I Experienced Europe's Most HATED Football Club

[@Simon-dg2ci]

Bochum fans boycott away games at Red Bull Leipzig, thats why there weren't many of them. Some other clubs fanbases do it too. For example, Freiburg fans go to their U23 teams game instead of going to RB away.

[@awaydaysfootball]

That makes sense!!

[@Luckychampion-e5j]

@@awaydaysfootballhello sir es Leeds spending another 16 years in championship

[@Lukas-gc3wn]

​@@awaydaysfootball Almost every organised fan scene in the bundesliga boycotts their games

[@wither1208]

​@awaydaysfootball yeah that's true. Also, Bochum fans are class if you ever are in NRW. Their away support is usually quite good as well. RB with the worst atmosphere in both ends 😂

[@hofman112]

I just don't understand how you can hate a club because of tradition in this day and age. We live in capitalism, it's the 21st century. RB Leipzig is only working for the good of German football: the Bundesliga is becoming much more competitive and entertaining. Do you want Bayern to win the league easily every year? Is that really what you want? The German public may have had enough of that, but the DFL does not just show football for the German public!

[@chandlerinverness8301]

There were no Bochum fans because the active Fans protest against RBL and thatways do not go to RB

[@awaydaysfootball]

Makes sense!

[@callumkent7155]

@@awaydaysfootball I went Leipzig last year. Enjoyable city. I see a lokomotive game. They are traditionally the biggest club in Leipzig. There is also another club called Chemie Leipzig. They contest the Leipzig derby with lokomotive

[@buddiemanCrossfire]

@@callumkent7155 Chemie vs Lok is one of the biggest derbys in germany, Top 10 if not even Top 5. The Derby is not only local, it is also political because Lok is political right and Chmie is political left.

[@espben360]

@@buddiemanCrossfirethat’s the game to go to in Leipzig!

[@rvnx_potatoe]

​@@callumkent7155Chemie is the biggest club in Leipzig 🟩⬜

[@ryback1911]

Eating Döner (Kebab) with a fork should be a crime. And for football Leipzig has two big teams with Chemie and Lok.

[@santiagon.2104]

I was shocked when I saw that lmao

[@awaydaysfootball]

I don’t want chilli sauce fingers

[@davinnicode]

„Big“ teams which care more about politics than football

[@TmGino]

"Big" clubs in division 4 and bs stadiums. They are not even close to be a factor in german football and missed every chances they had in tha past centuries

[@German_Sniper_297]

​@@awaydaysfootball That's just part of the experience 😉

[@martink7323]

Lokomotive und Chemie Leipzig still control the city. Look at the streetart. They have big fanbases and both average attendances around 5000 in the 4th division. A lot of people going to RB Leipzig used to follow those teams in the past but dogded them for not being succesfull enough, probably even before RB Leipzig was founded. They don't care about the club, they just want to watch succesful football. Fair enough, but thats not what german football culture is about. If Red Bull decides not to sponsor this club anymore it will vanish.

[@FR-dx5xc]

For Chemie that might be true... But for Lok there are a bunch of really good other reasons to stop supporting, my man. Some people just don't like standing shoulder to shoulder with Nazi-imbeciles themselves, or their symphatisants, within the block. It's just simple as that.

[@SchwarzeSonne1965]

@@FR-dx5xc You reather stand shoulder with shoulder with Muhammed who loves your neck I understand.

[@ullc6155]

„control the city” klingt ja als hätten die die Stadt eingenommen. 😅

[@jankastrup3593]

@@SchwarzeSonne1965 touch grass and go outside

[@DanNick.Daniel]

@@FR-dx5xc wasn't this always a problem with Lok? So why should you dodge the games if you were fine with it before?

[@robin180hsv]

You're not gonna believe it but the "Ultras" of RB are actually protesting against Red Bull having to much of an influence in the club. Towards the end of last season some of the "Ultras" got banned for using pyro and now they're beefing with the only reason they're somewhat relevant

[@awaydaysfootball]

👀👀

[@KaiGermann]

​@@blaubeer8039It's sooo funny 😂

[@monti3699]

"Ultras" Cant take anyone who supports RB Leipzig serious.

[@NelsonGuevara1909]

Red Bull dont have Ultras. Only Clowns.

[@tbn.z900]

rb has no ultras. they are just a bunch of idiots following a marketing product.

[@aramsden6859]

Love the new format of actually checking out the cities or towns of the places you're visiting. Gives the skint and tied down people amongst us a chance to experience new places!

[@DanRobards]

"Modern innit" to a train station built a hundred years ago. Love Bens analysis sometimes haha

[@awaydaysfootball]

Amazing in depth knowledge from us as per

[@nomedocanal8496]

You may say that's when the modernism current in architecture started...

