]

The ending of the next one, I plan to see Blake and Igli react to that reveal. Igli had me and my husband dying on his reaction to the last Hill House reaction. This one was good. Like I said guys, if you don't take it too seriously and don't try to dissect it too much, it's a fun ride. Looking forward to the next reaction guys. Kudos. 🤘

[@anthonyfranco88]

I love that you guys are pumping these out 🎉 Another good night for me lol

[@keziapires823]

LET’S GO NUMBER FIVEEEEE!! I think you’re going to like that one.

[@IllaLuna17]

I’m here :) Again I will say how I feel the main plot was re routed, the first two movies was about giving you the option to live because you were killing yourself by drugg!ng yourself, cutting, alcohol etc etc Now he turned into a viligante. But I guess it’s because is different people setting the games and picking the people. The first two were Johns idea, I wish it would of stay like that.

[@MsDarra]

Ppl don’t talk about how much the brain tumor likely has to do with John’s behavior. I appreciate hearing it here.

[@mwest3191]

Just registered that it takes four movies and over a dozen victims for the local cops to call in the feds. Points for realism!

[@scottylewis8124]

Strahm is from Gilmore Girls.

[@briannacooley6762]

Off topic, buy I got my wisdom teeth taken out today, I was numbed up and everything, but was wide awake. I felt it every time the dentist cracked and broke off a piece of my tooth. Thought I'd share that gruesome little tidbit on a gruesome movie.

[@Jake-nl3er]

The original script for Saw IV is available online and was much better. It would open with Jeff continuing his game, and having to forgive Lynn's lover to save his daughter. He fails again and they both die, but Corbett was never actually in danger and lives. The main plot follows detective Matthews, he's dropped off in a box in the police station after being kept prisoner for 6 months. He's gone insane and is hallucinating pig heads stalking him. A new game begins and he's made aware that his wife is trapped in the ice block trap. He has to go building to building across the city, like Rigg did, saving people within a short time limit to get to his wife. Strahm and the police believe that he is the new Jigsaw and are one step behind him. Even shooting at him at one point, but he doesn't have time to stop and explain. The third person he saves is detective Hoffman, who is explained to have been his partner and fellow dirty cop in the past, and Hoffman acompanies Matthews in the finale. There's two red herring Jigsaws. One being Art Blank hosting the ice trap like in the final version, the other being Jeff from the drill chair trap in Saw 1, who's stalking Strahm. Both are being forced to take part there's a sub plot about 12 or however many missing people beloved to either be Jigsaw victims and / or jigsaw helpers, this was only mentioned once in the final version and never fully explained. Hoffman and Matthews get to the building with his wife, where all the previous traps are laid out like a museum. Matthews has to pull out his own teeth (reused in Saw 7) to get the combination for the door to save his wife. I can't remember exactly how it was meant to end, but Hoffman reveals himself to be the new Jigsaw to Matthews, and Jeff from Saw 1 blows up Strahms and Parez's car, killing Parez. The films trap locations were also filled with booby traps like Saw 1 and Saw 2 had. The reason why it was changed was because Matthews' actor was angry that they'd cut his death scene from part 3, and written him as the protagonist of this film, all without his knowledge or consent. He refused to be a part of any of it. So the script was rewritten into one very similar to what we have now, but with Rigg saving his wife from the ice trap. The films director met with Matthews personally, and managed to convince him to return to Saw 4 as long as he wasn't the main character and as long as he got killed of for good. The script originally had Rigg, Art, and Matthews winning their game, but they had to change it to everyone dying for Matthews to return. That's how we got the Saw IV that we did. Also the idea for Hoffman being an apprentice was thought of mid way through production of Saw 3. They changed his and Riggs lines last minute to make him seem suspicious incase saw 4 was ever made.

[@bobbob-cd9yl]

I love how overdramatic and kinda silly saw at times goes

[@brittanygidley1291]

we want evil dead 2013.. what do you mean? that’s what they do in the morgue.

[@jasmine9581]

5:00 :) 7:35 "talk to me"! He's never heard a muffled/closed mouthbvoice before 9:09 and now you've just confirmed his fears by hitting him 17:20 Aa its cut 17:26 no one mentioned the tape 19:01 there. Someone kinda mentioned it but not for the expected conlcusion lol i.e., "don't save her" doesn't mean it won't work anyway, but that trying to save her is what _starts_ the trap 19:15 the _sound_ 25:00 mm been too long to recognize these two then ; i dont think I ever recognized that the guy who punched him and sat down was the "gun in the peephole" guy from Saw II 29:22 and remember Rigg is 33:44 Hoffman protecting him, mouth scars 55:07 and cops were telling _him_ to stop

[@ParticleBomb]

38:46 "Your next move is critical." The way i see it, her next move should have been to step away.

[@Weskers_GF]

My 2nd fav right after saw 1. So underrated

[@sheeps1495]

Really appreciate these wonderful reactions and incites. Keep up the good work, because we appreciate it 😊👍🏽

[@Adrianne519]

Still to this day it angers me that they killed off Rigg, he's one of my favorites in the entire trilogy and he could have continued to be a great protagonist for Hoffman. And I always thought he having to be tested was bullshit! Really, because he wants to save everyone, yeah how dare he! And he's telling him to go home when he literally sees his colleague and friend being strung up and in danger, he's a cop he's going to do his job! That's actually one of my biggest problems with the franchise is not having a consistent protagonist, that you could root for. Every time they did get one they would kill them off in the next movie.

[@drockherb2073]

Since this came first imma guessing yall didn’t know that David also plays young Luke from the only thing I Hillhouse 👍🏼 that kids an incredible talent!

[@PaulSmith-sb7sj]

How does every great Saturday night begin? With the phrase "Is there barbwire in this movie?"

[@ZackaryPlumley]

“They save the best for last brother” should’ve gotten a bigger laugh lmfao

[@aniharutyunyan3625]

I like the 8th one😅 first scene especially 😂

[@iraboss6691]

I genuinely think the saw story is great, yes its like tv show but the twists there able do every movie is fairly impressive

[@ChristopherZeta1999]

ARDIM ZOLA from Captain America and Captain america The winter soldier. The guy with the brain in a computer

[@dannydixon6569]

I know im not a patreon yet but i dig you guys. But a movie you must see is dead silence. Its from the director of saw 1 and 2 james wan its have a very satisfying twist and ending just so visually cool. And its also has donnie Wahlberg your boy..lol. but if you even partially liked first saw will love dead silence. Thanks ya and keep with what your doing it's great viewing

[@MrCoggibird]

Blake and I said Riddler at the same time 😅

[@alialrassam57]

Blake can't stand these bloody scenes, he's just like me 😂❤