[@JCDBECKS]

Anyone else notice the irony that Ellis’ room door was 404 😂

[@dirtyoldsmudge2079]

Came here to say the same thing 😂

[@DanNick.Daniel]

Tradition not found

[@AT-Kits]

Error 404: Open door not found

[@uthayaalagusamy6076]

Error 404: Tradition and fans not found

[@kenneth6964]

American here. I have actually learned a ton about European football from your channel. You are more educational than you think!! Awesome vids and channel.

[@PaulPiraat]

I went to Leizpig for the Netherlands v France game at the euros and had a great time, lovely little city centre and an amazing stadium. Glad I didn't have to endure an RB Leipzig game for the experience

[@jojojo1452]

Lekkere piratenmuziek > Red Bull

[@hoynx6604]

The city is pretty alright. its a known student city. But politically its sadly pretty all right.

[@nEon2680]

⁠@@hoynx6604that’s basically not true, seems like you know nothing about Leipzig. It’s like a leftist enclave in the old eastern German area

[@vlogimblock]

@awaydays Bochum didnt sell out their away end because most german Fans boycott the Away game in Leipzig. thats why there is barely anyone in the away end

[@alexanderterhaar9388]

It’s quite interesting that, historically, East German football clubs in the former GDR were always linked to a certain company. The other two traditional clubs of Leipzig are called Lokomotiv and Chemie. Lokomotiv belonged to the railway company while Chemie belonged to the local chemical industry, just like Chemie Halle (now Hallescher FC). Dynamo Dresden belonged to the police department while Dynamo Berlin belonged to the Ministry of State Security. The main economic activity in Cottbus was its energy plant, hence the football club Energie Cottbus. Erzgebirge Aue used to be called Pneumatik Aue and later Wismut Aue and was owned by the local construction tool company, with Hansa Rostock being owned by the local fishing industry and FSV Zwickau, then called Motor Zwickau, being owned by the local car and engine manufacturing company.

[@KaiGermann]

Great summary 🤜🏼🤛🏼

[@antirb9197]

Not comparable because these clubs are not an ad. They are more comparable to Leverkusen probably

[@vitus6897]

As far as i know they weren't owned by the companies. Those we're more Like assigned sponsors

[@yomintyfresh]

I'd love to see more Away Days at stadiums in the former GDR. Ellis at a Jena-Erfurt derby, anyone?

[@mikakaidold]

I think you don't get why RB is hated, it's not just because they are owned by a company. It is because the company has nothing to do with the city and just wanted to make a road to glory with a club. In the lower leagues they spend 10 times the money their competitors have been able to spend. They also asked Dynamo Dresden, Fortuna Düsseldorf and 1860 München and other clubs if they would be interested. They simply rebranded the whole club they bought. They just don't care about basic sport values

[@OceanBKVR]

Always love seeing Ben the goat appear on a small channel for support

[@pietropes1322]

I only watch the ones with Ben in it

[@ThexWHAMx]

I highly recommend Gladbach. Went there last season, sat next to the away end which was also Bochum that day. Met a group of Germans lads, some of which were Bochum fans and ended up having a massive session with them in Cologne.

[@Mr-Squeeky]

I was at Gladbach the night before this Leipzig match. It was the opener versus Bayer. It was indeed an incredible experience. The atmosphere was truly stunning.

[@turtlewhohatescabbage1157]

So the reason you recommend Gladbach is because Bochum away lads and you drank in Cologne? Okay kind of random :D

[@justsomeguy2743]

Gladbach Fans are incredible, they even helped the families of the Hillsborough disaster raising money to give to them, will always love that club as a “second” club

[@ThexWHAMx]

@@turtlewhohatescabbage1157 hahaha yeah forget to mention the atmosphere was class as well 😂

[@mortezz1268]

A massive session?

[@Sn0wmead]

15:43 “It’s a young history” No it’s no history with a position in the league bought and paid for by Red Bull. The club that they erased had history, not this energy drink advertisement. Also in regard to the Bochum fans, lots of clubs boycott their games at Leipzig because of their existence and how they’re run. Which is why their away allocation isn’t sold out.

[@markcraggs6471]

They didn’t erase any history though. SSV Markranstädt still exist, with all of their history in tact.

[@danielaraujo498]

they literally just do what english clubs do, i dont see why its such a big deal

[@schadland]

​​@@danielaraujo498the big deal is that they literally just do what english clubs do! Clubs are run their members and not by countries, sheikhs, billionaires or f*cking energy drinks

[@antirb9197]

​@@danielaraujo498tell me what english club completely is an advertisment

[@schleifenquantengravitation]

@@markcraggs6471 Yes thats right, but some people would rather hate than think.

[@reverendball]

AwayDates is a genius spinoff idea, go to a random city and see if you can convince a Hinge/Tinder date to come join you for a date at the match on the day

[@melo1890]

he’d defo end up as a suspected serial killer 😂

[@davidblancarte4839]

He could just Collab with a football creator from that city, sit down and have a chat

[@chippy-459]

​@@davidblancarte4839 collabing from a creator from that club is a much better idea

[@JXG9]

The second Ben joined in on that dance with strangers I knew that this was the Year of Ben. Expecting massive things from him this year

[@szulej018]

It should be Puskás Akadémia, the Hungarian giant club is located in a 1000 person small village which is famous of the football club, and the village's famous born: Viktor Orbán who is the Hungarian prime minister, the stadium is almost in Viktor's old house's back garden.

[@joshteweles221]

I’m old enough to remember watching Lokomotiv Leipzig in the Cup Winners Cup final in 1987: they lost to Ajax with the goal scored by a young Marco van Basten.

[@tylercasson6057]

17:18 No way you used the RB Salzburg hockey club's crest 😂

[@SiggiLo_DIF1891]

Lol😂

[@lukas6824]

Says it all about this fucking RedBull sports empire lol

[@AdamKlapkaFanAccount]

Good catch, I thought I might've been the only one to notice lol

[@johnsbox]

You may not be old enough to remember Lokomotive Leipzig which was a strong East German club, such as Dynamo Dresden and FC Magdeburg often representing that country in various European competitions. Though I;m surprised as you are well read when it comes to football.

[@grofbeton]

When we had Europacup I Europa cup II Europa Cup III . The east European teams where so strong and FIt

[@JKribbit]

23:23 As a subscriber from Thailand, you can defenitely buy love in Thailand, and much more.

[@LWeber-yw6zb]

The funny thing is, they built the RedBull Leipzig Stadium inside an old traditional stadium that could fit 100.000 to have a capacity of 40.000 seats only for Leipzig to be unable to fill the stadium

[@brownpemo4342]

really liked the new video style did enjoy seeing more of the city and the boys walking around

[@Buffalo31]

Most clubs in England ( if not the world) came from workplaces/ factories. Just because Red bull isn't over 100 years old, it's still a business.

[@bv6577]

No Club in Germany, except Leverkusen and Wolfsburg came from any kind of factories

[@justTyping]

@@bv6577 Schalke came from miners.

[@knm4186]

@@justTypingthat is not what they’re talking about. It’s about companies buying/owning clubs

[@justTyping]

@@knm4186 But that is what he was talking about. I did not say that Leverkusen and Wolfsburg owning the club, but that the club came from the factory.

[@frankf684]

@@knm4186Bayer AG owns leverkusen

[@khosrow]

I live in Leipzig. It has so many older fans is that they are fed up with the fan culture of traditional teams. When they attend an RB game they get to see good (or even world class) football without having to inhale smoke from pyro or having to get out of a mass brawl. You can go to an RB game, bring your family, have a good time and a beer with your boys after. Other local clubs fans like BSG Chemie, Lok Leipzig, Halle FC, Dynamo Dresden etc. are overly politicized, violent and always causing trouble.

[@jackorooney1469]

Wouldn’t RB Salzburg be more hated considering they stole one of the biggest Austrian clubs to make the new club

[@FalseNi9e]

That's what I understand

[@yaneyd93]

They are both hated

[@Supersd_]

Salzburg took over austria salzburg. They would have gone bankrupt if they werent taken over by rb. But yeah they are unfortunetly hated in austria

[@matthiasriemer]

I am from Austria and was a big fan of Austria Salzburg in the 90s. But then die club declined and nearly went bankrupt. Without Red Bull there would be no professional football team in Salzburg i think. And the investment of Red Bull liftet the Austrian football to a much higher level.

[@ixodesricinus3001]

Salzburg is for austrians what leipzig is to eastern germans. RB elevated the level of football there and therefore the ppl dont care that much about the construct behind it.

[@Isaac-xj3wm]

Hi Ellis, I hope u see this. I once met you in the classic football shirts on Manchester and was amazed by how kind and humble you were. I wish you all the best.

[@brianmoore6724]

Sadly as a fan of Casino Salzburg back in the early 90's when I lived for a year near the Stadion Lehen RB did buy them out and change everything just like Leipzig. The sad part is that when I went back for a Austrian Bundesliga game during one of my visits it was empty. And I mean empty. It was cold, but that's winter in Europe and doesn't keep you guys inside so when I asked friends they said there isn't much support for them because they continually dominate the Austrian Bundesliga and then crash out early doors from the Champions League. True old school fans miss the purple and white and what Salzburg football used to be. As mentioned below it may have gone bankrupt so RB saved it but a lot (for lack of a better word) support a restart of the old Salzburg Austria club that plays in lower divisions still and at a small field on the other side of the airport from the big stadium. I haven't made it to one of those yet but I plan to

[@AtzeHHouse]

Having been to a couple RB matches when they were in the lower leagues, the point about there being a sanitized match day experience is actually a big draw for a lot of fans. Leipzig’s traditional clubs (Chemie and Lok) both have had and still have massive issues with riots, hooliganism and general mismanagement. My feeling was that lots of people in Leipzig just want to be able to watch a somewhat successful team in peace.

[@TheHesseJames]

RB could sell the Club anytime to Putin for a huge profit. Would be quite fitting in so many ways.

[@brianbrucker71]

@@TheHesseJames here’s the award for the stupidest comment 🏆enjoy!!😊

[@TheHesseJames]

@@brianbrucker71 Thank you very much, I will.

[@knm4186]

@@TheHesseJames what does Putin have to do with either Leipzig or Red Bull lmao. RB aren’t selling their clubs

[@Sappy1738]

Skin looking class mate

[@awaydaysfootball]

Appreciate you

[@abillcherno7782]

16:53 why did you have to do me like that Ellis?! 😭 I’m Italian born and bred and I look just like you 😭

[@awaydaysfootball]

😂😂😂

[@itmkoeln]

Leipzig not selling out games is kinda a meme... When I was in Leipzig 2020 for Dreamhack 2020 in february I literally would have been given tickets for free... They were asking people in the city centre if they were up to watch Bundesliga... Because that fixture was nowhere near to be sold out. And they didn't could have had that... I had to leave that day tough back to my at the time home Cologne. And despite them rarely selling out, you literally have to buy fixtures as a combi ticket. Top fixtures like Bayer, Bayern, Dortmund with literally Heidenheim, Bochum and the like...

[@antirb9197]

It's so emberassing, I love it 😂

[@raphael18116]

Making fun of the most hated club for not having so many fans is kinda stupid. You could blame them for the way they were founded instead of laughing about them for not filling their stadium completely for a match against Bochum.

[@itmkoeln]

@@raphael18116 meanwhile my club you rarely get tickets on the free market. And that is regardless they struggled to stay in the Bundesliga. Köln is selling out basically to members only. You can get Women’s and U21 or U18 tickets but rarely Bundesliga. The only time in the current season you could get tickets on the free market it was Köln - Braunschweig (after Braunschweig haven’t sold their allocated away tickets in full) Which has been a rare sight for Köln since we were in lofty heights of Europa League and Coference League

[@OceanBKVR]

Idk, Leeds comes a close second

[@animamaster]

As someone who has no quarrel against Leeds, I think I hate them more than RB Leipzig

[@markmorgan6231]

Leeds is 1st

[@Villi23]

Norwich?

[@awaydaysfootball]

Ocean I will cry

[@Aaron1993uk]

ALAW 💛💙💛

[@BannersOnTheWall]

"Tradition starts somewhere" - yeah lad. You're in Leipzig. The place the DFB was founded. You have Lok Leipzig who played in a European final. Chemie won two league titles in East Germany. You've got tradition on your doorstep

[@awaydaysfootball]

Unreal

[@BannersOnTheWall]

​@awaydaysfootball football in the former East Germany was wild. Suspected government involvement in fixing games, 100% government doping of national team players, players and whole clubs picked up and moved at the will of administrators, insane team names, it's quite literally bonkers. Leipzig's a city with a pretty crackers football story all in all.

[@spikeychris]

@@BannersOnTheWall And how many of the teams from East Germany now play in the top division in Germany? Union Berlin and Leipzig are the only 2 and a big reason for that is the 50+1 rule. I get why the rule exists BUT it does significantly benefit clubs from the richer West German than the poorer East.

[@Noah-rw9on]

@@spikeychris but the problem is not the 50 plus 1 rule. The Problems are the still ongoing huge infrastructural differences between east and west germany

[@spikeychris]

@@Noah-rw9on yes that plays a role as well but the 50 plus 1 rule also helps keep western german football clubs in the ascendency because they are in a more wealthy regions generally.

[@micahburk9865]

You need to come to STL CITY SC. We just formed in 2023, but the fans absolutely bring the passion every game

[@LokFansUSA]

Red Bull has given this great historical football city an awful reputation and they couldn't care less because MONEY 🤑 🤑 🤑

[@pietropes1322]

V is much better anyway

[@a.j.petrarca2268]

If you want to experience an MLS club with more history and excitement, I can't recommend a trip to Columbus enough. First team in the league, and currently one of the best in the league, but you gotta get here before Wilfried Nancy gets poached by a Europen club. Absolutely top class manager.

[@paule5004]

About the lawn sports thing, in German it's ,,Rasenballsport", it does roughly translate to lawn ball sport, however lawn ball is ,,Kugelstoßen" in German, not ,,Rasenball". Rasenball literally just means lawn and ball, a non-existant/rarely used word wich what makes it even weirder

[@ThreePointOneFou]

1:23 Him: "How do you get a severed bull's head into a football stadium?" Me: "How do you get a severed bull's head to begin with?" 😧

[@SimpaLimpaADHD]

We have the same rule in Sweden. Thanks to it we still have been able to avoid VAR being implemented.

[@CiaranArcher]

What a video.. reminds me of the old school copa 90 days. Leipzig has a similar vibe to Hoffenheim also in the Bundesliga.. when I went ads for Audi & SAP overpowered the noise of the fans every few minutes…

[@awaydaysfootball]

Appreciate it!

[@dedy1]

Awaydays: 1% Football 99% Messing Around

[@scavengerrx1906]

Visit Peru (or more of South America), our Liga 1 isn’t the best in terms of skill, but the atmosphere and emotion on the field and stands you will feel exists nowhere else.

[@Zonk420]

That's a funny way of saying MK Dons

[@joebradfield6549]

It’s German way haha

[@-wealuka7367]

I'd like to think MK Dons is more irrelevant than hated

[@dinohermann1887]

@@-wealuka7367They‘re both.

[@L0REN0R2Z0RR0]

It's not a club, it's an advertising pillar with football shoes, a local store of a big franchise, just like Salzburg, NY, Bragantino and soon Omiya. They all have the same identity and are more or less owned by their main sponsor, something which is illegal in Germany.

[@berlinistrotweiss]

WAAAAAS STEHT AN JEDER ECKE!?

[@KaiGermann]

RED BULL VERRECKE

[@ronintakumi3325]

RED BULL VERRE…

[@tombstone3echo]

RED BULL VERRECKE!

[@SophieTYL]

Deine Mama?

[@bakespeare1392]

Deine Mutter auf der Arbeit.

[@Legolukas6]

It's quite funny to see you walking without maps through Leipzig. Especially because I knew all the places you went :D Please make a video like this. Sounds great

[@DK-ts3ij]

You have to come to Max Morlock Stadium in Nuremberg. 👀💕

[@TheFrommerhold]

Really enjoyed the video, also subscribed. I think you should get a bigger microphone or a small one that's attached to your shirt. However these were some interesting and fun impressions! Cheers from Kiel

[@calebdunn333]

Trashes German fan culture and then immediately misses the goal while waiting in line for a drink

[@leondore]

I just noticed, the reservation sign thingy at 26:06 says "At 6:30 pm we're looking forward to... Mrs Ellis Platten and her company". If you booked a table online they must have thought Ellis was a female name haha

[@mrraccoon6264]

Red Bull sponsors Leeds.....Maybe they should be called RB Leedszig

[@RodonTanaka]

🤫🤫🤫🤫😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️🫥🫥 Don't give em Ideas!! ⬜🟨🟦🟨⬜

[@robertewalt7789]

And of course NY Red Bulls play in MLS.

[@Knishmaster]

Not talking about football, just to give you some more information about the city: Leipzig is actually a booming city. The fastest growing in Germany which has lots of green areas and many hip districs. People call it the new Berlin because many of the so called cool people move from there, also because Berlin rents became to expensive.

[@chinonson]

Why is Ben low-key a mad man great dancing 😂😂😂

[@awaydaysfootball]

He’s a legend of the game isn’t he

[@chinonson]

@@awaydaysfootball i feel like every ep we are just slowly stepping into his world i love him !!!

[@jayemmsea]

The stadium used to be a 100,000-seater and when they renovated it for the World Cup they basically built a new one inside the old bowl to downsize it

[@myoung33333]

15:21 if you put his facial hair with Ellis’s, you’d nearly get a full beard

[@gazzadona]

I can’t lie when I went to their game before the atmosphere was amazing for it. It did help it finished 8-2 with a hat trick of goals and assists in the same game

[@trippydrew8492]

Should've asked if the sold Monster

[@sbflying]

‘German law doesn’t allow clubs to be named after corporate entities’ BAYER Leverkusen, who were literally founded by said company itself:

[@berlinwhite]

No they were not. They were formed by workers of said company, not the company itself.

[@markmeddlock558]

In Leipzig nur Chemie und Lok!

[@THHaci]

Richtig und Wichtig!

[@pattevargas7688]

In der Regionalliga😂

[@boki9076]

⁠Vereinsliebe steht immer über Erfolg, scheiß egal, welche Liga

[@pattevargas7688]

@@boki9076 Klar, rede dir das nur ein😂

[@THHaci]

@@pattevargas7688 was warst du für ein Fan vor 2009?

[@Dr.Fiendish]

As an old codger I do find you two chaps most entertaining.

[@mrdfpiii]

So, a severed bulls head isn't a glass bottle or a packet of fruit pastilles you bought at the nearest LIDL. That's why you can bring it in to a football stadium. Very specific rules.

[@jamieg7874]

Class video as always, also, your skin looks so much better also?! Keep up the hard work👌

[@thebigmarvinski]

the elephant in the room no one talks about is how the fall of the wall ruined a lot of East German clubs as players left for big wages in the west. As much as they are hated RB are the only club in the top flight in the East

[@frissundverreckdran7542]

RB is no "east German" club though. They were "founded" after the fall of the wall. Only real eastern Bundesliga team in terms of history is Union. Technically RB isnt even a German club since their headquarters are in Austria.

[@ajibolavincent5496]

Energie Cottbus and Erzgebirge Aue are yoyo clubs between 2 Bundesliga and 3 Liga. Hansa ROstock were relegated last season to the 3 Liga as well.

[@ToastMalone824]

Yayyy, so glad these videos are back Ellis! Up the Away Days

[@alexhardcastle4522]

Is it me or is Ellis glow up is next level

[@awaydaysfootball]

Come onnnnnnn

[@itshopey123]

Another cracking video Ellis! Looking forward to the next one!

[@SteffenBaden-Baden]

Döner with a fork is a big no no 😂

[@dev0nSA1nt]

We're literally 100 likes away from ellis getting chucked into the countryside of rutland and walking 22 miles to watch leicester

[@halnone]

You should've talked a bit about the history of football in East Germany. I don't think these fans are "glory hunters", they're just happy to finally have a club in the top division. For all the hate that Red Bull gets, it's nice to see them invest in East German football.

[@nunocspinto]

That's actually a good point... Looking for maps (available on Reddit) for the 3 top divisions of Germany, i can count 8 clubs on the East Germany site. Two of them are Herta Berlin and Union Berlin. It's true that RB Leipzig is "artificial" in a sense, but having a top flight for the people in Leipzig is a "win". I get the point for the german supporters to protest against it. It's a fair thing to do.

[@the_l_generator1779]

Not glory Hunters but happy to have a club in the first division. That is the definition of a glory hunter. They are not fans of a football club but customers of a marketing product and only care for the success and are happy to ignore the unfair advantages Red Bull has in comparison to other clubs in Germany.

[@halnone]

@@the_l_generator1779 Nice job completely missing my point. It's about representation. Look at the state of East German football then compare it to what Red Bull has been able to give the region.

[@nunocspinto]

@@the_l_generator1779 Wrong, as @halnone said, you missed the point completely. That region had almost nothing. Then, one club started climbing. Climbing gathers supporters, fanbase. Ok, I agree that there's some marketing involved. But it's for the greater good, the existance of a club. If only old clubs deserve support, due to their supporters not being "glory hunting" (in your POV), nobody will create a new club anywhere...

[@the_l_generator1779]

@@nunocspinto They did not climb. They bought a starting place in the 5. division and than due to being a marketing product and circumventing 50+1 more then Wolfsburg, Hoffenheim etc. could spend huge and buy a squad that easily got to all division. I am sorry that East Germany has no clubs in higer division but Red Bull can never be accepted. And yeah nobody should just start a club. There are enough clubs with history in Germany so we do not need more marketing products.

[@2legit2quit_3d4]

If you go to a 3rd division game, for example the game Between Dresden and Cottbus, you have way more tradition and way louder fans than RB Leipzig will never accomplish!

[@concurrenz]

its a different experience. they chant, sing, scream right wing paroles, make monkey sounds towards players of african descent, the teams can play 3 consecutive passes and on the other side you only have champions league football.

[@berlinwhite]

@@concurrenz Ah, them old clichés, again. 😂

[@Rally81]

Besides the point of the video, Your skins looking great mate hope it's stays clear for you lad. Great video again btw 👌🏼

[@shmooveyea]

Difference in the MLS is that the only team that goes nuts and shows up is Columbus Crew while in Germany the only team that _doesn't_ is RB

[@frankf684]

Yeah not true at all,Charlotte FC has great crowds as does Atlanta.And I’m not commenting on quality of soccer played just fans

[@heissersynth]

"Besides lacking tradition: RB has bought its way to the top with the money of the soft drink manufacturer. Maybe they've done a good job, the problem is just: Many of the people who do this good job are also poached from other clubs with money that they haven't earned through football, but money that the corporation has pumped in. Additionally, they've found as many loopholes as possible to comply with the DFL's statutes. You've already noticed the connection of "Rasenballsport" and the club's crest. Moreover, the "Verein", that have to own the "majority" of the club's shares, only allows a small handful of members, all with good connections to the corporation. By the way: "Ciao Ciao!" or "Tschau Tschau" is a common way to say "By!" in Germany. He didn't think you're Italiens.

[@LeeMoore-tu4gr]

Ellis is great...but BEN is GOATED!!!!!! 🐐🐐🐐

[@joebradfield6549]

How can you forget about Alfie he’s the real goat 🐐

[@surfer1690]

The RB Salzburg logo you showed is the Ice hockey team... 😅 also Red Bull has the Munich Ice Hockey team who were going bankrupt before Red Bull stepped in.

[@achselotti]

Living in Leipzig myself, I‘d agree on the term »family club«. To me, it feels like the experience tends to be one of a more casual activity that’s just as entertaining as anything you’d be doing on your typical weekend alone or with your kids. I think the brand(!) Red Bull, what they do and what they stand for besides selling beverages, emphasises that sort of entertainment. The target group of the clubs fanbase is literally the average Joe - they even partnered with the city of Leipzig to include some benefits (2x free or reduced tickets to a game I believe and some other little goodies) in their welcoming gift for citizens who’d move here. Ofc they target football enthusiasts; they have fan organisations and »Ultras« as well but for the most part i perceive it as described. Since the club does have little history to some or none according to others, there just isn’t that immersive, exciting and dramatic atmosphere you would get during a game of a traditional club. Yet, I don’t think it’s entirely reprehensible because football should be enjoyable in a way where you don’t necessarily have to be a die-hard stan to feel included. And it’s RedBull still - they don’t have to try that much anyway… On the other hand, the issue with the 50+1 rule and RB Staff making up most of the club‘s members is just horrific. I bet it’d be different if ordinary fans would be allowed to participate more and requirements for membership were adjusted. But for that, i think that literal industry plant of a football club has yet to achieve anything decent for people to care more about that situation. Evidently, they do not yet. Anyways, great video and hope the two of you had a good time staying here!

[@fighter612]

The big problem with the game against Bochum was that the active fan community boycotted the game at the beginning because, according to their statements, there were many arbitrary stadium bans against some chaotic people. It was also extremely hot that day, which is why many people only stood in the shade and were not in their seats. If you really want to see a game in Leipzig, where there is more going on, you have to come against the big clubs or against Union Berlin (due to the location it is declared a derby). Many who go to RB don't care that they hate you so much because in Leipzig you can see that money is used sensibly and you don't spend millions on "finished" players. Rather, you buy young players, some of whom are unknown, and develop them further and simply play very nice football. Sorry for the bad English.

[@Dennisisdaa]

Jeder einzelne Union Fan würde dir widersprechen das ein Derby zu nennen.

[@fighter612]

@@Dennisisdaa deswegen habe ich auch geschrieben dass es lokal gesehen ein Derby ist. Dass man es sportlich nicht als Derby sieht stimme ich dir voll und ganz zu. Dir einen schönen Tag ✌️

[@Dennisisdaa]

@@fighter612 Alles klar verstehe. Dir ebenfalls einen schönen Tag : )

[@berlinwhite]

@@fighter612 Nee, das ist auch kein "lokales" Derby. Unions echtes Lokalderby hat btw schon seit (fast 20) Jahren nicht mehr stattgefunden. 😉

[@kennathnavas1655]

In germany we call dis tote stimmung

[@6_m4l1k]

as much as i enjoy your recent transition to football style doccumentaries/ challenges, i still miss your old videos like football shirt hunting for the most obscure and rare kits

[@bigbrother-d8w]

brother, you used a fork to eat Döner?! Why where there no talahons around to set you straight.

[@skizeey22]

Gibt döner die extra so sind das die dann so voll sind, bzw. liegt eher am Brot und wie‘s gefüllt wird, dass du erst mit der Gabel bisschen was raus essen musst. Ist tatsächlich sogar näher am Original als ‚normal‘

[@MANIC3420]

Ben is so cool! Just jumps in no cares! Absolute legend

[@Simon-dg2ci]

Theres no thing such as "RB Leipzig ultras". The support of this plastic club goes against all ultra principles

[@elgrandecaudillo]

Fuck Ultras they add nothing

[@coolrottie2565]

Great video. When are you going back to Japan. Went to a Urawa home game last season, absolutely amazing atmosphere. Yes you can’t buy love but I’ve heard you can rent it 🤣

[@MatthiaGryffine]

I feel bad for the people of Leipzig because it's not their fault

[@sebastiandt928]

Real football fans dont support Red Bull in Leipzig tho. They still can go to Lok or Chemie Leipzig, two big traditional clubs. You dont have to feel bad for capitalistic rats that hate football culture so much that they support Red Bull

[@the_l_generator1779]

Lok Leipzig and Chemie Leipzig are right there. No need to feel sorry for the people of Leipzig. They have other options than Red Bull.

[@chiantiar]

Why feel bad? Leipzig had no top tier teams before Red Bull showed up. This is a big city that deserves a good team and now they got one.

[@the_l_generator1779]

@@chiantiar They got no team. They have a marketing product with no tradition and unfairly earned titles.

[@chiantiar]

@@the_l_generator1779 Who cares if they have tradition? The people of Leipzig have a good team now. Whats unfair is to think only certain teams get to be wealthy and others not. If the locals don't like it, they can always go to 4th tier Lokomotive games. So they got 2 teams.

[@JoeyTheGK]

Amazing videos, Mr. Platten, good job making amazing videos

[@Chovieisin08]

big up the awaydays

[@CoL_Drake]

Family atmosphere just one club in Germany that's not ultra hardcore... I like it I like rb they make the league more fun as they are a strong team

[@the_l_generator1779]

They make the league more unfair

[@DanNick.Daniel]

you cannot buy tradition. A club's history starts in a low league and develops by honest success, not by pay2win.

[@concurrenz]

fckn hypocrite.

[@dinohermann1887]

Say that to Heidenheim, Augsburg and Mainz, who fought with passion in order to promote to a higher football tier and not by cheating like Hoffenheim for example.

[@concurrenz]

@@dinohermann1887 lol you obviously have no idea of heidenheim and augsburg. they were financed from outside as well.

[@dinohermann1887]

@@concurrenz and Mainz?

[@DanNick.Daniel]

@@dinohermann1887 so proud of those clubs🤝

[@jo6re3]

Probably a no because of costs etc, but have you ever thought about coming to Australia to check the A-League at all? It’s in a really weird position where the fans at the game can be kinda hardcore about it, but it doesn’t translate to the league’s success. Could make for an interesting experience

[@markmeddlock558]

NeinZuRb!

[@wvp_sleepy6903]

Maybe, you could do a series where u try every Bratwurst in the Bundesliga. We in Bochum always get told we got the best. But I really wanna know your opinion ^^

[@kevin_hat_erdbeeren2750]

If you're already in Saxony come to Dresden 🖤💛

[@Duckguymusic]

"the hardest geeser" joke including the timing feels like you've nabbed that quip off neive hahahaha

[@animamaster]

22:58 I disagree with this. Most MLS teams are franchises, which means their base is only made of people who support that team because it's the big team of the area. True passion comes in the USL with all the local communities of the teams getting involved in making the club mean somethint

[@awaydaysfootball]

That’s the point though haha, I didn’t slate it either, I love MLS

[@chadchadderton]

except for the fact that USL teams are also franchises and their fan base is largely made up of people who support that team because it's the biggest in the area (as far as the USL championship is concerned)

[@jldch26]

All pro sports in the U.S. are pretty much franchises. USL run a franchise based league with requirements to be in certain leagues as well, which is why some are destined to be stuck in League One forever as they probably will never meet the requirements to move up to the Championship

[@charliejdk]

Yes. US soccer will likely run along US lines for a long time, rather than adopting foreign methods. The roots of franchise ownership here constitutes the American sporting tradition, for better or worse. Americans (including me) are not wedded to tradition in anything like the European way. New/Old worlds stuff.

[@frankf684]

@@charliejdkreally?there’s tradition in pro sports.go to Pittsburgh and tell them there’s no tradition in the Steelers,go to Boston and tell them there’s no tradition in the Red Sox

[@johncostello1446]

stumbled across you very funny enjoyed, I think the blue team in glasow is a much newer football club

[@kylecorman7859]

I agree with you that by the looks of it the environment was very much like MLS. That said, I would then suggest you return to Leipzig and see a game with Lokomotive. Compare the experiences

[@yaneyd93]

I like Lok and the old school ground looks amazing but the stands are way to far from the pitch and make a good atmosphere almost impossible. Chemie is the place to be for a good atmosphere in Leipzig.

[@kristiangodfrey6139]

I went to Leipzig and a game last December - loved the city, and the stadium was quite impressive. It was -6c when we went though, which I don't recommend.

[@wastedsoviet]

the dude at 16:30 saying everyone has to start at the bottom is so hilarious from an rb fan, cuz their club skipped the bottom leagues🤣